I came across your site through Answers in Genesis. I have a couple of comments to make.Anyone can make up a religion these days. What you propose to people is just silly. Lets be real here.
What is your authority to say how things started? I ask because we must go back to some authority in which we can say such things. Also, how can you then get to Heaven? How are we saved? Why are we in the mess, that we are?
Jesus Christ died for us, so that we could have life. Can you say the same thing about your “God”?
2Pe 2:1
But false prophets arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. 1 These false teachers 2 will 3 infiltrate your midst 4 with destructive heresies, 5 even to the point of 6 denying the Master who bought them. As a result, they will bring 7 swift destruction on themselves.2Pe 2:2
And many will follow their debauched lifestyles. 1 Because of these false teachers, 2 the way of truth will be slandered. 32Pe 2:19
Although these false teachers promise 1 such people 2 freedom, they themselves are enslaved to 3 immorality. 4 For whatever a person succumbs to, to that he is enslaved. 57:13 “Enter through the narrow gate, because the gate is wide and the way is spacious that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it. 7:14 But the gate is narrow and the way is difficult that leads to life, and there are few who find it.
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Joel
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An elaborate spoof on Intelligent Design, The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is neither too elaborate nor too spoofy to succeed in nailing the fallacies of ID. It's even wackier than Jonathan Swift's suggestion that the Irish eat their children as a way to keep them from being a burden, and it may offend just as many people, but Henderson, described elsewhere as a 25-year-old "out-of-work physics major," puts satire to the same serious use that Swift did. Oh, yes, it is very funny. -- Scientific American
Quoting bible verses at non-Christians. That’s gonna work, eh?
“Anyone can make up a religion these days.”
Anyone can make up a religion at any point in time. You don’t know how Catholicism really could have started.
“How can you then get to Heaven?” I believe that The FSM swoops down and embraces us in his noodley appendages and carries us to Heaven. It’s all quite logical. Once we are taken to Heaven we can enjoy the beer volcano and the stripper factory. It beats bouncing around on fluffy clouds and playing a harp. I can’t play a harp. It’s got too many strings. I can play a kazoo. I’ll bet the FSM is okay with a kazoo.
I came across your site through Answers in Genesis. I have a couple of comments to make.
Thanks for looking
Anyone can make up a religion these days. What you propose to people is just silly. Lets be real here.
Who said we weren’t being real?
What is your authority to say how things started?
What is yours?
I ask because we must go back to some authority in which we can say such things.
who says?
Also, how can you then get to Heaven?
By honoring the holy FSM
How are we saved?
By living a good life
Why are we in the mess, that we are?
Well, not knowing where to put a comma could be part of teh cause…..
Jesus Christ died for us, so that we could have life. Can you say the same thing about your “God”?
Ummm…. Yeah
People have been on earth for millions of years
there has been life on earth for millions of years
Please explain to me how in 2000 years we got everything we have now
and no, Because my god is holy in that he doesnt need to die to be holy
2Pe 2:1
But false prophets arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. 1 These false teachers 2 will 3 infiltrate your midst 4 with destructive heresies, 5 even to the point of 6 denying the Master who bought them. As a result, they will bring 7 swift destruction on themselves.
2Pe 2:2
And many will follow their debauched lifestyles. 1 Because of these false teachers, 2 the way of truth will be slandered. 3
2Pe 2:19
Although these false teachers promise 1 such people 2 freedom, they themselves are enslaved to 3 immorality. 4 For whatever a person succumbs to, to that he is enslaved. 5
7:13 “Enter through the narrow gate, because the gate is wide and the way is spacious that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it. 7:14 But the gate is narrow and the way is difficult that leads to life, and there are few who find it.
awww, how cute
Use a good book
Living For Jesus
Joel
Joel is just sad.
Anyone can make up a religion these days. Also, anyone could make up a religion 2000 years ago. Who says yours is better than ours?
Circular logic much? Honestly… your entire argument relies first on the premise that the bible is right… so… your argument is “the bible says if you don’t believe the words in the bible, you go to hell”… yeah… that’s not at all circular.
Bleh, there’s nothing to say your religion is “better” or “more right” or “more made up” than ours, any logical fallacy you can present, I can present an equally invalid one in support of his Noodlyness. I’m sorry, but your argument fails. RAmen.
Andrew
I must ask you this:
What is YOUR authority to say how things started?
There is not a book as falsifiable as the Bible
and thats your source of whats right? A book of lies and errors?
If “Jesus” died so that we could have life, what happened to every human that lived and died “Before Christ”? Where did they come from, where did they go? There’s real evidence that we were here before the bible says we were supposed to be. Also, I love that he capitalized the G in “God” when reffering to The Flying Spaghetti Monster.
You need his noodly goodness to cleanse your wicked wicked soul. Only through his divine buttery touch will you find the happiness and freedom. ‘Our’ noodly master was boiled in water for 15 minutes, can your God claim that? And he had hot meat sauce poured upon his divine countenance. He went through hell for us, and for YOU! Pastafarianism is every bit as valid as ID.
Find your noodly master, before it is too late.
Joel,
Christianity vs FSM in silliness. I would have to think Christianity wins that one.
1. Most of you are cafeteria Christians, you pick and choose what you want. Calling our religion silly is going against your own teachings.
2. No one has ever died in the name of FSM , you can’t say the same for your religion.
3. Jesus was a Jew and Jews don’t believe he died on the cross. The silly thing is if the Old Testament is right and the Jews are the chosen ones, how can the New Testament be correct? It can’t be, it was written by man not God. To think otherwise is silly.
4. Quoting scripture means absolutely nothing since you already contradicted your beliefs by making fun of us.
5. If you believe every word in the Bible then you believe the Earth is only 6000 years old and the sun revolves around the earth. That is silly.
Christians in the beginning were thought to pagans and if not for the Roman Emperor who needed forgiveness for killing his wife and child, I doubt Christianity would have exploded.
6. You highest religious leaders commit immoral acts all the time against children, taking contributions from the people to support lavish lifestyles, so it is silly to say we are immoral.
7. Everything you quoted means nothing to Christians because most of them violate that. Let me guess, just ask for forgiveness and your good again. Silly.
Joel, faith is fine but blind faith is just plain silly!
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Well it is all very interesting.
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First you say that anyone can start a religion today. Well it was true two thousand years ago, as I know.
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Then you try to say that atheism and other religions are immoral and not good and etc. But well you take it from the textbook that started your religion. So what? It is sure that the bible will defend its interest. And you ask how we can get to heaven, admitting a priori that it exists, like if it was something obvious. Basing yourself upon the textbook of a religion to make a point about it is the silly thing in there, don’t you think?
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So, let’s be real, ok? Us people are all like you on the moral side and everything, it’s just that we are not afraid of burning in hell for we do not believe it exists. For FSM it is about stale beer. And also, diversify your readings, for there is not only the bible in libraries.
“Anyone can make up a religion these days.”
Exactly just as they made up religions back on these days.
“What is your authority to say how things started?”
Pretty much the same as your authority.
“Jesus Christ died for us, so that we could have life. Can you say the same thing about your God?”
No, the FSM doesn’t hold us to ransom. He doesn’t expect us to believe in him or else. In fact he doesn’t really care whether you believe in him or not, he’s bigger than petty human emotions which your “God” seems to wallow in with quite distinctly human abandon.
well at least he’s more civil than most. i respect you joel for
a) actually bothering to read the bible enough to know what quotes help your case, or at least looking them up;
b) not swearing;
c) not immediately condemning us all to hell for being heretics, like most people do
I think a bowl of pasta is in order for this moderately enlightened soul. rAmen!
Well, at least you get brownie points for having a basic knowledge of the english language, Joel. Here, have a cookie.
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Why Jesus dying is something to be admired I’ll never understand. First of all, he came back to life. His death was neither final nor meaningful, since his sacrifice depends on him actually sacrificing something. Second of all, he “died“ to forgive original sin. Now, see, this is the part where I just really don’t get the heroism. Jesus is God or God send Jesus (you people just can’t make up your mind about that), so he can spill his innocent blood to forgive our sin. If he wanted to forgive us, why didn’t he simply DO that? He is supposedly omnipotent after all. The implication here is that an innocent has to die to absolve the guilty. Which is the equivalent of bringing a human sacrifice in form of, say, burning a virgin alive to please the gods.
Christians – claiming moral high ground since a human sacrifice was nailed to a cross.
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I’ll stick to my pasta, thank you very much. May his noodly appendage guide you to the Truth.
I guess you have to be a mass murderer like Constantine or just really horny like Henry the 8th to actually have some authority…
Bobby, you have to get a better attitude if you want this thing to really take off… I have said it before and I’ll say it again. To have religious authority in western culture you HAVE to start killing people who disagree with you (and not just one at a time, I mean solid mass murder on a large scale is how you gain authority to say things like “who god is”). Our religion I suppose could take off in the way Buddhism did, by simply making sense… but until you threaten to punish people with torture and death the way the Christians did it, you just are not going to have any authority to design a religion for you own personal gain (again the way the Christians did) and have western culture take to it.
I think this guy makes a very valid point… we really need to work on the whole authority thing by starting the scare people rather than just using logic, since logic only works for the 40% with an IQ higher than 110 who can actually grasp the idea of logical reasoning. To really hit the masses and gain the majority, George Bush proves again that in American society it takes a psychotic nut job in it ONLY for personal gain (and while Bobby does get a lot of personal wealth from this, he is not in it ONLY for that reason, which is why we are still falling short in the authority department… we need to find a way for ALL of us preaching will profit in a huge way like the evangelicals if we are really going to take off in this country). We have to have the ability to scare people with lies to REALLY rally the masses and win the hearts at the bottom of the brain pool, so they will teach their kids as though the FSM is just fact so that they won’t doubt (and be burned at the stake for it), and then their kids (like this guy) who actually believe will be safe from our persecution and torture… I mean THAT is the way to kick start a religion if history tells us anything.
@Fiesta42
“Wow! Answers in Genesis has a link to this site? You can’t buy that kind of great advertising!”
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Here is the link:
http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/2008/01/22/flying-spaghetti-monster
“7:13 “Enter through the narrow gate, because the gate is wide and the way is spacious that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it. 7:14 But the gate is narrow and the way is difficult that leads to life, and there are few who find it.”
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I’m confused…lets call the narrow gate “Gate A” and the not so narrow gate “Gate B”. Is it the situation that fewer folks find Gate A on account of it being “narrower”…er…less spacious… or was it simply designed to be narrow because fewer folks actually use it? Surely the installation of a “wider” gate…er less narrow…would encourage traffic away from Gate B towards Gate A?…perhaps the all mighty might consider a sign above the gate… although I guess more traffic could result in “bottle necking” and injury should a panic erupt among the faithful (like if they discovered a hindu trying to sneak past)…this just doesn’t make any sense to me….
AAAAUGGGH NOOOO BIBLE QUOTES!!!!! Why can’t they try to have an intelligent argument without using scripture?? As soon as the quotes from some old dead guy hundreds of years ago are brought out as some kind of ammunition, my brain walks out the door.
You need to be slapped with the ‘No sense of sarcasm’ stick by His Noodly Appendage.