Have fun with your nonsense

Have fun with your nonsense because I am going to destroy all that crap you people spread. There hasn’t been a single evolutionist or atheist that has won or ever will win against me. Don’t believe me, see how many forum discussions on evolution that you can find on aol. Check out Adrienne Curry’s blog. I just started there but that’s just for fun. If darwin knew of me, he would have never come up with ridiculous theory that doesn’t have a single gram of sense in it. I will single handily take on any and all evolutionist and atheists in a nationally televised public forum, discussing evolution. And I will single handidly win. So enjoy it while it lasts, because it won’t last much longer.

-The Asetrian

287 Responses to “Have fun with your nonsense”
  1. 1 - Dusty - Oct 8th, 2008

    Ooh, I LOVE this one! Wasn’t Adreinne Curry one of the first MTV V-Jays?

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  2. 2 - Ed - Oct 8th, 2008

    But will you single-handedly use spellcheck?

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  3. 3 - Dentrassi42 - Oct 8th, 2008

    Wow, that clinches it for me then. Let’s throw away literally tons of physical evidence, millions of specimens & thousands upon thousands of mutually re-enforcing observations just because you ‘win’ internet blog arguments.

    “If darwin knew of me, he would have never come up with ridiculous theory that doesn’t have a single gram of sense in it.” – priceless!

    So tell me, how do you ‘win’ your arguments by the way? Do you instantly turn atheists & evoltionists into creationists by your amazing powers of rhetoric alone? Or, as I suspect, do you just trot out the same creationist clap-trap, call it ‘fact’ & sit back on your smug arse believing yourself to the the cleverest man/woman (I’m guessing man and poorly educated at that) to have ever lived?

    I bet Prof Dawkins and all of the other hundreds of educated & free-thinking people of the world are literally shitting themselves!

    Sod off please.

    RAmen

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  4. 4 - GummiHU - Oct 8th, 2008

    if you can spew nonsense like that we have already won

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  5. 5 - MunkeyB - Oct 8th, 2008

    I am concerned that your claim may be false. You portray yourself as this all knowing destroyer of faiths and blogs yet we have been around for a quite some time and you are just now finding out about us.

    We hope that one day you are touched by His Noodley Appendage!
    RAmen

    ~MB

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  6. 6 - Dan - Oct 8th, 2008

    Ohhhh no, please Asetrian, don’t hurt us with your powers. Please show me mercy….

    Hmmm, threats without any coherent arguement to back them up. You’re basically saying stop or you’ll punish us; people like you are why people like us fight religion.

    You are a fanatical, ignorant coward that proves evolution by being the missing link. Well done!

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  7. 7 - Dan - Oct 8th, 2008

    PS It’s handedly, not handidly and names/abbreviations (AOL, Darwin) use capital letters you child of an illiterate, illigetimate, sibling, trailer trash parents.

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  8. 8 - Javier - Oct 8th, 2008

    Mr. Burns: “Ohh, the Germans are coming after me! I’m so scared!”

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  9. 9 - Conor - Oct 8th, 2008

    Congratulations, Mr Ego! May I draw your attention to my own personal, three-point argument:

    1. You’re wrong.
    2. I’m right.
    3. Shut up.

    Your turn.

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  10. 10 - Ohio Pirate - Oct 8th, 2008

    I bet this guy has a handle bar mustache, dresses in all black with a black top hat, and ties people to train tracks. Boohahaah! Boohahah!

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  11. 11 - Captain Headwound - Oct 8th, 2008

    I have a feeling that he(?) is threatening us. Just so you know, Darwin is a scientist, and probably wouldn’t care about someone who can use fairy tales on a forum. And what makes you better than every other theologian that has tried to disprove us? The fact that you can post on blogs and forums? When and where will this one on several thousand persons public forum take place? I would enjoy verbally beating the shit out of you. Fascist.

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  12. 12 - Nangleator - Oct 8th, 2008

    Self-important much?
    .
    >I am going to destroy all that crap you people spread
    .
    All of it? If you’ve got a solution to the sewage problem, don’t hold back.
    .
    >If darwin knew of me, he would have never come up
    >with ridiculous theory that doesn’t have a single
    >gram of sense in it.
    .
    So, when logical thinkers figure out why the sun rises and sets, you accept it, instead of attributing it to some deity. And when logical thinkers figure out what causes lightning and thunder, you accept it, instead of thinking some deity is angry.
    .
    You accept that your deity has created the world with at least some automatic controls, so he doesn’t have to spend all his time in the control room making rain drops drop and bird wings flap and every last little motion that ever was.
    .
    (It’s big of you to think your god is powerful and wise enough build a world that can run itself, at least in part.)
    .
    But when people start noticing that living systems also have some automatic controls that let them adjust and change, to seek out balance with the forces applying to them, that’s when you get upset? And you think the first person to notice this is your personal enemy?
    .
    (Too bad your god isn’t powerful or smart enough to have created evolution.)
    .
    The Monster of Spaghetti which Flies is certainly powerful and wise enough, had he needed to. Of course he didn’t, but still…

    Ramen

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  13. 13 - Mitch - Oct 8th, 2008

    Wow. I think we’re supposed to be afraid, but I just can’t find it in me. I think it’s buried under all my astonishment. Look at the grammar and spelling! I’m so proud of our Christian hatemongers. They’re learning and growing up right before our eyes. Too bad this one is stuck at the rebellious teenager phase, but he’ll soon get over that. I wonder if he was home schooled? It would explain the arrogance and lack of dealing with reality.

    Dear Mr. The Asetrian,

    We respectfully decline your offer to a televised debate. We find that we are unable to debate with you due to the definition of what a debate is. A debate is defined as the action to argue or discuss a question, issue, or the like, as in a legislative or public assembly. Since the existance of the FSM and the issue of evolution are both factual and not in question, the idea of a debate seems pointless. We have come to this conclusion following your standard method of logic. We are right and you are wrong. End of debate. Thank you for your time and consideration.

    Sincerely,
    Supporters of the FSM, evolution and the foundation for a better future based on logic and science.

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  14. 14 - jonzie - Oct 8th, 2008

    Who is this nut case?

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  15. 15 - God? Pasta? what has more letters? - Oct 8th, 2008

    You probably only win national televised events on the televangelist channels. That is the only place people are dumb enough to listen to that crap you call truth

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  16. 16 - StJason - Oct 8th, 2008

    Well, it is truely a shame. I rather liked this group, but I guess that if we have the near-legendary Asetrian after us, we had better just close everything down, go home and sit in the dark crying.

    And I don’t know why you are asking us to look at the blog of some minor starlet (though I might have to check out her Playboy spread). But still, it might be part of your nefarious plot to destroy all of Flying Spaghetti Monsterism.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrianne_Curry

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  17. 17 - Fuzz - Oct 8th, 2008

    Oh my, aren’t you intelligent?
    Wow, i must admit that the comment you just wrote was very nescessary indeed. I am sure many people will enjoy it! :D

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  18. 18 - Aesi - Oct 8th, 2008

    Okay. So, how about outside Downing Street, say… oh, 10PM? Two men enter, one leaves, standard fight to the death rules.
    Let’s test your theory.

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  19. 19 - The Evolved Ape - Oct 8th, 2008

    I’d love to see that debate. What the hell is an ‘evolutionist’? Before anybody says people who believe in evolution can I point out that there is evidence for evolution so no belief is necessary.

    This is either fake or retarded.

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  20. 20 - Arg Sayer - Oct 8th, 2008

    oooooooooooo. Scary.

    Take your time. It’s been, what, a hundred years since natural selection was theorized? How long as FSM become widely known? You go ahead and end it. No rush. Thanks for the fair warning.

    Arg.

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  21. 21 - Ron - Oct 8th, 2008

    Hm. Someone needs to significantly up their dosage.

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  22. 22 - belgian girl - Oct 8th, 2008

    I hope I’m not the only one who’s now rolling on the floor laughing?
    This dude is funny :-) I like him, so peacefull and loving…

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  23. 23 - Ron - Oct 8th, 2008

    OK, out of curiosity, I just swung by Adrienne Curry’s blog. She questions religion there. It’s still up. No comments or replied by a megalomaniac named Aseterian that I saw.

    Reality: 1 Loonie: 0

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  24. 24 - Ubi Dubium - Oct 8th, 2008

    Woo Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
    (Can’t..breathe….laughing too hard!)
    Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha…

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  25. 25 - Sarah - Oct 8th, 2008

    Um, yeah, let me know how that works out. RAmen.

    -Sarah

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  26. 26 - Scotty B - Oct 8th, 2008

    First off, I’m going to go out on a limb to say that you will not “…single handily [sic] take on any and all evolutionist and atheists in a nationally televised public forum, discussing evolution.” because nobody is going to nationally televise such a ridiculous event.

    Secondly, do you even understand how science works? Because that might help you to better understand the concept of evolution and the overwhelming evidence we have that makes it a scientific theory.

    Lastly, um, you may be barking up the wrong tree here because it is obvious to anyone here that the world was created by the FSM…

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  27. 27 - scimmia - Oct 8th, 2008

    The Asetrian is really on a mission, or at least he’s deluded enough to think so! (a mission from the Devil? a mission from God? who knows… but he isn’t half as much fun as the Blues Brothers!)
    I was starting to think he could spell until he betrayed his true ignorance by writing “handidly”! Looks like the spell check didn’t get that one… bad luck!
    Anyway, maybe someone should tell him that being an evolutionist or an atheist is not some sort of competition. It’s just a case of being intelligent and using one’s intellect to see through centuries of deluded superstitions. Also debate (if it’s intelligent, I don’t mean the Jerry Springer show!) is not all about “winning”. It’s about putting your ideas across clearly and understanding other people’s ideas. I’m afraid Asetrian fails miserably on both those counts! (it isn’t even clear if he’s a Christian or not… or maybe Asetrianism is a weird new sect which believes in attacking everything it is unable to understand?)
    I have 2 constructive suggestions for Asetrian:
    1) If he wants a competition maybe he should take up sport or competitive tiddly-winks (that should be about right for his mental level)
    2) If he wants slanging matches and abuse instead of intelligent debate then maybe he should put his name down for the Jerry Springer show. (I’m sure they’ll love him!)
    In any case he shouldn’t waste his time trying to write intelligent criticism until he is intelligent enough to understand what he’s criticising! (if he understood them he probably wouldn’t need to criticise them!)

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  28. 28 - galderon - Oct 8th, 2008

    An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition!
    No it isn’t.
    Yes it is!
    It’s not just contradiction. Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
    Yes, but that’s not just saying ‘No it isn’t.’
    Yes it is!
    No it isn’t!

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  29. 29 - Emily the Pirate Wench - Oct 8th, 2008

    I have a funny feeling George Bush wrote this post. This guy sounds like a ‘decider’. Also uses grams for measurement, much like our cocaine loving president!!
    If you intend to “single handily” disprove anything you might want to learn what a paragraph and a sentence are, and how they work together to form a complete thought.

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  30. 30 - Emily the Pirate Wench - Oct 8th, 2008

    What the Fack is “Asetrian?”

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  31. 31 - Petey-Pie - Oct 8th, 2008

    “I will single handily take on any and all evolutionist and atheists in a nationally televised public forum, discussing evolution. And I will single handidly win.”

    Of course you will dearie… everybody has a dream I guess ^^ *pats on head*. Some advice: I believe the word is ’single-handedly’, looked like you were having trouble deciding there. It’s a pain I know but trivial spelling is vital if you want people to think you are smarter than Darwin AND every single evolutionist (although in all honesty, I doubt many do).

    Oh, and I (among others I’m sure) am a lazy bastard. you could’ve posted some links to make these amazing feats of debating ability more accessible. AOL and some blog is a bit vague. I checked up on the blog, on the ‘Is there a god?’ entry (for lack of a more obvious entry. heh.)It’s just a bit confusing, it refers a bit to the personal beliefs of a few, but doesnt conclude… well, anything… who are you on it? elaborate please. It would just be disappointing if you turned out to be a fake :(

    Ah well, Pesto be upon you.

    RAmen.

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  32. 32 - Fusillier - Oct 8th, 2008

    If Darwin knew of you he would no doubt have concluded that some organisms hadn’t evolved at all.
    Oh, and it’s ‘Single handedly’ not ’single handidly’ or ‘handily’.
    After ‘Dont believe me’ you should have put a question mark, as it stands you are instructing us not to believe you.
    ‘darwin’ should have a capital D.
    You missed an ‘a’ between ‘with’ and ‘ridiculous’.
    As for you destroying all this…I don’t believe you.
    ‘I will single handily (sic) take on…’ That would indicate that you have it all set up, so where? when? I’ll tune in! Of course maybe you don’t have it set up, in which case you should have said that you are WILLING to take on…etc etc
    I bet we never hear from, or of you again.

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  33. 33 - benji - Oct 8th, 2008

    POUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Awesome! A person so intelligent that he can destroy every evolutionist arguments, but who just can see the very simple purpose of the existence of this site. Wow, I’d say it’s the most disturbed overconfident prick to ever post on this forum.

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  34. 34 - Fogey - Oct 8th, 2008

    Okay, so what’s your point?

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  35. 35 - Sean Boyd - Oct 8th, 2008

    Yo Asetrian,

    Can’t find you anywhere except here using good old Google. Are you arguing with yourself on some private blog no one else knows about? If you’ve got proof that a deity exists, please post it here. I’m sure that Bobby Henderson, the creator of this site, would be happy to post such proof. I challenge you right now…bring on your proof, and let the good people of this forum judge for themselves. As far as this post, I’ve a few comments:

    1. It’s Adrianne Curry, not Adrienne Curry. Honestly, if your claim to fame is that you argued with a supermodel and won (not that I can find you on her blog, but I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt) then you’re not setting your standards very high.
    2. I didn’t know sense was measured in grams. What’s the molar mass of sense, so I have an idea how much a gram really is. What I’m getting at is an idea of how dense your sense is. I suspect it’s pretty dense.
    3. The word is handedly, not handily, handidly, or any other misspelling of which you might conceive.
    4. I do believe no atheist or evolutionist has won an argument against you. Neither do I believe you’ve ever bested them in verbal jousting.
    5. English is not an article-free language. One does not come up with ridiculous theory. Perhaps A ridiculous theory.

    Have a good life.

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  36. 36 - DavidH - Oct 8th, 2008

    Have you stopped taking the yellow tablets? You know they’ll lock you up again.

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  37. 37 - Joe Marinara - Oct 8th, 2008

    Wow. The delusions-of-grandeur approach. I think that may be a new one here.

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  38. 38 - Lindy - Oct 8th, 2008

    Why are these guys always the “hit and run” types? Come on–post, chat, convince me! Let’s dismantle the last 100 years of scientific consensus together!

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  39. 39 - Lindy - Oct 8th, 2008

    By the way, “Asetrian” returned exactly two hits on Google. This post was one of them, and the other is confusing–it’s an OCR goof from a scan of The Daily Alta Californian newspaper, page 2 that lists “Asevrian” as a language taught at the University of Berlin.

    As far as I can see, your blogging CV started and ended on this web site.

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  40. 40 - Ishmael - Oct 8th, 2008

    Obviously a troll. If he/she is not, this is not worth commenting on. It is interesting this person claims openly to be such a “Master Debater”.

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  41. 41 - ET, the Extra Terrestrial - Oct 8th, 2008

    I have to learn not to read hate mail posts while I’m taking a sip of soda. I just blew a whole mouthful out through my nose and all over my keyboard. Gross.
    RAmen
    ET

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  42. 42 - god - Oct 8th, 2008

    i assure you it is legitimate

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  43. 43 - daqq - Oct 8th, 2008

    NOT HIM!!! Whoever he is…

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  44. 44 - belgian girl - Oct 8th, 2008

    I hope he will answer us back, this one is way to amusing to just post that hatemail and run off like a coward.

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  45. 45 - brian - Oct 8th, 2008

    Wow. You are going to take on thousands of years of Scientific Theory on evolution? Dating back to Aristotle?

    So, in essence you are going to replicate EVERY SINGLE scientific experiment conducted by THOUSANDS of scientists working independently of one another. And in doing so, you are going to have your results published in peer reviewed journals? And these results will prove all of these experiments wrong?

    Can’t wait to read it.

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  46. 46 - cjames - Oct 8th, 2008

    Oh no, please don’t debate with us!
    However would we win?!

    I mean, we /only/ have scientific evidence.
    What are you going to use? A bible?

    RAmen.

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  47. 47 - Aine - Oct 8th, 2008

    What exactly are you you going to do to the atheists and evolutionaries? Make their eyes bleed at some of the truly horrifying punctuation (or lack thereof) present in this post?

    That however, is beneath and beside the point. From what I can see, my fellow Pastafarians are less than impressed with your er…”blogging” and that is saying something. We are fairly impressionable, tolerant and forgiving people WHEN HANDED THE RIGHT MATERIAL. You, my friend, have clearly failed to deliver.

    As to your challenge?…Bring it on, baby. As a community of fairly literate skeptics we will take you out…if we can be bothered^^

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  48. 48 - neal - Oct 8th, 2008

    C’mon assmasterterran, we’ll take you on!

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  49. 49 - Sir Jebbington - Oct 8th, 2008

    He wants to take on all evolutionists single handedly because his other hand is busy.

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  50. 50 - Drunken Dogg - Oct 8th, 2008

    You are going to outsmart all pastafarian and ruin our religion? Don’t get too carried away now, if you can’t spell ’single handedly’ right how do you expect to take down us?

    -Drunken Dogg

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  51. 51 - Ex-Captain Etay - Oct 8th, 2008

    My gosh. You sound like Hitler!
    Listen to yourself. It’s ridiculous.

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  52. 52 - A.Gweeok - Oct 8th, 2008

    To me this e-mail lost validity when Asterian issued the challenge “see how many forum discussions on evolution that you can find on aol”. AOL? really? werd? Can I has war on interwebz ams be showing yous guys?

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  53. 53 - Fliegenden Nudeln - Oct 8th, 2008

    I’ll get right to the point…bullshit.

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  54. 54 - NoBeard - Oct 8th, 2008

    “Have fun with your nonsense” . . .

    Don’t mind if I do. And you with yours.

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  55. 55 - Bx 32 - Oct 8th, 2008

    You may actually be suffering from intense paranoid schizophrenia, because you are experiencing some amazing delusions.
    Those who think evolution holds no sense wouldn’t know sense if it they witnessed it raping and killing, under surveillance, and in broad daylight.
    RAmen Mateys!

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  56. 56 - The Josh - Oct 8th, 2008

    Umm…ok. You’re on.

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  57. 57 - noodlenik - Oct 8th, 2008

    He is obviously the last survivor of an evolutionary dead end.

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  58. 58 - Steve - Oct 8th, 2008

    To The Asetrian,
    I am the producer of a nationally televised news program. If you would be willing to appear on our program I hereby invite you. Please join us. We have only one prerequisite, you need to write approximately 500 words, in good English, covering the topics upon which you would be prepared to debate. This requirement is so that we may invite other guests of an equal calibre to debate with you. Do not hesitate to reply, we wait with baited breath.

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  59. 59 - mv - Oct 8th, 2008

    And they call us nonsensical?

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  60. 60 - zinc alloy - Oct 8th, 2008

    Another tosser.

    This is getting boring so to get straight to the point, if I met you, rather than a long winded debate, I’d probably just smack you straight in the mouth and therefore prove ‘the survival of the fittest’ is indeed correct.

    May His Noodly Appendage reach you before the men in white coats.

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  61. 61 - Cape Buffalo - Oct 8th, 2008

    Guys with egos like this are almost always caught by thier mommies while jerking off in the corner of their room with their high school year book. The lucky ones are still teenagers when this happens, but I have a feeling this guy is about fourty, bald, and living in his parents basement.

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  62. 62 - anonymous - Oct 8th, 2008

    You were so busy telling us how easily you were going to win that you forgot to…win.

    failure to think initiated: non-thunked about it

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  63. 63 - Jacq - Oct 8th, 2008

    “Wow. The delusions-of-grandeur approach. I think that may be a new one here.”

    Agreed. Definitely a refreshing change from the usual, unimaginative hate and violence.

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  64. 64 - Meisha - Oct 8th, 2008

    I’m so sorry about your penis. It must be very small and you are compensating for it with a hellishly bloated ego. There are medications for that, even some surgical procedures also. Perhaps you should consider them so you can live a life that is real and meaningful.

    Have a nice day!

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  65. 65 - Vermicelli - Oct 8th, 2008

    When did scientific debate merge with professional wrestling?

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  66. 66 - scimmia - Oct 8th, 2008

    @Petey-Pie Post#31
    I loved your condescending approach to this latest lunatic… most amusing…
    You say “I (among others I’m sure) am a lazy bastard.” But that can’t be true… you (among others I noticed, who posted here after you, like Sean Boyd) actually checked up on the blog, to find out if this guy is for real!!!!!!!
    Haven’t you got anything better to do than investigate the deliriums of these madmen with delusions of grandeur?
    I am very impressed by your scientific attitude towards ascertaining the truth of Asetrian’s claims (investigate, verify and confirm) but if you wanted proof of his psychosis I think you were wasting your time… It should have been clear just from reading his blatherings that the guy’s grip on reality is virtually non-existent!
    But perhaps you wanted to see if there were any glittering gems of lunacy comparable to what he posted on this site?? In that case if your investigations bear any fruit do please post them here for us!
    Good luck Sherlock!
    The guy has a great future in comedy, or as a special permanent guest on the Jerry Springer show! It would indeed be disappointing if he turned out to be a fake!
    Ah well, Pesto be upon you too brother!

    P.S. Your “lazy” research has inspired me and I visited The Official Blog of Adrianne Curry. It starts off with some nice comments like:
    “For one religion to claim it is THE religion is almost laughable. All of our religions are nothing but a collection of stories and ancient rituals of the past.“
    But then she shoots herself out of the sky by saying:
    “Is there a God? I personally believe there is. I believe in good and evil, and I am on the good side. ; ) “
    Anyway she is incredibly fuckable so I forgive all her inconsistencies!

    Perhaps I have identified Asetrian’s alter-ego on the site in the person of “truthdigger” who says:
    your god did a good job with creation if he couldn’t even get his most precious creations to behave themselves and had to keep torturing them with death – until of course, Jesus meak and mild came along and created hell – then we could get punished for all eternity.
    Then he says:
    Okay Adrianne: You doubt the bible but you believe in god and Jesus – where did you get the information from. Adrianne have you ever been diagnosed? – because what I have seen of you, especially you in Russia in the curch and at the zoo, you are in serious need of some medication. I’m totally not joking – you are really in need of professional help – Chris must have enough money to put you in a good place for a month – if not, he could always borrow it from Florence. I’m sure she would love to see you locked up like most of America

    The erratic spelling fits the profile, as does the delirious tone of a madman attacking for the sake of attacking and abusing for the sake of abusing, without seeming to have any particular point of view or opinion of his own….. I think the poor guy just needs to have some good sex and get his rocks off (but now he’s really blown his chances with Adrianne Curry!)

    BTW Adrianne’s blog has some great stuff like this:
    ofcourse there is a god , I belive in god cuz When we look around the universe, we see an unbelievably order.
    Everything is in a strict but in a cute order. Everyone does his job perfectly. Stars are shining and revolving without stopping… The sun sets and rises… The earth goes around without crushing into any other planets. The cows are giving milk nonstop. The beings are in an order.
    if u really want the answer the real answer 4 ur question u should read the qura’an and belive me you’ll find so many answers for alot of questions
    what’s the meaning of life ? and who created this incridble world and why ? who created us and why ? how many gods are there ?
    the answers in al-qura’an

    Beautiful evidence that “unintelligent design”, ugly grammar (such as endless strings of subordinate and relative clauses), terrible spelling, non-sequiturs and clumsy, confused or ambiguous expression of over-complicated and undigested ideas are all rather typical of all religious “believers”… not just Christians! (“The cows are giving milk non-stop”…… that is just great!)
    Looks like I had nothing better to do either!

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  67. 67 - grim trigger - Oct 8th, 2008

    OH MAI GAWD GAIZ HE WINS ARGUMENTS ON AOL OH NO WHAT WILL WE DO

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  68. 68 - scimmia - Oct 8th, 2008

    Wow!
    I’ve just found another gem on Adrianne’s blog:

    as far as god is concerned , i feel like humans are not a product of evolution or native to this planet originally . i believe we are the product of some ancient hybridization between Neanderthals and an extraterrestrial life form .
    there is still a huge missing link in the evolution theory. we have made technological leaps and bounds . especially in the last 100 years . it does not jive with creationalist and evolutionist views . this is only my conclusion after having studied on the subject for many years.

    After having studied WHAT subject for many years?? Applied psychopathology??
    I feel I must thank Asetrian for alerting me to the existence of this wonderful Adrianne Curry’s blog….. it’s almost as funny as the FSM site… and it’s run by a beautiful woman who isn’t ashamed to show her naughty sexy bits to all and sundry! (couldn’t we adopt her as the daughter of the FSM?)

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  69. 69 - KatieBug - Oct 8th, 2008

    Asetrian,

    By “win” I’m sure you mean spout your nonsense repeatedly, ignoring all reason and logic until you finally declare your points the only ones that make sense and leave, feeling contended in your “win”, when in reality you were intellectually pwned in every way and you were just too dense and blinded by your religious indoctrination and brainwashing to see through your ridiculous theories and fail logic.

    That’s how these things usually go.

    -Katie

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  70. 70 - sigh - Oct 8th, 2008

    1) Evolution isn’t a theory any more, it’s been proven.
    2) I went too that blog, the “Asetrain” hasn’t made any comments.
    3) Good luck with that debate.
    4) I reccomend you see a therapist about those delusions.
    5) RAmen

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  71. 71 - Cheeetar - Oct 8th, 2008

    I googled your name, but all I found was this website. You’re a bit big-headed if you’re claim to fame is sending hate-mail saying that you’re better than everyone.

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  72. 72 - Pho eater - Oct 8th, 2008

    FSM-Damn, Asetria! WTFSM??? Not everyone is out to get you (or your mythological values) schizo. Take your thorazine and chill brother or they’ll have to put the straight-jacket back on you.

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  73. 73 - Nullsession - Oct 8th, 2008

    Am I really the first person to suggest that this isn’t the ONLY thing this individual masters “single handedly”??

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  74. 74 - Plague Chicken - Oct 8th, 2008

    @ Sean Boyd #35

    …the ‘density of sense’ comment had me breathless for almost 5 minutes. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
    Credit for the assist goes to our poster, who made such hilarity possible…

    jocularity…jocularity

    PC
    *giggle*

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  75. 75 - jeremykeys - Oct 8th, 2008

    I’m impressed. I haven’t seen that much anger in quite a while. Even though he or she is somewhat provoking I’m not worried. Once the meds kick in all will be fine again. No need to go over what has already been said about the lack of grammar. I’m just curious as to just when and where this great challenge will take place. Keep me posted, the Asetrian. you do know of course that eventually you will go the way of the dinosaur. The net is too big and you are too small. All your religious furver (sic) is just so much wasted energy that could be better spent learning, oh, just about anything really. How to deal with people and life might be a good start. The origin of your religion could also be good for you. Too bad you also won’t be back. More’s the pity.

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  76. 76 - Liony Goodness - Oct 8th, 2008

    Take it easy Mitch. My kids were homeschooled in order keep them from being inundated with Christian BS in the public school system. I was also turned off to public school when a teacher told me that her only problem with my child and his schoolwork was that he “thinks for himself too much.”

    Homeschooling allowed them to experience learning instead of sitting in a classroom, staring at a chalkboard, wishing they were doing something else. They are intelligent, educated, out-spoken free-thinkers. Homeschooling, it’s not just for religious nutjobs anymore.

    Yarrrrr

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  77. 77 - Andrea - Oct 8th, 2008

    I think the spaghetti monster is fucking awesome, and i truly believe i was created from this thing.

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  78. 78 - Wench Sarah - Oct 8th, 2008

    HAHAHAAAAA! This was great! Oh, blessed and saucy be your funny finger pointings. Way to come to our peaceful front door and threaten us for practicing our faith in peace.

    Peace ond love…
    Wench Sarah

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  79. 79 - Red Dutchpasta Wench - Oct 9th, 2008

    *snif* this was funny!!! *wipes tears from eyes* Precious! I think Ron’s right though: remeber to take you pills Asetrian. (doesn’t that sound very much likes that dog-breed: alsatian?)
    *
    Dusty: that was Adam Curry, another megalomaniac, not as funny as this guy though!.

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  80. 80 - Red Dutchpasta Wench - Oct 9th, 2008

    It might just be Adrienne herself :) Trying for some more visits to her site!

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  81. 81 - Cardinal Linguine - Oct 9th, 2008

    Wow! For once we have hate mail that is actually funny!

    ramen

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  82. 82 - Vinny - Oct 9th, 2008

    Anyone submitted this to FSTDT yet? Because it’s a cracker.

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  83. 83 - Tree - Oct 9th, 2008

    Well, damn.

    Name your time, place, and willing-and-able news/television agency willing to partake. I’ll gladly lay you to waste, although it would be far more amusing to stop on by your website and randomly leave a message boasting of my superior intellect and debate skill. What little do you know, your every word, thought, feeling, and false inspiration is but He who has thought it before, and for you…The Flying Spaghetti Monster.

    RAmen (I’m catching on)

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  84. 84 - Lyvvie - Oct 9th, 2008

    I can see from Adrienne’s very popular and still active blog that you’ve not completely finished her, Arsestrain. She’s not weeping or throwing herself upon God’s feet for forgiveness. Damn she’s cool – thanks for the introduction. I didn’t find any of your badass talkin’. Must be too busy with the single hand.

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  85. 85 - Werrf - Oct 9th, 2008

    Well, at least he’s partaking of that good ol’ humble Christian spirit, just like his Lord…

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  86. 86 - Chiaroscuro - Oct 9th, 2008

    Hold, my fellow pirates, this smells like a dirty trick to make us visit the crappy blog of this model\reality star. Asetrian is just bogus.

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  87. 87 - The One - Oct 9th, 2008

    Dear The Asetrian, I, on behalf of His Noodlyness, am here to inform you that neither I or His Noodlyness are amused with your claims. While both I and His Noodlyness fear that your head may never be able to fully withdraw from your anal hole, we still want to help you see, see the truth and the glorious Noodly Appendages’ of the great FSM. It is never too late, don’t forget that.

    ramen

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  88. 88 - Nangleator - Oct 9th, 2008

    scimmia @68, I don’t know if she could be the FSM’s daughter, but I’d certainly nominate her as one of the top-of-the-line models for the stripper factory production line.

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  89. 89 - Gnocci Man - Oct 9th, 2008

    @The Asetrian

    I checked out the blog… however, if you indeed posted there, I was incapable of determining which nom-de-geurre you assumed, or which thread you decided to shit on. Regardless, your belief that you are capable of intelligently argueing any point whatsoever is a severe delusion. . I’m not sure whether you are some sort of dismissive egotist, or if you are simply unintelligent.
    Darwinism doesn’t have a grain of sense in it? Are you really serious when you write that? Try actually studying evolution… if you still consider it nonsense, even after you have been given fact after fact, then there is really no hope.
    In truth, surveying you supposed conquests is largely unesessary in drawing those conclusions. Your post here is all that is needed. However, if you are set on having a debate with someone holding the atheist and/or darwinian viewpoints, just put in a request here, with a link to where you wish the debate to take place.

    I can guarantee that there’ll be some interest.

    RAmen

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  90. 90 - Nahmala - Oct 9th, 2008

    LMAO. You think just like all these close-minded idiots who send hate mail. Y’know, I’m gonna check out your blog so I can laugh even harder.

    BBHNA!

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  91. 91 - Got a little Captain in Me - Oct 9th, 2008

    try arguing in a setting other than a catholic middle school debate. you will lose.

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  92. 92 - Redbeard - Oct 9th, 2008

    Ouch. I’m away from this site for two days and look what I missed! I almost thought this was a spoof, it’s so perfect, but then he kept misspelling “handedly”. I think I’m beginning to see how he “wins” arguments against evildoers like atheists and evolutionists. It’s either as KatieBug says in #69, essentially shouting the loudest, or it’s like a drive-by shooting where he makes a ridiculous post and then runs away before he can hear everyone laughing. I guess we’ll see if Dave gets a response!
    By the way, LionyGoodness, I was also under the impression that all Homeschooling was done by and for religious nutjobs, so thanks for correcting me on that. I won’t jump to conclusions anymore. My kids are doing great in public school, having been raised nonsense-free, but every once in a while they come home with a “what the hell?” story about one of their classmates. Fortunately, most of the over-the-top christians they run up against are in the same intellectual league as Mr. Arse-trian, so it’s never been a problem.

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  93. 93 - Darwin’sMonkey - Oct 9th, 2008

    One would think that with all of the threats and assumptions of power that this would come with some form of a publicly posted e-mail or address or any location that it could be responded to other than our forum. Unless you can travel to the imaginary world where your god exists and bring him back with you, you can’t prove anything or win anything, especially with this group of pirates!
    RAmen

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  94. 94 - Darwin’sMonkey - Oct 9th, 2008

    Oh and I just created an aol chat and it seems to be going well.

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  95. 95 - neal - Oct 9th, 2008

    Let’s make it a cage match, punk. YOu and me. Two men enter, one man leaves. Neal and the assmaster in THUNDERDOME!

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  96. 96 - Kit - Oct 9th, 2008

    “Have fun with your nonsense” Don’t worry – we will.

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  97. 97 - Kamran - Oct 9th, 2008

    There’s no way this is serious. AOL? Come on no one uses that as a badge of honor.

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  98. 98 - Drunken Dogg - Oct 9th, 2008

    61 – October 8th, 2008 at – Cape Buffalo

    My dad is 38-bald, and lives in his parents basement…….He’s a total loser too.

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  99. 99 - nicole - Oct 9th, 2008

    God is the one that gave you the imagination to think that way, so i find it SAD but who am i to judge!! Im NOT GOD!!

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  100. 100 - Cpt.Marcel - Oct 9th, 2008

    This mail smells funny, a bit like bat droppings.

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  101. 101 - Spector567 - Oct 9th, 2008

    This great, hilarious, this person really needed his ego boost to cite a super models blog conversation as the height of intelligent conversation. I’m sure he found a lot of varied intelligent conversation there…. After all a lot of people go to super model sites to read the articles.

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  102. 102 - Wench Nikkiee - Oct 9th, 2008

    Asetrian

    Congratulations! You have won the CoFSM “Wanker of the Week” award. There is a lot of tough competition to receive this honor, but you singlehandedly aced the field!

    Please post again here to accept your award.

    By the way, how is your grasp of molecular bio and genetics? What’s that?
    Ahhh…I see. With all the singlehanded typing and your other hand being busy…your grasp is already full. Never mind, you may grow out of it…or not!

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  103. 103 - Ornj - Oct 9th, 2008

    I’d rather believe in science than have my answer that has plagued humanity for thousands of years: “Magic man dun it”

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  104. 104 - lilwench - Oct 9th, 2008

    Arrgh, I be scared. The Asetrian has access to AOL. That’s like training wheels for the Internet, dude. Crowing about your trolling there just reinforces what an idiot you are.

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  105. 105 - Bobert - Oct 9th, 2008

    oooo, I like a challenge. Do you know someone who has one? Because your’s isn’t that hard.

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  106. 106 - Marcus Aurelius - Oct 9th, 2008

    This Asetrian obviously views the FSM less as a parody deity and more as a Mortal Kombat-style deathmatch. I would be glad to take you on in a nationally televised event, as any follower of logic and this site would. I really want to to this, as I haven’t had a chance to slam a creationist lately, though the vice-presidential debates gave me a few chuckles. If you want to go the same way as Palin, disgraced by someone with a superior intellect (Biden), bring it on. I love an idiot to rip apart.

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  107. 107 - The Mighty Meatball - Oct 9th, 2008

    Please destroy it all.
    Honestly if you could destroy it all wouldn’t you of by now?

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  108. 108 - Laughter - Oct 9th, 2008

    I’m sorry, did you mean to say “single-handedly”?…..twice…haha, clearly all Christians are highly educated.

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  109. 109 - Christopher Seemann - Oct 9th, 2008

    dude i will actually pwn you into oblivion I’m with tree here, you name a date and I’ll burn you down. what kind of simplton thinks he best a theory that has been tested time and time again. If you are serious, and i hope you are, then i have to respect the fact that you didn’t boast religion in your post. However, you cut out science as a backer. What’s your argument going to be (mocking) “no no no you’re wrong and i’m right”. Bring it

    RAmen

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  110. 110 - Devout Heathen - Oct 10th, 2008

    Avaunt, foul heretic! Assail us, would you? Bring me my Bow of burning gold. Bring me my Arrows of desire. Bring me my Spear. O clouds unfold. Bring me my Chariot of fire! I will not cease from Mental Fight, nor shall my sword sleep in my hand. Who is this Adrianne Curry anyway? (Google… images… Ooo!)

    Good luck guys!

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  111. 111 - Morhek - Oct 10th, 2008

    Nothing I could say would be as hilarious as the tripe you just tried to feed us. I much prefer noodles.

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  112. 112 - billy wright - Oct 10th, 2008

    You claim to be a very educated, powerful and well-known figure in the field of evolution and creationism debating. So much so, you even claim that Darwin would be frightened of you if he know you.
    -Darwin (as you said) has never heard of ‘The Asetrian’, nor have any of us Pastafarians, and nor (most likely) has anyone who watches televsion.
    -Most Pastafarians know who Darwin is, most people who watch television know who Darwin is, Charles Darwin knew who Darwin was.
    -Darwin wrote and published several books and papers on evolution. These books and papers were backed up by lots of scientific evidence and experiments. Millions of people around the world firmly belive that what Darwin wrote was the truth (because it is).
    -The Asetrian posted one poorly written, grammatically incorrect piece of hate mail. This post was backed up by no evidence. No one belives anything The Asetrian wrote to be the truth (because none of it is).

    Darwin would not be scared of you. He would still have discovered evolution. Darwin’s smart and you’re a complete psychopath.

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  113. 113 - Conor - Oct 10th, 2008

    Adrianne Curry’s blog, eh?

    You know, lust is a mortal sin. You’re going to hell.

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  114. 114 - Lolwut? - Oct 10th, 2008

    Smells like a troll.

    A bad one, at that.

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  115. 115 - Rusty Schackleford - Oct 10th, 2008

    Wow this guys stupid. Everyone knows the flying spaggetti monster exist.

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  116. 116 - Paolo - Oct 10th, 2008

    Hey Smarty Pants!!

    If you don’t like the results of the scientific method, then I suggest the following:

    1. Quit driving, flying, and taking the train. Your LORD IN HEAVEN certainly wouldn’t want you using fossil fuels and technology discovered using trial and error, evidence, experimentation, and all that crazy stuff!!

    2. Next time you get sick and your doctor prescribes you some real medicine, you must pass on it, given that it is all sciency and stuff.

    3. When the hordes are at the gate of the US, pick up your pitchfork, because our military uses other sciency stuff, like radar, lasers, wireless communications, and all those other things from Satan’s lair.

    4. That food you are eating…full of pesticides and fertilizers. Can’t eat that either. That shit ain’t in the Bible!! Also, it was brought to your supermarket by tricks of the devil (see number 1 above).

    5. By the way, how is all that is HOLY did you write this email to us Pastafarians? After all, I am sure a GOD FEARIN man like yourself would not blaspheme the LORD’D by using those light bulbs and fancy ‘puters invented by scientists.

    May His Noodly Appendage open your heart, mind, and eyes.

    Strippers and beer for everyone! ARggggg….

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  117. 117 - Leigh - Oct 10th, 2008

    You like men ! ! !

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  118. 118 - Sean Boyd - Oct 10th, 2008

    @ Plague Chicken # 74,

    Our noble nemesis The Asetrian, of course, deserves all the credit, as I’m sure he’d tell you. After all, not many can serve up tee balls like he did.

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  119. 119 - Sara - Oct 10th, 2008

    October 8th, 2008 at – sigh Says:
    “1) Evolution isn’t a theory any more, it’s been proven.”

    According to the United States National Academy of Sciences,
    Some scientific explanations are so well established that no new evidence is likely to alter them. The explanation becomes a scientific theory. In everyday language a theory means a hunch or speculation. Not so in science. In science, the word theory refers to a comprehensive explanation of an important feature of nature that is supported by many facts gathered over time. Theories also allow scientists to make predictions about as yet unobserved phenomena.

    (taken from wikipedia)

    Because of the nature of scientific theories, they cannot be “proven”. To “prove” something we’d have to replicate it, and while we can replicate bacterial evolution, I doubt that Believers like our most wise and astute President W and Asetrian are likely to take such as proof.

    I like many of you would love it if this fellow would continue to post, but it seems the verbal ability of this lil community has undone him. Ahh well, so much for the fun.

    Tonight I make spaghetti with meatballs!

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  120. 120 - Reggie Dixon - Oct 10th, 2008

    To The Arsetrain.

    You sad man

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  121. 121 - KatieBug - Oct 10th, 2008

    RAmen, billy wright.
    RAmen.

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  122. 122 - Pope Pixel I - Oct 10th, 2008

    “I will single handily take on any and all evolutionist and atheists in a nationally televised public forum, discussing evolution.”

    OOH OOOOOH ME FIRST ME FIRST!!!! By the way, you should learn the English language before you go on a debate and make a fool of yourself. You don’t want to be the next Sarah Palin after all :D
    RAmen
    Your’s Truly,
    Pope Pixel I, Wench-Addict

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  123. 123 - Jochem Atteveld - Oct 10th, 2008

    Obviously, evolution has never been explained to you, as you’re calling it rediculous.
    Also, I accept your challange.

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  124. 124 - Random Pastafarian - Oct 10th, 2008

    Look on the bright side; at least this one understands the concept of satire. Coupled with the comparatively error-free spelling and grammar, I think we have evidence that creationist dumb-asses are evolving.

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  125. 125 - jeremykeys - Oct 10th, 2008

    This weirdo just proved that AOL stands for: Anus On Line.

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  126. 126 - Pho eater - Oct 10th, 2008

    Damn, just went to her site. Ahhh yeeeaaaaahhh! I’ll never turn down curried meat ever again. Forget the blog, thanks for the whack-off material duder Asetrian.

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  127. 127 - Nick - Oct 11th, 2008

    I -hope- this is a fake.

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  128. 128 - Kivela - Oct 11th, 2008

    obviously some one has never told that person all the holes in the whole Christianity religion

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  129. 129 - lari - Oct 11th, 2008

    I can’t stop laughing, what a cute way to cheer us up, mr Asetrian
    Have fun with your nonsense you too, thank you vary much :P

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  130. 130 - neal - Oct 11th, 2008

    The Vince McMahon of fundamentalists

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  131. 131 - P.E.T. - Oct 11th, 2008

    The Asetrian (if that IS your real name…),
    .
    Though I’m guessing you’re a fake given the nature of the Adrianne Curry blog, I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt and accept your challenge. Here’s some statements you can start with:
    .
    1. Evolution can be attributed as the cause of all life and behavior on Earth.
    2. Evolution can be (and is) seen on both a macro and micro level.
    3. Fossil evidence provides ample evidence for both the evolution and speciation of our own species and that of most early life.
    4. The basic tenants of Natural Selection can still be broadly applied, just as Darwin stated in Origin of Species and Descent of Man.
    5. Genetic evidence supports the principles of evolution.
    6. Creationism is not a science, nor is I.D.
    .
    Please, counter these statements with whatever you have and we’ll start the debate. I assure you, I can support all of these statements with concrete examples and academic references if you truly want them.
    .
    Cheers,
    .
    P.E.T.

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  132. 132 - Franko - Oct 11th, 2008

    Goodness, can’t tell if I desire to kiss, or kick, Asetrian. Didn’t know what an “Adrienne Curry” was, before, as if that could matter. But! – excellent “trolling,” (about 125 comments in 2 days, as of Oct. 11, is no mean harvest). Thanks.

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  133. 133 - Lisa - Oct 12th, 2008

    How I love the friendship The Asetrian shows us, even though we think of things different.
    I also love the way you want to cooperate with others, even the christian ‘god’ needed the help of his son in some cases, so why do you think you are better?
    I hope His Noodlyness wil one day thouch you.

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  134. 134 - Rigitonie Rev - Oct 12th, 2008

    We should sell this to Pay Per View with two rules
    1.both candidates shall be shackled to the floor
    2.the studio audience will be given a button to press when they wish for the speaker to be gagged if the majority decides the speaker shall be gagged for 5.7 min.

    I would love to see a Biblethumper cry or at least cover their ears and yell na nanaa nannananannananaanananaanaannananana I’m not listening NNAAAAANAAANANAAANNAAAAAANAAAA I’M NOT LISTENING

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  135. 135 - Roy Hunter - Oct 12th, 2008

    “I am going to destroy all that crap you people spread. There hasn’t been a single evolutionist or atheist that has won or ever will win against me.” Surely your god is supposed to be the omnipotent, omniscient one and not you? Aren’t you supposed to be a bit more humble than that? The lord your god is a jealous god: he’s going to be pissed off at you for destroying his infidels for him. Better watch out, Arsepain…

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  136. 136 - Pixel Chixle - Oct 12th, 2008

    Asetrian,
    Are you really trying to have this battle? I’m only 14 and I can tell your an egotistical MORON. First of all, just because you don’t believe in a persons idea, doesn’t give you the right to make fun of their idea. Also, just because you don’t understand Darwin’s theory of evolution, doesn’t give you a right to bash it. Since the BIBLE has zero sense in it! I mean really, Adam and Eve? What a bunch of BULL. Secondly, it’s a free country! How would you feel if someone told you YOUR religion is nonsense? This is what you’re doing to all the Pastafarians! Let people believe what they want to believe (or make fun of) and let it go.

    Have fun with you own nonsense,
    Pixel Chixle

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  137. 137 - Jorge - Oct 12th, 2008

    HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

    AOL. You already lost the argument.

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  138. 138 - Pascal - Oct 13th, 2008

    I’m calling Poe’s Law…

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  139. 139 - haniwa_man - Oct 13th, 2008

    lol seems like someone’s been a troll to long.

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  140. 140 - pastafarian/rebel/alliance - Oct 13th, 2008

    Adrienne Curry? We can’t possibly be talking about the bi-sexual gothic model could we? Christianity isn’t so bad after all.

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  141. 141 - PeachtreePirate - Oct 13th, 2008

    I’m sorta loving that for once, all the comments on a single post are all in agreement (though it’s against the original post).

    Pastafarians truly unite in adversity.

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  142. 142 - Stephanie - Oct 13th, 2008

    Next, he’ll be debunking the theory of gravitation (i.e gravity)….

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  143. 143 - ttyp00 - Oct 13th, 2008

    ZOMG i’m like totally convinced now. LOL WTF OMG

    so, now that i’m completely clear on the fact that gawd planted dinosaurs under the soil simply for our amazement and farks up the readings on all C-14 tests just to keep up the ruse, riddle me this batman: why didn’t the dinosaurs EAT FUCKING EVERYTHING ON THE ARK. why aren’t dinosaurs in the bible?

    YOU’RE A STUPID ASSHAT

    seriously, i’m more ready to accept that god created evolution way before i’m ready to accept your utterly retarded theory on creation. stupid FUCK

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  144. 144 - ttyp00 - Oct 13th, 2008

    AND ONE MORE THING

    SERIOUSLY

    everyone go grab some tissues, make sure no one is at home and GOOGLE Adrienne Curry IMMEDIATELY

    SERIOUSLY

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  145. 145 - Landlubber - Oct 13th, 2008

    You’re on! Bring it Big A. You name the nationally televised public forum, I’ll be there with bells on.
    I assume you win your arguments by being louder and interrupting your opponent, so perhaps we should have Tom Brokaw moderate. He seems to be a stickler for the rules!

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  146. 146 - evoneve - Oct 13th, 2008

    i’m shaking in my boots! gee! i hope i don’t get crucified! and what the f*ck!?! starting your name the word ‘the’ is just stupid! if this were a comic book you would be the fat guy trying to pull off the leather jumpsuit and you’d end up dead in 2 issues tops and end up flat on your *ss within the first issue. do the world a favor, take one for the team like jesus, and never reproduce.

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  147. 147 - evoneve - Oct 13th, 2008

    P.S.- Sylvester Stallone could totally kick your *ss!

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  148. 148 - Kevin Cameron - Oct 13th, 2008

    Despite his bluster, I accept his challenge. I’m sure I can handle any argument of his. Of course, this excludes the devastating banana gambit (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z-OLG0KyR4). I hope he doesn’t know about it. Shhh. Nobody tell him.

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  149. 149 - CindyB - Oct 13th, 2008

    I think he spelled his name wrong. Should be Assetrian! Apparently he was born without a sense of humor, irony or ability to sense anything intellectual. I suppose he (she?) is proud of that.

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  150. 150 - harsha - Oct 13th, 2008

    Is this the most roundabout way of making that model’s site get more hits?

    (Can he be that smart?)

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  151. 151 - Rhys - Oct 14th, 2008

    I go to a Catholic School…

    I spend half my time laughing in Religion lessons…

    I can disprove my Religion teacher…

    I’m sure you don’t even have a teaching degree….

    I’m only fifteen…

    I believe that Evolution is much more practical than Creationism

    I’m not the only one…

    I also believe that FSM is not some metaphor for ‘evolutionism’ as you call it…

    FSM = Religion, not evolution….

    You’re on the wrong page if you are trying to disprove evolution…

    This is a good page for disproving FSM… WHICH YOU CANNOT DO IF THE ALMIGHTY IS INVISIBLE!!!!

    I also believe that posting a stupid name like “The Asetrian” would mean you are scared of saying your name in fear that someone might find you….

    I wouldn’t… I live in Australia…

    I also would like that if you WERE to try and televise that would be easily won in our favour… make it international TV…

    I would find it fun to watch your expressions, while people destroy you…

    PS. Would your name caption on TV still be “The Asetrian”? Because then people would think you’re an even bigger D**K…

    :D

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  152. 152 - sxgy - Oct 14th, 2008

    dude, another brother in christ, LET IT GO. It’s meant to be funny, just get another perspective and chill. i’m a lutheran, and i find this quite amusing. seriously, just breathe and vent somewhere else, especially not something as childish and immature as venting on the net. seriously, brother, aren’t we in high school, or what? GROW UP

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  153. 153 - Rain - Oct 14th, 2008

    Wow, I’ve suddenly been converted! Oh, thank you for showing me the way! This is great! Now excuse me, I have to run off to my local church and give them 10% of my income. We’ve got to erect that giant statue of Jesus somehow!

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  154. 154 - RootBoy - Oct 14th, 2008

    Speaking of “single handidly” Asetrian, oh great and powerful master debater, I couldn’t find “Adrienne Curry’s blog.” There are however images under that name and I must confess that I used BOTH hands! I’m grateful.

    RAmen!

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  155. 155 - JoshM - Oct 14th, 2008

    Wow are you serious? All I can say is good luck. It’s very difficult to defend something that never really happened, namely the bible.

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  156. 156 - baron_bloodbath - Oct 14th, 2008

    You don’t work for Westboro Baptist Church do you? Say hey to the Phelps clan for me!

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  157. 157 - blogg - Oct 14th, 2008

    one word; LOL.

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  158. 158 - Lord Shplane - Oct 14th, 2008

    lol@lack of grammar/spelling.

    In order to beat anyone who isn’t borderline retarded in a debate you have to at least understand the language you’re speaking.

    Also, no one wins at internet arguments.

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  159. 159 - maxxy - Oct 14th, 2008

    am happy to take on that argument you son of a bitch who do you thibnk you are you are probably sum rednek fuka who thinks hes a bit smarta then all his cuzins so srsly go fuck yaself u complete and utter loser and think about it JESUS who was a real person saved us all its fukkin stupid he saved us by killing himself like wtf i mean RETARD and as fukkin if people just popped out in to thin fucking air wow great theory of evolution on the 1st day god created SHUT THE FUCK UP SO go skrew yaself and by the way i am only 12 so u just got owned you fukkin loser BY A 12 YEAR OLD GET A LIFE AND REMEMBER NO BEING RACIST PEOPLE DONT LIKE THAT YOU FUCKING TWIT WHAT DID THE JEWS DO TO U OR BLACK PEOPLE SO FUCK YOURSELF SINCERELY Max louie ….. hahah go fuck yaself as if i would tell u my last name………… LUV MAXXY

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  160. 160 - Nibos - Oct 14th, 2008

    I will have fun with my nonsense and there is nothing you can do about it.

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  161. 161 - Jesus - Oct 14th, 2008

    Knew that bastard FSM would catch on.

    People said “Jesus , mate , look out for the gnostics and the pharisees.”

    But I knew it was gonna be the FSM I had to look out for.

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  162. 162 - Sid - Oct 15th, 2008

    Hahahaha. I’m really scared! Correct me if I’m wrong, but doesn’t *your* religion say that you must spread peace and happiness and be kind?
    The FSM says: Believe in proof. We follow it, sincerely.
    How come you don’t follow what your religion tells you?
    Nice replying to you, hypocrite

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  163. 163 - Raven - Oct 15th, 2008

    Note to self: Do not read comments left by intellgient individuals in response to Zealots when drinking soft drink.
    Hahahah. I salute you!
    Whenever I need a laugh, I come here.
    ‘Singly Handily’ Indeed!

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  164. 164 - Feather - Oct 15th, 2008

    WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA-

    Oh, wait. You’re being serious here.

    Well, whatever. Have fun with ’single handily’ taking on all the believers of the FSM in a ‘televised public forum’. We’ll just be laughing at you all the way home.

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  165. 165 - Bob O’Donnell - Oct 15th, 2008

    “Singly Handily” indeed x2. Consistently, the hate mail directed at this site is coming from marginally literate posters who also miss the entire point of it, which is to say that “Intelligent Design” nonsense can be trumped by “other” nonsense that ironically is just as rational. An 8 year old could get the point. Amazing that such a large number of people miss it. It’s that, or perhaps there are mainly 7-year-olds posting these protests?

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  166. 166 - Bob O’Donnell - Oct 15th, 2008

    And this Asstrain guy’s credentials are that he is illiterate?

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  167. 167 - mv - Oct 15th, 2008

    been 7 days and Assetrian has not brought down the site. Guess he is not all powerful.

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  168. 168 - James - Oct 16th, 2008

    So what? Just because you think that you will win a debate doesn’t mean that you will. How can you know the future? And that’s beside the point, most of the time people always think they did better than they actually did, you have what most people would call and inflated ego. How would you bring this site down? By shaming all of those godless heathens who either ignore you or mock you into leaving the site? Or just use a bot attack. It doesn’t sound like your after intelligent debate but just smack talk with no substance to really back it up.

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  169. 169 - Kason - Oct 16th, 2008

    Oh I will enjoy it. and I will laugh at you’re attempt to sway me n00b

    I am my own person.

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  170. 170 - TheFewTheProudTheMarinara - Oct 17th, 2008

    Maybe he has a point. Reading his rant, perhaps Darwin was wrong about survival of the fittest.

    Wait – if there is no sense in evolution, then let’s examine YOUR cockamamie beliefs. Perhaps then you believe God created all species just as they are? Then explain the mutation of viruses/germs/diseases like AIDS. Why are there so many varieties in the same species? Hell, that ark must have been awfully large just to hold all the types of dogs in the world.

    So, Mr. or Mrs. Ass-e-train, tell us your brilliant theories that outshine a renowned scientist like Darwin. And the experiments (reading doesn’t count) that proved your hypothesis.

    P.S. No atheist or evolutionist has ever “won” against you because no one knows (or cares!) who the hell you are.

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  171. 171 - Song - Oct 17th, 2008

    Sigh. As a tip, The Asetrian, try reading your e-mails aloud before sending them, otherwise you run the risk of sounding… unprofessional. And if you sound unprofessional, no one will take you seriously.
    As for the accusations, there’s nothing that I can say that hasn’t already been said.

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  172. 172 - Noah - Oct 17th, 2008

    Is this guy retarded there is much more evidence for evolution than “creation.” Most christians miss the point and think that when someone says that they believe in evolution it means that they believe in “the big bang theory” which is completely different. There is hard evidence for evolution I don’t understand why people can’t just accept it as truth already. I mean they are going to have to some time in the future as human beings show notable changes in our physical makeup. Unless they just say that god did that. Like the mindless slaves they are.

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  173. 173 - TheFewTheProudTheMarinara - Oct 18th, 2008

    @Noah – Asetreain doesn’t need proof of creation because it’s in his bible, the man-made handbook for God – of whom..there’s..no proof. Oh, well! Just put your brain on the shelf and let some screaming preacher do your thinking for you! It makes you feel good, doesn’t it? To just lay all your fears and misgivings at the feet of someone who can’t tell you you’re on your own.

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  174. 174 - enjoi - Oct 18th, 2008

    People, why do we have to be so angry towards one another? Christians hate atheists atheists hate christians. We all only have one life to live cant we all agree on that.? Where is the love for our brothers and sisters in the sense that were all human and share this world together?

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  175. 175 - enjoi - Oct 18th, 2008

    peace

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  176. 176 - enjoi - Oct 18th, 2008

    love

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  177. 177 - scimmia - Oct 19th, 2008

    I just wish to point out that some of us Pastafarians (notably TheFewTheProudTheMarinara) are making the rather unjustified assumption that Asetrian is a Christian… as I pointed out in my earlier post#27 he really seems to be on a mission, or at least he’s deluded enough to think so… but it ain’t so clear if it’s a mission from the Devil or a mission from some God or other (I personally suspect it’s some kind of inner psychological “devil” that is tormenting this poor guy!)
    It seems to me that he’s just attacking for the sake of attacking and abusing for the sake of abusing, without seeming to have any particular point of view or opinion of his own (as I also pointed out in an earlier post#66). If we were Christians expressing our opinions and ideas here he’d probably be attacking us too!
    I think I have identified Asetrian as “truthdigger” on the The Official Blog of Adrianne Curry http://www.adriannemcurry.com/blog/ who says:
    “ your god did a good job with creation if he couldn’t even get his most precious creations to behave themselves and had to keep torturing them with death – until of course, Jesus meak and mild came along and created hell – then we could get punished for all eternity.” and “Okay Adrianne: You doubt the bible but you believe in god and Jesus – where did you get the information from. Adrianne have you ever been diagnosed? – because what I have seen of you, especially you in Russia in the curch and at the zoo, you are in serious need of some medication”
    As you can see he’s attacking her for her belief in God so, as enjoi points out, we don’t have to be so angry towards Christians even when they apparently haven’t attacked us and we don’t need to defend ourselves! If we behave in this way we are guilty of playing along with Asetrian’s hate game of frustration… spreading dissention, animosity and heated debate between atheists and Christians (and everybody else) just for the sake of it! I personally think Pastafarians and Christians should be able to get along if we don’t attack each other and accept the absurdity of each other’s beliefs (whether they be genuine convictions or just a bit of satirical fun!)

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  178. 178 - ro - Oct 19th, 2008

    I would like to see what are the weapons you are going to use. The bible? Since it has no references nor bibliography can’t be accepted as proof.
    By the way, if you still think that your bible is going to save you, let me tell you that the bible is the best weapon against a fundamentalist. It’s like puting a rope around your neck.

    Ramen

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  179. 179 - Mary - Oct 19th, 2008

    I just love how religion is all about love and peace. Yet these are the most violent fuckers I’ve ever heard from.

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  180. 180 - TheFewTheProudTheMarinara - Oct 20th, 2008

    @scimmia, you’re right, I did assume this little nutjob was a Christian. And there are anti-evolutionists in Islam and probably other religions, too. But I stand by my statements; just substitute Torah or Quran, etc. for Bible and it’s all the same. The only reason for doubting evolution is that you fear it undermines the belief system that’s been drilled into you from the cradle.

    Are there any anti-evolutionists who are non-believers? I’d like to hear from them.

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  181. 181 - mackenzie - Oct 20th, 2008

    all I’m saying is religion is built off faith. IN any reliogon give me solid prof. that any of this ever happened and you’ll have me but who doesn’t say this is true. I believe it.

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  182. 182 - Garrett - Oct 20th, 2008

    May you be touched by his noodly appendage Asetrian.
    May he bring the gift of spelling too you and shower you with a glory of literacy.
    Ramen.

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  183. 183 - doublenegative - Oct 21st, 2008

    mary, im not so sure all those religious texts are about peace, seriously, they invoke the death punishment just about whenever they can, i think its more, peace by destroying everyone who disagrees with you
    i know the guy that wrote that hate mail agrees with me

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  184. 184 - Mel - Oct 21st, 2008

    Hmmm. Actually, Asetrian, I think Darwin might have hit you. Also, you will need WAY more than one arm to to beat his Awesome Many Noodledly-ness, as He is made (as stated before) of many noodles. Walk the plank now matey, while you can, cause if I was you I’d rather deal with sharks then a bunch of our lot laughing at you for shoving stuff down our “irrational” and “nonsensical” throats.

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  185. 185 - Ethan Laser - Oct 22nd, 2008

    Asetrian,
    I too am a believer of the good Lord. I was born and raised Catholic in the great country of Spain and I’m a flamboyant Christian. But you need to cool your jets. First of all, don’t be lashing out at Darwin, if you really knew your stuff, and you’re making it seem like you do, then you should surely know that Darwin himself stated that if anything like the cell existed then all his theories are wrong. At the time the cell had not been discovered, in case you were confused. And why are you crushing all these athiests and evolutionists. It’s their right to believe what they want. Isn’t God’s underlying message love? You know I think it might be. Hold up just a second there’s a bird on my windowsill. That’s weird, he told me to tell you something, “If we say we love God but hate others, we are liars. For we cannot love God, who we have not seen, if we do not love others, who we have seen.” That’s 1 John 4:20 (4:20, what a coincedence. Love stoners too) That little birdie knew his stuff. I suggest you really know yours too before you go hatin’. Live and let live. That’s what it’s all about. And you know nothing of it.

    Long live His Noodley-ness,
    Laser

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  186. 186 - Scimmia - Oct 23rd, 2008

    Reply to TheFewTheProudTheMarinara Post 180
    I agree that your assumption that most anti-evolutionists (or anti-Darwinists and anti-atheists) are usually raving religious fanatics is quite logical. I suppose that such fanatics are mainly Christians, since in most Islamic schools presumably the only scientific notions they even bother to teach nowadays are how to make explosive devices to kill infidels and so they’ve probably never even heard of evolution or Darwin! Apart from that they’re too busy learning the Koran by heart to wonder about where we came from… after all if your main task in life is to destroy your own human intellectual and spiritual potential and that of others then you don’t have to worry if you evolved from a monkey… since you have virtually become one now, who cares if you were one a million odd years ago! (Joking apart I wonder what the Islamic attitude towards Darwinian evolution really is? Does anyone know?)
    Anyway since I did some investigative research on The Official Blog of Adrianne Curry leading to a near-certain identification of Asetrian I think we can confidently assume that this wierdo is so angry and confused that he has it in for EVERY kind of belief and opinion and conviction held by others, whether Atheist, scientist or Christian etc, since the certainties of others threaten his own cowardly lack of faith or convictions and certainties (since he basically lacks an identity of his own he is also devoid of any mental or emotional certainties of his own!). According to an aberrant and paradoxical mechanism of aggressive denial he tries to convince himself that he has a personal identity (and the accompanying courage and force of character) by indiscriminately attacking the identities and beliefs of others.
    What we have here is therefore a textbook example of an anti-evolutionist who is a non-believer. In your Post 180 you say: “Are there any anti-evolutionists who are non-believers? I’d like to hear from them.” If you wish to find such a rare breed it seems you need look no further than Asetrian himself! You say “The only reason for doubting evolution is that you fear it undermines the belief system that’s been drilled into you from the cradle.” This is no doubt the most common reason, but in Asetrian’s case I believe that his reason for criticising and attacking the theory of evolution is that he fears the belief systems and logical convictions of all other people and the concomitant strong personal identities that such beliefs and convictions seem to represent, since they seem to constitute a threat which (in his diseased mind) could undermine his own weak personality and undeveloped sense of identity.
    I find it fascinating to psychoanalyse the contributors to the hate mail section… keep up the good work Bobby! Keep those mad deliriums and confused tirades coming!

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  187. 187 - Teh Spag-worshipper - Oct 24th, 2008

    In response to the original post (yeah, I know, I’m WAAAAY out of the loop. Spaghetti loop, that is):
    I do believe that this post can be summed up in one sentence; I IZ TEH AWESOME AN LOGIC HAZ NO EFFECT ON MEH!
    However, kudos to you, Asetrian, for knowing (almost) how to capitalise, a fact unnegated by the lack of plural in ‘evolutionists’ and the creative spelling of ’single-handedly’

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  188. 188 - Teh Spag-worshipper - Oct 24th, 2008

    @ Scimmia

    I’m actually quite disturbed by that gross generalisation of Muslims. Also, quite insulted. (and no, I’m not Muslim)

    I think the Islamic teaching on evolution is much the same as the Christian. And, as with Christians, an awful lot take it with a pinch of salt.

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  189. 189 - Scimmia - Oct 25th, 2008

    Hello Teh Spag-worshipper post 188 and thanks for your feedback! I can’t really see why you’re “disturbed” and “quite insulted” by my “gross generalisation of Muslims” If (as you claim) you aren’t one! Are you disturbed because someone has the courage to speak out and criticise gangs of deluded death-worshipping fanatics? Do you think we should just turn a blind and “tolerant” eye while they plan their attacks on the western way of life and western lives? (As well as various eastern ways of life and eastern lives) Do you think intolerance and aggression should be dealt with by permissive “live and let live” flowery words and “tolerance”? I’m afraid you’re sadly deluded if you think that will stop the cancer of fanaticism… if anything such attitudes seem to have encouraged it! Cancers have to be uprooted and stamped out for the good of the “body politic” (by the way, protecting the general public from death and fanatical brainwashing is actually a form of democracy, and I hope you can understand that!!)
    Of course the comments that “disturbed” you so much refer only to terrorist extremists and those who launch death threats against those who criticise them or refuse to believe their nonsense… I don’t think ALL Muslims are like that! If that was the case there would be all out war between them and the west, instead of sporadic attacks! If you had read my mail carefully you’d have seen that it was actually rather ironic (I even wrote “Joking apart” after my hyped-up, exaggerated half-joking tirade in order to help those literal-minded individuals who are sadly unable to recognise irony and in anticipation of any literal-minded comments such as your own!) and even within such a clearly humorous and ironic context I actually said “in MOST Islamic schools PRESUMABLY the only scientific notions they even bother to teach… etc”, instead of “in ALL Islamic schools IN FACT the only scientific notions they even bother to teach… etc”.
    Of course I’m not so stupid to think that they REALLY learn how to make bombs at school!!! But as regards my comments on the low level of science teaching in Muslim schools (as well as low level of interest of the Muslim world in alternative ideas and cultural debates) I think you’ll find that it is substantiated by data such as the fact that the number of foreign language books translated into Arabic in the entire Muslim world in a ten year period is actually less than the number of foreign language books translated into Spanish within Spain alone in ONE YEAR! (I read this information in a specialist journal a few months ago). When Islamic culture began in the 7th century it led to the foundation of universities and the training of important doctors, mathematicians and philosophers. But this high level of culture, open-mindedness and science has now become largely replaced by hatred, paranoia and self-congratulating reactionary ignorance. (Can you think of any Muslim who won the Nobel Prize for science or who made any major contributions to science in the last 100 years?? I can’t, but if you can give me any names I’d be glad to learn from you!)
    Anyway when you say: “I think the teaching on evolution is much the same as the Christian. And, as with Christians, an awful lot take it with a pinch of salt” I hope you are right! I presume you are because I still trust that people’s common-sense is stronger than their idiocy (despite the occasional evidence to the contrary)!

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  190. 190 - dark lord noodle - Oct 27th, 2008

    @scimmia

    I’m almost lost for words… are so blind to what your saying?

    “Do you think we should just turn a blind and “tolerant” eye while they plan their attacks on the western way of life and western lives? (As well as various eastern ways of life and eastern lives) Do you think intolerance and aggression should be dealt with by permissive “live and let live” flowery words and “tolerance”? I’m afraid you’re sadly deluded if you think that will stop the cancer of fanaticism… if anything such attitudes seem to have encouraged it!”

    Welcome to the land of hypocrisy.

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  191. 191 - Scimmia - Oct 27th, 2008

    @ dark lord noodle
    It ain’t hypocrisy… It’s plain talking and common sense without being cowed by blood-curdling war-cries and death-threats.
    It’s the “live and let live” people with their flowery words and facade of “tolerance” (but let’s drop a bomb on ‘em anyway or occupy their country to keep ‘em well behaved) who are the hypocrites (and who really stir up the hornet’s nest of hatred)! which group do you belong to?? flowery words or common sense? Don’t be lost for words (that’s just another way of sitting on the fence!)

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  192. 192 - Scimmia - Oct 27th, 2008

    p.s. I didnt say “Don’t be lost for flowery words” (that would be a tad tendentious!)
    oh, and to reply to your question, no I’m not blind to what I’m saying, but I think many people are blind to what’s going on in the world (and I’m not just talking about what the Muslim and Christian fanatics are doing… at least they arent hypocrites! But there is often also fanatism behind the facades of flowery words!)

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  193. 193 - Princess Psycho - Oct 27th, 2008

    Really so would you like me to hit your head with a baseball bat? I think you really need it. I feel they have not done enough scientific research on Jerks. Still what about the Dinosaurs? You creationists never seem to give a convincing answer on the Dinosaurs and they were cool.

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  194. 194 - Emm - Oct 28th, 2008

    Is this guy “The Asetrian” just stupid or is it just me? I prefered the Bullfuck guy.

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  195. 195 - TheFewTheProudTheMarinara - Oct 28th, 2008

    What is the exact quote I’m looking for? “The way for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing”. Yes, the vast majority of Muslims are good people – but what are they doing to stamp out the violent minority?

    There seem to be too much paranoia and us-vs-them philosophy in Arab lands. Perhaps because that’s one of the major tools a dictatorship (Saddam’s Iraq, Iran’s theocracy) or entrenched monarchy (Saudi Arabia) has to keep the populace under control. This philosophy can be found again and again in the Quran and in the fatwahs of radical imams.

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  196. 196 - noodleguy - Oct 28th, 2008

    FUN AND INTERESTING EXPERIMENT!

    Go through and read scimmia’s posts again, just replace the word “Muslim” with “Jew” and “Islamic” with “semetic”

    WELCOME TO NAZI GERMANY!

    sorry, Godwin’s law I know, but it was just crying out to be done :D

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  197. 197 - noodleguy - Oct 28th, 2008

    By the way this guy ass-etrain has proved natural selection wrong! Naturally if natural selection were true he would have died off a LOOONG time ago due to stupidity overload…

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  198. 198 - Vishnuisbetterthanfsm - Oct 28th, 2008

    Wow. Arrogant little bastard, aren’t you?

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  199. 199 - noodleguy - Oct 29th, 2008

    As someone who actually knows a thing or two about Islam I’m going to deny TFTPTM’s comment as well. There’s nothing in the Qu’ran more offensive than anything in the Bible. The problem is that radicals and fundamentalists are in control of the entire country.
    Imagine if the Westboro Baptist Church was in control of the government. I think you begin to see the picture, no?
    You’re very right in that they use a combination of religion, us vs. them mentality, and fear to keep control of their people. The West is also not well liked there, so the governments have to look all tough or whatever. Still, there are countries out there that are actually quite nice, the UAE for instance. Afghanistan is also okay, for the most part, it’s just in the Southern areas (especially Helmand province) and the Eastern Durand Line areas that there are serious problems. Anyway, the entire area is a huge patchwork of different situations and political climates. It’s also a patchwork of different kinds of Muslims (yes, scimmia, they aren’t all the same) but even so much of the debate is fundie Muslims vs. non-fundie Muslims. And, yes, there is a debate. Not all of the people in those areas buy into the parania. Actually…the whole Sunni vs. Shi-ite divide is somewhat false. Sure it’s a problem, but Shi-ite fights Shi’ite plenty of the time. Just look at the Battle Of Basra. In which Iran fought…on our side! Iran, you know, the bastion of hatred for the US? Yeah. They were fighting with us. Against other shi-ites.
    So guys, don’t even start to make generalizations about the Middle East. Any statement you make like that is bound to be ridiculous.
    And I would watch out about insulting Saudi Arabia, they’re our third biggest supplier of oil. And Bush is like best friends with their princes, lol.
    As for the Asetrain: bring it on. I’m no biologist but I bet I could take this guy. Now, if it were an argument over international relations (specifically in the middle east) or economics, well, I’m 99% confident I could wipe the floor with this guy. I probably also could destroy him debating over political science theory, but I seriously doubt he knows crap about game theory or social choice theory, or black swans, etc. etc.
    I’m not sure if mr. vishnuisbetterthanfsm was calling me arrogant, but if he was then sure. But honestly I sort of have a right to be arrogant over asetrain’s obvious retardation, and scimmia’s blatant idiocy. And FSM is way better than Vishnu. Proof: Does your Heaven have stripper factories, or a beer volcano? No? Yeah, didn’t think so.
    Also, Princess Psycho: Dinosaurs were indeed cool. *high five*

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  200. 200 - Schquick - Oct 30th, 2008

    No one should waste their time “debatinig” with someone like this. Instead, go get one of those dolls with the pull strings. They’ve got 18 exciting words and phrases, and are more likely to actually listen to what you’re saying.

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  201. 201 - Christian - Nov 1st, 2008

    ALL HAIL THE ALMIGHTY! Asetrian you are an example to us all, Lord Jesus is with you my friend, you cannot fail. I know of a way to vanquish darwins theory. First we must get it out of schools. The way to do this is to convince the government that evolution is a religion. The proof that its a religion is that it has 1.an origins story(the big bang) 2. it has an apocalypse (the big crunch) and 3.a religion doesn’t have to have a God(buddhism) based on these 3 facts we can destroy this. Do not be afraid of these bumbling idiots, The LORD is on our side. AMEN!

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  202. 202 - SiSkiYoUFiRE - Nov 2nd, 2008

    good stuff

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  203. 203 - Iscariote - Nov 2nd, 2008

    Oh man, this one is a heavy weight asshole …

    Don’t argue with an idiot. He will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience

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  204. 204 - ET, the Extra Terrestrial - Nov 3rd, 2008

    This guy Christian has got to be a fake. No one could be that completely deluded. If he were not a fake, he would be better able to recognize a bumbling idiot, because he would see one in every mirror.

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  205. 205 - Wdabrock - Nov 3rd, 2008

    @ The Assetrian(Yes,I intentionally misspelled you tag!)

    One question; can you-oh pompous one with infinite wisdom- explain to myself and a motley gang of Pastafarians, the existence of hermaphroditic animals? You know, Moses didn’t need two of them, and if gays are an abmoniation, why he would make such animals. See if you can find the explaination in your holy book.

    Let me know how that turns out!
    rAmen!

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  206. 206 - Dan - Nov 4th, 2008

    “-The Asetrian” nice name, i like it because it sounds like “ass-train” No atheist will go near you with a name like ass-train.

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  207. 207 - the atheist - Nov 4th, 2008

    i have never laughed so hard in my life at this guy. the assetrian or whatever his name is.
    Some of the best people i’ve ever met were christian people. but i’ve also met some of the most narrow minded people in the world. Have you ever thought that it might be possible..some way, some how…that the bible is not true? that maybe its just a bunch of stories passed down for the past thousands of years? show me the proof of god. show me hard evidence of things in your religion actually existing at one point in time. although there is no way of proving they didnt exist, there is also no way of proving it did. there is no way. its impossible!! Try to prove that the flying spaghetti monster does or does not exist. that is also impossible. let people believe what they want, if it gives someone hope in their life then let them believe whatever god they want. i have seen people get so mad because others dont believe in their god. thats not fair. this is a big reason for the creation of the FSM book and website. Not to mock christianity but to get point across to many narrow minded angry christians that they should understand that other religions were created and other people find their hope and faith from those religions, which is why i am in support of FSM.
    RAmen

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  208. 208 - GOD - Nov 4th, 2008

    THIS IS GOD SPEAKING!

    YOU ARE WRONG MR. ASSETRIAN.

    GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU SHALLOW CUNT.

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  209. 209 - Christian - Nov 4th, 2008

    hello ET, i am indeed a real person, and am indeed a christian. As to being close-minded, i am allowed to be close-minded so long as I’m right. For example, if you told me 2+2=5 i would call you stupid. And no matter how long you made fun of me, or said 2+2=5, i would never agree to something so stupid. I wouldn’t even lower myself to saying 2+2=4.9999 because its wrong and its dumb. It is much better to be closed minded and know the truth, than to be open-minded and smother your mind with pointless lies. May the Lord Jesus rule over God’s people forever Amen.

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  210. 210 - Thursday - Nov 4th, 2008

    It is much better to be closed minded and know the truth, than to be open-minded and smother your mind with pointless lies.

    Okay, just a couple of notes here:

    1) If you close your mind, how will you ever know if you have been wrong?
    2) If you never consider that you may be wrong, how do you learn anything?
    3) If you knew that the truth was that 2+2=5, how could you ever discover otherwise?
    4) The difference between “truth” and “reality” is that the first is subjective, the second objective. Truth is something you carry with you in your mind; reality is what’s there.
    5) Happy to have “the Lord Jesus rule over God’s people”, so long as he sticks to ruling only them.

    Just waiting for that Celestial Hoover to suck y’all up to your reward… and hoping it comes soon.

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  211. 211 - Plague Chicken - Nov 5th, 2008

    Hey Mr. Christ-ian

    I hardly think pointing out that 2+2 does not equal 5 would qualify you as close minded. Clinging desperately to unproven beliefs and trying to force the rest of the world to accept them…now that is coming closer to the mark of close mindedness.

    I’m supremely curious as to how one can be close minded and know the truth, unless the truth was inside your closed mind to begin with. However, that would imply that your ‘knowledge’ of ‘god’ and ‘truth’ is entirely self-created, and thus no better (or worse) than any other human invented notion.

    Hmm. Delusions for fun and prophet. (yes it is misspelled – purposefully)

    cheers

    PC

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  212. 212 - Zane - Nov 5th, 2008

    @Christian, whether you are indeed a real person or not and not simply a troll I don’t really care. But for the sake of argument I’ll assume you are real. There is a major flaw in the argument that you made in your previous comment.

    1. Darwin’s theory has nothing to do with the Big Bang. The theory of natural selection, and the extension evolution makes no claims about the very beginning. Some people do try to explain it with abiogenesis, but that is not part of the theory of evolution.

    2. The Big Bang while being a theory about the origin of the universe is not mutually exclusive with religion. You are still free to believe that it was God that started off the Big Bang. In fact, in 1951, the Catholic Church officially pronounced that the Big Bang theory was in accordance with the bible.

    3. The Big Crunch is not claimed to be fact. The universe as we understand it now is based upon the Friedmann model. In one of these models, the expansion of the universe is not sufficient to overcome the force of gravity that acts on all matter. In this model the universe will eventually stop expanding and begin to contract back down to a single point. The second model is a universe in which the universe is expanding so rapidly that the gravitational attraction can never stop it, though it does slow down a bit. And the third model is a universe right on the edge where rate of expansion is just enough to outpace gravitational attraction. That universe increases in size forever, but the speed decreases but never quite reaches zero. According to the best scientific knowledge currently available, adding up the mass of all the stars we can see and other galaxies we only have about 1/100th of the mass needed to cause a big crunch. Even adding in dark matter which is speculated to be there because of its effect on the gravitational attraction on stars and galaxies we only get about 1/10 of the matter needed to cause a big crunch. So current scientific theory does not support a Big Crunch as you suggested.

    4. You’re quite right in saying that a religion doesn’t need a concept of God to be a religion, however there is a key component that separates religion from science. Religion, with the exception of the CotFSM, is based upon certain doctrines. These are believed to be correct and unchanging. Religion tries to explain questions such as why we are here and what our purpose in life is. Science tries to explain how the universe works. Yes, sometimes it gets it wrong, but the strength of science is that when experimental data is shown to not correlate with current theories, those theories are modified or abandoned to account for this. Aristotle believed that everything was made up of 4 elements, Water, Earth, Fire, and Air, but we now know that to be incorrect. The ancient Greeks also thought that the atom was the smallest unit of matter, then we thought that atoms were made up of protons, neutrons, and electrons and that those were the smallest units of matter. We now know that to be incorrect as those are in turn made up of quarks, which come in 6 ‘flavors’ and 3 ‘colors’. Who knows perhaps someday we’ll find a smaller unit. And when that time comes we’ll alter our theories.

    Anyways, I could continue to rant on about the scientific process, but I grow tired. So I will leave you with a question. Why are you so against science? Why is it that you feel that science is such a threat to your religious beliefs? Evolution does not say that we came from monkeys, and it makes no claims about how life on earth started. You can still believe that God created us in his own image. Maybe he started life and set it in motion knowing that the process of evolution would eventually create us. Maybe God set off the Big Bang knowing that the evolution of the universe would eventually lead to us. Since science makes no claims about the supernatural, it neither says there is a god, nor that there isn’t.

    Peace and Long Life,
    Zane

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  213. 213 - Dan - Nov 5th, 2008

    “It is much better to be closed minded and know the truth”

    Why is it the closed minded ones always think they’re the ones who know the truth? This guy is the missing link.

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  214. 214 - ET, the Extra Terrestrial - Nov 5th, 2008

    “I am allowed to be close-minded so long as I’m right.” That’s one of the most close-minded statements it’s possible to make. How do you determine that your chosen belief is correct if you refuse to examine alternate possibilities? I was educated as a scientist – I have a BS from Rensselaer. One of the things you learn as a scientist is to accept the possibility that virtually anything you think you know MAY be proven wrong by new evidence. Evidence is crucial to the pursuit of science. Evidence is completely lacking in religions. Evidence is what we base all our everyday decisions on – whether it’s safe to cross the street, is the roast done yet, does the lawn need mowing, etc. To decide that it’s safe to cross the street based on the idea that “I know it’s safe because I’m right” would be potentially fatal a discouraging percentage of the time. Plate tectonics was first theorized in the 1800’s, and roundly denounced as absurd by a scientific community that “knew they were right” about it’s absurdity. Yet today the theory is accepted universally, and the associated movements are measured daily. But those scientists KNEW they were right! Using christian’s reasoning, it doesn’t matter about the ongoing measurements and the associated potential for predicting earthquakes – because they knew they were right they were therefore right, and nothing else matters.
    Open your mind to the world around you. You’ll be amazed at what you’ve been missing.
    RAmen

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  215. 215 - Wdabrock - Nov 5th, 2008

    @Christian,
    Just what is it about evolution that you have a problem with? Forget about the religious diatribe; just the science.
    Being descended from apes? The concept of man figruing out how nature works without asking for divine intervention? Whats the problem?

    All you do is talk about being right. Period. You’re right, the bible is right, and you have the right to be close-minded. Only on the last point can I let you off the hook. A belief in god isn’t science, guy. God doesn’t come into labs and do creation studies for humans. You can believe what ever you want, but for you to knock real science, that has done more for humanity than religious belief has, simply because you and others like you insist on being hard-headed is pathetic.

    Yourself and the Assertrian are the kinds of people who burned people at the stake because they didn’t kowtow to the Catholic Church, went to foreign lands and told the native people that their dead relatives went to hell because they never heard of JC, fought crusades against the heathens who wanted to read bibles themselves,rather than have them recited by clergymen.

    I was once like you, Pip. Believed that all I needed to do was read the bible and nothing else. That having a single independent thought contrary to christianity would send me to hell. Only the ministers and clergy had the right to speculate scripture. It is all a trap. To subjugate your mind and will, to make you not ask questions about the world around you, too keep you in the dark.

    Socrates invisioned humanity as people living in a cave facing a wall; only knowing of the world by the shadows cast on the wall. And one day, someone has the courage to turn around. Its called enlightenment.

    For your own sake, please turn around!
    rAmen.

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  216. 216 - Bhagwad Jal Park - Nov 5th, 2008

    Do you really think that any public forum is going to waste all those resources on you? Just because you claim to be competent enough to take on the world by yourself?

    But then you’ll have Jesus by your side. Sok. The world will have the Flying Spaghetti Monster on it’s side! And we all know that Jesus isn’t as strong as the FSM.

    But not gonna happen kiddo. No way you can get anyone to spend that much money on you :D

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  217. 217 - TheFewTheProudTheMarinara - Nov 6th, 2008

    If Darwin knew of this guy, he would have come up with the companion Theory of De-Evolution: survival of the most arrogant.

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  218. 218 - Manuel Dexterity - Nov 6th, 2008

    The Asetrian deserves our sympathy and understanding: any Freudian who notes the “single handily”/”single handidly” stuff will realize that he is terribly conflicted and guilty over issues of self gratification. And the chest-pounding paranoia is more of the same. Please, Pastafarians, show your better selves and welcome Asetrian into the warmth and peace of His Noodly Embrace.

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  219. 219 - duff - Nov 6th, 2008

    What pathetic public access channel is going to cover a debate with ass train in it. Hating the theory of evolution doesn’t make it wrong. If I hated gravity it would still require me using an airplane, ladder, or forklift for me to get more than three feet off the ground you fucking tool. Would you hate us less if we believed in Scientology or were Mormons. I would call you a fag but I realize that homosexuality is not allowed in the Christian faith unless of course you are the one doing the talking on Sunday mornings, and because I would be demeaning gays. The FSM Church has yet to shame me or make me feel guilty in any way shape or form. I realize that shame and guilt are two of Christianity’s basic tenents. Take your third grade education and your inbred upbringing and shove them up your fucking ass. I look forward to a very civil and rational debate.

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  220. 220 - Mario - Nov 7th, 2008

    @Christian…look at the concept of abstract algebra, and you will find a word of what happens when 2+2 no longer equals 4

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  221. 221 - BlackBard - Nov 10th, 2008

    Re: #214 – November 5th, 2008

    ET, always a pleasure to read your comments. I was particularly interested in your response to the statement, “I am allowed to be close-minded so long as I’m right.” You asked, “How do you determine that your chosen belief is correct if you refuse to examine alternate possibilities? I was educated as a scientist…. One of the things you learn as a scientist is to accept the possibility that virtually anything you think you know MAY be proven wrong by new evidence. Evidence is crucial to the pursuit of science. Evidence is completely lacking in religions.”

    You are exactly right that evidence is essential to knowledge. I disagree, however, that “evidence is completely lacking in religions.” The critical element, here, is to define what constitutes “evidence.”

    “Evidence,” as used in science, is not the same as “evidence,” as used in religion. I am not arguing that both uses will lead to knowledge, just that the people using the word ‘evidence’ in each sense, are employing different definitions of the term. Unfortunately, this often leads to misunderstanding. Just consider how people confuse “theory.” In one sense, “theory” means an established explanation, based on independent principals. In another sense it just means a wild-ass guess.

    RAmen

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  222. 222 - Rand - Nov 10th, 2008

    Wow! This is a very heated discussion. Go Pastafarians!!

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  223. 223 - scimmia - Nov 11th, 2008

    I’ll just make a very quick reply to 199 noodleguy – Post #199 October 29th – because I don’t have the time or energy to list the hundreds of thousands of cases of fanaticism and human rights abuses in Islamic countries regarding which for some reason noodleguy seems to have turned a blind eye… a factor which clearly negates his rather arrogant presumption to be an expert on these countries.
    Noodleguy, you claim to be “someone who actually knows a thing or two about Islam”…
    But then you say stuff like “there are countries out there that are actually quite nice, the UAE for instance.”
    I personally don’t really see what is “actually quite nice” about a country where the following human rights abuses take place:

    Migrants, mostly of south Asian origin, constitute 95% of the UAE’s workforce and are subject to a range of human rights abuses. Workers typically arrive in debt to recruitment agents and upon arrival are often made to sign a new contract in English or Arabic which pays them less than had originally been agreed. Visa and travel costs are typically added on to the original debt, and thus within hours of their arrival, workers often find that their debt-repayment time has increased significantly, possibly by years.
    Confiscation of passports is officially illegal, but in reality the practice is accepted by the authorities, and employers retain the passports of all of their semi or unskilled employees. All of the workers interviewed by Human Rights Watch in a 2006 report had had their passports confiscated. The kafala system of employment, which ties an employer to one employee and prevents him or her from seeking alternative employment without the expressed approval of the original employer operates in the UAE. Workers are therefore dependent on their employer for housing, wages and healthcare. The lack of proper enforcement mechanisms of the country’s ostensibly strong labour laws means that in practice employers can break the laws with little fear of prosecution. Accordingly, non-payment of wages, cramped and unsanitary living conditions, poor safety practices, physical and mental abuse are widespread.
    The issue of sexual abuse among female domestic servants is an area of extreme concern, particularly given that domestic servants are not covered by the UAE Labour Law of 1980 or the Draft Labour Law of 2007, which was heavily criticized by Human Rights Watch. The falling dollar has meant workers have been unable to service debts and the incidence of suicides among Indian workers has reportedly been on the increase. Worker protests have been heavily cracked down on with reports of collective expulsion and imprisonment. The government has ignored international pressure to introduce trade unions despite repeated promises to do so going back to 2004.
    From the perspective of international human rights law, the UAE is in violation of its obligations under the terms of the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination, in particular where its treatment of non-citizens is concerned. It is in violation of its obligations under the terms of the International Convention on the Elimination of Discrimination Against Women, particularly where its treatment of domestic workers is concerned. Recent initiatives to stamp out the practice of child camel jockeys have headed off criticism that it violates its obligations under the terms of the International Convention on the Rights of the Child. There is also an argument that the UAE is in violation of its obligation to stamp out the debt bondage which is widespread in its territory and furthermore that the state is itself involved in and profits from that debt bondage.
    Even though the UAE government has made some advances in the protection of human rights, the U.S. Department of State notes in its annual report on human rights practices that numerous fundamentalist practices and policies exist to the contrary.
    Guest workers are brought in from South Asia, and a common objection is that they are grossly underpaid as their passports are held by their employers. There have been many reports of unskilled workers getting underpaid, and complaints of segregation abound.
    The form of Sharia (the body of Islamic religious law) exercised in the UAE prohibits ’sodomy’, effectually outlawing any homosexual relationships. While the UAE tries to put on a public image of tolerance, homosexual behavior in public may get a person imprisoned and then deported.
    The UAE also does not allow individuals past retirement age to stay within the country without a job. Upon retirement, residents must return to their country of origin. People with TB, Hepatitis C and AIDS are also discriminated against, any non-citizen found with these illnesses may be deported.
    Discrimination in the workplace is common, prospective employers will specify religion, nationality (and even regional origin in some cases) and also specify the sex of required candidates within job advertisements. It is very common to have different pay scales depending on nationality and sex. Policies are in place in certain instances where state employers are required to fill in vacancies with UAE nationals, a process called Emiratisation.

    And this is only a small part of the multiple abuses and political corruption that take place in this most advanced and enlightened of Arab countries… I happen to have a friend who was a journalist there, and I can tell you that the above mentioned abuses are only the tip of the iceberg!
    But oh, if noodleguy the great expert says this place is “actually quite nice” let’s go there to be underpaid, exploited, sexual abused and beaten or even executed if we insult Allah or criticise His Great Highness Sheikh Khalifa bin Zayed Al Nahyan!
    I can only imagine that noodleguy wore a burquah or hijab which completely covered his face so he couldn’t see anything during his visit to this “actually quite nice” place… and he has the presumption to call my comments “blatant idiocy”… now that’s what I would call blatant idiocy (if I was into gratuitous insults like noodleguy!)
    Maybe for noodleguy the fact that those who suffer these abuses are mostly mostly of south Asian or at any rate non-US origin means they are of little consequence??
    I think he shows his true colours when he says “And I would watch out about insulting Saudi Arabia, they’re our third biggest supplier of oil. And Bush is like best friends with their princes”… Well, I’ve got news for you noodleguy. Bush ain’t the president anymore! And the fact that he was best friends with their princes strikes me as an excellent reason for “insulting” them (although I’d prefer to talk in terms of criticising them rather than insulting them… it seems that you’re the one who’s into the insults!)
    Perhaps noodleguy thinks that just because “they’re our third biggest supplier of oil” and were best friends with Bush they should be supported and helped to continue with their fascist-style religious-based dictatorship and bloodthirsty fanaticism? Now that’s what I would call blatant immorality and a hypocritical defence of evil due to base economic interests (if I was into gratuitous insults like noodleguy!)
    I could go on and talk about the “worst” Muslim states for hours and hours but this info about the “best” of the Muslim states (even noodleguy would agree on that!) should suffice for now… and I don’t want to scare the children before bedtime!

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  224. 224 - scimmia - Nov 11th, 2008

    P.S. of course it would do some good to dark lord noodle (Post #190 October 27th) who bizarrely accused me of hypocrisy (one wonders if he knows the meaning of the word!!!!!!) to read the above post… he might actually start to understand what hypocrisy really is all about (although I suspect it may be a bit beyond his powers of comprehension, just for now).
    I sincerely hope that a careful reflection on the situation in certain Muslim countries will also help my dear old friend noodleguy to understand who is really closer to “NAZI GERMANY!” certain Muslim States (I won’t say “all Muslim States” Allah forbid!), or those who have the nerve and the clear-sightedness to criticise (I won’t say “insult”) them…

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  225. 225 - KiSuM - Nov 13th, 2008

    Notice how all the hate mail is by Christians….The least understanding people in the religious world.

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  226. 226 - schneeg - Nov 13th, 2008

    to the guy that wrote this: where is god? give me his location.

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  227. 227 - Will - Nov 16th, 2008

    aisle 7, right next to the ravioli.

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  228. 228 - bakunin - Nov 16th, 2008

    BlackBard, (post 221) if you want to contend that religions use a ‘different definition of the word evience’, then shouldn’t you provide said definition? Once you’ve defined “religious evidence” (as opposed to the kind the rest of us are using), could you give some examples? I’ve heard wonderful things like: “The number Pi is evidence of God” and am curious if this is the kind of evidence to which you refer- things someone doesn’t understand so must be the product of the divine.

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  229. 229 - Kyra - Nov 17th, 2008

    I’d like to be pen pals with him.
    And just because you’ve never lost an argument doesn’t make you right. It makes you stubborn. =D

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  230. 230 - Nick - Nov 20th, 2008

    I’ve just goolged Asetrian and can only find one reference to him off of this site and that is simply a mis-spelling of “ascertain” – strangely enough on a missonary’s blog.

    What happened to the thousands of posts?

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  231. 231 - sparky - Nov 25th, 2008

    how come all the angry respondants can’t spell, have no grammar and seem highly outraged that people may be able to think of things on their own? “single handily”? what on earth does that mean? Ah well if it weren’t for angry zealots who would we giggle at…

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  232. 232 - littleanimal - Nov 25th, 2008

    The fact that you signed up for Aol reflects how stupid you are.

    Loving the cow quote in your blog, by the way. Don’t have children please.

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  233. 233 - Jay - Nov 27th, 2008

    I have a thought that I don’t think you have ever considered, my friend.

    I am sure that your faith is unquestionably solid as are the faiths of many people on this majestic creation of the almighty FSM, however, I don’t think you have ever seen the danger of this kind of fundamentalism first hand.

    We all remember where we were and what we were doing when the towers fell on september 11th. Despite speculation as to our governments involvement, it is generally accepted that it was caused by fundamentalist extremists from the muslim camp. We all have seen the effects of this action.

    What I would bet not many of you have ever experienced is the ordeal of being shot at by an extremist. Or having to shoot back. Or having to deal with the fact that you just killed a human being today. Or following that up with chow, a phone call home, and a killer Halo 2 match with your buddies before the next mission.

    People ask where is god when this shit happens. People blame god for it happening, and people say to themselves that there is no way that god could exist because a loving god wouldn’t allow this to happen.

    I say that it is people like you, asterian (whatever your name is), that make this shit happen. So just remember, when you finally get fed up with debating us, and realize that you can martyr yourself by blowing up a science class with a bomb, people like me are watching you. And we have quality weapons, with bitchin scopes. And we don’t have any reservations about making your head go POP.

    Hopefully it never turns to that in the states, but until you start reading books other than the bible, or the koran, or any other holy book without a single grain of skepticism, your hatred for the rest of us will continue to grow, and I have seen the ends of hate. They only make more beginnings.

    A Staff Sergeant, US Army

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  234. 234 - The Impaler - Nov 30th, 2008

    OK everyone. We can stop. 233 posts since early October and Asetrian has not bothered once to return to this blog and defend himself.

    The evidence is clear. Somewhere in this blog he must have stumbled across a blog comment that convinced him he was wrong. He has been touched by His noodly appendage. We will all party with Asetrian under the beer volcanos and stripper poles. Well done to all who contributed for each of you played a part in his conversion.

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  235. 235 - Francesc - Dec 1st, 2008

    “If darwin knew of me, he would have never come up with ridiculous theory that doesn’t have a single gram of sense in it”

    That’s the only sentence in your mail that i can agree with. If Darwin had known about you, he never would have thought that humans evolved from apes

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  236. 236 - TRDD - Dec 1st, 2008

    So I went to Adrienne Curry’s blog, and I read the does god exists part. I assumed that the name I should look for would be something similar to The Asetrian. If not it makes me wonder if you were hoping we would go and find someone’s compelling argument and just think hmm this must be him wow I am converted now! Even so I found no such argument there other then what she started. Seeing as hers was one of the few open-minded ones I don’t know how you can beat her, she pretty much admits that she doesn’t know for sure what’s out there but thinks there is more, sorry it takes more than your opinion to make her wrong (maybe some tangible proof, besides a book that has been written and rewritten so many times that who knows what its validity is). I am going to however assume that you being on a debate on National TV would be similar to an Evangelist. No matter how many people like your idea it still doesn’t make it right. That is kind of like saying, “Oh I don’t like this so I am going to pretend something else.” well good luck with your destroying and any time you want to set up that debate on National TV let me now I will be there. If you want your arguments to be awed in send us the name you post under or a direct link to the site, its a bitch to search for that stuff.

    Ramen
    TRDD

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  237. 237 - Wench Nikkiee - Dec 1st, 2008

    @233
    “until you start reading books other than the bible, or the koran, or any other holy book without a single grain of skepticism, your hatred for the rest of us will continue to grow”

    RAmen Jay
    Stay safe

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  238. 238 - flipper - Dec 1st, 2008

    aHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    that guy wouldnt win an argument with my dear grandmother, who is lacking a few marbles…

    how can you win an argument when you do not have evidence to back up your point of view? Or does he plan to win in terms of decibel level:

    COLBERT TO O’REILLY: Some people criticise what you say but they never give you credit for how loud you say it.

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  239. 239 - Low Level Orc - Dec 1st, 2008

    Does your Bible explain why the Earth revolves around the Sun? Or why it is in fact the third planet of nine? And why our solar system is only one in billions of others?
    Does your Bible explain why, if gays and Jews and Muslims and everyone else are evil and deserve nothing more than to be burned alive and dropped into a deep ocean, are they here? If your God is all-powerful, why doesn’t He simply damn all the rest of us? Why did He make us in the first bloody place?

    To sum up…

    “If you’d have thought, you’d have thought that the king is hardly going to want other dragons dead, is he? They’re probably distant relatives or something. I mean, it wouldn’t want us to go around killing its own kind, would it?”
    “Well sir, -people- do, sir.”
    “Ah, well. That’s different. That’s ‘cos we’re intelligent.”

    Raagh!

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  240. 240 - Davy Jones in His Latter Years - Dec 1st, 2008

    The Impaler is right, Jay is somewhere out there afraid to admit to his previous mistakes prior to enlightenment.

    Jay,
    Welcome to the true faith (or lack thereof), me hearty! Just speak up and you’ll find us a sharing group of lubbers. We’ll even spot you your first eye patch and grammar book.

    Oh, don’t worry about the national televised debate. It wouldn’t have worked out.

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  241. 241 - jambomuffin - Dec 2nd, 2008

    Oh no! It’s the Second Coming of Jesus, we are all doomed!

    ……I’le take my chances with the flying spaghetti.

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  242. 242 - Marcy Marc - Dec 2nd, 2008

    If i met this guy in the street or on his never will be T.V show i would not be a pastafarian for the next 10 minutes. Facts can be proved like evolution, God cannot be proved and thus cannot exist also according to loophole in the bible that he can only exist through faith if we knew he existed he would therefore cease to exist as in the famous arguement in “Hitchiker’s guide to the galaxy”. “The argument goes something like this: ‘I refuse to prove that I exist,’ says God, ‘for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing.’ “‘But,’ says Man, ‘The Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn’t it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don’t. QED.’ “‘Oh dear,’ says God, ‘I hadn’t thought of that,’ and promptly vanished in a puff of logic. “‘Oh, that was easy,’ says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets himself killed on the next zebra crossing”. So you still want to wind me up. And do you really think dissaprove Darwin you jackass he had hundreds of religious nuts like you (not all religious people are nuts just a small minority) and he still went on to prove this theory if the world was made of idiots like we would devolve and be stuck in the same position for all eternity and that is what really is dimbass.

    P.S you cant win against me ever, ever, ever.
    Ramen

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  243. 243 - Jay - Dec 2nd, 2008

    Thanks guys. I think Im gonna cryyyy.

    In all seriousness, it is nice to have this “fellowship” with other people that see the world for what it is. This new “theology” is the perfect thing for bringing us all together against greater evil.

    the “man”.

    remember, all things are pasta bowl through him

    RAmen

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  244. 244 - Ponedonkey - Dec 3rd, 2008

    RAmen, Brothers. People like this are in need of mental help.

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  245. 245 - Can You Beleive Some People? - Dec 3rd, 2008

    Pretty much, what Marcy Marc just said in the comment below is what I would have said. By-the-way, LOVE the Hitchhikers quote, favorite books. Anyway, it’s true, you are not a very intelligent person “The Asetrian”, for you would know that this entire site’s purpose is not to evoke believe in the FSM, but rather to incite thought on religion. We are not trying to insult your beliefs, but rather come across provable truth, and to analyze religions. God is as real as the FSM, who is, in turn, as real as a Vogon. (read Hitchhikers).

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  246. 246 - Chase Castellano - Dec 4th, 2008

    This might have already been said… but if history serves me correctly.. Darwin was ACTUALLY SENT by Christians to study and prove to people about God and him creating everything!

    It gets better.

    When Darwin came BACK, the Christians LOVED IT. Here was irrefutable science that God was so smart that he created evolution to pick up the slack!

    But then…you know… we Christians are fickle little idiots.

    Yea, though I may be a Christian, if the FSM DOES exist, laddies and lassies, please allow me a spot a’tha’ floor t’eat tha crumbs that fall!

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  247. 247 - Bertram - Dec 8th, 2008

    To Marcy Marc, #241.

    I do not know which school of science you use to “prove” things. Ordinary, positivistic science disproves and makes probable.
    It is actually because of this ability to be disproved and the everlasting quest to do so, that science makes sense.
    If we “know” instead of theorize, we become dogmatic and – in the end – religious.

    Kind regards,
    Bertram

    P.S. “Doubt is an unpleasant condition, but certainty is absurd.” – Voltaire

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  248. 248 - Erik - Dec 9th, 2008

    to the writer of this and other disbelivers that would like to kill us:
    Lemme start off with a little background, i was a roman cathloic for all my life and found it too hippocritical so i tried to find fulfillment in other religions and this is where i found it, in FSMism. So i know that it is the teaching of the catholic church that other religions are not bad, just as long as we are happy with that god. We are essentially worshipping the same thing with a different face, why cant u all see that!
    you would rather cast us down like pontious pilot did to jesus then look at us and say wow those guys are happy and leave it at that, but no, instead, like the many opressors of catholocism, you decide to ridicule us for our so called “weird beliefs”. as you may recall that is what the early christians had to go through! see the similarity and again hipocracy goes to kick christianity in the balls.
    So to all you disbelivers RAmen i say to you RAmen! maybe one day, when you are being denied your admittance to stripper factory and beer volcano heaven, you will remeber this and say why did we ridicule them why couldnt we just accept them and leave them alone!
    All praise to his noodlyness and his great noodly appendage,

    Erik
    RAmen

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  249. 249 - Boarg - Dec 10th, 2008

    As long as he doesn’t single handidly take us on in a spelling test. I know it’s already been noted but I just had to chime in. The new tactic of ominous threats is a pleasant change from the normal scream-until-your-pickup truck-can’t-take-no-more style, though.

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  250. 250 - Dr. He’ber’t Gaulti’er - Dec 13th, 2008

    This bloke is totally right. He is living proof that evolution is false and misguided. He still uses AOL and stands defient in the face of ISP’s everywhere. You go my little AOL friend. Let your voice be heard for you are the anti matter to Darwin’s matter. I bow before you and lay defeated by your prowess and bewildering intellect. You are the chosen one and your voice shall be HEARD ALOUD and Proud, at least to those still using AOL.

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  251. 251 - Mac N. Cheez - Dec 13th, 2008

    Wow! You must be the biggest, bravest christian soldier of them all!

    I bow in your presence. I deny evolution.

    (just kidding. you truly have NO idea how big a FUCKTARD you are, do you?)

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  252. 252 - jay - Dec 17th, 2008

    gosh, i sure wish i had known this guy sooner. Really, if no atheist/biologist/darwinist can stand up to this great creationist, why have we never heard of him before? he should be all over CNN/MSNBC and NPR. sarcasm aside i am surprised he hasnt been on FAUX News.

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  253. 253 - CHRISTIAN PASTAFARIAN - Dec 18th, 2008

    THESE PEOPLE WHO CLAIM TO WORSHIP GOD ARE THE REAL SELL OUTS. ONE OF THE FOUNDING PRINCIPLES OF THE RELIGION IS TO ACCEPT THE IDEAS OF OTHERS. MY BEST FRIEND IS AN ATHIEST AND I NEVER TRY TO TELL HIM HE IS WRONG. THESE PEPLE RIDICULING FSMism ARE JUST LIKE THE PRIESTS IN THE STORY WHERE JESUS WAS TALKING TO A PERSON WHO MADE SOME BAD CHOICES AND THEN THE PRIESTS RIDICULED HIM. all the people who ridicule the people who worship a plate of flying spaghetti can count on going to hell for their actions.

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  254. 254 - keepfoldingit - Dec 18th, 2008

    Fucktard really seems to be the insult of choice for the religious right…Just a couple thoughts:
    I like this post a lot, I just wish this guy had a little more confidence in himself.

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  255. 255 - jay - Dec 19th, 2008

    no way am i letting the zelots on the right hav “fucktard” it is a great word and we should all be able to use it!! they’ve already hijacked “patriot” and “morality” fucktard is a bridge too far!!!

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  256. 256 - abi - Dec 20th, 2008

    YOU SERIOUSLY DON”T BELIEVE IN EVOLUTION??????????

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  257. 257 - Dan - Dec 21st, 2008

    Abi, I believe it’s the best explanation for the evidence. What do you beleive, where’s your evidence?

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  258. 258 - Janie - Dec 26th, 2008

    So, you said you could “single handidly” defeat any scientific argument through your creationism.

    How?

    Because it seemed to me that you were just trying to prove how ignorant you are. Blind faith (and there’s a reason they call it blind) is not an argument against empirical evidence.

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  259. 259 - littleanimal - Jan 2nd, 2009

    Motivated by your post I looked on YouTube for atheist versus christian debates and as expected all I found were more christians talking complete crap and more valid points from atheists, so you lose.

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  260. 260 - - S - Jan 4th, 2009

    dear confused soul,

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  261. 261 - - S - Jan 4th, 2009

    I believe your post is what makes pastafarianism make the most sense. We do not push our religeon upon people, we mearly believe that if one is touched by our great creators noodley apendage. Your anger fuled rant offends me. You insult our beliefe and attemp to disproov it. I ask one question, have you ever seen god, do you know what it looks like. because i have, and its a Flying Spaghetti Monster
    -Sam

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  262. 262 - Becky ^^ - Jan 15th, 2009

    Dear Fuckwit,

    Oh my Pasta, The fact that you can post that saying Darwin was wrong proves just how bad you have been brainwashed by those bloody christians. Like Someone said earlier “Christians, Jews Islam believe in a talking snake…” That’s just plain stupid.
    Ill break it down for you ok?
    Christianity:
    The Belief that some Cosmic Jewish Zombie is going to come back to life, to repent all sins of mankind, present because some rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat some forbidden fruit off a magical tree.

    Oh Yeah, Because that’s more ‘nonsense’ than FSM. At the end of the day, nothing really makes sense. Except FSM-ism ^^.
    Go Crawl back under your shameful rock Mister Single-Handily.

    – Beckyyy.

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  263. 263 - Austin - Jan 17th, 2009

    “Have fun with your nonsense because I am going to destroy all that crap you people spread.”

    That’s a lot of spaghetti to eat, better get started, douche.

    “There hasn’t been a single evolutionist or atheist that has won or ever will win against me. ”

    You’ve obviously never had an argument with anyone smarter than an 8-year old, and besides, being smarter than everyone on AOL isn’t something to brag about…

    “If darwin knew of me, he would have never come up with ridiculous theory that doesn’t have a single gram of sense in it.”

    If Darwin knew you, he’d probably laugh his ass off at your stupidity. Even if evolution wasn’t supported by any evidence at all, it would still be more valid than Christianity.

    “And I will single handidly win. ”

    Don’t see how you can win arguments with a hand, other than the obvious “Believe in my religion or I’ll hurt you” argument.

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  264. 264 - Mr.DooDeDoo - Jan 19th, 2009

    First of all, I would like to say that this is my first post here as a newly converted Pastafarian. Anyways, I personally would love to see a debate going on between the whole of this site and you, Mr.Sunshine. I find the thought of a big, tough guy like you who could single handidly destroy our faith coming to the realization that he’s nothing more than an angst ridden, snot nosed brat that couldn’t harm a fly with the entire U.S. Army, let alone millions of Pastafarians just beautiful. I hope you’re reading this, Sunshine, and I really do wish that this televized forum of your’s will happen soon, as I could use a good laugh.

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  265. 265 - ObscurePasta - Jan 19th, 2009

    ” Have fun with your nonsense because I am going to destroy all that crap you people spread. There hasn’t been a single evolutionist or atheist that has won or ever will win against me. Don’t believe me, see how many forum discussions on evolution that you can find on aol. Check out Adrienne Curry’s blog. I just started there but that’s just for fun. If darwin knew of me, he would have never come up with ridiculous theory that doesn’t have a single gram of sense in it. I will single handily take on any and all evolutionist and atheists in a nationally televised public forum, discussing evolution. And I will single handidly win. So enjoy it while it lasts, because it won’t last much longer.

    -The Asetrian”
    Sheesh the arrogance of this guy is practically drowning the website.
    Yeah alright, I’ll take you on in a televised debate, and I’ll prove that both evolution is real, and that FSMism makes a damn sight more sense than Christianity, especially as FSM admits he wasn’t totally with it when he made the universe, I don’t see your god being that honest, do you?
    RAmen

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  266. 266 - jono - Jan 20th, 2009

    I could easily take you on anyday, and there are millions of others that could do the same, even a nine year old who taks simple science could, and I’m sorry but i don’t think they have debates in the special olympics so I guess your out of luck. I’m sure most of them have enough common sense to beat you too by the way.

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  267. 267 - Jay - Jan 21st, 2009

    Hey Religionuts,

    Fuck all this bullshit debate. The corners are chosen. Here’s the rules: Stay on your fucking side. Religious people: That means NO science. You have god. What do you need science for.

    Athiests: No imaginary friends.

    FSM: Passsssssssssta!

    Ramen

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  268. 268 - fluffy - Feb 25th, 2009

    ” Have fun with your nonsense because I am going to destroy all that crap you people spread. There hasn’t been a single evolutionist or atheist that has won or ever will win against me. Don’t believe me, see how many forum discussions on evolution that you can find on aol. Check out Adrienne Curry’s blog. I just started there but that’s just for fun. If darwin knew of me, he would have never come up with ridiculous theory that doesn’t have a single gram of sense in it. I will single handily take on any and all evolutionist and atheists in a nationally televised public forum, discussing evolution. And I will single handidly win. So enjoy it while it lasts, because it won’t last much longer.
    -The Asetrian”

    now this is what I call stupidity with a VENGANCE. lol

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  269. 269 - Ernie B. - Mar 7th, 2009

    If your going to destroy all we spread then we will do the same to you and your stuff you and your silly religion spreads.

    RAmen! :D

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  270. 270 - MeMe - Apr 19th, 2009

    No “evolutionist” would waste their time debating this douche bag. There are many things that impact our daily life (medications!?!) that are fundamentally anchored in theories of evolution. So good luck, Asetrian, if you get MRSA.

    The whole “evolutionist” thing really strikes a nerve. I think many people who use evolutionary theories for their work/research are not trying to be dogmatic but are just trying to use empirical evidence to explore our world. People like Asetrian are either not smart enough or not educated enough to realize that.

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  271. 271 - adam - Apr 26th, 2009

    have you read darwins theory? It relies on scientific fact, and has many more grams of sense than any god. however, our religion accounts for that, with the fsms noodly appendages

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  272. 272 - r4m3nzor - May 9th, 2009

    EGO MUCH

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  273. 273 - Long John Silver - May 14th, 2009

    > …that doesn’t have a single gram of sense in it.

    So a bit like your head then?

    RAmen.

    So say we all.

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  274. 274 - P-tricky - May 27th, 2009

    I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person.

    RAmen.

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  275. 275 - theFewtheProudtheMarinara - May 28th, 2009

    If the Asetarian is any example, man HASN’T evolved much.

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  276. 276 - Mad Willy - May 28th, 2009

    Hmmf !

    Dang blaggert neffer cum back fer a goode ole rownde offe mawCurry .

    Musta bin a goode fashioned troll from daze goon by ….* sigh *
    Why duz ye lot get alla bess trolls ?

    Weed addint hadda decint fowl troll fer almoss too yeers !

    Hows bowt ye lot send ‘em o’er to thee fore arm ?

    Tank ye .

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  277. 277 - euancharles - Jun 8th, 2009

    I am tempted to believe that if darwin met this man he might actually come to doubt his theory of evolution…

    How did you slip through the gaps, sir??

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  278. 278 - Lundix - Jun 9th, 2009

    Wow. I agree with euancharles. This is increadible. We have to find a new word to describe this troll, as there is no word strong enough, at least not within my vocabulary. Just … wow… Lol@u, sir, lol@u for failing in such epic measure.

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  279. 279 - Shelldigger - Jun 9th, 2009

    @ 201 “Christian” Maybe someone has covered this, havent read all the replies yet…Here I go.

    First of all Mr. christian the big bang and the big crunch have nothing to do with evolution. You are discussing cosmology. Evolution stands alone as the history, and the future, of life on this planet. Evolution, as best I can tell, takes over right after the first life sprang into being (simple singular cell organisms) since that moment it has been a dog eat dog world and those that best adapt to their environment pass along traits to their offsping, that favor their survival and abilty to reproduce.

    Evolution is observed, documented, fact that overlaps many sciences. Amazingly evolution has withstood the last 150 years of investigation, again by scientists in many fields, and the new info coming in only continues to support the theory. So much so, anyone with a half a brain now knows evolution is as much a fact as gravity.

    Calling evolution a religion is ridiculous. Evolution has facts and observations, piles of data to support it. Religion has what exactly? An oft translated book of myths perpetrated by nomadic goat herders who at that time in history maybe…maybe had a modern third grade education. Said book now in hands of pious dorks (who should get a real job btw) call them priests, reverends, or better yet…charlatans and witch doctors, who because of the power and $ involved continue to operate the biggest scam on the planet. Add the fact that any who would enter a house of worship had best check their logic at the door because…guess what? There may be a sermon today discussing how the world and everything on it was created in 6 days, or maybe a story about talking snakes, or how about an ark that supposedly carried every single form of life on the planet (in two’s or sevens depending on your buybull verse) or perhaps a tale of a guy who was swallowed by a freaking whale, survived for several days and was released unharmed. There is so much B.S. in there I dont know how a priest can honestly stand up in front of a crowd and pass all this crap off as a fact…and keep a straight face. The abilty, no, the requirement to delude ones self to the point of denying everday facts, so one can accomodate ones religion, has to be…in my book, plain damn crazy.

    So…religion, zero facts and 100% delusions, or evolution with mountains of evidence? Your choice. One is religion, the other… just what evidence supports.

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  280. 280 - Cam - Jun 9th, 2009

    Does anyone else have a little part of their brain that deals with overwhelming stupidity? I think mine just ruptured.

    Good sir, if you have ever won any sort of debate with anyone, they must have been literally brain dead. A human vegetable. Actually I retract that previous statement as it isn’t being fair to human vegetables. Maybe if you chose to argue with, say, a loaf of bread. You might be able to win that.

    As for Darwin, you might not have noticed, but his theory has every gram of sense to it. It has plenty of physical evidence. What evidence do you have to support that his theory is so truly asinine?

    You certainly have done a miraculous job “destroying” all the “crap we people spread.” I believe that the fact that people are still replying to this message on this particular website would reveal that you are fighting a losing battle. FSM, this website, they’re all still here mate.

    So at either rate, good luck with your inane battle to destroy us all, its about as effective as Don Quixote’s battle with windmills. In the mean time, feel free to read up on FSMism(and for good measure, maybe Darwin’s Theory of Evolution). Maybe His Sauciness, the FSM, will touch you with His Noodly Appendage and you’ll realize the truth at last.

    RAmen.

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  281. 281 - ex-Possible Convert - Jun 9th, 2009

    Dear Asetrian,

    I think you are at the wrong website. Evolution is just a theory. We believe in unintelligent design, and that the universe was created by His Noodliness, the Flying Spaghetti Monster. We have our Gospel to prove it.

    RAmen

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  282. 282 - Devout Heathen - Jun 10th, 2009

    One might be given to wonder, given that he promises to do things “single-handedly”, what his other hand is doing meanwhile.

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  283. 283 - sooshi - Aug 11th, 2009

    Well, come on then, where’s this water-tight and well structured argument? I’ve looked for Adrienne Curry’s blog, but can’t seem to find it, despite this guy’s belief that his “work” is of the utmost importance and finally settles this argument once and for all.

    It’s all very well claiming to be able to argue successfully that evolution is one giant daydream, but I’ve yet to see even one part of his argument.

    Perhaps he means for us to watch the “nationally televised public forum” that he neglected to name, or give any detail on… maybe that means either it doesn’t exist, or he doesn’t really want us to see it.

    Oh, I nearly forgot to mention, I’ve discovered the secrets of time travel!!! Yes, all you nay-sayers will have egg on your face very soon… I won’t say when, or how, or where, but oooooh yes, you should be nervous!!

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  284. 284 - st. pastabeard - Aug 11th, 2009

    Wow… i’m pretty sure I know this guy. I was discussing the pastafarian anthem with my friends and he just jumped me. Screamin’ somehting like ” GOD LOVES ME!!!! DIE DEVIL BOY!!!!!”
    Now, what does that say about him?

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  285. 285 - xhien - Sep 28th, 2009

    Oh no, what would FSM do? What would FSM do? I am so scared of this Asetrian guy.

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  286. 286 - The New Absolutist - Oct 1st, 2009

    Four statements’ worth of your time:

    One: I agree with The Asstrain–ahem, Asetrian. There is no Evolution. There is also no Law of Gravity–we are all held onto the Earth by the Flying Spaghetti Monster’s noodly appendages.

    Two: Darwinist Evolution, as according to the principles of New Absolutism, is nothing but an amalgamation of cold facts (now I’m not joking anymore).
    1) Genetic heredity
    2) Survival of the Fittest
    Taken separately, this Asetrian person probably wouldn’t object to each law on its own (unless he’s actually an Elite Fucktard, in which case we’re all out of our depth) but together it adds up to a concoction he/she can’t quite swallow. Why can’t the sum of the parts be equal to the whole anymore?

    Three: “The best response to a nonsensical argument is ridicule.” –Thomas Jefferson
    Good work

    Four: Doesn’t anyone think maybe this guy (or gal) isn’t legit? I mean–no name, no publicity, no great big freaking Forum of the Gods where the Champion of Lunacy defends all comers–could be just some Darwinist tired of the lack of a worthy opponent, planting a fake trash-talking post to unite all us FSMers in common pistness? Whatever, it’s a ‘miraculous’ string, I’m beholden to all you guys.

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  287. 287 - char - Oct 26th, 2009

    If Darwin’s Theory is wrong, then why do kids look like a combination of their parents?

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An elaborate spoof on Intelligent Design, The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is neither too elaborate nor too spoofy to succeed in nailing the fallacies of ID. It's even wackier than Jonathan Swift's suggestion that the Irish eat their children as a way to keep them from being a burden, and it may offend just as many people, but Henderson, described elsewhere as a 25-year-old "out-of-work physics major," puts satire to the same serious use that Swift did. Oh, yes, it is very funny. -- Scientific American




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