You guys are infinitely more intelligent and all-knowing than God. So I guess I don’t need to tell you that materialism and Marxism/communism go hand in hand.And since you got this all figured out I wont bother to tell you that the adherents of materialism Lenin, Stalin, Mao and the Cama Rouge have killed more than 150 million people.
I don’t need to tell you that your intelligent philosophy led China to the world’s most devastating famine ever recorded. There is no need to inform you of the heartless Cama Rouge (materialists who though people were no more than animals) who annihilated scores and scored of Cambodians by choking them to death with plastic bags, because bullets were to precious.
I’m sure you are aware that although materialist seeks to eliminate God the adverse effect becomes the materialist philosophers being worshipped by their followers.
Think this is a stupid remark? Well look at Mao, the Chinese worshipped him as a “super human”. Lenin was revered as such a great fella we can still see his preserved body on display in Russia.
You doubtless know that your philosophy led Stalin to install a very intelligent Materialist Scientist as the head of the Russian Ag. Committee.
This intelligent man postulated that crop production could be increased if the fundamental concepts of evolution were employed in farming techniques.
He postulated this: Russias severe cold hinders crop production. However if there were a way to produce a hearty breed of wheat adapted to the Russian climate crop production could be increased.
He concluded that if a seed of wheat were immersed in cold water for duration of time it would “evolve” and adapt to cold temps. After the seeds cold water bath it could then be planted and would yield in abundance.
You doubtless know when Stalin implemented this new farming technique it miserably failed and a famine ensued.
I’m sure you know that you’re intelligent philosophy lead Mao Zedong to destroy families throughout China. I’m sure you know that he convinced children to reject the idea of a “family unit” and to cling to communism as a parental figure.
I’m sure that you know China will kill anyone whose ideals deviating outside its materialistic principals. I’m sure you know China destroys free thinking people like all ya’ll kids. I’m sure you know that those who lived in China during Mao’s reign, or in Russia during Stalin’s or Lenin’s reign were tossed into death camps or shot in the head for not supporting their regime and its tyrannical principals.
I guess you know that your wonderful philosophy if carried out would enslave mankind and turn them into animals. But maybe you don’t mind eating human flesh during a mass famine because your materialistic leader has devastated your economy in order to reform his countries citizens.
Perhaps you don’t mind losing your children, mother and father to assassination. Maybe you don’t mind everything you own being confiscated by the Govt and then being forced to work on a farm or infrastructure project till you die a miserable death.
Although some of your science may be right the application of your philosophy (if carried out on a global level) would destroy mankind.
Yup, you guys got it figured out.
Im gonna go eat spaghetti and thank God for the wheat and tomatoes He created to make such a delicous dish…. I guess that makes the spaghettis monster a “demi-god” cuz he came from wheat and tomatoes. Plus he had to be processed in a chef boyarde factory.
Hmm… So because he is proceesed does that make the factory that made him a superior being? Perhaps because the workers in the factory ran the spaghetti making eqpt to procees him then he is actually even inferior to mankind. I guess it follows your worshipping something inferior to yourself.
What if youy eat the spaghetti monster… Do you worship him after he has been passed into the bowl?I guess it follows you would be worshipping your own night soil?
Yeah you guys got it figured out… You worship your own excrement…
-Johnathon
I think the single funniest thing about this letter is that the guy can’t even spell his own name. Either that or his parents couldn’t and just taught him the wrong spelling.
And your assumption that materialism and Communism go hand in hand is amusing. Does it really? So if you don’t worship God you’re a communist? This is one of the most laughable ad absurdum arguments I’ve ever heard.
Obviously, the being of pirates and worshipping of a carbohydrate deity means we are murderous, hate-filled bastards with no emotions, no conscience, nothing.
Thanks for reminding us!
Ugh. Don’t even start about violence caused by disbelief in god.
Violence by belief in god is three times worse. Obviously you knew Hitler was a devout Christian? Obviously you have heard about the crusades? Obviously about 90% of all wars was caused by religion, or used religion to cover up the true causes?
Go choke in your obviousnes. You SUCK! And so does your ideologist bullshit.
Okay, so the extremely stupid evolutionist causing a famine was wrong.
However, if we let the extremely stupid religist pray for a nice harvest, it will all work out?
Read the fucking bible. It said Jesus himself is not against slavery.
Jonothan:
You are so intelligent you doubtless know that Christnians unneccessayrily conducted a war whose butchery was so savage that it caused blood to flow ankle deep in the streets of your holies city. It was called the crusades.
You doubtless know that Pope Pius XII was a nazi sympathizer who helped humdred if not thousand of genocidal maniacs and war criminals escape from Europe after WWII with Vattican passpoorts.
You doubtless know that waterboarding, along with a variety of other torture techniques was invented by the Jesuits during the Spanish inquisition.
You doubtless know that a bible believing Xtain stole the Presidency in 2000, neglected intelligence reports in July 2001 which led to the tragedy of 9/11, and then lied to the American people and its congress, promoted an unnecessary war with Iraw whoich has killed between 600,000 and 1 million Iraquis while costing this nation 3000+ of its own sons and daughters, not to mention upwards of 1 trillion dollars which can not be used to help its own people who are struggling in the midst of a recession. All the while sanctioning a variety of war crimes such as the ones committed at Abu Graib and Gitmo. Not the mention the wholesal abrogation of constitutional rights through such legislation as the “Patriot Act” and the “Protet America” Act.
You doubtless know that fundamentalist christians in the United States are at war with those who choose to exercise their constitutional right to disbeliefve the crap you are laying down and live their lives as they see fit while harming no one in the process.
In short you doubtless know you are complete asshold to suggest that the evils of the world flow out of a non-belief in god and religion when all around you the most extreme behavior is practiced by the most ardent believers in religion. Extremist Jews assinated Yitsak Shamir, extremist Islams gave us 9/11 aned worldwide Jihad, extremist Christias gave us the mess in Northern Ireland. And you know what, you are right that the cummunists and the Nazi caused an untold amount of chaos, terror and bloodshed. But if you think about it, you will realize that the “true belieers” of those ideologies were really embracing a secular faith-an irrational belief system which satisfied their religious impulses. In short it is the religious impulse that caused even those attrocities. That’s the same impulse you embrace, and most of the posters on thie board reject.
Title was certainly promising. Too bad that the rest of the mail couldnt keep it at that level.
“adherents of materialism Lenin, Stalin, Mao and the Cama Rouge”
it took me a couple of readings to figure out that he was referring to the khmer rouge…
once i figured that out, he needed to say nothing more to convince me of his unfitness to say whatever it was that he was saying.
“I guess I don’t need to tell you that materialism and Marxism/communism go hand in hand.” Huh? Where do you make that link? Citation of evidence please. I do enjoy a good fairy tale. Talk about crazy - apparently the FSM way of life/thinking will lead us to communism and killing everyone. I really enjoyed the diarrhea regarding eating human flesh. It takes a special genius to come up with that. And by special I mean stupid and by genius I mean Johnathon the village idiot.
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May You Be Blessed By The Touch of His Noodly Goodness
RAmen.
Infinity times 0 still equals zero.
Rant, rant, rant, yadda, yadda, yadda, blah, blah blah.
I don’t understand why the religious use others killing people as justification for their own wars and mass murders.
“What if youy eat the spaghetti monster… Do you worship him after he has been passed into the bowl?I guess it follows you would be worshipping your own night soil?
Yeah you guys got it figured out… You worship your own excrement…”
Maybe it’s worth mentioning to the 1.1 billion Catholics across the world the fact that they like to eat the BODY of Christ and even go as far as to drink his BLOOD is roughly the same thing.
It all comes out in the end.
Pastafari!
No, you don’t need to…
And yet you still do.
you make communism look bad ut all those countrys were crappy beefor communism i bet it would work really well in some of the Medc’s and why so synical he noodely goodness is not synical just a heavy drinker what is actally bad about spaghetti i love it and meat balls go and post your long hatefilled anti communist anti FSM pots on a web site that does not have a main section put up to laugh at people like you
RAmen
what is wrong with communism and you try to eat that much flying spaghetti i’d struggle wit hjut one fo those noodley appendages ot htat i would want to eat a god.
How to mix Pastafarianism and Communism? Please tell me, I’d try that as a sauce on my spaghetti.
And oh yeah, tomatoes sure are Communism red.
*sigh* Its awesome when the people who hate mail us make sense.
We don’t promote communism OR atheism. Anyone can believe whatever they wish to believe, as long as they don’t teach it as truth. Creationists, realizing that they made no sense what-so-ever decided to create ID to make their ideas more acceptable, and to be taught as scientific fact, along with evolution. Pastafarianism makes just as much sense as ID, so Robert Henderson, mocking the Kansas School Board’s proposal to teach ID, wrote an open letter telling them that his theory is just as acceptable, and should be taught along with ID if it was accepted.
Evolution is based on observable evidence and logical conjecture. It is not our fault that Stalin’s Ag. Committee misused Darwin’s ideas.
And tell me this, Johnathan: how many people has religion killed? Wars over religion have been happening since humans developed the idea of god, with the only justification being “my god is better than yours”. Hitler, committed the most infamous acts of genocide under the pretense that they were Jewish. What authority do you have to call us supporters of mass murder, my little Christian (assuming you’re Christian, as other groups aren’t as pretentious)?
Oh, and stop being condescending. We’re not dipshits. Now find a legitimate argument or piss off.
For everyone else, Peace, love and complex carbohydrates to all!
RAmen
I wonder if the Amazing-Johnathon means Khmer Rouge… Further he asks if we worship His Noodly Goodness after “…he has been passed into the bowl?”. Spaghetti on a plate or in a bowl… Still delicious!
RAmen
got to starlin killing 150 million and couldent help thinking: hmmm, so how many people has you so called god killed? well, theres the great flood, half of egypt…
good argument..
Why’s it always gotta be about communism?
We do not advocate violence, therefore I’m not gonna punch you in the face for a ridiculously long, drawn-out, pointless e-mail that went way off base and ended up not making sense at all.
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Oh yeah, and also, since we don’t advocate violence, I doubt we’ll be choking anyone with a plastic bag anytime soon.
See this is a classic example of the “Straw man” Fallacy. Our argument has been distorted and radicalized and then the weaker argument is disproved and the arguer claims victory over the original argument. This guy goes a step further and brings up poop. Well done, you have committed an extraordinary long and boring fallacy, and brought up poop, well done.
CONGRATULATIONS! We have a winner. The absolute dumbest comment ever posted on here.
First of all, you are a testament to the substandard school system from which you came.
I suggest you read a little bit about communism, then maybe come back with some other, far fetched reach of a comparison thats a bit more accurate.
Second of all, do you really want to compare death stats? Because communists dont hold a candle to the absolute atrocities committed by those in the name of their god, nor can they compete with the numbers. I’m sure you knew that though.
Thirdly, are you really saying that evolution is incorrect because of a failed experiment by the Soviet Union? I hate to tell ya, but they werent exactly authorities on the subject. You would know that if you understood evolution, which creationists usually dont. They choose not to. If they actually learned about it, it would mean that everything they lived their life by would be wrong. That would suck, so they ignore it.
So yea, congrats on the dumbest post I have seen on here, as well as the dumbest think I may have ever heard. You are an embarrassment to humanity.
Do you visit a faith healer or a hospital when you are ill? If it’s the latter, you are just as much of a “materialist” as we are. I guarantee you that your doctor (assuming you have one) not only believes in evolution, but has learned things from its study that has allowed him/her to improve your health and save the lives of many people. And by the way, none of the men or societies you mentioned above ever claimed to be pastafarian, nor have pastafarians ever claimed that communism is part of our religion; so I really don’t see where you are getting that from. May you be touched by his noodely appendage. RAmen.
-Sarah
Worship our own waste? No! Of course not! The Noodly One is eternal, and one could not even dream of being able to eat a being of his power. He was the one that created all noodles (and meatballs) in his image.
About the materialism, you do realize that the people you mentioned were not doing the things they did because they were materialists. In fact, you could say that they advanced the belief there was a god, the state. Also, I must mention the Crusades, the Inquisition, and the witch-hunts, all of which were conducted for and to uphold Christianity. Seems that Christianity doesn’t provide people with the morals it claims it does.
May you be touched by His noodly appendage,
Spartan
I cant see your connection materialism-communism. As far as I understand materialism is the notion that things make you happy (sometime it does, like a new computer) and this leads to a very high consumptionrate. If we should look at consumptionrates in the world, I believe that we find united states at the very top, westerneuropean contries a bit behind and then there is russia and a small gap and then the rest of the countres with sudan or some other country at horn of africa at last place. What does this tell us? well, it seems as materialism or the “get whatever you want and be happy (a while)” filosophy is present where you have a economic climate that allows to get what you want. That is liberalism and free trade and not communism.
Communism is intended as a paradise where everyone can rely on the collective and everything is fair. In reality however it just a nicerlooking form of facism where leaders say they do what is best for the people insted of the country while they’re doing what’s best for themselves.
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by the way, what does this got to do with anything?
Our philosophy is not theirs. You suck. Get educated.
I’m sure it’s better to be opressed by religious nutcracks than to be opressed by atheist nutcracks. Just because poor Stalins and poor yours mind could not process how evolution works, it doesn’t mean that it doesn’t work. I really enjoy your religious philosophy: If I don’t totally understand it, it’s the work of god.
If you are eating spaghetti from a can then your are:
a) 12 yrs old
b) in college and can’t afford more because you are saving up for that new video game you asked santa for, but realized he does not exist because an old man with a white beard who benevolently gives you things you ask for, is a silly concept.
c) living in your parents basement
Sadly, the best we can hope for is B.
He concluded that if a seed of wheat were immersed in cold water for duration of time it would “evolve” and adapt to cold temps. After the seeds cold water bath it could then be planted and would yield in abundance.
Just so you know, this is LeMarc evolution and not Darwinian. LeMarc is pretty much seen as defunct now. As far as I know, anyway. Feel free to correct me.
May you be touched by His Noodly Appendage,
RAmen.
aww it seems we made the poor copy-pasta boy angry this time awww
Your letter doesn’t seem to make much sense. You seem to argue that because communism doesn’t work, that evolution isn’t true, and we are worshiping our own poop? That seems like a strange leap in logic.
Well lets looks at Religions roll in killing people? It has been estimated that baring illnesses and plagues, that religion has been the base cause of more violence and deaths than any other single factor. Also you are wrong to assume that people here are materialists, many of us believe in God, just not your so rigidly defined God.
Your blind view that science (which equals materialism for you) and God are mutually exclusive actually shows more about you than us. Both can exist, it just takes using your brain for the science part, and humans do tend to be a lazy lot. Your stupid example about the wheat seeds in Russia really doesn’t prove anything. Back then there was not as clear an understanding of science as now, or for that fact evolution. Remember there was a time when people thought that flies sprung fourth from rotted meat, not from other flies. I am sure you long for those simpler times. We do alter our food, it’s called a hybid. We have tons of them at the grocery store, and understanding their biology made them possible, just like understanding science and biology created medicine.
Do me a favor since you look down on scientists (materialists) and the next time your sick or hurt don’t go to the doctor (because the cures were invented by us discusting materialists). Don’t eat foods that have preservatives, don’t drive cars or use the computer. Don’t use anything plastic, dont use shampoo or toothpaste. Just go live in the dark ages, since that is were you would be with out scientists, and judging from your reasoning, where you would be happier.
materialism and Marxism/communism go hand in hand.
Oh my pasta, Madonna’s a Commie!
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Well, thank goodness no one has ever killed in the name of a god, or else your whole point would be moot.
“Yup, you guys got it figured out.”
Up untill this point, I lost all respect and hope of a strong arguement.
Now tell me this “Johnathon”, could I have the link of the site you copy and pasted the first section of this email from? It looks quite intresting.
I whole-heartedly agree with the topic, although there is actually one minor thing even I don’t quite understand: What the fook does this have to do with anything?
I wonder if this is the same Johnathon from a couple posts ago…that would make sense considering how flawed his arguments are.
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There is so much I could take apart here but I will just choose one or two points that strike me. First:
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“He concluded that if a seed of wheat were immersed in cold water for duration of time it would “evolve” and adapt to cold temps.”
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This isn’t how evolution works. Read your science book John and you will at least gain a very rudimentary idea of evolution.
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You point all these terrible things that were cause by terrible people like Stalin, who was an atheist. Is that your argument? One could go through a history book and find COUNTLESS examples of Religious Genocide. Have you heard of the Spanish Inquisition?
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John, I am tired of these stupid and flawed arguments. You may have a grasp as to what happened in history, but not why. Study more and try again.
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Oh, and I am not sure when you say that “our philosophy” caused this. Pastafarianism has brought nothing but great things to this world.
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Squingle
Hey Johnathon, I have a question for you. Do you know that you are an idiot or does it just sort of come out?
First off, your sarcasm fails badly. Moving on.
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•FSMism… is materialism… which goes with communism? How’s that again?
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•See http://www.fallacyfiles.org/guiltbya.html from a better understanding of the fallacy you commit for the first half your letter.
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•Also, you say “the fundamental concepts of evolution were employed in farming techniques” then go on to describe a process which expects a change to occur while an individual seed is alive, which shows a terrible lack of understanding of the fundamental concepts of evolution. Wikipedia can help you.
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•”I’m sure that you know China will kill anyone whose ideals deviating outside its materialistic principals.”
Um, no.
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•”Perhaps you don’t mind losing your children, mother and father to assassination. Maybe you don’t mind everything you own being confiscated by the Govt and then being forced to work on a farm or infrastructure project till you die a miserable death.”
This shows a terrible understanding of FSMism, atheism, materialism, Marxism, AND communism. Again, research before writing letters can help preven making youself look like a fool.
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•”Although some of your science may be right the application of your philosophy (if carried out on a global level) would destroy mankind.”
What philosophy? Atheism, at least, is the LACK of a philosophy.
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•The FSM is not made of man-made pasta. That would be silly. Not all pasta is literally the FSM in the same way that communion wafers are not literally the body of Jesus.
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Come on. Why even write a letter if you aren’t going to bother checking what you say first?
Oh and I almost forgot one thing. You are making some huge stretches to prove a point here. Connecting what this site stands for and communism. Theres actually no connection to be made, but let me follow your suit and make one of my own.
First I will assume you know what this site is about. If you are attacking those premises, you are attacking the concept of seperation of church and state. If you attack that, you are attacking the founding fathers and the Constitution. Al Qaeda hates the U.S. Constitution, so you are therefore taking the side of Al Qaeda.
See how that works? Terrorist.
And of course Christians have never killed or tortured anybody.
Pacifists the lot. They even have the greatest of senses of humour.
The most tolerant of all religions. They make Wiccans look like blood thirsty savages.
They can’t possibly be wrong because they have ALL the answers.
It’s been said that the best defence is a good offence.
Well, you guys must be pretty good because I sure find most of you Christians offencive.
Mind you, I find most organized religions offencive.
The secret to true enlightenment is very simple. Keep an open mind.
Look at all sides of a situation before making a judgement. Don’t forget to take a long hard look at yourself too.
Yes, we think we’re pretty good. Not better than God maybe but still pretty good.
The point of FSMism is to poke fun at the so called organized religions who tend to take themselves far too seriously and are completely lacking in a sense of humour.
I’ve met staunch Christians in Sweden and at least they have it somewhat figured out. They aren’t out to convert anybody, don’t mind other religions, want to party and just get along with everybody. At their church gatherings they have beer, hotdogs, loud rock tunes, and the single girls are often quite agreeable to fucking you after the get together. Whether you’re Christian or not.
Their attitude is God wants us to be happy and love one another.
Something I don’t think you’ve figured out yet.
Oh well. Just remember the criteria for getting into Hell. You’re probably going there.
Too bad none of you ever respond back. More’s the pity.
Hey Johnathon,
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Is that the best you’ve got? You are seriously in need of help. Why don’t you get “The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster,” give it a read and then come back to let us know if anything you already said still makes sense to you. I’ll wait for your reply.
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RAmen
Man, you’re missing something important. All your examples are of various types and levels of dogma. We do not approve of dogma, your God’s or anyone else’s. Please examine the Gospel of the FSM. You may find we have much in common, if you are morally against the ideas you used as examples, Ramen.
Henderob, again you show your total ignorance, this time not only by signing a different name, but also spelling the fake name wrong.
Nice going.
Oh what glorious words! Where to begin with the everlasting praise!
Nothing is a better tool for guiding our own morality than the unsubstantiated word of some backwater stone age peasants. I mean, who can doubt the wisdom of our (here in the US) uneducated backwater hillbillies of today? Remove the knowledge gained over ages and we have wisdom of ‘biblical’ proportions. Being so close to Him lets the wisdom trickle in and down and is the best way to spread the ‘word’. Lest we forget for a moment, the great surveillance camera in the sky, whose ability to read our very thoughts is not daunted by mere tinfoil, be removed for a minute, what chaos and immorality would result! Why I wouldn’t know that it is wrong to beat my slaves within an inch of thier miserable lives - oh wait that’s OK according to the Old Testament. See there I go again not knowing right from wrong without His wisdom.
Why believe in things that can be tested such as scientific theories that are all complicated and full of math? Besides, what major religions even have math in them anyway? I kind of doubt math even exists as it is undoubtedly man made and thus inferior so I never bothered to understand it in the first place! What a timesaver! Moreover, what major religions even value thinking prowess? None - which is why I don’t bother!
Religion never hurt anyone! Infallible! Do you know what Infallible means! Infallible! As a young boy many a closely whispered word by priests made me feel so warm - down there. Infallible! And Screw U Copernicus!
Oh, and the whole evolution comment. So true! Dipping a wheat seed in cold water would totally adapt it to cold climes according to modern theory. Take that Science! In your face!
Jonathon, as far as I’m concerned, most of us are incredibly liberal and democratic. Even take a look at our president’s poll! We were all for Barack Obama, who happens to be Christian to all of you doubters. Very few of us are Communist advocates the way you make us look like. And anyways, Walmart wouldn’t exist without China…
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Anyhoo, to your point. About your Stalin example, well, Stalin certainly had an insufficient amount of knowledge of Evolution. Our current world, on the other hand, has. Thanks to the discovery of DNA, and the possibilities of genetic engineering, we HAVE made plants to withstand colder climates (but there are limits). In fact, almost every vegetables and fruits you buy are genetically modified plants to withstand pests and climate. What’s more, we can even make glow-in-the-dark tobacco plants! Cool, right?
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What does all of this have to do with Evolution? Simple: your DNA is the hard-coded blueprint that shows you have a pre-set ability of surviving on certain conditions. You can pass this down to you children in a process called inheritance; but some mistakes can occur, leading to mutation. We decided to exploit this process by manually making mutations, then having that DNA decoded by some other cells. There you have it: the birth of glow-in-a-dark plants and mice.
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Science has its magic. You should study it more.
Oh what glorious words! Where to begin with the everlasting praise!
Nothing is a better tool for guiding our own morality than the unsubstantiated word of some backwater stone age peasants. I mean, who can doubt the wisdom of our (here in the US) uneducated backwater hillbillies of today? Remove the knowledge gained over ages and we have wisdom of ‘biblical’ proportions. Being so close to Him lets the wisdom trickle in and down and is the best way to spread the ‘word’. Lest we forget for a moment, the great surveillance camera in the sky, whose ability to read our very thoughts is not daunted by mere tinfoil, be removed for a minute, what chaos and immorality would result! Why I wouldn’t know that it is wrong to beat my slaves - oh wait that’s OK according to the Old Testament. See there I go again not knowing right from wrong without His wisdom.
Why believe in things that can be tested such as scientific theories that are all complicated and full of math? Besides, what major religions even have math in them anyway? I kind of doubt math even exists as it is undoubtedly man made and thus inferior so I never bothered to understand it in the first place! What a timesaver! Moreover, what major religions even value thinking prowess? None - which is why I don’t bother!
Religion never hurt anyone! Infallible! Do you know what Infallible means! Infallible! As a young boy many a closely whispered word by priests made me feel so warm - down there. Infallible! And Screw U Copernicus!
Oh, and the whole evolution comment. So true! Dipping a wheat seed in cold water would totally adapt it to cold climes according to modern theory. Take that Science! In your face! See what happens when you rely on Science!
Thank you for that very informative historical retrospective on atrocity - I’m glad to join hand in hand with anyone to ensure nothing of any sort every happens.
Johnathon - still a twat I see
Who decided Pastafarianism = Materialism? I for one do not believe in or condone the things Johnathon is attributing to materialists. Did I misunderstand the teachings of the Great Noodley One? Or did Johnathon, like most of our hate-mailers, make up his mind about our religion without bothering to learn a single thing about it?
>You guys are infinitely more intelligent and all-knowing than God.
I also consider myself more intelligent than Zeus, Annat, Kumiho, Angakuit, etc. Then again, I have proof of my evidence exist and as yet no proof that any of these exist.
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>So I guess I don’t need to tell you that materialism and Marxism/communism go hand in hand.
Except the vast majority of people in Russia were Eastern Orthadox Christians when Stalin took over and remain so today. Most Chinese are Daoist (Taoist, a polythestic religion) when the communists took over. Hitler was a Christian (or at least said he was) as was Germany in the 1930-40s. Musilini and Italy were certainly Catholic. Pakistan, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Serbia, Northern Ireland, etc., etc. are all examples places were you can be assistinated, your women raped, your speech cencored, your neighbors attacked, people starving to death, etc. by dictators of some sort (kings, military rule, death squads, etc.) and yet all are non-materialistic.
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Perhaps it is just easy to be an insane, murdering, fanactical dictator if you have a population of religious folks willing to let you?
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>I guess that makes the spaghettis monster a “demi-god” cuz he came from wheat and tomatoes.
And that makes any less sense than a Catholic trying to explain the trinity (and the split in the Catholic religion because of it), a Mormon about their magical underwear, or a Muslim about his flying horse?
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So Henderob… just curious, but do you believe the Muslim teachings (Mohammad going to heaven on a flying horse)? How about the Mormon teachings (Smith talking with an angle about the ancient cities in the Americas)? How about the Jews (Jesus was not the son of God)? How about the Roman Catholics (evolution is true, the bible is not the literal truth)? etc., etc.
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So far no one has been killed over the meat-ball demi-god theory. Millions upon millions have died over the trinity theory, Jews have been murdered over countless centuries for not believing in Jesus, Muslims will happily murder anyone disbelieving their theories, etc., etc.
You say you want a revolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
You tell me that it’s evolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
But when you talk about destruction
Don’t you know that you can count me out
Don’t you know it’s gonna be all right
all right, all right
You say you got a real solution
Well, you know
We’d all love to see the plan
You ask me for a contribution
Well, you know
We’re doing what we can
But when you want money
for people with minds that hate
All I can tell is brother you have to wait
Don’t you know it’s gonna be all right
all right, all right
Ah
ah, ah, ah, ah, ah…
You say you’ll change the constitution
Well, you know
We all want to change your head
You tell me it’s the institution
Well, you know
You better free you mind instead
But if you go carrying pictures of chairman Mao
You ain’t going to make it with anyone anyhow
Don’t you know it’s gonna be all right
all right, all right
all right, all right, all right
all right, all right, all right
p.s. is it me or was that pretty much the only Beatle’s song Across the Universe didn’t bastardize?
Why thank you!
I am sorry to say, but some people just don’t get the irony in all of this. I think they will have to think more about their own faith rather than what others are doing. If you don’t understand why there is a Flying Spaghetti Monster, I don’t think you even understand the bases of your own faith. It makes me sad.
Haha! I’m looking forward to seeing what you lot make of this one….wrong on so many levels I can’t even begin to explain at this time of night.
A plea to all future hate-mailers, please don’t use sarcasm unless you know how. The trick is subtlety……..sorry forgot who I was talking to for a moment.
I stopped caring after “Cama Rouge”
“You guys are infinitely more intelligent and all-knowing than God” I’m glad one of you religiouso’s finally admitted it. And who are the Cama Rouge? You know what else I know? How to READ. Maybe you should pick up a text from this millenium.
Every attrocity you’ve named has been exceeded multiple times in the name of some god. As for soaking seeds in cold water, at least he didn’t pray over them. Just because a person can read a science book doesn’t make them a scientist.
Damn! You almost had me. Right up to “night soil”.
I jest.
Of course you are correct and above reproach for your views.
Fortunately, no atrocities or brutal, inhuman acts were ever perpertrated by a christian or a christian regime.
You are correct that all evil comes from non believers.
Except for that little scripture in your sacred book.
You know the one, do you not?
Isiah 45:7 ring a bell?
Or is that one of the verses we just overlook?
Or explain away as “metaphor”?
If the passage is true then the evildoers were merely using the creation of an all loving god and you should be thankful for their obedience.
By the by: how do you reconcile the blood soaked pentatuch with your apparent squeamishness?
Oh, wait! I forgot. That was under the old covenant. The un-changing god of the universe changed his mind and made a new covenant.
Silly me.
Your name is spelled wrong, Johnathon.
Wow. I’ll tell you how smart you are then. I’m sure you know that evolution is not a Philosophy. I’m sure you know that capitolism personofies evolution in its survival of the best mentallity. I’m sure you’re aware that Communism was not founded on evolution, but instead on the idea that society should not have social classes where the wealthy dominate the poor. This idea was perverted by a few evil dictators who wanted an excuse to control their people with an iron fist. Communism does look good on paper, it just didn’t work out because of the evil people who practiced it. But since you want to take deaths into this I want you to know that EVEN IF evolution was the real reason for all this you have NO RIGHT to tell us that evolution inspires killing. Here’s why…
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I’m sure you’re aware that the bible was used to justify slavery “enslave their bodies free their minds” right.
:: It is estimated that about 20 million slaves total died just from the trip to the americas alone, but some say its as low as 12 million, as high as 40 million. The ones who made it to the americas were made christian, that DEFINITELY makes it better!
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I’m sure you’re aware that the bible and q’aran were used as justification for the constant bloodshed and tears during the crusades. This includes the needless deaths of thousands of children who were told that god would protect them as they marched to battle. Or the senseless killing of everyone in Jerusalem during the first crusade, they killed EVERYONE! Including other christians! “god wills it”! remember?
::The Crusades give your bible an additional death toll of 1.5 million.
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I’m sure you’re aware that the bible was used as justification for the violent removal and killing of almost all native americans because they weren’t people. You see the bible didn’t say there were any people in the Americas, therefore these people in America aren’t people, they’re animals! The Bible says so! Makes perfect sense.
::The LOWEST estimate BY FAR for how many natives were killed for these reasons is 8 million: please realize that this is the lowest estimate out there. Most actually say 15-60 million. The highest is 145 million including all of North and South America.
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I’m sure you’re aware of the religious persecution carried out under the good name of the bible. I’m sure you’re aware of the holocaust. No! the holocaust had nothing to do with genetics when you look at it! Who did Hitler kill? Jews, Jehovah’s Witnesses and gays. Almost all either religous denominations or groups that the bible SAYS you have to be prejudice against.
::So, you have 8 million more deaths on your good book. I already took out the soviet POW’s, Spanish POW’s and other political enemies out of FAIRNESS to you!
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The bible talks about numerous battles throughout the history it talks about.
::These deaths are totaled at 1.25 million deaths. There are many battles but if you don’t believe me visit for the details. You’ll find that they sometimes enslaved virgins, killed children, and took material from who they attacked too.
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All this was from about 20 minutes of searching. I could find more if I wanted to, but I think these few examples that at the LOWEST estimates total 30,750,000 deaths are enough to prove my point. This is from the lowest estimates from all of these, when I came up with that number I tried to be nice and go with the LOWEST estimate instead of the MOST LIKELY one or the ones that are GENERALLY AGREED ON!
wow, we’ve been called a lot of things but i think comunist baby killers is a new one. And I truly didn’t know that Stalin and Mao were proponenets of freedom of religion and free thought. Although I am confused at how you can use sarcasim but not recognize satire.
Dear Jonothon,
If you are going to use history to bash the almighty FSM, I think you should go back to 9th grade history.
Cama Rouge?
Try Khmer Rouge.
I hope you take the time to educate yourself before you embarrass yourself again.
I like how you compare us to Communists, too.
Maybe if you try hard, you will be touched by His Noodly Appendage as well.
Sincerely yours,
Jenny
Damn. I think this guy’s onto us. Call off the global domination plans. They’ve found us out.
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St John the Blasphemist
Saint of Iron Fists
yeah it’s spelled BOYARDEE GET IT RIGHT
BOYARDEE
Forgive me if you are not Christian, I’m just assuming you are. What happens when you eat Jesus in church? do you defecate your savior later in the day?
Hello,
Although many of us may be atheists or even Christians. We just don’t believe in religion being taught in schools, because it is our right as citizens to the separation of church and state. Science may have been used and in Russia, that was a terrible scientist who tried to make a seed evolve. Many different communist societies banned religion, but we as citizens also have our right to worship protected by the constitution. Yes science has created many things, such as paper for writing the bible, mans worst creation, or the atomic bomb. But science has provided you with almost every single thing that you can purchase. The industrial revolution, medical advances which helped you when you were born or if you ever had medicine, Power, nuclear power. So you have issues with science because it created swords and guns for your religious wars, you try living without it. No cars, planes, electricity, TV and computer. And you know what, we shouldn’t worship our crap but we could at least salute it. We are not communists for not liking religion, we’d be communists if we gave to the proletariat. Also, what dose it matter if people were killed for disagreeing with the ideas of the state. If you mean that religion allows for free speech you are wrong. How about the Spanish Inquisition, where people were killed because they disagreed with the ideas of the Catholic Church. Or the Salem witch trials, how about the crusades, the holocaust, how about the thirty and eighty years war, the crucifixion’s of Christ. Materialism is the engine behind the American capitalist engine, so it is horrible of you to assume that just because people believe in science that they are Marxist. Just like I can’t say that you are a religious bigot for your arguments. FUCK YOU.
-J.T.S.
It really, really irks me when folks come here and take that irritatingly sarcastic tone of superiority, but what irks me even MORE is when people lump in agnosticism/atheism with bleeding red socialism and call one a godless commie. The late Madalyn Murray O’Hair put it best when she described most atheists as conservatives: highly individual, capable of ordering their own lives, self-directed, free-thinking, and generally live-and-let-live. The lack of belief in a deity doesn’t automatically make one a socialist, nor does it turn one into a murderous monster.
Moving onto your arguments, firstly, the chief of the Soviet Union’s agricultural committee was implementing Lamarckian ideas (use and disuse) with his wheat project, not Darwinist ideas. His attempts to make cold-resistant wheat failed because he had effected no change whatsoever in the wheat’s genes by exposing the seeds to cold. To get cold-resistant wheat, you’d have to get heritable mutation in the wheat that allowed its enzymes to function at low temperatures (in these days one might try splicing in some gene that conferred cold resistance). The guy’s procedure would be analogous to having a stallion and mare run for 12 hours a day every day, then breeding them expecting to get a race-winning foal. Evolution doesn’t work that way.
Secondly, if we’re going to talk about great stacks of corpses in the name of a philosophy, why not bring up the Crusades, or the Inquisition, or the Nazi holocaust, or the KKK’s idea of fun? Religion, particularly popular religion like Christianity (which I assume you adhere to), can be used to mislead members of the public and murder millions, and indeed, it often has been. However, I’m sure you’ll see my logic when I say that a particular philosophy is not responsible for these atrocities. It’s just what happens when you have a system in place with no means to keep it accountable. Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, and the other genocidal dictators had absolute power and could do whatever they wanted. The fact that they were atheists had nothing to do with it. I’m sure you’d make the same point for the Christians who initiated ghastly crimes in the name of Jesus: being Christian had nothing to do with it, it was the fact that they had absolute power and could do whatever they wanted. Atheism and Christianity are not necessarily evil things. It’s just that some of their adherents obtained far more power than is healthy. To use a cliche, absolute power corrupts absolutely.
One more thing: I don’t have it all figured out. But I know enough to say with confidence that the concept of a deity or deities is superfluous and probably false. You might consider the evidence more extensively before you demonize someone else’s philosophy with inaccurate comparisons in the name of your own beliefs. Thank you for your time.
Don’t ever compare people who dont’ believe in god to these monsters of history, I am sure you are aware of Ivan the terrible, and his reign serving “God” when he forced people to go to church or be slaughtered in horrible tourture chambers. I’m sure you know that it was he who created the Oprichniki who then raped and pilliaged the home land. I am sure you are well aware of the Bloody crusaides where slogans such as “it is not a crime against God to kill a heathen” were produced! I’m sure you relise that during the Rawandian Genocide hordes of people flocked to the churches in hopes of being saved by their all mighty God, only to become traped and butchered by machete because in that case bullets were to precious as well. If you even began to study evolution you would relise that putting seeds in cold water then expecting them to have an imunity to cold weather is an incredibly stupid idea and that that scientist was a moron! I would hope you relise that Communism and a belief that Intellegent design shouldn’t be taught in a science classroom isn’t the same thing! That the atrocities that Communism created ARE NOT our problems! Did you do even a small amount of research into what this whole site represents before you did your half assed research on human history? You’re an idiot, if you’re going to bash something you don’t believe in do some bloody critical thinking before you do it, give me some relevent situations to consider. Not a bunch of horrible things that in no way are related to me or what I believe in!
PS. If there are spelling mistakes in this post (wich I’m sure there are plenty) I am sorry, people like this piss me off and I’m typing fast because of it.
Wait…what? There are so many jumps in logic, I don’t even know where to begin. Lack of religion does not breed communism. An argument could be made for the reverse, but the causality most certainly does not work in the direction you seem to want it to. Democracies with little influence from religion can be found all around the world. Furthermore the Flying Spaghetti Monster in no way advocates materialism. And number of pastafarian countries with massive famines or social injustices? ZERO
First of all, Stalin, Lenin, and Mao don’t have a damn thing to do with FSM or anything else on this site. Athiest and agnostic are not synonyms of communism. What you are doing is called scare mongering.
Secondly, let me just say “Crusades”.
Third, philosophy is bullshit. History has proven this. Yet humanity can’t seem to let this kind of crap go. Along with tribalism and ancestor worship, philosophy IS the tragedy of history. Keep that in mind next time you read a history book - you’ll see it too.
Some, but not all the people on this site are philosophers; most of the folks who send hate mail are philosophers. Philosophy only adds an additional layer of bullshit and fallacy to the facts - just like religion. Believe in the facts and don’t try to ad lib because you think something should be a certain way. If you fundies would have done that from the begining, our prophet Bobby wouldn’t have ever preached the word of the FSM.
Now isn’t that what you wanted from the moment you first heard about this site?
I know that it’s petty, but really, 1 letter out of 4 (or 5) correct?
I presume Cama = Khmer? Perhaps it’s karma…
On the point of “night soil”, presumably a creationist would, perforce, argue that since all creatures that create soil at night are perfectly created by an intelligent designer - the design of said night soil must also be perfect and also worthy of adoration?
Not that we worship His Noodliness for that reason.
Ramen
I don’t see what this has to do with Pastafarianism…
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Could someone translate this out of dumbass and into English please? Or at least Canadian, I can kind of understand Canadian :D
RAmen
dude…chill out. If u had done a little homework, you would know that FSM dosent try to put down other religions, and that its not that serious. To me, FSM is another way of saying “I’m not really secure about my religios beliefs,” and i’m also pretty sure that most of us don’t really believe in the FSM (~le GASP! a non-believer!~). Mabye Mr. Henderson. So yeah, its all good.
Is it me, or was that the sound of one odd duck quacking with the perfect vision of hind site?
After making a rambling statement marked by poor punctuation and frequent, oblique references to Communism, materialism, and feces, “Johnathon” was taken into custody and bound over for evaluation at the Missoula Health Services. Local authorities have indicated that they will have no comment on the matter until Johnathon’s “manifesto” is scrutinized by the FBI for any references to terrorism, and indeed, any coherent thoughts whatsoever.
“You guys are infinitely more intelligent and all-knowing than God.”
Thanks, I know.
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And I also know some other stuff.
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And I’m sure I know lots of other things too.
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I also know what 2 plus 2 is.
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And I bet I know what color the sky is.
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Hmm… I know some other stuff too.
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Did I mention I know stuff?
You act as if other religions didn’t do any mass murdering? Your using an abstract concept, comparing Pasta to Putin, it doesn’t work. China was responsible for their famine, not us, nor marxism. I seriously don’t understand how your trying to use communism as a reason for fighting the ideal of intelligent design being taught in schools. Go get a better argument, a more relevant one, before you come here and try to discredit us. Do not acuse us of being ignorant while you blatantly are.
Materialistic? Honey, we’re spaghetti-istic. And who says we eat Chef Boyardee? (I like Ragu, thank you very much)
But what I really find amazing is that he managed to write so much (and by comparison, so coherently) and yet not notice that we’re a SPOOF.
rAmen
Johnathon,
What are you smoking? FSM has nothing to do with materialism. For that ask the preachers of the Mega churches. You are the winner of the “miss the point game”. With all that you typed, all you showed is how pathetic you really are and have no understanding of the purpose of FSM. It would have taken you less time to read the about page then to type all your ridiculous commentary.
Please go back to school, learn to comprehend subject matter before spouting off on something you know nothing about,
RAmen!
Perhaps you don’t mind losing your children, mother and father to eternal fire. you cannot convert them, only the holy spirit can convert them. So why bother indoctrinating them?
You are oh so close to being intelligent, oh so close! I’m sure by the use of “ya’ll” you are a fellow southerner…. which is the reason that I can confidently proclaim you have been educated beyond your intelligence.I’m sure I don’t need to tell you that your “god” as I’m sure you are a pseudochristian, has had more people killed in it’s name than any other single doctrine based “supreme being” in history. It’s almost as bad as the correlation between lack of pirates and global warming! However…I’m sure all the cold war nonsense you spewed in your previous statement and thesis on FSMism could only mean that you’ve been subject to the unholy gospel of idiocy….considering you took the time to respond to this site can only tell all of us that you don’t truly beleive in your religion, and need to belittle others who don’t think the same way as you, so you can feel better about your non pirate ways…they used to call you people the english…now we call you bullies…either way, if I am wrong in my belief…when we die… I owe you an ale! otherwise…learn to spell!!!
RAmen
do you know how many more people Religion has killed than Communism? The crusades alone probably did just that.
oh…I forgot the night “soil” thing, isn’t that called communion?
Wow… just wow, I don’t even know where to begin, but let’s go with the beginning. First of all Materialism does NOT go hand in hand with Communism, Materialism is defined as the investment of meaning in the possession of material goods. This is a direct correlation to capitalism with the build up of wealth and therefore material possessions, capitalism is a materialistic philosophy, communism is the opposite, the giving away of material possessions for the good of all.
Secondly - while it may be true that communist leaders the world over have killed many people religious leaders have killed far more (there philosophies have been around longer) let’s just start off with the basics. The Crusades, Witch burnings, the Spanish Inquisition, the conquest of South America by Spanish Conquistadors, let us not forget the slaughter of the Jesuits, ritual human sacrifice, Suicide Bombings, and lest I forget the Protestants, the United States of America, a nation founded by Protestants, was one of the Western last nations to give up slavery, and had to have a war over it.
Thirdly – It’s Khmer Rouge, you dumbass!!
Fourthly – I am not an atheist, I am a Pelagianist. If you do not know what that is, it is an old form of Christianity based on the teachings of a British Lawyer turned Christian Monk from the 5th century A.D. named Pelagius. This guy was saying what Martin Luther said long before he said it; I simply relate this information to you so that you do not scoff and talk about my lack of faith, or call me a heretic.
Fifthly – The first communist societies were Christian societies, in the dark ages and medieval times after the fall of the Roman Empire life was lived collectively, everyone moved as part of a greater whole that they had proscribed roles to play from birth. The land did not belong to people, people belonged to the land.
And finally this website is not about a serious religious belief, but rather a point that Intelligent Design should not be taught in science classrooms because it is not science, the simple fact that you actually thought this was a true religion shows your own lack of critical thinking ability.
I weep for your children, and pray for your enlightenment.
May his noodley appendage be upon you.
Ramen
Wow. Not only does Johnathon not only have not the vaguest idea of what socialism is supposed to be about, but he somehow thinks that we have anything to do with it. *Scratches head with hook hand*. But he *STILL* does the lame-o “Eat ur god!” routine. 1/10. Pathetic trolling, but I gave him a bonus point for actually bothering to capitalize his name. And having at least basic English skills.
Hrm. That’s an interesting theory, now. Nearly 100% of the lamest Hate-mail is from Christians. Does that mean that being Christian makes you stupid? >:D
I’m a Christian, Theologian, and Iraqi War Veteran. I stay this to clarify that I’m not calling you a fraud who contaminates facts to amply his point, since you targeted my beliefs, I’m calling you a fraud who contanimates facts to facts to fit his point, because you are exactly that…
First off all, this side has nothing to do with socialism and instead it has to to do with defending against the infringement of constitutional rights from religious entities and this fact alone both crushes your point while showing that you’re utilizing the anonymity of the internet as an eKlan-robe and eKlan-hood.
The citizens of Russia revered Lenin because Nikolay Alexandrovich Romanov was incompetent and allowed his country to enter into famine during one of the worst winters recorded in Russian history at that time and he didn’t have a rotten maggot filled potato to give them. While Mao’s reverie is due to the run he has to the back of his citizens heads. Neither of which had anything to do with evolution.
In fact it is beyond pathetic that you are unable to make an intelligent argument that is based against the crux of this philosophical doctrine or the issues which revolve around that crux and you’re left to make absurd comparison as means to demonize a philosophy, because it contradicts your own beliefs and that is the true testament to the fragility of your intellect, self esteem, and your charlatan practices.
No one here searched you out to attack you and your beliefs, so why don’t you show them the courtesy by doing the same, and go read a book that is fiction or propaganda.
Sincerely,
P.J. Nixon Man, Marine, & True Christian
Johnathon,
I’m sure you know that none of us here support the atrocities that you mention and that they are not the outgrowth of freedoms that we want.
Of course you realize that these regimes have more in common with religious oppression than freedom. Yes their leaders were treated as gods, and look what happened to a society that didn’t question authority.
Oh and uh by the way, genetic engineering has increased the food supply dramatically you moron.
I’m sure your beliefs are making you suffer. Don’t spread it around
Well lets just consider canonical society’s. How many were killed in the Crusades to reclaim the holy land how many still are, how may perished in the Spanish Inquisition. Oh how about the Salem witch trials after all religion did such a good job of saving the innocent. These are just very few of the Christan examples the presence of god in no way guarantees that mankind remain civil and just in fact it can often lead to much worse loss of life
Err, not really. The all-knowing FSM influenced us to create pasta in his image.
This just smacks of selective reasoning and self-pompous hypocrisy.
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” materialism and Marxism/communism go hand in hand.” Even if this were true (which it isn’t), this has nothing to do with Atheism- or it’s satirical cousin Pastafariansim. Already, you have proven you have no idea what it is you are refuting.
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Furthermore, the claim that Mao, Lenin, and Stalin committed their atrocities because they were atheistic is completely fallacious. I could easily claim that Hitler and Franco committed their crimes because they were raised Catholic and believed they were doing God’s bidding. It’s a bunk claim. It is similar to saying that Hitler and Stalin killed millions because they both had mustaches. It is a ridiculous line of thought and it saddens me that someone could be taken in by it.
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Please, learn to think for yourself. It is liberating and the greatest gift humanity has earned itself. Don’t ignore this gift!
What an odd combination of ideas to rant about! Materialism leads to Communism? What planet did you go to school on? Communism is a rejection of materialism. The ideals of communism are to get rid of the rich people and to share efforts and rewards out equally. (A nice ideal, but it never works in the real world. People are just inherently too lazy for it to ever be a practical system.)
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AND, the FSM has nothing to do with materialism (except for occasional pillaging). We are here to stop religious groups using the public schools as a pulpit. To serve as a mirror to the Fundamentalists so they can see how they look to everyone else. And maybe to encourage people to open their minds just a bit.
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So, maybe you are blaming atheism for Lenin, Stalin, Mao and the Khmer Rouge? One of the hallmarks of being an atheist is deciding to Think For Yourself. These horrible dictators may have been atheists themselves, and may have tried to wipe out churches, but the last thing that they wanted people to do was Think For Themselves. They wanted people to continue behaving like sheep, but tried to substitute their own political philosophy as the new religion.
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By the way, Hitler was a theist. Does that explain why he did what he did? (Or maybe it was the mustache? Stalin had one too!). Some people, both theist and non-theist, are just very bad people, and their religion, or lack of it, does not change that basic fact. Your faith does not make you a good person. Deciding to be a good person is what makes you a good person. (And you don’t have to be a sheep.)
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If you are going to rant about materialism, please go find a materialist audience to do it at. I think you are in the wrong place here.
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Go eat some pasta - it’ll only do you good.
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RAmen
Oh Jonathon. I am sure you know of all the innocent people tortured and murdered by chritians during the inquisition. I am sure you also know of all the people murdered by religious fundamentalism of all kinds throughout history.
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Your inept sarcasm is missing the mark. You think that a secular philosophy leads to totalitarian government and the destruction of society as we know it? The same is true of any theocracy.
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However, the fact remains that the concept of Intelligent design as proposed by radical christian’s is NOT and can NEVER be science. It fails to satisfy the definition of what science is. Accordingly it should NOT be taught as science.
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I am sure others here will be able to give more fulsome examples of the atrocities comited against innocent people by so-called christians throughout history. I, for one, am content to say to you that you sarcastic tone and lack of tolerance show clearly that you have missed the point of the faith you profess.
What a stupid post. Didn’t you know that Communism is nothing but another dogmatic religion, with all its elements like priests, leaders, absolute truth, etc. Whereas pastafarianism is a non-dogmatic religion with room for errors. A dead person does not care if he or she was murdered by a communist commissar or a priest from the Holy [sic] Inquisition.
What about the Xians? Don’t they eat their good in a cannibalistic ritual called eucharist? Didn’t they killed millions of innocent people in the name of god? What a hypocritical post.