Comments on: While I had originally planned http://www.venganza.org/2008/02/02/while-i-had-originally-planned/ Fri, 19 Mar 2010 05:40:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: harsha http://www.venganza.org/2008/02/02/while-i-had-originally-planned/#comment-626333 harsha Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:57:31 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/02/02/while-i-had-originally-planned.htm#comment-626333 It is Idiotic Design not Intelligent Design... look it up. It is Idiotic Design not Intelligent Design… look it up.

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]]> By: Ntcommie http://www.venganza.org/2008/02/02/while-i-had-originally-planned/#comment-619695 Ntcommie Thu, 11 Sep 2008 00:22:33 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/02/02/while-i-had-originally-planned.htm#comment-619695 Whereas Christianity is just a theory, but with lots of proof. No statements. Whereas Christianity is just a theory, but with lots of proof. No statements.

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]]> By: littleanimal http://www.venganza.org/2008/02/02/while-i-had-originally-planned/#comment-610256 littleanimal Tue, 02 Sep 2008 05:05:49 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/02/02/while-i-had-originally-planned.htm#comment-610256 @Krankes HIrn Supernoodle Theory was that your idea?! In that case I just made my first post purely to salute you :D small vibrating noodles are going to keep me giggling for days @Krankes HIrn

Supernoodle Theory was that your idea?! In that case I just made my first post purely to salute you :D

small vibrating noodles are going to keep me giggling for days

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]]> By: Sean Boyd http://www.venganza.org/2008/02/02/while-i-had-originally-planned/#comment-571473 Sean Boyd Tue, 05 Aug 2008 18:19:49 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/02/02/while-i-had-originally-planned.htm#comment-571473 A walking bread beast WOULD be stupid. A walking bread beast WOULD be stupid.

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]]> By: Kosher Meatballs http://www.venganza.org/2008/02/02/while-i-had-originally-planned/#comment-525450 Kosher Meatballs Mon, 07 Jul 2008 16:55:34 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/02/02/while-i-had-originally-planned.htm#comment-525450 Give the man a cigar. He figured it out. Nice of him to tell us. Give the man a cigar. He figured it out. Nice of him to tell us.

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]]> By: thinker http://www.venganza.org/2008/02/02/while-i-had-originally-planned/#comment-443112 thinker Wed, 14 May 2008 07:44:20 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/02/02/while-i-had-originally-planned.htm#comment-443112 Unfortunately, cross-species reproduction can and does occur all the time. Without it, modern day wheat would not exist, for one... also, horses and donkeys can breed, producing a mule (though mules are sterile). Unfortunately, cross-species reproduction can and does occur all the time. Without it, modern day wheat would not exist, for one… also, horses and donkeys can breed, producing a mule (though mules are sterile).

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]]> By: Earthbreaker http://www.venganza.org/2008/02/02/while-i-had-originally-planned/#comment-405030 Earthbreaker Tue, 22 Apr 2008 23:27:39 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/02/02/while-i-had-originally-planned.htm#comment-405030 If Bobby thought this was real, he wouldn't publish the hate-mail If Bobby and us didn't get so many laughs from reading this, he wouldn't publish the hate-mail If Bobby thought this was real, he wouldn’t publish the hate-mail
If Bobby and us didn’t get so many laughs from reading this, he wouldn’t publish the hate-mail

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]]> By: parker http://www.venganza.org/2008/02/02/while-i-had-originally-planned/#comment-394764 parker Sat, 19 Apr 2008 01:47:29 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/02/02/while-i-had-originally-planned.htm#comment-394764 Yes... That would be the point, sir. Yes… That would be the point, sir.

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]]> By: Bucken http://www.venganza.org/2008/02/02/while-i-had-originally-planned/#comment-391146 Bucken Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:08:55 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/02/02/while-i-had-originally-planned.htm#comment-391146 "A better countervailing viewpoint to atheistic macroevolution’s claims of an eternal universe, abiogenesis, and decent through modification, would be that the universe, earth, and life simply popped into existence uncaused with no explanation. This would actually be a more logical inference based on overwhelming observable evidence such as the big bang theory, the cambrian explosion, Pasteur’s experiments which proved life does not spring from non-living matter and the biological fact that cross species reproduction cannot occur. Furthermore it would not posit a metaphysical explanation for existence as FSMism, Christianity, Judaism, and Islam do, nor would it be in conflict with the known laws of physics, mathematics, historical geology, and biology." Well, I do believe people become decent through modification, yes. Biological fact? Boy, you really are a mule... Oh wait, or was that a cross species offspring from a horse (Equus Caballus) and a donkey(Equus Asinus) "Of course the idea that our universe, earth, and life just popped into existence uncaused, seems as ignorant as believing a walking bread beast did it." ingorance: Viciously attacking one man for the flaws in his beliefs, profusely chosing to ignore the fact that they are equally (if not more so) applicable on himself... Because it all makes sense if someone else did it (i.e. god) Some day, you will be eating diner with your mom and dad, and enlightenment will come to you. Guess what you'll be eating? Yes, it will be Spaghetti “A better countervailing viewpoint to atheistic macroevolution’s claims of an eternal universe, abiogenesis, and decent through modification, would be that the universe, earth, and life simply popped into existence uncaused with no explanation. This would actually be a more logical inference based on overwhelming observable evidence such as the big bang theory, the cambrian explosion, Pasteur’s experiments which proved life does not spring from non-living matter and the biological fact that cross species reproduction cannot occur. Furthermore it would not posit a metaphysical explanation for existence as FSMism, Christianity, Judaism, and Islam do, nor would it be in conflict with the known laws of physics, mathematics, historical geology, and biology.”

Well, I do believe people become decent through modification, yes.

Biological fact? Boy, you really are a mule… Oh wait, or was that a cross species offspring from a horse (Equus Caballus) and a donkey(Equus Asinus)

“Of course the idea that our universe, earth, and life just popped into existence uncaused, seems as ignorant as believing a walking bread beast did it.”

ingorance: Viciously attacking one man for the flaws in his beliefs, profusely chosing to ignore the fact that they are equally (if not more so) applicable on himself…
Because it all makes sense if someone else did it (i.e. god)

Some day, you will be eating diner with your mom and dad, and enlightenment will come to you.
Guess what you’ll be eating?
Yes, it will be Spaghetti

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]]> By: Sir Cweldrik http://www.venganza.org/2008/02/02/while-i-had-originally-planned/#comment-388598 Sir Cweldrik Wed, 16 Apr 2008 08:47:53 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/02/02/while-i-had-originally-planned.htm#comment-388598 The Great Spaghetti Monster is indeed real. I have experienced its validating powers whilst sitting at table on the official sabbath day which is each first Tuesday of the lunar calendar recounted in the Ancient Italians Pastafarian Parchments discovered in my great grandfather's attic. The documents which need to be read with a magnifying electronic microscope in the light of the full moon reveal more of a tubular form of Spaghetti resembling long stringy canelloni, at least in the description of its molecular structure. So far, I have been unable to decipher the machine code used by the Wise Men who left us the Holy Words, but the stylised pictures illuminating the texts show clearly that the Saints of The GSM Church knew exactly what they were doing for eternity. I am founding a charitable organisation which is in need of funds to enlist the help of Ancient Machine Code Scholars which, if sufficient, I will give to the MIT, Cambridge University in the UK and a theological research centre yet to be identified somewhere on this planet. PS: If anyone wishes to organise a crusade, a holy war or just a party, please do not hesitate to create a bank account for the purpose, or better still, a bank. The Great Spaghetti Monster is indeed real. I have experienced its validating powers whilst sitting at table on the official sabbath day which is each first Tuesday of the lunar calendar recounted in the Ancient Italians Pastafarian Parchments discovered in my great grandfather’s attic. The documents which need to be read with a magnifying electronic microscope in the light of the full moon reveal more of a tubular form of Spaghetti resembling long stringy canelloni, at least in the description of its molecular structure. So far, I have been unable to decipher the machine code used by the Wise Men who left us the Holy Words, but the stylised pictures illuminating the texts show clearly that the Saints of The GSM Church knew exactly what they were doing for eternity.

I am founding a charitable organisation which is in need of funds to enlist the help of Ancient Machine Code Scholars which, if sufficient, I will give to the MIT, Cambridge University in the UK and a theological research centre yet to be identified somewhere on this planet.

PS: If anyone wishes to organise a crusade, a holy war or just a party, please do not hesitate to create a bank account for the purpose, or better still, a bank.

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]]> By: Jake Bugiardo http://www.venganza.org/2008/02/02/while-i-had-originally-planned/#comment-385952 Jake Bugiardo Tue, 15 Apr 2008 01:19:54 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/02/02/while-i-had-originally-planned.htm#comment-385952 Actually, an atheists viewpoint is that everything has always existed. In fact, and I fall under this category, anyone that knows anything about the emerging field of study in the universe, it's "creation," how it works, and so on (and if you're interested, I would definitely recommend anything by Hawking,) is all related to the idea of infinity, something many people cannot think of because it goes against humans desire to list everything under cause and effect. The idea right now, for you interested (and I say idea because, in my head, I think everything is some sort of idea or belief [hell, I think they go hand in hand,] in the end,) is that there is a big bang, everything exists for a really long time, stars burn out, turn into black holes, swallow shit, and then the black holes swallow each other, and after a near insurmountable length of time, all the black holes become one giant black hole, and theoretically, when everything is in one place, the black hole collapses from the weight it has in it, implodes, and then another big bang proceeds. The end. Actually, an atheists viewpoint is that everything has always existed. In fact, and I fall under this category, anyone that knows anything about the emerging field of study in the universe, it’s “creation,” how it works, and so on (and if you’re interested, I would definitely recommend anything by Hawking,) is all related to the idea of infinity, something many people cannot think of because it goes against humans desire to list everything under cause and effect.

The idea right now, for you interested (and I say idea because, in my head, I think everything is some sort of idea or belief [hell, I think they go hand in hand,] in the end,) is that there is a big bang, everything exists for a really long time, stars burn out, turn into black holes, swallow shit, and then the black holes swallow each other, and after a near insurmountable length of time, all the black holes become one giant black hole, and theoretically, when everything is in one place, the black hole collapses from the weight it has in it, implodes, and then another big bang proceeds.

The end.

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]]> By: chaos http://www.venganza.org/2008/02/02/while-i-had-originally-planned/#comment-380475 chaos Sun, 13 Apr 2008 09:45:46 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/02/02/while-i-had-originally-planned.htm#comment-380475 Yes, everything has a beginning and an end. However, everything also has preceding and following events. Therefore, stuff must have happened before the formation of the universe; there could not possibly have been an ABSOLUTE beginning because then there would be no preceding events (an absolute beginning would also require a suspension of preservation of matter and energy). The Big Bang theory does not say that the universe popped out of nothing, but that it exploded out of a highly focused bit of matter/energy (it says nothing about how that bit got there; all the evidence was likely wrecked in the explosion). The human mind is the mind that invented the concept of infinity. Infinity itself exists independently of that concept, but we wouldn't be talking about it if your mind were incapable of conceiving it. Buddhism doesn't worship Gods. Yes, everything has a beginning and an end. However, everything also has preceding and following events. Therefore, stuff must have happened before the formation of the universe; there could not possibly have been an ABSOLUTE beginning because then there would be no preceding events (an absolute beginning would also require a suspension of preservation of matter and energy). The Big Bang theory does not say that the universe popped out of nothing, but that it exploded out of a highly focused bit of matter/energy (it says nothing about how that bit got there; all the evidence was likely wrecked in the explosion).

The human mind is the mind that invented the concept of infinity. Infinity itself exists independently of that concept, but we wouldn’t be talking about it if your mind were incapable of conceiving it.

Buddhism doesn’t worship Gods.

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]]> By: James http://www.venganza.org/2008/02/02/while-i-had-originally-planned/#comment-349298 James Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:33:53 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/02/02/while-i-had-originally-planned.htm#comment-349298 Hey, this is satire, gosh quite a few hatemails think that this religion is for real. Hey, this is satire, gosh quite a few hatemails think that this religion is for real.

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]]> By: That1guy http://www.venganza.org/2008/02/02/while-i-had-originally-planned/#comment-346389 That1guy Sat, 29 Mar 2008 12:34:14 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/02/02/while-i-had-originally-planned.htm#comment-346389 Actually some people do believe in the FSM and treat pastafarianism as a true religion Actually some people do believe in the FSM and treat pastafarianism as a true religion

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]]> By: That1guy http://www.venganza.org/2008/02/02/while-i-had-originally-planned/#comment-346388 That1guy Sat, 29 Mar 2008 12:32:58 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/02/02/while-i-had-originally-planned.htm#comment-346388 actually some people really do believe in the FSM and treat pastafarrianism as a true religion. actually some people really do believe in the FSM and treat pastafarrianism as a true religion.

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]]> By: ... http://www.venganza.org/2008/02/02/while-i-had-originally-planned/#comment-320749 ... Tue, 26 Feb 2008 23:57:10 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/02/02/while-i-had-originally-planned.htm#comment-320749 You seem to be missing the point. Pastafarianism is not a religion, it is a tool that was used to make a mockery of the Kansas school board and to prevent children's minds from being warped by their teachers teaching (for that is what teachers do) them the Christian theory of creation. Furthermore, you will note that there is no religion by the name of "Christian" or "Christianity". Christianity is a group of religions that share a common belief in Christ. To say that Christianity is a religion would be saying that Roman Catholics and Baptists get along. You seem to be missing the point. Pastafarianism is not a religion, it is a tool that was used to make a mockery of the Kansas school board and to prevent children’s minds from being warped by their teachers teaching (for that is what teachers do) them the Christian theory of creation. Furthermore, you will note that there is no religion by the name of “Christian” or “Christianity”. Christianity is a group of religions that share a common belief in Christ. To say that Christianity is a religion would be saying that Roman Catholics and Baptists get along.

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]]> By: Anonymous http://www.venganza.org/2008/02/02/while-i-had-originally-planned/#comment-318661 Anonymous Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:56:52 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/02/02/while-i-had-originally-planned.htm#comment-318661 "Of course the idea that our universe, earth, and life just popped into existence uncaused, seems as ignorant as believing a walking bread beast did it." Dude, I DO believe are walking bread beast did it. and i agree: these FSM guys can't be right. Especially with the BETTER theories that WE believe: like the bread beast. “Of course the idea that our universe, earth, and life just popped into existence uncaused, seems as ignorant as believing a walking bread beast did it.”

Dude, I DO believe are walking bread beast did it. and i agree: these FSM guys can’t be right. Especially with the BETTER theories that WE believe: like the bread beast.

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]]> By: John http://www.venganza.org/2008/02/02/while-i-had-originally-planned/#comment-315556 John Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:37:21 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/02/02/while-i-had-originally-planned.htm#comment-315556 Duh! Obviously the religion was created to mock organized religions that exist in the world. It is nothing new. I assure you that the "followers" of this religion are atheists that are trying to prove a point. And they DO have a point. Which is the same point that atheists have had for many years: The fact that we do not know nor have factual proof of the existence of a God, nor do we have factual proof that the Christian God is real. Of course by factual, I mean scientific. I personally choose to believe that there IS a God. Ironically, for very similar reasons than the atheists who don't believe. The FACT that there is an unknown infinite dimension that our dual brain (a brain incapable of measuring concepts like that of infinity, due to not having a logical "limit") cannot comprehend, indicates to me that there is an unknown "something" out there that does comprehend all this. Which I choose to call God. Also, the fact that scientific discoveries have all been made within the capabilities of the human mind. However, there are things that cannot be explained with our mind capabilities because they clash with our human logic. For example, the FACT that everything must have a beginning, and an end. The studied theory of evolution starts at one point, and therefore should end at one point. But, using this logic, it is very hard to situate the "beginning" of time..... as even at that particular moment when humanity was created, there had to be something "before" that. Our logic does NOT comprehend nor visualize a big cement brick if you tried to travel back through time...... there has to be a before.... Always! Or else, what's there? Nothing? Does "nothing" exist? Even if "nothing" exists, and by saying nothing we can imagine an empty place without any matter, or a lapse of time where seconds don't count the same way that they count in this world: Well guess what... even at that particular place or moment of "nothingness", it becomes "something". Because it is something outside of what we know. Just the fact that we attribute it with a name, such as "the unknown", means it is "something". I choose to call it God. That's what makes LOGICAL sense to me. Of course, just with logic, it is not possible to conclude the existence of a Christian God, or a Jewish God, or a Buddhist God.... or the spaghetti monster for that matter.... but the important thing to understand is that neither of the mentioned can be proven or disproven...... Consider that ONE of them COULD be right. That is up to you to decide, based on history and your own faith and beliefs. Duh!
Obviously the religion was created to mock organized religions that exist in the world.
It is nothing new. I assure you that the “followers” of this religion are atheists that are trying to prove a point.
And they DO have a point. Which is the same point that atheists have had for many years: The fact that we do not know nor have factual proof of the existence of a God, nor do we have factual proof that the Christian God is real.
Of course by factual, I mean scientific.
I personally choose to believe that there IS a God. Ironically, for very similar reasons than the atheists who don’t believe. The FACT that there is an unknown infinite dimension that our dual brain (a brain incapable of measuring concepts like that of infinity, due to not having a logical “limit”) cannot comprehend, indicates to me that there is an unknown “something” out there that does comprehend all this. Which I choose to call God.
Also, the fact that scientific discoveries have all been made within the capabilities of the human mind. However, there are things that cannot be explained with our mind capabilities because they clash with our human logic. For example, the FACT that everything must have a beginning, and an end. The studied theory of evolution starts at one point, and therefore should end at one point. But, using this logic, it is very hard to situate the “beginning” of time….. as even at that particular moment when humanity was created, there had to be something “before” that. Our logic does NOT comprehend nor visualize a big cement brick if you tried to travel back through time…… there has to be a before…. Always! Or else, what’s there? Nothing? Does “nothing” exist?
Even if “nothing” exists, and by saying nothing we can imagine an empty place without any matter, or a lapse of time where seconds don’t count the same way that they count in this world: Well guess what… even at that particular place or moment of “nothingness”, it becomes “something”. Because it is something outside of what we know. Just the fact that we attribute it with a name, such as “the unknown”, means it is “something”.
I choose to call it God. That’s what makes LOGICAL sense to me. Of course, just with logic, it is not possible to conclude the existence of a Christian God, or a Jewish God, or a Buddhist God…. or the spaghetti monster for that matter…. but the important thing to understand is that neither of the mentioned can be proven or disproven…… Consider that ONE of them COULD be right. That is up to you to decide, based on history and your own faith and beliefs.

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]]> By: David http://www.venganza.org/2008/02/02/while-i-had-originally-planned/#comment-314519 David Sun, 17 Feb 2008 22:46:38 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/02/02/while-i-had-originally-planned.htm#comment-314519 I had considerable difficulty in understanding what the point of this rant was. I'm still not sure I do. I had considerable difficulty in understanding what the point of this rant was. I’m still not sure I do.

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]]> By: Krankes HIrn http://www.venganza.org/2008/02/02/while-i-had-originally-planned/#comment-313935 Krankes HIrn Sun, 17 Feb 2008 04:05:57 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/02/02/while-i-had-originally-planned.htm#comment-313935 Hey! I study physics at college and many people is talking about string theory as a potential new "theory of everything" The thing is that actually string is just a name given to the most basic composition of everything in the universe (protons, neutrons, etc) because it behaves like a string. But they ain't strings, they are actually noodles. I'm sorry you haven't been touched by his noodly appendage and are unable to see the truth. RAmen. Hey! I study physics at college and many people is talking about string theory as a potential new “theory of everything” The thing is that actually string is just a name given to the most basic composition of everything in the universe (protons, neutrons, etc) because it behaves like a string. But they ain’t strings, they are actually noodles. I’m sorry you haven’t been touched by his noodly appendage and are unable to see the truth.

RAmen.

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