where did the first big rock come from and what hit it?

Not a hate-mail, but I don’t have a category for this sort:

I am not a scientist but I am a teacher (not in florida). I am a Christian and personally believe in intelligent design. However, I do not believe it is my place to force Christianity into the classroom either. I will live my life as a Christian and feel free to share my faith when necessary and unforcefully. Anyway, I don’t think anyone will get anywhere in this argument. First, even if there was a “Big Bang” where did the first big rock come from and what hit it? Even science can’t explain something coming from nothing. On the flip-side even Christians can’t explain when or how God began. All I know is that science can only explain so much and so does the bible. So, it’s faith in either God or Science. Faith that God did it or that science will discover it. I personally believe that science studies God’s creation including scientific laws. I also believe that there are some things in the Holy Bible that will better understood in the end. Even the gospels told of secrets that were not shared with the masses. Also, who can argue that evolution exists? That’s fact!!! The argument is creation v. just happening.
-tgilmer

162 Responses to “where did the first big rock come from and what hit it?”

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  1. 151 - Ande - Nov 17th, 2008

    @150 pasta lover
    sure there was bathrooms back then,but it was pretty much only the ones who wrote the bible that had access to them

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  2. 152 - KatieBug - Nov 17th, 2008

    I don’t have a deep knowledge of the Big Bang Theory, but I was always under the impression that it happened because of an energy buildup and not two rocks hitting each other…

    Maybe I’m wrong?

    Like I said, I don’t know much about it.

    But thank you for the coherent and respectful message. We all appreciate it :]

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  3. 153 - Jack - Nov 17th, 2008

    He is a good guy, who stated his opinion in a calm manner, and didn’t swear once. This is quite nice actually.

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  4. 154 - Daniel - Nov 17th, 2008

    Instead of religion and science being mutually exclusive, why can’t I believe in a God that used an accelerated form of evolution to create the animal species we know today? Maybe, to create the universe, including earth, He used some sort of cosmic explosion. Just thoughts.

    Agape Love,

    Daniel

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  5. 155 - Christian - Nov 18th, 2008

    Good letter my friend, good letter indeed. Evolution does exist, i agree with you on that and don’t think anyone in their right mind can argue otherwise. However, the main difference between creationists and evolutionists is to what EXTENT evolution took place. For example, its been proven that when two creatures mate they both give away about half of their genetic material. And if the child loses some of the DNA in the process (e.g. mom has 123 dad has 124 baby has 134 and hence loses dna 2) then strange things can be born due to this loss of genetic information(called specialization of genes). Evolutionists argue that a creature bred out far enough could just keep changing until they macro-evolve(gains DNA). However if a species continues to breed out it will eventually be weaker and have a worse immune system then a creature with a lot of DNA. Since animals can only gain new DNA(necessary for things such a fish growing feet/proto feet) through random mutation(beneficial mutations are 1 in 1000 or more) its highly unlikely evolution happened as evolutions say it did. Its possible that a wolf is the ancestor of the dog, just as the dog is the ancestor of the poodle. However its near impossible that a species could experience all the required beneficial mutations to acquire such a huge change as a fish to a frog or a monkey to a man. So you see, God created everything as is, and small changes helped the creatures adapt. And its because they have that mild adapting ability that Creation is so perfect. However, to assume that evolution is the cause of Creation instead of a feature of Creation is both blasphemous and unscientific.
    Also, i think Christians should spread the faith and knowledge we have because it not only allows people salvation, but also make them smarter. God is the Creator, He has made Creation 6000 years ago and micro evolution cannot cause macro evolution. Amen.

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  6. 156 - Jared McClure - Nov 18th, 2008

    Who says there was a Big Bang? The Universe is eternal and simply has always existed.

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  7. 157 - sigh - Nov 19th, 2008

    First: thank you very much, this is the only non-hate mail I’ve seen on this site.

    Second: Science admits when an idea is theory or proven fact, and in the case of theories criticism and questioning are good things. However, when the theory of religion appears, criticism and questioning are unheard of.

    Third: If you could prove the “Lord” to me I pray every night for his forgiveness. But I wouldn’t get it because be saying two words “prove it” my “soul” is “damned for all eternity to flaming pits of hell”

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  8. 158 - Dentrag - Jan 20th, 2009

    I have three answers to your quandry, Tgilmer.
    1; Possibly, it is impossible to know. Nothing could have EVER been recorded BEFORE there was anything.
    2; Energy converted to matter. It should be possible.
    3; The universe is infinite, and has no start or end.
    4; A giant, invisible space, omnipotent and omniscient being decided that it was worthwhile to spend the 16 billion years required to shape the universe so that ONE SPECIES, and YOU ALONE were important enough for this omnipotent’s beings time. Of course, this leads to the question; Whence did this noodly being come from? Why, from the great space-sailing pirate ship of course!

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  9. 159 - a880 - Feb 8th, 2009

    You believe in intelligent design?

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  10. 160 - necro - Sep 9th, 2009

    I’m not sure there was a “big rock” that caused the big bang, more energy, but the simple answer is this:
    His divine Noodlelyness The Flying Spaghetti Monster decided to create a “big rock”. That or he has falsely implanted that information in order to hide his own awesomeness in creating all.

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  11. 161 - St. pastabeard - Sep 9th, 2009

    A. creation IS just happening
    B. It wasn’t a big rock.

    Thank you and have a nice day.

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  12. 162 - Swiftovski - Sep 9th, 2009

    @ Christian #155

    The concept of blasphemy is not one that occurs to many atheists I would have thought. You talk about Intelligent Design as if it is a fact, which is one of the fatal flaws in Christian argument. Too many of you presume to know things for certain. Science is about theories with evidence behind them, of which Evolution is one. It would be foolish to presume that evolution as we know it is a certain thing that actually happened, rather we see it as a very, very likely way in which the biodiversity of this planet has become so rich. This still does not make it 100% certain. The ‘huge change’ which you say must have taken place between apes and humans is not as huge as you think. We are remarkably similar in alot of ways. What you have to remember is that this process of mutations and natural selection has been going on for billions and billions of years. Plenty of time for these changes to take place when you think about it. Humans just can’t grasp the concept of such a huge timescale, and so they assume these changes are impossible. Intelligent design is a parasite that feeds off true science. It makes me sad to think that potentially every major scientific discovery to do with creation and life just gets sucked up, processed and churned out again by religions to try and make their fairy tales more realistic. And also, your claim that introducing Christianity to people makes them smarter is really quite short-sighted. All it does is teach them to shrug their shoulders and ignore reason.

    May his Noodliness touch you with his almighty appendage.
    rAmen.

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