
Pirate Pete spotted this … It looks like there’s an FSM symbol on the “$cientology i$ a $cam” sign. I don’t know any details about the protest. Anyone know? More pictures can be found here.
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“I don’t have any respect for Scientology and think its a vile organisation BUT christianity and islam are a 1000 times worse. Scientology screws up 10’s maybe 100’s of lives these ‘main stream’ religions destroy millions.”
To Paraphrase:
“You guys are right to protest this, but I won’t because there are also other things that I believe are worth protesting.”
To which I must reply:
So, are you protesting those things? Or are you just throwing words around in a desperate attempt to keep others from making a difference where they see that they can and should?
People believe the organization of Scientology is bad. They believe it because they’ve read court documents, testimony from people who escaped the organization, and seen videos of members behaving badly. Now they’re doing something about it. All you’re doing with your “Yeah but”s is wasting good people’s time and energy. If you’ve read up on this subject, and I don’t think you have, you can decide whether it’s worth it to you to try and make a difference.
www.xenu.net
www.youfoundthecard.com
www.exscientologykids.com
www.enturbulation.org
Get involved if you think that this sort of thing has gone on long enough.
Cabin Boy, then you should be out protesting islam and christianity. When’s your next picket?
“I don’t get why people hate on Scientology…I mean, it is organized religion and that sucks but is it any suckier than other organized religions? Are they out somewhere hurting kittens or something?”
Funny you should say that. Did someone forget to mention the cat-killing?
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Religion is not the issue for the Scientology protests. Crime is. No religion should be allowed to force members to have abortions, or force children into labour, or deprive its staff of proper food and sleep, or harass its critics with the aim of driving them insane (google “operation freakout”), or the kidnapping (see Martine Boublil, January 2008)… Scientologists can believe what they want, but they must stop with the human rights abuses and the crimes.
The protest is not condemning them for their belief in space aliens. In fact, most scientologists don’t realize that their religion is about aliens. The protest is about the Church of Scientology’s multiple crimes, such as breaking into the IRS and stealing documents, or the fact that they’ve gotten a tax exempt status, the fact that they collect vast amount of money from their followers in audits. It’s a gigantic scam pretending to be a religion.
The protests aren’t specifically against the beleifs of the “Church of Scientology”, but rather it’s inhumane and criminal practices. It fits the definition of cult to a tee, and there’s loads of evidence online for anyone who feels the need to look it up. They’re only even considered a religion because they cut a deal with the IRS, and were granted tax exemptions in the US unique to them. No other religion in the US gets as good a deal with the IRS as Scientology.
I urge anyone and everyone reading this not to take my word for it, but to look into for yourself. The resources available on the web are near endless. Xenu.net is a good place to start.
Hello Pastafarians!
I am anonymous. I have always admired your movement, and I see the truth in His Noodly Appendage.
Please join us and help rid the world of this noxious cult. Our interests coincide. One can believe in flying constructions of semolina and water (and sometimes egg) and one can believe in bad science fiction if one wants.
However the criminal organization of this cult can and does hurt a lot of very nice people. At the very least make sure your friends, family, and neighbors are aware of the danger. Knowledge is the inoculation that will prevent the spread of this disease. Anonymous is the broad-spectrum antibiotic for the festering kernel of infection.
Hope I didn’t put you off your lasagne with that last. I just adore melodramatic analogies.
We are Anonymous
We are Legion
We do not forgive
We do not forget
Expect us
http://www.enturbulation.org
Christianity and Islam may screw up more lives, but it’s only because they’re bigger. Lots of people survive being Christian or Muslim without screwing up their lives.
Scientology is insidious. It screws up the lives of each and every person who joins the organization, no exception.
I’d also like to mention that this is not a freedom of belief issue. Nobody is campaigning against Freezone, which is a form of Scientology practiced outside the Church of Scientology. They are going up against the CoS which is a criminal organization.
Anon isn’t protesting the religious beliefs of scientology, but instead the criminal acts of the org.
Calling Anonymous religious bigots is the same as calling parents who scream at the Catholic church for molesting their children religious bigots. The crimes of the Church of Scientology are worse. One one of my videos on YouTube, some pastafarians said they’d show up for our protest.
If you want to know their crimes, download our info packet here: http://rapidshare.com/files/103822534/Info_Packet_GOLD.zip.html
there are still some typos we’re working on a final.
Just thought I’d chime in here and reiterate what others have said: Anonymous does not condemn the religious practices of Scientology in any way. If they want to believe that their bodies are infested by retard-spirits trapped here on Earth ten gajillion years ago by Lord Xenu and practice their self help techniques in an effort to gain superpowers, I’m all for it. In fact, Anonymous fully supports the Free Zone and its efforts to practice the beliefs of Scientology divorced from the corrupt and criminal institution that is the Church of Scientology. It’s when things get violent and criminal that there’s a problem.
Again, we condemn the actions taken by the CoS, NOT their beliefs. You can have your Bible (as it were), or you can have your gun, but the moment you pick up a gun, you no longer get to carry your Bible. Pick one.
Cabin Boy Jon,
Would you accept this statement?
‘Murdering people is okay because everybody will die some day. Murder just hurries the process a little, especially when considered against the times scale of geological history. What difference is a lifetime of 25 years and 100 years? And when considered against the deaths that occurred during the black plague, WW1,WW2, Korean War, Vietnam War, Iraq War 1 and 2, and the daily murder that occur around the world every day, murdering a few people isn’t all that many or so bad. If you considered the history of humankind, from the bronze age, to the Romans to the French revolution, the lost of a few lives isn’t even a tragedy. Most lives are insignificant and aren’t even worth being written in the history books
So murdering people is okay. The police are wasting their time catching murders. Don’t get so hot under the collar about serial killer staking your neighbourhood. Spend you time more productively, okay.”
Would you accept this statement? Is murder okay? Why not? I won’t give you the answer. But Cabin Boy Jon if you can answer this question, you can answer why people are trying to oppose the Church of Scientology.
@Cabin Boy Jon
While the kill count of Christianity and Islam is far higher than Scientology’s, it is spread over a long period of time and it is by no means a uniformed belief: the Church of Scientology’s crimes can be traced back to the policies of its central management. Through its indoctrination, organization and tight control over its parishioners, the upper echelons abuse the admittedly kooky pseudo-religious self-help books of a severely disturbed sci-fi hack to silence their critics, isolate their members and slowly drain them of all the cash they’re worth. We do not target the victims of this cult, nor do we target the beliefs to which they are entitled. We only have beef with the corrupt “church” that governs this whole scheme. I invite you to judge for yourself if we’re beacons of reason, rationality and nicety: www.enturbulation.org
They aren’t protesting the religious beliefs of the church, though some at the protests may make allusions to some of the more unconventional beliefs of the church. They are protesting the Corporation of Scientology which abuses it’s followers by taking their money and splitting families apart and denying people needed medical care.
Various people from the protests have been in contact with Freezone scientologists, these are practitioners of the beliefs of scientolgoy who do so outside of the corporate structure of the church. the protesters are encouraging people to get away from the corporation of Scientology not change their faith.
Cabin Boy Jon–give me the following:
20 first-hand accounts of abuse by the Catholic Church that they DENY ever happened (either by parishioners acting on their own, but by people acting on order of the church)
at least 2 instances of the Catholic Church performing severely illegal acts (espionage, organized harassment)
50 first-hand accounts of critics of the Catholic Church being harassed by the Church (not by members acting on their own, but by members acting on orders of the Church)
500 instances of salvation/religious texts being denied to someone because they can’t afford to pay for it
20 first-hand accounts of people going to the authorities (police, FBI, etc) for and being denied help/having nothing happen.
10 people who indirectly or directly died through a command of the Catholic Church;
if the church says “don’t use meds” and someone dies because of it, that counts;
if the church says “prayer helps people” and someone doesn’t get medical treatment because their parents prayed INSTEAD OF (as opposed to “in addition to”), that doesn’t count
If you can’t come up with the following, then stop bitching about the other religions. If I want to say “The Catholic Church brainwashes its children” or “Catholic priests needs to stop molesting little boys” or “Fundamentalist Christians are morons”, I have the right to say it, and I would not be afraid of having the Church itself come over to my house and harass me.
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Blahblahblah, tl;dr:
The Church of Scientology commits actual crimes, and threatens and harasses its critics. This is illegal, and we are demanding that they be held accountable for it.
When the whole priest sex scandal thing happened, there were people demanding the Catholic Church be held accountable as well. HEY GUESS WHAT. THEY WERE HELD ACCOUNTABLE AS WELL. If they reacted as the Church of Scientology reacted (by calling its accusers terrorists, suing them, harassing them, and denying all the allegations while CONTINUING TO COMMIT THE CRIMES), you can damn well bet that there’d be some group out there protesting them.
(From Wikipedia:)
“Serious lawsuits emerged in 2001 claiming that deviant priests had sexually abused minors.[232] As of 2008, the vast majority of worldwide sex abuse cases have been in the United States[233] where 4 percent of all priests who served there from 1950 to 2002 faced accusations[234], though the Church estimated that the global figure was probably no more than 1 per cent.[233]
Some priests resigned, others were defrocked and jailed[235] and financial settlements were agreed with many victims.[232] The church was widely criticized when it was discovered that some bishops knew about allegations of misconduct and then reassigned accused priests instead of removing them from ministry.[232][236] Some bishops and psychiatrists noted that the prevailing psychology of the times suggested that people could be cured of such behavior with counseling.[236][237][238] Many of the abusive priests had received counseling before being reassigned.[234][239]
Pope John Paul II responded by stating there is no place in the priesthood or religious life for those who abuse children.[240]
The church instituted reforms to prevent future abuse including requiring fingerprinting and background checks for church employees and, because a significant majority of victims were teenage boys, disallowing ordination of men with deeply seated homosexual tendencies.[118][237]
These reforms also set up a clear code of conduct for all dioceses to follow when faced with an allegation including alerting the authorities, conducting an investigation and removing the accused priest or employee from duty.[241][242]”
To be fair pastafarianism was established as a innocent way to poke fun at those silly creationists and their attempt to teach their religion as science. Anonymous has a good time poking fun at the ridiculous teachings of scientology and the more devious practices of their cult. I’m pretty sure the corporation that runs the CoS is in direct violation of alot of the “I really wish you wouldnts” Yes yes, they started off with some DDOSs and those are less than legal but thats no longer the chosen method of the current incarnation of Anonymous. They’ve come a long way from their “HACKERS ON STEROIDS! Chan roots. Just as many of us worship his noodly goodness do we also feel it necessary to strike back at a cult that abuses its parishoner’s human rights. It may not be part of the main stay of the Pastafarian way but i’d think you should be proud to see the good word being spread, albeit subtly. RAmen
I’m surprised that so many here are unaware of the recent Scientology protests or believe that the protests are led by religious fanatics.
Scientology is protested because they suppress freedom of speech. They are extremely secretive about their activities, even to their own members. A member must pay thousands of dollars to even find out what the religion is really about. Imagine going into any other church and them forcing you to pay to find out about their god or beliefs.
Scientology’s censorship is what originally sparked the protest.
Anonymous - the organization beyond the recent protests - is not a group of religious fanatics trying to promote a particular religion. Anonymous is everyone. Anonymous are people spread throughout the world, people of every religion and ethnicity, united to fight against Scientology. Many people have died as a result of this horrendous cult. Critics have been harassed mercilessly by this cult.
There is so much information about this cult out there. I have a few links, and google is your friend:
http://theunfunnytruth.ytmnd.com/ - a good, brief summary of some of Scientology’s many crimes.
http://www.xenu.net/ - I could spend hours browsing through the information here.
http://www.enturbulation.org/ - Hosts activation forums. Has links to more content.
[Knowledge is free — Scientology is not]
Btw, as an afterthought, FSM owns. ;D Flying Spaghetti Monster >>>> Xenu.
Srsly, you guys preaching love and acceptance” need to do your homework. Anonymous IS NOT PROTESTING THE RELIGION. They are protesting the PRACTICES of the religion, such as employing child labor, filing frivolous lawsuits against any critics, stalking, draining hundreds of thousands of dollars from parishioners, forced abortions for female followers, etc. They are a CRIMINAL ORGANIZATION. Anon does not have any problem with people believing what they want…in fact, they’re in full support of Freezoners, a splinter group of Scientologists who do not charge thousands of dollars to become members of the church.
Anon is protesting the tax-free status of this cult which masquerades as a non-profit religion, yet rakes in millions from gullible followers. They are breaking the law in that respect and costing ordinary taxpayers lots of money. Thats just to name ONE of their many transgressions.
People can believe what they want, no matter how strange. But they cannot get away with DOING whatever they want if it breaks the law, endangers minors, costs taxpayers money and denies civil rights to members through force and intimidation. Go to xenu.net to read more.
Also check out www.whyaretheydead.net to see the hundreds of people who have died while in the care of Scientologists due to being denied medication, psychological help or even basic needs like food and water.
@Cabin Boy Jon
When was the last time that christianity
- inflitrated the IRS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Snow_White)
- hired private investigators to harrass you at your home and then sued you(http://glosslip.com/2008/03/27/member-of-anonymous-in-boston-being-fair-gamed-by-scientology/)
-held you hostage at your own home without food and medication until you died? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_McPherson)
or numerous other violations against any possible human rights you could think of.
Not in a few hundred years i believe.
Scientology, however, keeps doing these things day after day without anyone daring to stop them. Well its about time now. The crimes of Church of Scientology are something that you can stop right now, right here.
Google ‘Operation Snow White’
Google ‘Lisa McPherson’
Google ‘Operation Freakout’
Google ‘Fair Game’
Google ‘Scientology Disconnection’
Google ‘BBC Scientology and Me’
Google ‘XenuTV’
Google ‘Rehabilitation Project Force’
Google ‘Introspection Rundown’
Find out the truth.
Does this sound like a religion to you?