Billions of years ago

Published February 26th, 2008 by Bobby Henderson

“Billions of years ago, a big bang produced a large rock. As the rock cooled, sweet brown liquid formed on it’s surface. As time passed, aluminum formed itself into a can, a lid, and a tab. Millions of years later, red and white paint fell from the sky and formed itself into the words “Coca Cola… 12 fluid ounces.”

Of course my theory is an insult to your intellect, because you know that if the Coca Cola can is made, there must be a maker. If it is designed, there must be a designer. The alternative, that it happened by chance or accident is to move from the intellectual free zone.

Here is another:

“The Banana: The Atheist Nightmare”

Note that the banana…

1. is shaped for the human hand.

2. has a non-slip surface.

3. Has outward indicators of it’s inward contents. Green – too early, yellow – just right, black – too late.

4. Has a tab for removal of it’s wrapper.

5. Is perforated on wrapper.

6. Has a bio-degradable wrapper.

7. Is shaped for the human mouth.

8. Has a point at the top for ease of entry.

9. Is pleasing to the taste buds.

10. Is curved towards the face to make the eating process easy.

To write that the banana happened by accident is even more unintelligent than to write that no one designed the Coca Cola can.

Test 1.

The person who thinks the Coca Cola can has no designer is:

A. Intelligent

B. A fool

C. Has an ulterior motive for denying the obvious

Now the document that I am referring from states that the eye has 40,000,000 nerve endings and focuses it’s muscles approximately 100,000 times a day. and that the eye has a retina that contains approximately 137,000,000 light sensitive cells.

The document continues and states that Charles Darwin stated:

“To suppose that the eye could have been formed by natural selection, seems I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree” Agreed… it does not have the reference recorded so I do not know if this statement is true or false. But let me get to the point at hand.

If man can not create the human eye then how can anyone in their right mind believe that it was created by chance? In fact… man can’t create anything from nothing… we just do not know how to do it. We can re-create, reform, develop… but we can not create one grain of sand from nothing. Yet the human eye… is a mere tiny part of the most sophisticated part of creation – the human body.

Again… another statement which I would have to research and verify if this person actually made this comment:

“George Gallup; “If I could prove God statistically; take the human body alone; the chance that all the functions of the individual would just happen, is a statistical monstrosity.”

Now this statement concerning Albert Einstein. This is confusing… why would this man contradict himself? If he stated this… then every other statement that has been quoted at this forum is invalid because the man appears to be speaking from both sides of his mouth. In this statement Einstein is quoted to have said:

“Everyone who is seriously interested in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the universe – a spirit vastly superior to man, and one in the face of our modest powers must feel humble.”

Test 2:

1. Do you know any building that did not have a builder? Yes? No?

2. Do you know any painting that did not have a painter? Yes? No?

3. Do you know any car that did not have a maker? Yes? No?

If you answered “Yes” to any of those statements… please give details:______________________…

Third analogy:

Could I convince you that I dropped 50 oranges onto the ground and then by chance fell into ten rows of five oranges? Logically, anyone with an intelligent mind might conclude that someone put them there. The odds that ten oranges would fall into a straight line is mind boggling. Let alone ten rows of five.

Test 3

Yes or No 1. From the atom to the universe is there order?

Yes or No 2. Did it happen by accident or must there been an intelligent mind?

3. What are the odds of 50 oranges falling by chance into ten rows of five oranges? ______________________________…

To declare that there is no God is to make an absolute statement. And for an absolute statement to be true; one must have absolute knowledge. Here is another such statement: “There is no gold in China.”

Test 4 What would I need to have for that statement to be true?

A. No knowledge of China?

B. Partial knowledge of China?

C. Absolute knowledge of China?

“C” is the correct answer. In order for the statement to be true, I must know that there is no gold in China.

Likewise; to state that there is no God and to be correct then you are stating that you are omniscient. You must have absolutely certain knowledge that there isn’t one.

Let’s say that a circle contains all the knowledge of the universe. And let’s say that you have an incredible understanding of one percent of all that knowledge. Is it possible that the knowledge you haven’t yet come across, that there might be ample evidence to prove that God does indeed exist?

If you are reasonable, you would have to admit, “Having the limited knowledge I have at present, I believe that there is no God.” In other words, you don’t know if God exists, so you are not an atheist. You are an “agnostic.” You are like a person that looks at a building and doesn’t seem to know if there is a builder.

Test 5 The man who sees a building and doesn’t know if there is a builder is:

A. Intelligent

B. A fool

C. Has an ulterior motive

In summary: There are plenty of things that we have faith in that we do not fully understand. Most of us do not have a complete understanding that when you turned your computer on as to why it worked. You took a step of faith that turning it on… that somehow that it would work. You accept the unseen electrical waves that appear right in front of your eyes when you type your comments here. We do not see the reason for why the messages appear… because the powers that be are invisible to the naked eye. For them to be manifest, we need a monitor… so we can enjoy the experience of this forum.

God is not flesh and blood; He is an eternal Spirit. Immortal and invisible… like the computer waves. He can can not be experienced unless the monitor is turned on. One should approach the Bible in the same way as the monitor. If it works, enjoy it and if it doesn’t, forget it.

Or do you have an ulterior motive? Could it be that the “atheist” can’t find God… as a thief can’t find the policeman? Could it be that your logic is clouding your good judgment?”

-Jonathon



613 Responses to “Billions of years ago”

  1. This Guy says:

    Turn your banana around, and suddenly it is designed to make the “eating process” less easy! A terrible design flaw…

  2. Ereshkigal says:

    I have never seen an entirely bunch of nonsense arguments in a sole exposition, that´s why I decided to crush this ignorant person too:

    About your banana stuff:

    1 – have you even noticed that it fits into the hands of all primates?, perhaps god was also thinking in helping the monkeys, because they are so stupid and need an easy fruit to eat.

    2 – do you already know that your so perfect fruit comes from a not so perfect tree?, it have no seeds, so it needs human hands to reproduce, do you know that the modern bananas that you eat are man made?, perfectioned in years of growing and artificial selection by man?

    3 – then, by analogy, the piña is a devil made fruit, because:

    1 is not shaped to fit the human hand

    2 it has a terrible surface

    3 it does not have indicators of it´s content

    4 it does not have a removal tool to open

    5 it is terrible difficult to open

    6 it also has a bio degradable wrapper, but this one can be eaten as well but after a terrible and sometimes long treatment

    7 it is not shaped for the human mouth

    8 do you need to have the mouth of a snake in order to eat it without cutting it

    9 it has a good taste but you need to work in order to get it

    10 it is designed to choke you to death if you try to eat it without cutting it.

    so, you and your fanatics friends have to name it this one as fruit of the devil, and with almost all the other fruits, just because natural selection give you by chance one single fruit that satisface all your stupid requirements, does not involve that god create it or indeed create anything, is indeed just a proof about what happened by natural selection when casuality and millions of years gave to nature, do you already know how stupid this statment looks when giving credit to your god for a fruit that man created by artificial selection?.

    then by your words, if man can create something, then that means that there is a creator for anything, then, by analogy, ants can create their own nests, and castors their homes, and monkeys can create umbrellas with leaves for rainy days, then indeed are an Ant God, a Castor God, and a Monkey God, God create man to his image you say, and I say: “from where come your egolatric point of view to feel you superior to the other animals in this world?”, are you more faster than the horse?, more stronger than beetle?, more beautiful than a butterfly?, if you were alone and naked in the woods, you will be dead in three days, at the claws of other animals, and your god will not be there to save you, because it does not exists.
    and please, don´t say that god created everything and he is inmaterial and can assume the form of other animals, because you are then saying that god can reduce himself to an animal form, and that is a blasphemy and an heretical statement, and then by your own beliefs you will be an heretic.

    - We already know that from the basic stones of inanimated matter and basic forms of energy the life takes form, we have seen this in experiments tons of times, you only need matter, electricity and millions of years of trial and error, this is the real beauty of natural selection, not your stupid fairy tales with god.

    - Please, try reading all books Einstein that he wrote, not only your silly bible, then you will understand that he calls “god” to the natural laws of the universe, the same statment that Newton use for his works, you are almost the same that those stupid people that claimed to Newton have as his masters alien intelligences just because he stated in one of his works “If I have gone this far, is because I was carried by giants”, Newton is given reference to Kepler, Galileo and Copernicus in those words, like all your fanatic brethren, you are just interpreting and seeing what you wanted to see.

    for your ridiculous test 3:

    it only needs time for those arrangements to take form, if we stand and look to 50 oranges fall, there are a small probability that they fall and order 5 rows, but the time for this to happen is very very long, indeed, by Quantum Theory, you can blink for a few seconds into mars and come back to Earth, but for that to happen you have to wait almost ten times the age of actual universe, you are looking a easy event of chance in your patethic lifetime, 80 years is nothing, and almost nothing is acomplished in that scale of time, you need millions of years for that to happen, and your simple life is not enough to witness that.

    for statment 4, you are trying to use distorted logic to show your point, and I will crush you using the same logic:
    the tree answers are wrong, there can not be an actual “full” knowledge of China, because “full” means that you already are aware of what happen in China, not only in surface or in it´s caves, but also in his core, underground chambers and in the molten core of the Earth, you can only talk about “theory” of gold in China, “I have the theory that there are Gold in China”, then we will look for answers, digging, taking satellite photos, and the like, and perhaps we can find true or false, we can state that: “after looking all the evidence, we assume that there are no gold in China”, “but we can be wrong and are waiting for the evidence of this”, you are looking the problem in the distorted point of view of your religion, dealing in absolutes, there IS or there IS NOT, never “we are going to look for evidence”, we atheists after reviewing all the evidence, assume that there are no God, but if anyone can prove that there “is” a god, then we will review our statments, the problem is that there are no evidence, no evidence in 2000 years of history, only your silly fabule and your fanatic tales, worse of all, less evidence when we learned that your faith is only a copy of others, so please, don´t try your silly logic against learned people, because you will be mocked.

    for your next statment, then you are saying that everytime that man discover more of your circle of knowledge, god hides in the next part, then your god is a bufoon!, because he likes simplistic jokes, “damn!, these humans are so close to discover me!, where I will hide next???”, I will use more complex statements to destroy your god, there can not be any “god”, because it´s existence will be a direct assault and contradiction with the basic laws of nature:

    god is a creature that knows everything, and can do anything, and this is contradictory with the laws of nature:

    - your god then can reverse entropy, giving order into chaos, and this is a direct violation of the Second Law of Thermodynamics, one of the most basics laws of the universe, your god is then capable of knowing the exact position and velocity of anything, even particles, and this is a direct violation of Heisenberg´s Uncertainty Principle, another basic law of nature, and then your god can give account of all numbers of the universe, and describe them, and this is a direct violation of the Cantor´s Problem, “but god can do anything” will be your answer, my friend, why just we skipped all the stupid statments and distorted claims and just say: “laws of nature are the product of just another forces, all natural ones, and we don´t need alien and stupid statments like “god” to explain them”.

    for statment 5: I agree, a building needs a constructor, and following your statments, then god is the next constructor, but then I will ask you: Who build god???.

    1 – another entity “and that claiming will just demostrate that your god is not the original god”

    2 – “no, god is eternal”, stupid statment, then let´s just say “universe is eternal”, and we avoid the fool statment about god, let´s follow your logic: god is a constructor, god is eternal, man is constructor too, then man is eternal?, “yes you will say, my soul is eternal”, stupid statment, your soul does not build, your hands do, and your hands are mortal, you are claiming just faeries to defend your theories.

    indeed, electrical charges are not seeing, but they can be measured, and detailed by mathematics, where your god can be defined, appart of your faeries and your nonsense book?, nowhere, and this is a real fact.

    and to finish this argument: you are an heretical person, claiming that god is inmaterial and invisible and that only a few can experience them, then you are one of the few that can be a part of god?, according to church, all man are capable to feel god, and god is not inmaterial, he has human form and almost the same human feelings, and you are comparing the bible with a monitor, telling that only a few persons and “you” are the direct heirs of heaven, then that means that you have a direct authorization from the pope to be a saint, because only those selected by church can be sure to enter kingdom of heaven, the others we are not sure, you are a self proclaimed saint and a person of god, I can give you full description of all the church laws that you are breaking and mocking with that statment, but already this comment is way too long and then again, you will not understand either.

    so my friend, in your last statment, and according to the precepts of your own faith we find that you have perniciously erred in the faith of god, and that you are a child of supersition, a wanderer from the faith, an invoker of demons, an idolater, and a HERETIC.

    RAMEN!

  3. DitonatorGak says:

    The second freshness — here that a nonsense! The freshness happens only one — the first, she and last write to a thicket

  4. Peter says:

    If god wanted things to be so easy for us, like the banana, then wouldn’t he/she/it have also made cows without legs, so they’re easier to kill, and fish without fins so that they are easier to catch, etc?

  5. theFewtheProudtheMarinara says:

    Sheesh! I’ve seen all of your tired arguments torn to shreads years ago, but let’s do it again!

    So god must exist, because everything complex needs a creator. God is extremely complex, so he must have a god of his own who created HIM. Then that creator needed an even MORE complex creator, etc, etc. Where does it stop?
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    The banana, which fits us so well, was engineered by people! From CorpWatch:
    When humankind first encountered this fruit thousands of years ago we were probably not impressed by the almost inedible giant wild bananas. Historic mutations, rare and accidental, produced seedless bananas through chromosome triplication. Ancient humans focused on these seedless, pollen-less mutants to generate progressively more edible crops. Eventually, edible banana flesh retained only a few vague traces of the viable seeds once carried in the ancestral wild stock.

    Ancient plant breeders grew edible bananas by grafting sterile mutants onto wild stems. This process was repeated for thousands of years to produce the emasculated, sterile — and defenceless — plantation banana that currently feeds millions of people globally.
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    As to the arrangement of oranges, I would suggest you study statistics, then consider the staggering number of “trials” which would have happened throughout history. Then consider the fact that certain “arrangements” would have reproductive advantages, and it becomes apparent that given BILLIONS of simultaneous trials over BILLIONS of years would produce these advantageous arrangements.
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    The human eye: There are “sub-eyes”, you know. There are creatures (like most birds) with BETTER eyes. How come? Does god love them better than us? NO, they EVOLVED that way because they needed better eyes than humans need. I’ve seen scholarly treatises – you know; papers written by scientists, not preachers – suggesting that sight gives such an advantage to most species that is no eyes existed today, they would evolve in under 400, 000 years, a cosmic blink of an eye.

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  7. Codex says:

    No one with any brains opens a banana from the top.

  8. 11 says:

    “8. Has a point at the top for ease of entry.”

    lol that’s what she said

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