this is a stupid internet meme

This is a stupid Internet Meme that has somehow turned into some kind of religion. Ranting at them is not going to help.

Before you ask, yes, I am Christian and believed Jesus died on the cross for all of us because he loved us that much.

If I may ask, though, would the FSM willing give up his own son (if he even has one) for a multitude of people who hate him, despise him, aim to obliterate his very existence? Even if this act only saved one person?

-Crystos

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  1. 51 - tris - Sep 30th, 2008

    Has anyone noticed how the representatives of the God Squad who post their delirious defences of their threatened faith (or at least they seem to think it’s threatened by the FSM!) never seem to write back to the counter comments and explanations (whether these be logical or humorous or abusive) which we adherents of a funnier faith kindly supply them with?
    How ungrateful they are!
    Why dont they give some feedback to fuel the debate?
    are they ashamed of their silly e-mails once they see the errors of their ways, or maybe they dont want to make fools of themselves even more by seeming to persevere in their fossilised faith?
    (I wish that were the case, ‘cos it would mean they’ve seen a way out of the cage of rigid conviction)
    Or maybe the whole idea of debate and exchange of ideas and opinions is just anathema (alien) to them…. and so they can’t handle it if anyone questions their beliefs and answers back…
    deep down inside are they afraid of losing their precious faith by starting to question it?
    are their religious convictions therefore so fragile?
    I think that’s the real explanation…
    they are simply terrified of any alternative truth and refuse to take it seriously… especially if it’s fun or humorous… in fact a joke can contain a serious message… I feel sorry for them in their strait-jackets of wacky beliefs… if only they could laugh at the wackiness of their own faith!

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  2. 52 - Pope Pixel I - Sep 30th, 2008

    We’re an internet meme now?

    AWESOME!!!
    RAmen

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  3. 53 - Macaroni - Sep 30th, 2008

    “This is a stupid Internet Meme…”
    Wow! Very forgiving, very understanding. (know your bible!)

    “…that has somehow turned into some kind of religion.”
    As also is Christianism. A cultural product of man. (Know your biology, know your anthropology, know your sociology).

    “.. Ranting at them is not going to help.”
    Wow again” (know your bible)

    “Before you ask, yes, I am Christian…”
    OK, I respect that.

    “.. and believed Jesus died on the cross for all of us because he loved us that much.”
    Yes, the key word: “believe”. I believe in FSM. So? (Know your semantics. Know your arguments; kwow the difference between reason and faith; know the difference between “knowing” and “believing”).

    “If I may ask, though, would the FSM willing give up his own son (if he even has one) for a multitude of people who hate him, despise him, aim to obliterate his very existence? Even if this act only saved one person?”

    That is your faith speaking. So, if I may ask, would it be any most loving father than a drunk flying and forgiving Spaguetti willing to love all of us jsut because we are this way and no willing to ask us to feel guilty for something we haven’t done? — blame the devil, of the Eden’s snake in the 3rd or 4th day…whatsoever— (know my faith; and respect it; my arguments, if you want to equate reason and faith, are as valid as yours).

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  4. 54 - Panji - Sep 30th, 2008

    Look, if ANY deity wants even a meatballs’ chance in Verona of claiming devine supremecy, She/He/It damned-well better be willing to thrown down it’s own life to save a child and not vice-versa.

    Otherwise, it’s just another self-serving, self-important (Oops! Is that spelled “self-impotent”?) wannabe working to convince you that you must serve Her/Him/It (to stroke it’s own ego).

    Pasta Be With You!
    [congregation response] “And also with you!”

    RAmen!

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  5. 55 - Panji - Sep 30th, 2008

    Sorry. Used the wrong contraction (”to stroke it’s own ego”).

    Blessed be the Forgiveness of His Divine Appendage with Balsamella.

    Pasta Be With You!
    [congregation response] “And also with you!”

    RAmen!

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  6. 56 - Ex-Captain Etay - Sep 30th, 2008

    Haha! Everyone knows that spaghetti can’t procreate!
    What a silly question.

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  7. 57 - Bx 32 - Sep 30th, 2008

    I instead will answer your question with a better one: how many people would be willing to give up their own child for a multitude of people who hate him, despise him, and aim to obliterate his very existence to only save one person? And the few that decide yes, look at their personality, and you shall find that they are crazy go nuts.
    RAmen Mateys!

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  8. 58 - Barron_Von_Hugen_Dong - Sep 30th, 2008

    FSM is a mockery to Christianity and all other religions. Pasatfarism is a troll religion.

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  9. 59 - jeremykeys - Sep 30th, 2008

    @ Pam # 47.
    Welcome! Glad to have you here. You’ll find that this is a fun place and although we tend to get a bit cranky with the silly dealers of hate-mail we’re all pretty much a great group or people. Educated, intelligent, aware, I’d like to say tolerant but sometimes idiots just get under our skin. Granted, we do expect it and I’m sure we wish people would accept us as we are expected to accept them but sometimes it just gets a bit tough. I’m sure even Mother Theresa and Ghandi had their patience tried more than once and what do you expect? We’re pirates!

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  10. 60 - Christopher Seemann - Sep 30th, 2008

    would you

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  11. 61 - Colby - Oct 1st, 2008

    I’m supprised at how many people are getting so worked up and bashing the christians over their personal views. The number 1 I’d Really Rather You Didn’t’s states the if some people dont believe in him its ok, hes not that vain. (and yes i did take that from the gospil of the flying spaghetii monster PG. 78 sentence 1) I hope that all of my fellow pastafarians will refrain from such acts, and remember the 8 I’d Really Rather You Didn’t’s.

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  12. 62 - Sirjoe - Oct 1st, 2008

    Sacrifice?
    Doesn’t real life mean nothing to Christians? Isn’t only life after death that matters?
    Jesus is in heaven beside his father. Where is the sacrifice?
    It seems to me that your God didn’t sacrifice anything. He just gave him a small amount of sorrow (which by chance he gave to a lot of other people).
    He would have sacrified his son only if Jesus was condemned to live eternally outside heaven, which is not.
    I think you overestimated Jesus death a little bit.

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  13. 63 - Id - Oct 1st, 2008

    The FSM is so powerful, that he can forgive people WITHOUT having to give up his only son! Try doing that Christian God!

    I do give you some sort of props, though, Cryptos. You’ve managed to send hate-mail without any spelling or punctuation errors! A feat deemed nea impossible. It would have been a perfect e-mail, had there not been the grammatical errors to deal with. But hey, 2/3 aint bad I guess.

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  14. 64 - trisbruce - Oct 1st, 2008

    oh,andanother thing,in continuation of my musings on the nature of Christian psychology (post #51)
    Has anyonenoticedhow +ians and thosewho defend +ian viewpoints can’t spell (don’t complain or accuse me of something similar for not putting spaces between words, it’s this crappy keyboard in the office with a knackered spacebar!)
    Note that they don’t even spell their own “special” words (like “Gospel”) right (see post #61 “gospil”!!)
    What can we therefore conclude about their average IQ? (or AykYu as they might write!)

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  15. 65 - trisbruce - Oct 1st, 2008

    BTW, don’t take it personally Mr Colby… I know you’re one of “US” but slagging off the fanatics (or trying to make them use their brains) is one of the most amusing things about this site! After all THEY invade the site of the FSM with their nonsense and abuse and as long as they do so there is no reason for your fellow pastafarians to refrain from acts of self-defence and suchlike!

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  16. 66 - Lucifer - Oct 1st, 2008

    Dear Crystos:
    You say that you are a Christian. I personally think that you are a moron and an idiot. Can’t you see that religion can’t do anything for you here on earth except take your money? The only book that mentions this dude called Jesus is the Bible. If you are such a good Christian try reading the book. It is the most fucked up book I ever read in my life. These are some of Jesus teachings. Look them up dude. They are in you good book.

    “Think not that I am come to send peace: I came not to send peace but a sword.” (Matthew 10:34) “He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.” (Luke 22:36) “But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.” (Luke 19:27. Nice guy……

    The burning of unbelievers during the Inquisition was based on the words of Jesus: “If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.” (John 15:6) So much compassion…..

    The most revealing aspect of his character was his promotion of eternal torment. “The Son of man [Jesus himself] shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.” (Matthew 13:41-42) “And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched.” (Mark 9:43)

    So much love…..

    Let me get this strait? Jesus loves us?. Get informed before you open your mouth the next time. You mentally retarded ape. You should start by looking up the word brainwashing.
    Brainwashing, the application of coercive techniques to change the values and beliefs, perceptions and judgments, and subsequent mindsets and behaviors of Christian like you.

    This is what they have been doing to you since birth.

    Lucifer

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  17. 67 - Zinc Alloy - Oct 1st, 2008

    Crystos, would your God provide you with beer volcanoes and stripper factories?

    I think not.

    Let me see now, rotting bloke on a tree or eternal beer and strippers?

    Hmmm, I think I’ve come to a decision.

    Good luck with the guilt and fear thing but I’ll stick to His Noodly Goodness thanks.

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  18. 68 - BlackBard - Oct 1st, 2008

    #61 Colby, I couldn’t agree more. Most of the messages from regular Pastafarian posters are directed at the ideas, not the people. The FSM really doesn’t care if anyone believes in Him or not. We all get beer and strippers. Some of us (Pastafarians) just get better.

    RAmen

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  19. 69 - Pam - Oct 1st, 2008

    Jeremykey #59 Thank you, I’m so happy to find that there are people with such a great sense of humor on a subject that has always been taboo to joke about. I have always joked with my children about everything (they are 20 & 22) even when they were little. We went to a Catholic wedding when they were quite young and it included communion (I think that’s what you call it when you eat the little wafers and stuff) After I explained to them that it was supposed to be the body of Christ they thought that was hilarious and it became a running joke “Get up to the table and eat your Jesus” “Mom my Jesus is cold, I can’t eat it” “Oh God, are we having Jesus again tonight?” “Is this a manwich or a sloppygod?” I know some people would find that so inappropriate but my kids have turned out fabulous. One is a computer scientist and one is well on her way to becoming a nurse. I too am a professional, a Finance Officer with the Government. I think this website is a hoot, I love it!

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  20. 70 - Meisha - Oct 1st, 2008

    Son? His Noodly-ship has a Son?! Cool! We can eat Him too! Great news!

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  21. 71 - The Andrew - Oct 1st, 2008

    Um…shouldn’t you be watching a 2 hour mel gibson snuff film right about now?

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  22. 72 - tris - Oct 1st, 2008

    Good for you Pam… you’ve got straight into the spirit of Flying Spaghetti Monsterism!
    Sounds like you were an adherent of him long ago without even knowing it (I was too!) I wish my dinnertimes had comments like: “Get up to the table and eat your Jesus” “Mom my Jesus is cold, I can’t eat it” “Oh God, are we having Jesus again tonight?” “Is this a manwich or a sloppygod?” But my Mum went to a Catholic school and they gave her the ol’ brainwash treatment with terror threats of purgatory and all that to keep the kids obedient and toeing the line (the twisted sisters!)
    and in reply to Blackbard’s “FSM really doesn’t care if anyone believes in Him or not.” Of course he doesnt… ‘cos in fact he doesnt exist (execept as a rather marvellous “internet meme”)! we all know that! but it’s fun to pretend he does exist, for a laugh at the expense of the fanatics!
    that’s the great thing about Flying Spaghetti Monsterism… it takes the piss out of itself, so it is immune from criticism from those morons who really believe in their so-called “gods” and feel duty bound to attack other people’s “gods”!

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  23. 73 - tris - Oct 1st, 2008

    PS that last message of mine was of course a reply to the Post #69 (nice number… I wish i’d had it!)

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  24. 74 - Halibut Pirate - Oct 1st, 2008

    Hi, Crystos. What’s amusing and ironic is that your belief system was once, to paraphrase you, a stupid social meme that somehow turned into some kind of religion. I recommend that you look into the historical roots of your chosen religion. Reading the Bible or Christian apologetics for that information doesn’t count… find an OBJECTIVE source. (And no, the Bible is not objective!)

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  25. 75 - jeremykeys - Oct 1st, 2008

    @ Pam #69. You’re more than welcome. I to have a child. A 19 year old daughter and she also loves this site although I don’t think she ever posts here. Like most of us here she also gets a big kick out of disorganized religion.

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  26. 76 - Casual - Oct 1st, 2008

    Nice use of the word “Meme.” I thought for a second you’d be on the right track considering the kind of literature that word usually pops up in. But then I forgot this was hatemail and you quickly confirmed your intelligence level was much lower than I hoped.

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  27. 77 - Rederer - Oct 1st, 2008

    ..um, actually the FSM has given up Trillions of his sons. did you really think that all those bowls of noodles consumed per day are simply savory, delicious munchings? no! they are the sons/sacrifices of the FSM, by whose nutrition billions of people have been ’saved’

    so whose god is the underachiever now?

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  28. 78 - NightGoblin - Oct 1st, 2008

    Why, of course! FSM would not only give His son (if He had one), but even Himself to be eaten by people like you and me — because He loves everybody that much. Why else would you think pasta is so good?

    RAmen.

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  29. 79 - benji - Oct 1st, 2008

    Then people still despise him. Nice waste.

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  30. 80 - Advantageous Mongoose - Oct 2nd, 2008

    I’m not going to believe in your god because he had his ‘only’ son nailed to a cross.

    I am however, willing to consider it, if he nails another half a dozen of his offspring to bits of wood.

    If only to get him to stop.

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  31. 81 - Michael Riley - Oct 2nd, 2008

    He’s right.
    I was looking at this site as a stupid rebellious joke, and now I see that my parents are right and I was wrong.
    I must turn back to Jesus Christ, the Lamb of God, and ask for his forgiveness in my foresaking him.

    As for you people, you KNOW IN YOUR HEARTS that JESUS CHRIST is REALITY and is the ONLY ONE WHO CAN SAVE YOUR SOULS!

    There are no volcanoes or stripper factories, such obscene things are hideous and sinful, even as jokes.

    SAVE YOURSELVES!

    HAHAHAHA! Noooooo!

    The FSM rules, I have been touched by his noodly appendage and await my entry into heaven. I hope they upgrade the strippers now and then, to Star Wars costumeplay and cybernetic strippers, and have vodka volcanoes here and there.

    I love Pastafarianism!

    RAmen!

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  32. 82 - Theo - Oct 2nd, 2008

    “Jesus died on the cross for all of us because he loved us that much”
    .
    Then why did he wake up again?

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  33. 83 - Redbeard - Oct 2nd, 2008

    @ neal – Thanks (and sorry for the long delay). I think the reason the Salvation myth treats death that way is because it was invented by people whose defining characteristic is the fear of death. The really funny part in my mind is that the myth they create effectively makes THIS life miserable! I often wonder whether, in the final few seconds before total oblivion, the most rabid religionists’ last thought is often, “Oh, shit! What a waste!”

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  34. 84 - TheFewTheProudTheMarinara - Oct 2nd, 2008

    All that sacrifice talk is SO B.C.! You know, back when people said “We had a crappy year – bad crops, 2 floods, a plague – someone big must be mad at us. I know! Let’s throw someone into the volcano!”

    Well, Pastafarians don’t throw people into volcanoes, bucko! Instead we receive refreshing beverages from them.

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  35. 85 - tris - Oct 2nd, 2008

    Hello Rederer – Post #77
    I thought of that one first! See my post #21 on September 29th in which I wrote:
    “the great FSM is always generously giving his sons (and daughters) to multitudes of hungry people…..
    what do you think you do when you eat a plate of pasta? don’t you obliterate a great mass of those made in the image of the FSM just to satisfy your bodily hunger…
    therefore it is abundantly clear that the FSM is more than willing to give up his own sons…
    this act has saved not just one person, but hundreds of thousands of people from hunger… so it looks like the FSM goes one better than the stingy old christian god (who only sacrificed one son), dont it?”

    Anyway they say that “great minds think alike”!
    and I guess you win the prize for conciseness!

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  36. 86 - tris - Oct 2nd, 2008

    in continuation of my considerations on the nature of Christian psychology (posts #51 and 64)
    As I have mentioned in my reply to a new piece of Christian criticism on this site (entitled “Hello, I am a Christian”, it’s a “new” post but it’s predictably monotonous… can’t they think of something really “new” to say after 2000 years of barking up the same trees??)
    I’m starting to realise that ugly grammar (such as endless strings of subordinate and relative clauses), terrible spelling, obsessive CAPITALIZATION, non-sequiturs and clumsy, confused or ambiguous expression of over-complicated and undigested ideas is rather typical of religious “believers”!
    I suggest that fanatical Christians (and other religious freaks) read some real literature, instead of the bible, which is one of the worst written books in world literature.
    Let’s face it, if they only read that book all the time it’s no wonder most of them sound illiterate and are unable to string 3 simple concepts together in a comprehensible way…
    I suggest they start with something simple and fun like “James and the Giant Peach” or “Harry Potter” and move on to Richard Dawkins (his ideas will probably open their eyes and minds a little bit too!)

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  37. 87 - tris - Oct 2nd, 2008

    After all it (the bible) must be the only book in which the same story (not a very interesting one… and certainly not an amusing one, unless you find the killing of an innocent, albeit maybe rather misled, man somehow entertaining or inspiring!) is told 4 times by 4 different writers who can’t even agree on the details of their sad tale.

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  38. 88 - Jess - Oct 2nd, 2008

    “Before you ask, yes, I am Christian and believed Jesus died on the cross for all of us because he loved us that much.” So you ‘believed’ Jesus died for you, interesting. Are you saying you no longer believe he died for you? If so congratulations. You may be a tad slow but at least you eventually reached a valid conclusion. I only hope that you are now touched by His Noodly Appandage.
    RAmen

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  39. 89 - ForestsRequiem - Oct 3rd, 2008

    Christianity is a stupid radical cult that has somehow turned into some kind of religion. People ranted at us and it didn’t help

    Before you ask, yes, I am Pastafarian and I do not believe ‘Jesus’ person died on the cross for all of us because he loved us that much.

    If I may ask, though, would this ‘God’ guy be willing give up his own son (if he even has one) for a multitude of people who hate him, despise him, and aim to obliterate his very existance? Even if this act only saved one person? fix’d

    And the moral of this story is that Christianity was the most successful cult ever…

    RAmen

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  40. 90 - Wdabrock - Oct 3rd, 2008

    “Meme”? You mean that you read “The Lucifer Principle”?
    Then, how can you not believe in the FSM? Understand that religious ideas are spread by the true believers(read,zealots!), not by the theologists; who,by and large only study the aesthetics of the religion. They don’t try to prove it’s existance. Its the nut cases that run around saying that they see Jesus in slices of toast, windows, and tree bark. Why should christians be the only ones to see a visage of their god everywhere? I see the FSM all around me. HEY… that cloud looks like him, so does a mass of maggots, so does that clump of grass, but a plate of pasta is more appealing. So, you just go ahead and pray to your cross and look forward to your afterlife of musical angels and streets of gold. I’m going for the strippers and beer volcanoes!
    RAmen!!!!!!!

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  41. 91 - Guy - Oct 3rd, 2008

    “would the FSM willing give up his own son for a multitude of people who hate him”

    BLASPHEMY!
    HE GIVES UP HIS SONS TO PEOPLE WHO HATE HIM EVERY DAY!

    HOW MANY PASTAS HAVE BEEN LOST BECAUSE OF RESTAURANTS!?

    HOW MANY MACARONI DRAWINGS HAVE BEEN LOST TO KINDER GARDENS!?

    HOW MANY MEAT BALLS HAVE BEEN LOST BECAUSE OF YOU!?

    you all eat his children and he still loves you all…

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  42. 92 - Sean - Oct 3rd, 2008

    Actually yeah, as a pastafarian the FSM sacrificed a son of his noodely appendage to fill my belly and further save my life. FSM bless America.

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  43. 93 - ButlerianJihad - Oct 4th, 2008

    Christianity was converted into a tool for conquest and populous control by the Roman Emperor Constantine the Great.

    History is jawsome

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  44. 94 - Wench Renee - Oct 4th, 2008

    Crystos~
    I’m just wondering exactly why Jesus had to die for our sins anyway? Does that even make sense?! Isn’t God all powerful? Why wouldn’t he just create a world loudspeaker, and say “Hey – so, your sins? Forgiven. All you have to do is ask for forgiveness.” But instead, he sends a son to die for us? Because he loves us?

    I’m confused. It just doesn’t make sense. Besides, His Nodliness sends meatballs all the time. But they’re not for your sins. They’re for your tummy.

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  45. 95 - tris - Oct 4th, 2008

    Hello TheFewTheProudTheMarinara Post#84 -
    I found your comments on sacrifice very amusing…
    Yes the Christians are SO B.C.!
    Your post reminded me of why I like Pastafarianism and dislike fanaticism:
    It’s because, whereas the Christians who contribute to this site REALLY DO believe the weird ideas they profess, the Spaghetti Monsterists (or Pastafarians) PRETEND to believe… for satirical, ironic and humoristic purposes.
    This is a fundamental distinction… In fact the reason the Pastafarians write crazy fanatical things is because they are PRETENDING to be fanatics. They are inventing the tenets and belief system of this religion as they go along (in a creative way) and in the process they often produce a parody of Christian dialectics and its archaic forms of expression, and the results are often extremely funny (at least I think so!)… In fact they are SUPPOSED (intended) to be funny, while the things the Christians write are usually supposed (intended) to be serious, but actually they are often UNINTENTIONALLY funny!
    This is also due to the fact – which I commented on in a reply to “Hello, I am a Christian” post 144 – October 2nd – that ugly grammar (such as endless strings of subordinate and relative clauses), terrible spelling, obsessive CAPITALIZATION, non-sequiturs and clumsy, confused or ambiguous expression of over-complicated and undigested ideas is all typical of religious “believers”!
    So we can see that Pastafarianism comes from a completely different direction from Christianity because Pastafarians do not really believe their “faith”! When they seem to be attacking Christianity and other “faiths”, they are really defending the right of all people to believe whatever they want (and for scientists to continue their work without being harassed or hindered by Pre-Medieval and “B.C.” ideas, which are all very interesting in their own way, but should in no way be considered as a substitute for science).
    As well as this distinction between Christianity and Pastafarianism there is an even more fundamental distinction between Christianity and science. The first is based on a set of ancient texts, traditions and mostly obsolete belief systems, which have continued in a modified or deformed way until the present day, while the second is based on rational observation and logical analysis of our observable world.
    It is certainly possible that there is an UNobservable world, which in some way “created” or “formed” or “maintains” our observable world and “everyday reality”. In fact I find some Christian ideas fascinating from an anthropological and historical point of view (the wonderful weirdness of human cultural manifestations never ceases to amaze me!). But what Pastafarianism rightly points out is that there is no PROOF (in the scientific sense) that our world was created by the Christian God and that we should believe in the Christian set of ideas (some of which are in direct contradiction to logic and rationality) rather than any other ancient idea, or for that matter a new idea such as Pastafarianism. Just because in the west our relatively recent ancestors (centuries after the fall of the Roman Empire) believed in that stuff (often because it was imposed on their own ancestors by force and violence) doesn’t mean that we should too. Nor does it mean we should try to impose such beliefs on others. That is just a form of cultural colonialism and arrogance.
    Trying to replace the more typically modern scientific and rational forms of thought with such ancient non-scientific belief systems and superstitions is even more arrogant and dangerous… and could lead the world into another “dark age” of ignorance, intolerance and conflict.
    If we really want to progress as a species perhaps it is time to look at some of our belief systems in a more critical way, also by putting them in a historical and cultural context. The recent attempts of Christians to “save” or “modernise” their flagging religion by making it sound scientific and hyping it as a viable alternative to scientific research, or even as a substitute for rational scientific thought, is in fact a direct threat to hundreds of years of human progress, which basically started in the Renaissance.
    Christianity is more of a consolation than science for those people who are unable to understand the true depths of scientific wisdom… it in fact requires many years of study to appreciate it, as well as a relatively high IQ… but it cannot and must not REPLACE science! Religion is belief… science is knowledge!
    After all if the west still believed exclusively in Christianity we would probably still be subject to periodic plague epidemics and would be persecuting or burning homosexuals and handicapped people and everyone with original ideas… in fact many Christians are still trying to persecute those with original ideas, such as the inventors of this site (the persecution of original ideas has been a constant feature of Christianity ever since its institutionalisation under the Emperor Constantine)
    Pastafarianism is trying to make the light of tolerance and logic shine out. Pastafarians are in fact the torchbearers of a sort of relativistic truth, which is that all weird ideas (including Christianity!) are worthy of respect and toleration AS LONG AS THEY DON’T TRY TO REPLACE OR OPPRESS OTHER IDEAS. The fact that Pastafarianism is able to do this in a funny and ironic way means that they can criticise without entering into direct conflict. (I consider this the true stroke of genius of Mr Henderson… he has brought us salvation through laughter!).
    I will write more on the theme of humorism and its possible epistemological implications, in the section of this site called “Comment on the Open Letter”!
    I’ll just say 2 things here on the theme of humourism … I think it’s what keeps us sane… haven’t you noticed how seriously the fanatics take themselves? (and we all know how close fanaticism is to insanity!) I don’t think scientists consider their theories as being sacred articles of faith… and so they can joke about science. Not all scientists have a good sense of humour… but those that do are often hilarious!
    Science is actually based on self criticism (which is close to humorism) as well as the attempt to DISprove itself… if a theory is disprovable or non-provable then it is wrong. If religion were based on the same rigorous criteria there probably wouldnt be any religion!
    In conclusion, I’d just like to say that sometimes we just need to laugh at the fanatics. Let’s stop being so serious and politically correct when it comes to religion… everyone has a right to believe whatever they want… but I don’t think they have a right to force others to believe… if our respect for people’s beliefs means that we become afraid of the fanatics and fundamentalists and let their beliefs penetrate into areas where they don’t belong (such as science and medicine) we might end up like the Taliban, letting women die because doctors must not look at their bodies, or growing long stinky beards and putting smelly sacks over women’s faces because god or allah “tells us to do it” and blowing up beautiful statutes of Buddha because they belong to another religious tradition… is that what we want for us and our children??

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  46. 96 - tris - Oct 4th, 2008

    Oh by the way…
    My apologies to those of u have perhaps already read the version of this post on Pastafarianism and fanaticism I’ve sent in to the section of this site called “Comment on the Open Letter” (post #2469 – October 4th) addressed to Kaiser Bill and followed by another long exposition of my ideas on belief! I decided to send it twice ‘cos some of my messages aren’t getting posted… I don’t know why (don’t call me paranoid… I’m quite sure big Brother Bob isn’t censoring me!) presumably my internet connection is slightly fucked up… anyway, as I said in post #2450 of “Comment on the Open Letter” as the Romans used to say: “repetita iuvant”!
    Which reminds me, it’s time I repeated my Spaghetti Monster prayer, with a little modification (also to thank him for giving me the chance to spread the light of reason and rationality to humankind through his lovely site!):

    Our monster so great, such art in the plate
    Hallowed be thy scrummy yummy juicy sauces
    Thy kingdom come, some day, but not too late:
    Before we move onto our second courses!
    Give us this day our daily pasta
    And forgive us if we sometimes overcook it
    As we forgive them who eat it much faster
    (The important thing is not to overlook it!)
    And lead us not into false consummation
    Of dire dodgy dishes: nasty noodles or Ramen
    For thine is the source of the saucy sensation
    Forever and ever Spaghetti Monster amen!

    long live Pastafarianism! I love it!

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  47. 97 - Ubi Dubium - Oct 5th, 2008

    @Tris: Come join us in the Pastafarian Forums!

    Our Pasta, who “Arghh” in heaven,
    Swallowed be thy name.
    Thy Midgit come. Thy Sauce be yum,
    On top some grated Parmesan.
    Give us this day our garlic bread.
    And give us our cutlasses,
    As we swashbuckle, splice the main-brace and cuss.
    And lead us not into vegetarianism,
    But deliver us some Pizza.
    For thine are Meatballs, and the beer, and the strippers, for ever and ever.
    RAmen.

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  48. 98 - tris - Oct 6th, 2008

    @Ubi Dubium 97
    Yeah! That’s for the invite! I checked it out yesterday!
    But I find it easier to have access to the “outsider” part of the site.
    BTW… I like your prayer, even tho’ it doesnt rhyme (with itself!) but are Pastafarians anti-vegetable and anti-vegetarianism? I can’t quite stomach that!

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  49. 99 - Wench Nikkiee - Oct 6th, 2008

    #58 Barron_Von_Hugen_Dong
    You got that arse about face.
    Christianity is a mockery to FSM and all other religions. Christianity is a troll religion.
    You got a list of hate mail, penned in the name of Pastafaria and posted on churchy sites?

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  50. 100 - rada! - Oct 7th, 2008

    “This is a stupid Internet Meme that has somehow turned into some kind of religion. Ranting at them is not going to help.

    Before you ask, yes, I am Christian and believed Jesus died on the cross for all of us because he loved us that much.

    If I may ask, though, would the FSM willing give up his own son (if he even has one) for a multitude of people who hate him, despise him, aim to obliterate his very existence? Even if this act only saved one person?

    -Crystos”
    First off. Jesus didnt die for shit. He didnt exist. Period. Second the FSM is ballin egnough to where he wouldnt have to send his son to die for us like your pathetic excuse of a made up religion and “god” did.

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An elaborate spoof on Intelligent Design, The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is neither too elaborate nor too spoofy to succeed in nailing the fallacies of ID. It's even wackier than Jonathan Swift's suggestion that the Irish eat their children as a way to keep them from being a burden, and it may offend just as many people, but Henderson, described elsewhere as a 25-year-old "out-of-work physics major," puts satire to the same serious use that Swift did. Oh, yes, it is very funny. -- Scientific American




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