Billions of years ago

Published February 26th, 2008 by Bobby Henderson

“Billions of years ago, a big bang produced a large rock. As the rock cooled, sweet brown liquid formed on it’s surface. As time passed, aluminum formed itself into a can, a lid, and a tab. Millions of years later, red and white paint fell from the sky and formed itself into the words “Coca Cola… 12 fluid ounces.”

Of course my theory is an insult to your intellect, because you know that if the Coca Cola can is made, there must be a maker. If it is designed, there must be a designer. The alternative, that it happened by chance or accident is to move from the intellectual free zone.

Here is another:

“The Banana: The Atheist Nightmare”

Note that the banana…

1. is shaped for the human hand.

2. has a non-slip surface.

3. Has outward indicators of it’s inward contents. Green – too early, yellow – just right, black – too late.

4. Has a tab for removal of it’s wrapper.

5. Is perforated on wrapper.

6. Has a bio-degradable wrapper.

7. Is shaped for the human mouth.

8. Has a point at the top for ease of entry.

9. Is pleasing to the taste buds.

10. Is curved towards the face to make the eating process easy.

To write that the banana happened by accident is even more unintelligent than to write that no one designed the Coca Cola can.

Test 1.

The person who thinks the Coca Cola can has no designer is:

A. Intelligent

B. A fool

C. Has an ulterior motive for denying the obvious

Now the document that I am referring from states that the eye has 40,000,000 nerve endings and focuses it’s muscles approximately 100,000 times a day. and that the eye has a retina that contains approximately 137,000,000 light sensitive cells.

The document continues and states that Charles Darwin stated:

“To suppose that the eye could have been formed by natural selection, seems I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree” Agreed… it does not have the reference recorded so I do not know if this statement is true or false. But let me get to the point at hand.

If man can not create the human eye then how can anyone in their right mind believe that it was created by chance? In fact… man can’t create anything from nothing… we just do not know how to do it. We can re-create, reform, develop… but we can not create one grain of sand from nothing. Yet the human eye… is a mere tiny part of the most sophisticated part of creation – the human body.

Again… another statement which I would have to research and verify if this person actually made this comment:

“George Gallup; “If I could prove God statistically; take the human body alone; the chance that all the functions of the individual would just happen, is a statistical monstrosity.”

Now this statement concerning Albert Einstein. This is confusing… why would this man contradict himself? If he stated this… then every other statement that has been quoted at this forum is invalid because the man appears to be speaking from both sides of his mouth. In this statement Einstein is quoted to have said:

“Everyone who is seriously interested in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the universe – a spirit vastly superior to man, and one in the face of our modest powers must feel humble.”

Test 2:

1. Do you know any building that did not have a builder? Yes? No?

2. Do you know any painting that did not have a painter? Yes? No?

3. Do you know any car that did not have a maker? Yes? No?

If you answered “Yes” to any of those statements… please give details:______________________…

Third analogy:

Could I convince you that I dropped 50 oranges onto the ground and then by chance fell into ten rows of five oranges? Logically, anyone with an intelligent mind might conclude that someone put them there. The odds that ten oranges would fall into a straight line is mind boggling. Let alone ten rows of five.

Test 3

Yes or No 1. From the atom to the universe is there order?

Yes or No 2. Did it happen by accident or must there been an intelligent mind?

3. What are the odds of 50 oranges falling by chance into ten rows of five oranges? ______________________________…

To declare that there is no God is to make an absolute statement. And for an absolute statement to be true; one must have absolute knowledge. Here is another such statement: “There is no gold in China.”

Test 4 What would I need to have for that statement to be true?

A. No knowledge of China?

B. Partial knowledge of China?

C. Absolute knowledge of China?

“C” is the correct answer. In order for the statement to be true, I must know that there is no gold in China.

Likewise; to state that there is no God and to be correct then you are stating that you are omniscient. You must have absolutely certain knowledge that there isn’t one.

Let’s say that a circle contains all the knowledge of the universe. And let’s say that you have an incredible understanding of one percent of all that knowledge. Is it possible that the knowledge you haven’t yet come across, that there might be ample evidence to prove that God does indeed exist?

If you are reasonable, you would have to admit, “Having the limited knowledge I have at present, I believe that there is no God.” In other words, you don’t know if God exists, so you are not an atheist. You are an “agnostic.” You are like a person that looks at a building and doesn’t seem to know if there is a builder.

Test 5 The man who sees a building and doesn’t know if there is a builder is:

A. Intelligent

B. A fool

C. Has an ulterior motive

In summary: There are plenty of things that we have faith in that we do not fully understand. Most of us do not have a complete understanding that when you turned your computer on as to why it worked. You took a step of faith that turning it on… that somehow that it would work. You accept the unseen electrical waves that appear right in front of your eyes when you type your comments here. We do not see the reason for why the messages appear… because the powers that be are invisible to the naked eye. For them to be manifest, we need a monitor… so we can enjoy the experience of this forum.

God is not flesh and blood; He is an eternal Spirit. Immortal and invisible… like the computer waves. He can can not be experienced unless the monitor is turned on. One should approach the Bible in the same way as the monitor. If it works, enjoy it and if it doesn’t, forget it.

Or do you have an ulterior motive? Could it be that the “atheist” can’t find God… as a thief can’t find the policeman? Could it be that your logic is clouding your good judgment?”

-Jonathon



613 Responses to “Billions of years ago”

  1. Otto Von Molestrangler MA (cantab) says:

    Q. Have you stopped beating your wife ? Yes or No

    Pasta in all its forms exists and is seen everyday. That doesnt take faith. String Theory takes faith. The Big Bang is observable. I have an aunt in Barnet. I havent seen her for some time but I know she’s there. But Jehovah, Yahweh, God hmmm. Not sure.

  2. Fred Nurke says:

    HAHAHAHAHA !
    Substitute penis for banana!

  3. Fluff? says:

    i would actually advise you read some dawkins. it really opened my mind on the subject.

  4. Etay says:

    Banana = Bible?
    Hmm.

  5. Descendant Of Bartholomew says:

    I completely agree, I don’t know why there are all these Atheists on this site trying to say He doesn’t exist, isn’t it inescapably plain to see that the great FSM created everything. He was even nice enough to give us something delicious yet healthy in the banana. RAmen

  6. techskeptic says:

    Man I love when these dorks quote mine darwin and einstien. Some of them even quote mine Dawkins as if he actually thinks there is a sky daddy. I dont know why you bother, even a child can see through that. The creationists are so good at quote mining the Bible to make their points they think that this is the correct way to debate.

    First this guy quotes the utterly brain dead Ray Comfort with that banana nonsense. As if that ridiculous Masters of the Way nonsense hasn’t been debunked like a thousand times. I guess the pineapple or artichoke are God’s way of saying get the hell out of here! why would god make only one food with all these seemingly good quality? Why doesnt meat come in a a self sealed envelope? Let me guess, god works in mysterious ways.

    Then you go into the tired old eye argument…its SOOOOO complex that there is no way it could be natural! Because you are the expert on everything there is about the complexities of the eye and since you say its impossible, therefore it is. Look up: argument from incredulity. Its a tired and old fallacy. Human beings HAVE recreated the functionality of an eye, ever hear of a camera? Not only that we have improved on it, we can see into wavelengths that the eye never needed to adapt to. We can see such incredibly small features that we can see individual atoms. So not only does your god make a crappy camera, we have done much better! So much for the idea that complexity requires a god.

    What are the chances you are here writing these utterly inane and easily debunkable arguments? The chances are extremely thin! Wayyyy back, a long time ago out of the millions of people on the planet, a man an woman had to meet, get excited about each other, and make a baby. some time near that event, another couple had to meet, get excited and make a baby. then by strange coincidences, those two babies had to grow up, through all of lifes zig zags and meet, get excited and make a baby, while some time near that time, a completely different set of parents had to meet and make a baby. The chances of this happening each time grew from one in many millions to the changes of this genereation one in six billion. Multiply all those odds together and what do you have? Odds that are too great to imagine to you would actually be sitting there writing a totally obtuse essay with ideas that were debunked over 100 years ago. You are a statistical improbability.

    Your entire post shows an amazing lack of understanding about the evolutionary process and total ignorance and lack of appreciation for the timescale involved. You dont know the different between spontaneity and accumulation. Your letter shows a complete and disgraceful lack of understanding of an atheists point of view i.e. very few say there is no god, but there is certainly no reason to believe in one without satisfactory evidence, you may as well believe in anything…the entire reason this site exists, but you are too bone headed to see that. The reality of FSM is no more and no less rational than your pet God (although a beer volcano is better than anything conceived of in the bible, so perhaps the FSM is a little more likely).

    Your last paragraph is the ultimate in idiocy. We believe our computers turn on because we know that we as a society have developed them. we know that there are smart people who develop them. Who understand the underlying principles. We have evidence that they work. We know the sun rises because we have evidence that the sun has risen for billions of years and the know the mechanism by which that happens. We know that your ‘electrical waves’ (more amazing ignorance) exist because we have observations that they do, formed hypotheses and tested those hypotheses to find that the tests verify the model (forming theories). Now we can directly measure electromagnetic waves directly.

    There is no faith in any of your silly examples, there is observation, hypothesis, test and verification. Something a god bot knows nothing about. If went with your method we would stillb e sitting here in the dark ages with every answer to a question being “Goddidit”. Dead end answers to all of lifes questions.

    Your ignorance is blinding. It makes my brain hurt to read all that stupid in your one post.

  7. Dave says:

    It’s what we’ve always feared…Ray Comfort is contagious.

    Yikes.

  8. Dave says:

    It’s what we’ve always feared – Ray Comfort is *contagious*.

    Yikes.

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