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Public hearings in Florida

Published January 6th, 2008 by Bobby Henderson

evol2.jpgThe Florida State School Board is holding public hearings to talk about changes to science standards.

New standards were written by scientists and educators, but some evangelical Christians want Creationism and Intelligent Design taught as well.

Clearly, this is an issue that concerns us. Are there any Pastafarians in Florida willing to give us a first-hand report?

They’ve held a meeting in Jacksonville already. There’s a meeting in Fort Lauderdale next week.

You can read the article from First Coast News, though it does not say much.

A more informative article: here

*Update*

The meeting in Ft. Lauderdale is scheduled for:

JANUARY 8TH from 5:30-7:30pm at Everglades High School

Can anyone make it? A prize to anyone who shows up in pirate regalia and asks – respectfully – if the new standards will be inclusive of the beliefs of Pastafarians.



55 Responses to “Public hearings in Florida”

  1. Wench Nikkiee says:

    ☠DutchPastaGuy☠
    I thought you might like to pass this link on to PB….
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    The Clergy Letter Project Presents Evolution Sunday 2007
    “We the undersigned, Christian clergy from many different traditions, believe that the timeless truths of the Bible and the discoveries of modern science may comfortably coexist. We believe that the theory of evolution is a foundational scientific truth, one that has stood up to rigorous scrutiny and upon which much of human knowledge and achievement rests. To reject this truth or to treat it as “one theory among others” is to deliberately embrace scientific ignorance and transmit such ignorance to our children.”
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    http://www.butler.edu/clergyproject/rel_evol_sun2007.htm
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    For some reason declarations such as this seem to really upset the loving and peaceful YECs/IDiots who hold that everyones beliefs should stand equal! (:p)

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    };-)
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    I’d do it myself except I’ve got my hands fill of PBs all over the place at the mo. I do have my favourites though! :)

  2. Pluto says:

    @Jennyanydots-
    “Just wondering – how many supporters might you pick up in the mid-atlantic?”
    Well I was willing to make a few detours via Europe and I was going to sail across to south Central America and pick up Pam, before cutting up to Florida. I wouldn’t be too surprised to find some supporters on route, maybe a rebellious star fish or two or an atheist kipper.
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    “Quite happy to help crew but the idea of loyal crew seems a little alien. Do you really expect we wouldn’t mutiny on route?”
    I would have a large supply of rum and weed in the hold, so you would all be “off your tits” and therefore too fucked to mutiny. On the down side we might end up making a few more detours for aspirin and munchies.
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    @Cardinal Fang
    “Do we have an e-mail address we can write to if we’re the wrong side of the Atlantic?” No need. We will cruse up the cost looking out for signal fires and FSM/Pirate fish flags.
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    @rmw- Monster trucks! Monster trucks! Woooooooo!

  3. Jennyanydots says:

    @ Wench Nikkiee – oh, please can we mutiny – it sounds like so much fun. And this way we can keep Captain Pluto slightly wary – we don’t want him getting corrupted by power and trying to keel-haul anyone.

  4. ☠DutchPastaGuy☠ says:

    @Wench Nikkiee
    Thanks for that link. The BBC blog is having great technical difficulty at the moment, but once that gets up and running again I’ll slip it in somewhere. While you’re helping out against the pbs elsewhere I’ll take care of my local favourite. With able help from DD, and even wonderkin has started lusting after pb now. Hehehehe.

  5. iwishyouwouldlearntoreadafarian says:

    To the Board:
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    Although I do not live in Florida, it is discouraging to see that members of your board will vote against evolution if Intelligent Design is not taught as well. Intelligent Design is not science and does not belong in a science class. Members are allowing their religious views to cloud their decision making process to deem what is science. Additionally, your religious views are preventing you from understanding the term “theory” when applied to science.
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    “In science, a theory is a mathematical or logical explanation, or a testable model of the manner of interaction of a set of natural phenomena, capable of predicting future occurrences or observations of the same kind, and capable of being tested through experiment or otherwise falsified through empirical observation. It follows from this that for scientists “theory” and “fact” do not necessarily stand in opposition. For example, it is a fact that an apple dropped on earth has been observed to fall towards the center of the planet, and the theories commonly used to describe and explain this behavior are Newton’s theory of universal gravitation (see also gravitation), and general relativity.”
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    Scientific theory is also a hypothesis that is widely accepted by the scientific community.
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    Intelligent Design does not meet either of these criteria’s and therefore it is considered metaphysical science.
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    The other issue I have with Intelligent Design is that it stems from the Discovery Institute which is a Christian based organization. If that is not an example of religious bias I don’t know what else is.
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    Another issue I have is the boards misunderstanding of evolution.
    In an article Callaway states:
    State Board of Education member Donna Callaway says she’ll be voting against the proposed new state science standards because evolution “should not be taught to the exclusion of other theories of origin of life” and says she hopes “there will be times of prayer throughout Christian homes and churches directed toward this issue.”
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    When Callaway stated: evolution “should not be taught to the exclusion of other theories of origin of life” , this clearly shows her lack of understanding and maybe should study the subject again. Evolution DOES NOT try to explain how life started. Maybe this is why Christians have such a hard time with evolution because they are uneducated in the subject. In simple terms evolution uses natural selection or those traits passed on to future generations that allow a species to survive and adapt to its environment. It absolutely does not state anything about GOD not existing or not creating the world. Who knows, God could have created the world and uses natural selection as one of its mechanisms.
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    Intelligent Design tries to use irreducible complexity as a basis for a designer. However irreducible complexity is generally dismissed by the scientific community. Furthermore, Michael Behe’s example of irreducible complexity has been disproved and shows nothing more than his misunderstanding of the subject.
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    I am not saying not to have your belief systems, but religious views (Intelligent Design is religious based even if it does not mention God) should be kept out of science class. If you want it taught in an elective religion class then by all means teach it. Even then, you get into which version of Intelligent Design. I will assume by your religious belief it would be the Judeo-Christian view. That is not the only view and that will be another battle because there are many more such as Islamic, Buddhist, FSM, IPU, etc.. No matter how far fetch some may seem they are easily just as plausible because under Intelligent Design you cannot disapprove any of them.
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    In closing, leave religious views such as Intelligent Design, creationism to be taught by parents, Churches, Synagogues or teachers in elective religion classes.
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    Thank you,
    Michael

  6. Pacific Pam says:

    @Pluto – Awwwww…you are so sweet!
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    You forgot about the Pasta, we need tons of pasta and water…I can’t drink rum while stoned.
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    Some board games too! Maybe UNO and Monopoly and Scrabble…

  7. Von Haus says:

    Pluto
    This must be done, and i feel it as my duty to our god, to offer my services to your crew.
    Rum, weed, pasta and piracy, what morre do you need? The HMS Victory shall be ours, we will take the British across the wates and bring pasta to the heathens of florida.
    Now i just need to remember where i left my cutlass…

  8. TIGERdanceBOT says:

    Could help but notice how much DNA looks like SPAGHETTI. If you look at that evolution image, it could easily be two strands of spaghetti.

    We all truly do have the creator within us. We are made by and of the creator, in His image.

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