Hello, I am a Christian, and I would just like to know, is their any proof of FSM? If so can you please show me the proof, or explain it to me over the web please, I am curios to know. I personally believe this is just some silly religion thought up by an over active imaginative mind of someone. Who told others, and the few that believed him were hopeless in life as it was to begin looking for someone to lead them, and show them the way, so they just followed whatever he said. ( much like scientology)
-Divooneh
Hello, I am a Christian
Published by Bobby Henderson October 2nd, 2008 in Hate Mail (and concerned criticism). 383 Comments
383 Responses to “Hello, I am a Christian”
Didn’t you look at the chart? Or the historically accurate illustration of the beginning?
http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/
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http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Irony
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Yeah, it sounds like Christianity, too LOL
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Divooneh, change the target of your post to Christianity and you our not-so-cleverly hidden meaning. The irony of your post is killing me.
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Hello, I am a Christian, and I would just like to know, is their any proof of FSM?
I’d like to know the same thing about your religion.
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Hello Divooneh, I am a pastafarian, and I would just like to know, is their any proof of God?
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Dear Christian,
can you tell me any proof that God is somewhere?
Can you tell me that christian church didn’t kill tons of people from the beginnin of time ’till now?
Can you explain me how can you believe in the Vatican?
The real problem is that, if you would be informed, you could say me that ALL religions were being created by power-addicted men…
Ramen.
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No, see, I can tell you one way in which we’re not much like Scientology. Much unlike Scientology, we don’t psychologically traumatize and cause the deaths of tons of people in the interests of squeezing all their money into our pockets.
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Hello, I am a Pastafaria, and I would just like to know, is their any proof of God? If so can you please show me the proof, or explain it to me over the web please, I am curios to know. I personally believe this is just some silly religion thought up by an over active imaginative mind of someone. Who told others, and the few that believed him were hopeless in life as it was to begin looking for someone to lead them, and show them the way, so they just followed whatever he said. ( much like scientology)
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*PastafariaN..
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There is no proof. That’s the whole point. It’s a parody of religion. Your exact arguments right there could be applied to Christianity or any other religion.
Imagine yourself, or anyone, saying that about Christianity, then consider the answers you would give them. You would arrive at the same conclusion you just mentioned; “I personally believe this is just some silly religion thought up by an over active imaginative mind of someone. Who told others, and the few that believed him were hopeless in life as it was to begin looking for someone to lead them, and show them the way, so they just followed whatever he said. ( much like scientology)”
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Hello, I’m a Pastafarian, and I would just like to know, is there any proof of God? If so, can you please show me the proof, or explain it to me over the web please? I am curious to know. I personally believe Christianity is just some silly religion thought up by overactive imaginations of sheep herders.
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Well, I think the pirates & global warming chart is pretty convincing proof that global warming isn’t caused by carbon emissions. So there’s got to be an explanation for why the scientists seem so convincing when they talk about evolution and global warming. That leads pretty clearly to the intervention of His Noodliness, I think we’d all agree.
Of course, other religions also have some pretty convincing proof on their side as well. I don’t know how you argue with, “we’ve got a really old book that says so,” and “lots of other people agree with us.”
On balance though, I’m going with the noodles.
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Hello, I was raised Christian, and I would just like to know, is their any proof of the Christian God? If so can you please show me the proof, or explain it to me over the web please, I am curious to know.
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Ahahaha, classic!
Oh the blindness…
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People who follow this religion don’t actually believe that there is a Flying Spaghetti Monster. It is actually a commentary on how ridiculous other religions are.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not against people believing in God, but I am whole-heartedly against religion. People who kill others in the name of “God”, are not worthy of a place in heaven.
That being said, since you are a “Christian”, could you please show me some proof that God exists.
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The irony here is astounding. From “I personally believe this” onwards you have described perfectly how all religions started.
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Hello, I am a Pastafarian, and I would just like to know, is their any proof of your God? If so can you please show me the proof, or explain it to me over the web please, I am curios to know. I personally believe this is just some silly religion thought up by an over active imaginative mind of someone. Who told others, and the few that believed him were hopeless in life as it was to begin looking for someone to lead them, and show them the way, so they just followed whatever he said. ( much like scientology)
-Steve
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Hey, this seems familiar.
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Can anyone do anything besides just blink at this post? “Proof” from a Christian? Seriously?
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St. Thomas Aquinas gave a series of “proofs” or “ways” to know the existence of God/FSM.
The First Way: Argument from Motion
1. Our senses prove that some things are in motion.
2. Things move when potential motion becomes actual motion.
3. Only an actual motion can convert a potential motion into an actual motion.
4. Nothing can be at once in both actuality and potentiality in the same respect (i.e., if both actual and potential, it is actual in one respect and potential in another).
5. Therefore nothing can move itself.
6. Therefore each thing in motion is moved by something else.
7. The sequence of motion cannot extend ad infinitum.
8. Therefore it is necessary to arrive at a first mover, put in motion by no other; and this everyone understands to be the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
The Second Way: Argument from Efficient Causes
1. We perceive a series of efficient causes of things in the world.
2. Nothing exists prior to itself.
3. Therefore nothing is the efficient cause of itself.
4. If a previous efficient cause does not exist, neither does the thing that results.
5. Therefore if the first thing in a series does not exist, nothing in the series exists.
6. The series of efficient causes cannot extend ad infinitum into the past, for then there would be no things existing now.
7. Therefore it is necessary to admit a first efficient cause, to which everyone gives the name of Flying Spaghetti Monster.
The Third Way: Argument from Possibility and Necessity (Reductio argument)
1. We find in nature things that are possible to be and not to be, that come into being and go out of being i.e., contingent beings.
2. Assume that every being is a contingent being.
3. For each contingent being, there is a time it does not exist.
4. Therefore it is impossible for these always to exist.
5. Therefore there could have been a time when no things existed.
6. Therefore at that time there would have been nothing to bring the currently existing contingent beings into existence.
7. Therefore, nothing would be in existence now.
8. We have reached an absurd result from assuming that every being is a contingent being.
9. Therefore not every being is a contingent being.
10. Therefore some being exists of its own necessity, and does not receive its existence from another being, but rather causes them. This all men speak of as the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
The Fourth Way: Argument from Gradation of Being
1. There is a gradation to be found in things: some are better or worse than others.
2. Predications of degree require reference to the “uttermost” case (e.g., a thing is said to be hotter according as it more nearly resembles that which is hottest).
3. The maximum in any genus is the cause of all in that genus.
4. Therefore there must also be something which is to all beings the cause of their being, goodness, and every other perfection; and this we call The Flying Spaghetti Monster.
The Fifth Way: Argument from Design
1. We see that natural bodies work toward some goal, and do not do so by chance.
2. Most natural things lack knowledge.
3. But as an arrow reaches its target because it is directed by an archer, what lacks intelligence achieves goals by being directed by something intelligence.
4. Therefore some intelligent being exists by whom all natural things are directed to their end; and this being we call the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
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Uhhh… yeah.
Exactly.
We’ll show you ours if you show us yours.
Ramen
Brother Rotini
(The screwy one)
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Divooneh, can you please show me some PROOF that ‘God’ exists and isn’t created by a fool who talked with a burning bush and walked for more then -was it 40? – years in the desert? (btw, now a days they lock you up in a very special place if you talk to a burning bush)
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I’d like to point out that there is just as much a proof of FSM as tehre is of Jesus
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Yar! Welcome Divooneh! Avast! That’s an unusual name you have there!
What proof do we have;
1. Milions of people share our faith, millions of people can’t be wrong!
2. If there was no Spaghetti Monster, how do you explain the complexity of the Universe? It must have been created by the Flying Spaghetti Monster!
3. If you have faith and occasionally dress in full pirate regalia, you will be rewarded in Heaven with a beer volcano. How can you not believe in a Flying Spaghetti Monster that loves us enough to give us a perfect afterlife?!!!!
4. We have a graph! Yar!
5. What proof do you have that he DOESN’T exist?
I know this can seem pretty silly to a lot of people but Christianity is also pretty silly in parts! I mean coming back from the dead? A virgin birth in a mamalian species? This is why you must have FAITH in the FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER who will give us life after death with STRIPPERS AND BEER VOLCANOS!!!!! RAmen!
What type of Christian are you (there are so many, you can’t all be right)? What proof do you have your Christian sect’s “God” exists?
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Hello, I am a Pastafarian, and I would just like to know, is their any proof of JC? If so can you please show me the proof, or explain it to me over the web please, I am curios to know. I personally believe this is just some silly religion thought up by an over active imaginative mind of someone. Who told others, and the few that believed him were hopeless in life as it was to begin looking for someone to lead them, and show them the way, so they just followed whatever he said. ( much like scientology)
-Anonymous Gweeok
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Do I dare point out the incredible hilarity at having a Xian come and question how in the world it is possible that people could possibly believe in something with no direct evidence to support it?
The idea that Divooneh could write that post in a non-satirical manner fills me with disbelief. I truly hope (oh, how I hope) that this was a cleverly worded jab at the phrase ‘blind faith’ as it applies to the teaching purported to have been those of Jesus. Jesus, who may or may not have existed, who may or may not have said any of those things. A figure, who’s ’story’ was told to others who told others, and the few that believed them were hopeless in life as it was to begin looking for someone to lead them, and show them the way, so they just followed whatever he said.
* I just couldn’t resist a heaping helping of irony *
cheers
PC
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Divooneh, your whole post is the EXACT reason for FSM. If you re-read your post then factor in Christian elements, I think you’ll find you’ll have the same questions.
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Is there any proof that there was a guy like Jesus?
is there any proof that god exists?
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Dear Divooneh –
Hi – I’m not a Christian. So can you please show me proof of Jesus Christ? Of the immaculate conception? Of the parting of the Red Sea? Of God? Of Noah and the flood? Of heaven or hell? If so, can you please explain it to me, this proof? I am curious to know. I personally believe this is just some silly religion thought up by an over active imaginative mind of someone. It seems Christianity is used in so many destructive ways. Please explain.
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Um, well. Three Cheers to Stumble! Anyways… as far as the FSM is concerned……proof? need there be any? Christendom has no proof of virtually any of its dogma either. What very little evidence there is of even the man Jesus comes from a pretty questionable source(i do not recall any scholar making the claim that Josephus is a reliable, objective source. Let alone the claim of the man Jesus was Christ or if it were later edited into the texts). But the point of religion is to have faith. Anyone may, thankfully, believe in anything they will. Some prefer to have conviction to ideals rather than an institution of organized religion. So be it. Some may seek absolute knowledge rather than faith in the unknown. So be it. But really, your entire last sentence may be applied in its entirety to early Christianity.
and as for my posting name, it is a combination of my name and the numerals of my drivers license number, which does end in 666……makes me wish i believed in the devil :D
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Your concern is highly ironic.
To claim to be Pastafarian is to point a finger at all “serious” religions and laugh heartily. There is exactly as much proof of the FSM as there is in any other god, including your sun god, Christ (or, if you prefer, your sky god, YHVH). We would say that all religions are silly, and “thought up by an over active imaginative mind of someone.”
Unlike Scientology or Christianity, Pastafarianism costs no money, and demands no displays of loyalty or submission. It’s appeal is not based on a desire to be lead or given hope, but to enjoy yourself in the face of the sometimes brutally depressing behavior people exhibit in the name of religion (mass murder, torture, oppression, hate, ignorance, etc). It reminds us how silly the idea of invisible people in the clouds really is, and gives us the best possible invisible person to follow: one that wants us to relax, chill out, get along, etc.
If you have ever found yourself “hopeless in life” and “looking for someone to lead” you, you’re very vulnerable to people taking advantage of you via your faith. Please be careful with your money and time: both of them are precious, but the latter is of fixed and limited supply, and spending any of it bowing down to idols and idol-bearers for the sake of silly ideas and swelling egos is probably not worth it.
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Yes, actually there is proof of the existence of the FSM and you can find that information on this website. (Clicking on the “Evidence” tab might have been a good place to start) I wonder if you have any evidence for your God? Remember the bible saying that God exists and that God wrote the bible is not proof that he exists. But don’t worry, I’m not going to berate you for your beliefs since the FSM doesn’t care if you don’t believe in him so long as you are a good person (he’s not that vain).
Anyways we are not like scientology as we are not highly secretive. No one is supposed to know the whole Xenu story of scientology until they reach OT3 which means they’ll have already paid thousands of dollars to the church.
Pastafarians on the other hand are not required to pay any money to the church, although the more devout of us have bought the Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster and may have bought other things like mugs, decals, or (like myself) t-shirts.
Anyways, may you be touched by His noodly appendage.
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P.S. On a side note to all Pastafarians here, I am celebrating my birthday today in true pastafarian fashion. I’ll spend the day in my pirate regalia and tonight I will be going for a pasta dinner.
RAmen everyone.
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“Who told others…”
OK, this sort of makes sense. Sentence diagramming may be an exercise that would help you construct sentences.
So someone makes up some ideas and expects people to follow, claiming he/she will “show the way.” This is religion.
FSM followers believe that religion doesn’t belong in science class. More recently, they speak up against the misuse of Christianity to exclude or threaten human beings.
Proof? Besides the graphs, FSM can be seen in the actions of his believers.
Arg. RAmen
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First I’ld like to thank you for not being a blantly insulting troll like the other hate mailer. There is proof(mostly doctored photos), but Pastafarianism is primarily a philosophy and satire.
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Yar, another thing ya crazy persian! Were you hopeless in life when you turned to “Christ”? I notice many Xians convert after a personal crisis; tis the same thing surely?
The only difference I can spy through me glass is that Xians actively target the disadvantaged, impoverished, ignorant, children and addicted where as we wait for ‘em to come to our port on the world wide web.
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I think you’ll find that the proof for our religion is the same as the proof for yours.
So don’t go disrespecting us.
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Okay, first off, do NOT even DARE compare us to Scientologists. They kill their own followers (rather like Christianity, actually). Secondly, if you wish to learn, use your noodle and buy a copy of the gospel. It was made for a reason. ;)
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Divooneh,
Much like your religion, the church of the Flying Spaghetti monster is the truth. Just like Jesus and God are everywhere, so is the Flying Spaghetti Monster. He gives us the taste of goodness, and the breath of fulfillment.
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Hello, I am a Pastafarian, and I would just like to know, is their any proof of God? If so can you please show me the proof, or explain it to me over the web please, I am curios to know. I personally believe this is just some silly religion thought up by an over active imaginative mind of someone. Who told others, and the few that believed him were hopeless in life as it was to begin looking for someone to lead them, and show them the way, so they just followed whatever he said.
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Divooneh, a good book for you to read is “God Is Not Great”, by Christopher Hitchens. (I’m still reading it, but the author has not mentioned the FSM so far. Not sure whether that’s good or bad, maybe other Pastafarians have an opinion.) “Proof” of any religion is hard to come by, but evidence is good that – just as Pastafarianism – ALL religions are invented and pushed by humans. And both the leaders and followers in all religions have a great variety of motivations. I happen to like Pastafarianism because – unlike evangelical Christianity – it emphasizes rationality and tolerance and resists bigotry – especially creationist bigotry. (Check out Pat Robertson or the Westboro Babtist Church before you take too lofty a position about your own faith.)
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So what you’re saying is we’re as legitimate as Christianity? Thanks. I’m glad we’re getting the recognition we deserve. After all, isn’t that the way your cult started out?
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Do these people read what they write?
“I personally believe this is just some silly religion thought up by an over active imaginative mind of someone. Who told others, and the few that believed him were hopeless in life as it was to begin looking for someone to lead them, and show them the way, so they just followed whatever he said.”
Sounds like [Christianity | Islam | Judaism | ad infinitum] to me!
We have as much proof of the FSM as you have of Christ/God/Whatever. More even.
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You look like you’ve already made up your mind mr. christian. If you are here seeking answers you should not be so quick to condemn (very un-christian like but unfortunately very common amongst christians). I think you need to go back to church and pay more attention to the whole ‘love thy neighbour’ thing and ‘judge not lest ye be judged’. Why do you insist on giving your religion a bad name? It does just fine with out your help.
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As for proof – it’s written in the gospel of the flying spaghetti monster; it’s all the proof anyone with faith requires (thought you would understand that).
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The proof is that people believe, isn’t that proof enough? I mean, that’s how you know God exists. And it seems that imaginative minds 2,000 years ago told others about Jesus and God, and they, being hopeless and needing a leader, believed them. So really, our two great religions are very similar in their beginnings. And by the way, it’s “there”, “curious”, and “overactive”
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Somewhere in here is a parody of the Mac/PC commercials. “Hello, I’m a Christian.” “And I’m someone who embraces logic instead of mindlessly following the masses without question.”
Why is it that everyone who asks for things to be explained never seems to read the open letter first? Do they not click on the links? Props to you Bobby for making the site easy to navigate. I can’t understand how they don’t understand. My head hurts…I’m going to eat some pasta now…
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As luck would have it, there is as much proof of the existence of the FSM as there is for any other god. There’s even a book!
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Proof for a silly superstition?
You are soooo close to “getting it.” Just continue with your logic to its end and you eventually will.
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Hello, I am a Pastafarian, and I would just like to know, is their any proof of a God? If so can you please show me the proof, or explain it to me over the web please, I am curios to know. I personally believe this is just some silly religion thought up by an over active imaginative mind of someone. Who told others, and the few that believed him were hopeless in life as it was to begin looking for someone to lead them, and show them the way, so they just followed whatever he said. ( much like scientology)
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