1. Do you know any building that did not have a builder? Yes? No?
2. Do you know any painting that did not have a painter? Yes? No?
3. Do you know any car that did not have a maker? Yes? No?
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An elaborate spoof on Intelligent Design, The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is neither too elaborate nor too spoofy to succeed in nailing the fallacies of ID. It's even wackier than Jonathan Swift's suggestion that the Irish eat their children as a way to keep them from being a burden, and it may offend just as many people, but Henderson, described elsewhere as a 25-year-old "out-of-work physics major," puts satire to the same serious use that Swift did. Oh, yes, it is very funny. -- Scientific American
1. Do you know any building that did not have a builder? No
2. Do you know any painting that did not have a painter? No
3. Do you know any car that did not have a maker? No?
You forgot:
4. Do you expect us to take this seriously? Yes? No?
If you answered yes, you missed the point.
RAmen.
Actually, my car did not have a maker. Try to figure that one out!
RAmen
Have you ever met a creationist with an original argument? Yes? No?
1. Do you know any building that did not have a builder? Yes.
Building (Wiktionary): A closed structure with walls and a roof.
At the bottom of a canyon, the high granite cliffs are the walls and the sky above forms a roof … give me evidence that this canyon was created by a divine being some 5800 years ago and I too will become a creationist.
3. Do you know any car that did not have a maker? Yes.
It all depends on how you define a car, but if you define it as a mode of transportation requiring no physical work done on the part of the transported, you could call a river a car for the many people who used them before steel automobiles powered by internal combustion were invented.
2 (I saved this for last). Do you know any painting that did not have a painter? Yes.
Say you have a piece of paper and a can of paint next to it. A sharp, quick increase in energy (due to some random cause, like an earthquake) can cause the pain to spill. Now, this will cause no pattern you recognize, but we humans may be unrecognizable patterns to some other form of life in the galaxy.
Of course, Henderob, we all believe that the world had a maker, it’s obvious, and furthermore, it’s obvious that the maker was His Great Noodliness, the Flying Spaghetti Monster! If you think your argument is truly convincing, you have to look at all of our evidence for the FSM. His Noodles are at work all the time! Sure, it was my religious experience over a plate of spaghetti that began my faith, and irreducible complexity and the watchmaker argument that started my reasoning for the FSM, but surely His proof is all around us!
The only difference is that we believe he was drunk while creating the world, which you probably don’t believe about your deity, but it’s a perfectly easy thing to see when we look at the chaos and hardship in the world, what with the asteroids, vast amount of unpopulable worlds, Brittney Spears, the appendix, etc. it obviously was created by a very intelligent, but not all-powerful or perfect being, just a Great Noodly wonder.
Also, our Heaven is better than yours, and our Hell more tolerant, so I think it’s obvious that our Noodly Master is the one you are looking for with your inquisitive line of questioning! Brothers, let us not turn away anyone seeking with questions of ignorance, let us turn them towards His Noodliness!
RAmen
Have you ever seen someone/something create an eye? Yes? No?
Have you ever seen someone/something create a dog? Yes No?
Do you even ever think for yourself? No?
Spread the word religion is a doomsday device :D
@ Basil Baxer:
Oooh. You “Ate” our god! Wow. And here I thought the fundie idiots did that weeks ago. No, months. No, years… come to think of it, it’s about the oldest, lamest attack on Pastafarianism ever.
Tell me. How does it feel to share something with the people you hate so much. You have descended to their level. You looked in the mirror and saw them in your place. Have a nice dinner.
Oh wait….I once made a painting! Therefor……logically……I AM GOD!
Do you know any painting that did not have a painter? Yes? No?
Yes. The Painted Dessert. No one said that it had to be painted on a canvas, did they?
Ummm
this has been published before. Marion Sudvarg, a brilliant response. And RedBearded Pirate, I totally agree but remember henderob is entitled to his opinion too.
We will never know who is in the right here, but I continue to maintain a firm belief in the FSM.
Peace Love and Pirates to all!
RAmen.
Your argument is flawed. By defining God as the creator, you suppose that the only way that something can come into being is that it was created, like a building or painting. But what created God? How can you argue that a building must have a builder, a painting must have a painter, therefore God created the earth and all life, but He has always been and nothing created Him?
I answered “no” to all of those Q’s. the FSM is the maker.
RAmen
Here’s one…
Have you heard of the watchmaker analogy? Yes? No?
I would guess no. You should look it up however, as it shows that your argument is not only wrong, but famous for being wrong.
1. Have you ever seen the blueprints for a tree?
2. have you ever seen the prelimary scketches of a sheep?
3. Have you ever seen the design specifications for carp?
If the answer to any of these is yes, please see your psychiatrist.
Oh I get it. Because man-made things are build by someone and do not spontaneously appear, then nature and evolution my natural selection must therefore also be designed. Quite brilliant non sequitur. If you could please show me how buildings etc replicate through sex thereby passing on their genes to the next generation.
Dear anonymous poster:
This is nonsense. If you have a point, please try to be clear about it. People making things out of other things (houses, paintings, cars) is not “creation” in the sense that I suspect you mean it, it is just rearranging things that already exist into new and more useful or pleasing shapes. You are most likely an idiot.
The aparment I rent did not have a builder. No one fitting that description would build walls that thin.
Paintings without a painter? Don’t get me started on modern “Art”.
And, my last car did not have a builder. It was a Ford. However, I switched to Japanese and have not had to think about the bits ever since.
@StJason
Dear StJason,
Basil Baxter Loves You.
It is quite impossible for Basil Baxter to descend to anyone’s level. As he noted on his Blog: (http://www.basilbaxter.com/) he is Sick, demented, he prowls the streets at night naked, wearing nothing but sunglasses and carrying only Polly, his trusty, rusty, chainsaw. He is quite obviously as low as one can get already. And he Loves You.
Basil Baxter strives towards killing anything that lives in inventive and interesting ways. As such, perhaps eating was not the most novel method to pick, Basil Baxter concedes. Thing is; he had all these mock pirates to push through the industrial pasta-machine, and felt like a snack.
But Basil Baxter would like to assure you that several other One True Friends before The One True Friend met a nasty fate, to quote:
“Given his dislike of false friends, the kind of friends people might hold over Basil Baxter as The One True Friend, it is also strongly hinted that he was not, as he himself claimed, “on his way to build a new shed” when Judeans saw him trudging around with timber and long nails near Golgotha hill.”
http://www.basilbaxter.com/28/how-basil-baxter-came-to-be-part-1/
And:
“Basil Baxter thought about this for some time. He thought about it for a very long time, as he stared out the window to the playground full of, for the day safe, potential victims. He was slacking off. Meanwhile in space a missile reached the end of an automated launch-cycle…”
http://www.basilbaxter.com/56/basil-baxter-slacks-off/
But if it makes you feel any better; Basil Baxter still owns the Pasta plant and would quite happily make you a new One True Friend, if only he could get the pirates to dough ratio right.
@Real
Valid points you brought up Real, but I must ask, what does that have to do with anything we are discussing?
Precisely. So who created the creator? We already know who built him, painted him and drove this
archaic point of view down our collective throats.