Comments on: I came across your site http://www.venganza.org/2008/01/30/i-came-across-your-site.htm Fri, 04 Jul 2008 20:44:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2 By: rogthedodge http://www.venganza.org/2008/01/30/i-came-across-your-site.htm#comment-510305 rogthedodge Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:17:25 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/01/30/i-came-across-your-site.htm#comment-510305 You're living for Jesus? I'm dying for spaghetti! It's great to have a faith and let it rule every aspect of your life isn't it?? You’re living for Jesus?

I’m dying for spaghetti!

It’s great to have a faith and let it rule every aspect of your life isn’t it??

]]> By: Memoriam http://www.venganza.org/2008/01/30/i-came-across-your-site.htm#comment-464238 Memoriam Tue, 27 May 2008 01:33:05 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/01/30/i-came-across-your-site.htm#comment-464238 Yes, anyone CAN make up a religion. That's kind of the point, genius. Yes, anyone CAN make up a religion. That’s kind of the point, genius.

]]> By: Irate Pirate http://www.venganza.org/2008/01/30/i-came-across-your-site.htm#comment-350429 Irate Pirate Tue, 01 Apr 2008 12:19:26 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/01/30/i-came-across-your-site.htm#comment-350429 Well, your right about one thing. Anyone can make up a Religion, *cough Christianity. Our god didnt have to die for our sins. and, whew, he died for 3 days, but then came back to life? Do you think zombie's are real too? Im sick of people saying, "well prove god doesnt exist." it is the most aggrivating line ever uttered. If there is no proof to say something exist's then it should be considered that it does not exist. Take Superman for instance. There are Countless books written about him, how can you say for a fact that he doesnt exist. Prove he doesnt exist. And dont say he doesnt exist because what he does is physically impossible, cause im fairly certain coming back to life and being able to pass through all matter, along with being invisble is impossible. Prove to me that he or the Flying Spaghetti Monster doesnt exist. Well, your right about one thing. Anyone can make up a Religion, *cough Christianity. Our god didnt have to die for our sins. and, whew, he died for 3 days, but then came back to life? Do you think zombie’s are real too? Im sick of people saying, “well prove god doesnt exist.” it is the most aggrivating line ever uttered. If there is no proof to say something exist’s then it should be considered that it does not exist. Take Superman for instance. There are Countless books written about him, how can you say for a fact that he doesnt exist. Prove he doesnt exist. And dont say he doesnt exist because what he does is physically impossible, cause im fairly certain coming back to life and being able to pass through all matter, along with being invisble is impossible. Prove to me that he or the Flying Spaghetti Monster doesnt exist.

]]> By: pg http://www.venganza.org/2008/01/30/i-came-across-your-site.htm#comment-348536 pg Mon, 31 Mar 2008 05:42:36 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/01/30/i-came-across-your-site.htm#comment-348536 "What is your authority to say how things started?" Then i must ask this kind person. What is your authority to say how things started? “What is your authority to say how things started?”

Then i must ask this kind person. What is your authority to say how things started?

]]> By: Cap'n Wolf http://www.venganza.org/2008/01/30/i-came-across-your-site.htm#comment-348440 Cap'n Wolf Mon, 31 Mar 2008 04:06:32 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/01/30/i-came-across-your-site.htm#comment-348440 Right on, Fussilier. Right on, Fussilier.

]]> By: Alex http://www.venganza.org/2008/01/30/i-came-across-your-site.htm#comment-347837 Alex Sun, 30 Mar 2008 15:50:01 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/01/30/i-came-across-your-site.htm#comment-347837 Captain Joe - they don't actually mean that. What they mean (and someone correct me if I'm wrong, all I have to go on is primary school teachings) is that when Jesus died, he basically took the blame for all the bad things that Man did before he died, so it was like a clean slate after he died. Captain Joe - they don’t actually mean that. What they mean (and someone correct me if I’m wrong, all I have to go on is primary school teachings) is that when Jesus died, he basically took the blame for all the bad things that Man did before he died, so it was like a clean slate after he died.

]]> By: Ender wigin http://www.venganza.org/2008/01/30/i-came-across-your-site.htm#comment-347693 Ender wigin Sun, 30 Mar 2008 13:33:14 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/01/30/i-came-across-your-site.htm#comment-347693 Ahhhh, my favourite christian technique. Showing quotes from the bible themed: Listen to me. not that guy, no me. As we dont belive in his god, or the nonsensical ramblings of long forgotten prophets, telling exactly where in thier great book of nonsense certain lies can be found, wastes everyones time. Ahhhh, my favourite christian technique. Showing quotes from the bible themed:
Listen to me. not that guy, no me.
As we dont belive in his god, or the nonsensical ramblings of long forgotten prophets, telling exactly where in thier great book of nonsense certain lies can be found, wastes everyones time.

]]> By: Captain Joe http://www.venganza.org/2008/01/30/i-came-across-your-site.htm#comment-342023 Captain Joe Wed, 26 Mar 2008 14:40:34 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/01/30/i-came-across-your-site.htm#comment-342023 Actually, thats something i never understood about Christianity. They say "Jesus died so we could live". In what way? Would the universe just have exploded or something if he didn't die for us? Actually, thats something i never understood about Christianity. They say “Jesus died so we could live”.

In what way? Would the universe just have exploded or something if he didn’t die for us?

]]> By: Atticus Finch http://www.venganza.org/2008/01/30/i-came-across-your-site.htm#comment-338803 Atticus Finch Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:17:41 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/01/30/i-came-across-your-site.htm#comment-338803 Honestly, religion has no authority as realistic. It is the human idea of metaphysical order in which some deity constructed everything. Quite frankly, nothing can prove or disprove such ideas because the very core concept of this idea is that no one can even comprehend it. Its a giant paradox that just pisses off a lot of people. Honestly, religion has no authority as realistic. It is the human idea of metaphysical order in which some deity constructed everything. Quite frankly, nothing can prove or disprove such ideas because the very core concept of this idea is that no one can even comprehend it. Its a giant paradox that just pisses off a lot of people.

]]> By: Irate Pirate http://www.venganza.org/2008/01/30/i-came-across-your-site.htm#comment-333054 Irate Pirate Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:50:39 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/01/30/i-came-across-your-site.htm#comment-333054 What is our authority to say how things started, i will answer that as soon as you tell me what yours is. Our religion isn't more "silly" then yours. And, if your religion is "right." and your book is factual, which i highly doubt, then you need not care what we do for we shall, by worshiping a "false" Prophet, bring destruction apon ourselves. Or.... mabye we're are right and you are wrong. Did that thought ever cross your mind.. How is your book more factual then ours? How is your god more real then our. Just cause our god desides to look like a tasty food he made for us? What is our authority to say how things started, i will answer that as soon as you tell me what yours is. Our religion isn’t more “silly” then yours. And, if your religion is “right.” and your book is factual, which i highly doubt, then you need not care what we do for we shall, by worshiping a “false” Prophet, bring destruction apon ourselves. Or…. mabye we’re are right and you are wrong. Did that thought ever cross your mind.. How is your book more factual then ours? How is your god more real then our. Just cause our god desides to look like a tasty food he made for us?

]]> By: Hans http://www.venganza.org/2008/01/30/i-came-across-your-site.htm#comment-329806 Hans Sun, 09 Mar 2008 06:55:59 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/01/30/i-came-across-your-site.htm#comment-329806 If this "religion" will exist more then 2000 years and the "founder" will write a FSM bible we´ll see. Cant see why christians rants up genesis this ,luke :69 that ,adam:3666 , FSM a pegan god? is his noodleness teachings false? Would you apply the same retorical verbalism to judaism? Islam? Hindus ? buhdists ? taoists or some poor shinto priest? And how can it be to belive in his noodleness = youre a mental paitent according to some and when you belive in a invisible man in the sky youre conciderd...normal? please i say wait 2000 years and youll see whos the nutter. Praise his noodleness! If this “religion” will exist more then 2000 years and the “founder” will write a FSM bible we´ll see.
Cant see why christians rants up genesis this ,luke :69 that ,adam:3666 , FSM a pegan god? is his noodleness teachings false?
Would you apply the same retorical verbalism to judaism? Islam? Hindus ? buhdists ? taoists or some poor shinto priest?
And how can it be to belive in his noodleness = youre a mental paitent according to some
and when you belive in a invisible man in the sky youre conciderd…normal? please i say wait 2000
years and youll see whos the nutter.

Praise his noodleness!

]]> By: Bos'n C Otter http://www.venganza.org/2008/01/30/i-came-across-your-site.htm#comment-327143 Bos'n C Otter Thu, 06 Mar 2008 12:39:54 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/01/30/i-came-across-your-site.htm#comment-327143 "Also, how can you then get to Heaven? How are we saved? Why are we in the mess, that we are?" Why is it the primary goal of Christians to try and escape to heaven? Dont you think that any reasonable God would like you to at least attempt clean up the mess we made? The Holiness that is the Flying Spaghetti monster would ask you to help and fix this world. Not blow it off and run away. Praise to his Noodleness! “Also, how can you then get to Heaven? How are we saved? Why are we in the mess, that we are?”

Why is it the primary goal of Christians to try and escape to heaven?
Dont you think that any reasonable God would like you to at least attempt clean up the mess we made?
The Holiness that is the Flying Spaghetti monster would ask you to help and fix this world. Not blow it off and run away.

Praise to his Noodleness!

]]> By: Jackie http://www.venganza.org/2008/01/30/i-came-across-your-site.htm#comment-326759 Jackie Thu, 06 Mar 2008 02:06:22 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/01/30/i-came-across-your-site.htm#comment-326759 Hi Joel, In a page full of so many petty and spiteful letters, it's nice to find one that's polite and calm (and grammatically correct)! What you wrote about needing an authority is interesting, and if you'd like to read some classic thinking along those lines, try An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding by David Hume, and especially chapter 10, which you can find at http://18th.eserver.org/hume-enquiry.html#10. It's an interesting read and not at all "silly", to use your term-- not a meatball in the whole thing. Hume talks a lot about authorities who "say how things started", and I think you might find his perspective interesting. It's not from "these days"-- Hume wrote it in 1748. His basic point, though, is this: you get your ideas on religion handed down from people. So do we. Have you ever played telephone? Messages tend to get more garbled over time, not less. Just because a religious revelation is older doesn't mean it's automatically "better" somehow. As to how to get to heaven-- I'm still not sure there is a heaven (I'd have to just take people's word on it), but if there is, most religions worldwide agree that generally being nice to people is a good first step. In fact, that's about the best agreed upon idea among religious persons of all denominations: being nice is a good way to get any existing deity/deities to like you. And pastafarians support the whole be-nice-to-each-other thing: we're non-violent and like good food! So we agree on that fundamental point, I think. And, hey, in terms of "being in a mess": your religion has had 2,000 years to try to fix things. We've had three. Has there been a dramatic world decline since 2005? Living as best I know how, Jackie Hi Joel,

In a page full of so many petty and spiteful letters, it’s nice to find one that’s polite and calm (and grammatically correct)! What you wrote about needing an authority is interesting, and if you’d like to read some classic thinking along those lines, try An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding by David Hume, and especially chapter 10, which you can find at http://18th.eserver.org/hume-enquiry.html#10. It’s an interesting read and not at all “silly”, to use your term– not a meatball in the whole thing. Hume talks a lot about authorities who “say how things started”, and I think you might find his perspective interesting. It’s not from “these days”– Hume wrote it in 1748. His basic point, though, is this: you get your ideas on religion handed down from people. So do we. Have you ever played telephone? Messages tend to get more garbled over time, not less. Just because a religious revelation is older doesn’t mean it’s automatically “better” somehow. As to how to get to heaven– I’m still not sure there is a heaven (I’d have to just take people’s word on it), but if there is, most religions worldwide agree that generally being nice to people is a good first step. In fact, that’s about the best agreed upon idea among religious persons of all denominations: being nice is a good way to get any existing deity/deities to like you. And pastafarians support the whole be-nice-to-each-other thing: we’re non-violent and like good food! So we agree on that fundamental point, I think.

And, hey, in terms of “being in a mess”: your religion has had 2,000 years to try to fix things. We’ve had three. Has there been a dramatic world decline since 2005?

Living as best I know how,
Jackie

]]> By: James D http://www.venganza.org/2008/01/30/i-came-across-your-site.htm#comment-322032 James D Thu, 28 Feb 2008 15:18:22 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/01/30/i-came-across-your-site.htm#comment-322032 Your proposal is just plain silly, how are you and an (approximately) 2000 year old book in any position to say how things started? The FSM was never pissed at us, so we didn’t need to be saved, as long as we are not a-wholes we get into heaven believing or not, FSM is more forging than your god so get off our backs, stop quoting an old book and actually think for yourself for once. James D King of Pirates Your proposal is just plain silly, how are you and an (approximately) 2000 year old book in any position to say how things started?
The FSM was never pissed at us, so we didn’t need to be saved, as long as we are not a-wholes we get into heaven believing or not, FSM is more forging than your god so get off our backs, stop quoting an old book and actually think for yourself for once.
James D King of Pirates

]]> By: Paul The Burptist http://www.venganza.org/2008/01/30/i-came-across-your-site.htm#comment-319950 Paul The Burptist Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:03:17 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/01/30/i-came-across-your-site.htm#comment-319950 "Anyone can make up a religion these days." Hey he's right. I just made up one about worshiping your socks. And another one about standing on your head on Tuesdays. This is fun!!! Everyone should try it. “Anyone can make up a religion these days.” Hey he’s right. I just made up one about worshiping your socks. And another one about standing on your head on Tuesdays. This is fun!!! Everyone should try it.

]]> By: Markus http://www.venganza.org/2008/01/30/i-came-across-your-site.htm#comment-319562 Markus Mon, 25 Feb 2008 03:35:51 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/01/30/i-came-across-your-site.htm#comment-319562 What is OUR authority to make up a religion? What was JESUS' authority to make up a religion? Do you need a special religion-making license? Because I will certainly check in with local law officials if we do. What is OUR authority to make up a religion? What was JESUS’ authority to make up a religion? Do you need a special religion-making license? Because I will certainly check in with local law officials if we do.

]]> By: Cameron http://www.venganza.org/2008/01/30/i-came-across-your-site.htm#comment-319539 Cameron Mon, 25 Feb 2008 02:58:37 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/01/30/i-came-across-your-site.htm#comment-319539 'Jesus Christ died for us, so that we could have life' No Jesus Christ died because he was a nutter who belived he was the son of God 'Anyone can make up a religion these days. What you propose to people is just silly. Lets be real here.' Imagine there was no religion, then someone created a religion where an all mighty being created the world in seven days, made a sacred garden, made a man called adam then made a woman called eve with adams rib. Then banished the only two humans in existence from his sacred garden for eating an apple, got sick of the world so he flooded it but told a man to build a big boat and take two of every animal on and knocked up a virgin (respect) A person who could come up with that should get locked up The Flying Spaghetti Monster doesn't seem so silly now, eh? RAmen ‘Jesus Christ died for us, so that we could have life’

No Jesus Christ died because he was a nutter who belived he was the son of God

‘Anyone can make up a religion these days. What you propose to people is just silly. Lets be real here.’

Imagine there was no religion, then someone created a religion where an all mighty being created the world in seven days, made a sacred garden, made a man called adam then made a woman called eve with adams rib. Then banished the only two humans in existence from his sacred garden for eating an apple, got sick of the world so he flooded it but told a man to build a big boat and take two of every animal on and knocked up a virgin (respect)

A person who could come up with that should get locked up

The Flying Spaghetti Monster doesn’t seem so silly now, eh?

RAmen

]]> By: Ramenlover http://www.venganza.org/2008/01/30/i-came-across-your-site.htm#comment-318317 Ramenlover Sat, 23 Feb 2008 03:04:30 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/01/30/i-came-across-your-site.htm#comment-318317 Wow, I was just going to say the exact same thing. Right on, Fusillier! Wow, I was just going to say the exact same thing. Right on, Fusillier!

]]> By: dogaro http://www.venganza.org/2008/01/30/i-came-across-your-site.htm#comment-317095 dogaro Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:29:31 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/01/30/i-came-across-your-site.htm#comment-317095 'What is your authority to say how things started? I ask because we must go back to some authority in which we can say such things.' What's Christianity's authority? No evidence supports its claim that the universe was produced by some god. It's assumptions aren't based on anything more reliable than human imagination. At least our story is entertaining. 'Jesus Christ died for us, so that we could have life.' I'm not sure about this, but I <i>think</i> people lived before Jesus died. If you're referring to the afterlife I refer you to my previous comment. ‘What is your authority to say how things started? I ask because we must go back to some authority in which we can say such things.’
What’s Christianity’s authority? No evidence supports its claim that the universe was produced by some god. It’s assumptions aren’t based on anything more reliable than human imagination. At least our story is entertaining.

‘Jesus Christ died for us, so that we could have life.’
I’m not sure about this, but I think people lived before Jesus died. If you’re referring to the afterlife I refer you to my previous comment.

]]> By: Jenny http://www.venganza.org/2008/01/30/i-came-across-your-site.htm#comment-316845 Jenny Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:09:22 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/01/30/i-came-across-your-site.htm#comment-316845 Why is it that so many people feel the need to insult His noodley goodness? Who is to say that there is "God"? You support your cause with a biased old book. Quote all the nonsense from there you want. This is a website for people who don't believe in your "God". You can't convince anyone with that bull you call "the word of God". No, I do not hate "God" either. I just refuse to believe is almighty power over my life when he has done nothing for me and, therefore, I will not devote my short, precious life to his pathetic cult. Yes, I just called your religion a cult, just like so many of you people call mine. Hopefully you will be touched by His noodley appendage. Believe FSM. Why is it that so many people feel the need to insult His noodley goodness?
Who is to say that there is “God”?

You support your cause with a biased old book.
Quote all the nonsense from there you want.
This is a website for people who don’t believe in your “God”.
You can’t convince anyone with that bull you call “the word of God”.

No, I do not hate “God” either.
I just refuse to believe is almighty power over my life when he has done nothing for me and, therefore, I will not devote my short, precious life to his pathetic cult.

Yes, I just called your religion a cult, just like so many of you people call mine.

Hopefully you will be touched by His noodley appendage.

Believe FSM.

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