I’m sorry to come off strong and all but as my school we have believers that follow this. I dont mind in what you believe in for all seriousness BUT the pictures, some are a mockery that you are apperntly trying to put on catholics,jews,lutherians,e.t.c. We dont blast on your religion DONT BLAST ON MINE OR OTHERS! You guys want to be taking serious? well then do it proffessional..
-chris
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An elaborate spoof on Intelligent Design, The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is neither too elaborate nor too spoofy to succeed in nailing the fallacies of ID. It's even wackier than Jonathan Swift's suggestion that the Irish eat their children as a way to keep them from being a burden, and it may offend just as many people, but Henderson, described elsewhere as a 25-year-old "out-of-work physics major," puts satire to the same serious use that Swift did. Oh, yes, it is very funny. -- Scientific American
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Do it professionally, and use spell check.
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please check the rest of the hatemail section, you will see that you guys ARE blasting us.
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This guy has obviously not noticed all the wicked things being done to pastas around the world, or the disdain the mainstream has for the words of saucy glory.
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“well then do it proffessional..”
This seems to be the case over and over again. People telling us to tighten up, but their mails are very difficult to read, due to all the errors. Ironic.
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wow! what school do you go to? i just want to know so i can be sure not to send my kids there. after all, i want them to learn grammar. get a life!
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Chris, I think you misunderstand. Few of us, if any, are interested in “Blasting On” anyone’s religious beliefs. What is being blasted here is the idea that although Jesus tells us to worship in secret, give alms in secret, pray in secret (Matthew 6), many Christians feel it is their duty to make society conform to their personal ethics. Jesus also said that if you carry the good news to a town, and they will not receive it, to “shake the dust of that town off your feet.” He does not say that you should get a bunch of your guys elected to the school board so you can change the rules to suit your perception of the message of Christ. At the Creation museum in Kentucky there is a sign at the entrance that reads “Don’t think, just Believe.” By Evolution or Creation, you have to admit that we ended up with a large, complex, and exceedingly capable brain. For God’s sake, use it. That’s what we really want.
Daryle
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He’s just upset because our Lord has bigger balls than his.
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Hmm… Perhaps you shouldn’t generalize for ALL Christians. I know several that I work with that are in my face all the time blasting my religion, and actually make fun of my worshiping His noodily goodness. One brought in a weird toy with a plate of spaghetti and some eyes in it. I asked her where his meatballs were, and hung it up at my desk and thanked her for the thoughtful gift. She goes out of her way to send me Christian themed holiday cards that talk about being blessed and whatnot. Yet, when I try to speak of how we should all thank Him for holding us down so we do not float off into space, she will not listen. And that’s just me… what about all the deaths perpetrated in the name of Jesus because they will not convert? Is that not surpassing blasting another’s beliefs? YOU may not, but please, do not do yourself such a disservice by lumping yourself with those that make it their goal to… at least we do not spread His message in a way that is wrapped in hate. For an example of who you are lumping yourself in with, please see: http://www.godhatesfags.com/
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Chris, your concern is noted. While there are some Pastafarians who are vocal in their condemnation of organized religion, particularly Christianity, most of us are quite content to live and let live. We are about “blasting” the ignorance of those who profess the desire to teaching ID in science classes, when ID does not meet the definition of science. If they wish to teach this BELIEF in schools, then it should be done in religion or philosophy courses. You do not condemn us to hell, and I appreciate that. However, I would like to ask you to PLEASE use your spell-check and proper grammar. Your missive would have been much easier to read and understand.
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If you take exception to any images, tell us which ones! A vague, generalized complaint hardly gives any idea of how to adequately respond. The message of this site, if you send the time to really read and try to understand, is to neither mock nor single out for special treatment any belief. Some individuals cross the line from time to time, but if you don’t understand that message I think you need to take more time to get to know us.
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Also, I don’t think you are coming across al that strongLY (adverb needed here!). In fact, titling your post that way almost guarantees it will be a weak, apologetic argument. Open, strong debate is nothing to fear! I realized a long time ago that if my personal beliefs can’t stand a little blast, from time to time, maybe my beliefs are not all that strong. If your faith is true, how can any words or images be a threat to it? But I do also have a preference for respectful debate, and that is one thing I try to contribute here for what it is worth.
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If you do want to come across strongly, post your reasoning and rationale clearly, and no apologies will be needed! And yes, I agree with others that the quality of the writing (grammar, etc.) is a reflection on the quality of the thinking behind any post.
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@kelly
“wow! what school do you go to? i just want to know so i can be sure not to send my kids there. after all, i want them to learn grammar. get a life!”
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Chris did say there are Pastafarians at his school, so maybe the place isn’t so bad, chris just being a very bad representative.
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“Do it proffessional [sic]“?
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Your letter oozes irony to the extent tht i threw up over my breakfast.
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It was pasta, by the way.
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i can’t take someone serious if they say “Taking Seriously”. It is “taken”
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Silly person. The purpose of the FSM is not to offend or mock. His Noodliness, in His infinitely saucy wisdom, merely wants us small meat-based organisms to think about some questions, such as:
If a bunch of people say they believe in something, does that mean others should be forced to teach it?
Is it possible that other people think that your beliefs are as silly and unsubstantiated as you think mine are?
Personally, I like people of other religions, and try to lead by example rather than proselytize. I generally pity non-Pastafarians, as they are going to miss out on all the beer. At any rate, all of us religious types ought to stick together, to battle Big Science and the lies they want us to teach in school.
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Aren’t lutherians people who make violins? Of course the FSM is opposed to violins, he’s a peaceful god.
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Why is it that all hate mail has terrible spelling?
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Chris, dear:
Your beliefs are your own, and I wouldn’t “BLAST” them. I wouldn’t “blast” them, either. I might ask you to defend some element or another, if you bring it up, which shouldn’t seem onerous to anyone in a religion which so reveres martyrs.
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Your spelling, grammar, punctuation, ability to conceive and express a point, however, deserve all the ridicule heaped upon you. Here’s a tip: spend a little more time learning what all the adults in your community are paying taxes for you to learn, and a little less fretting over whether you are being oppressed, and you’ll do fine. Trust me on this.
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Or you can continue contributing to the perception that your particular beliefs are primarily defended by the embarrassingly ignorant, which is a pitiful conversion technique, wouldn’t you say?
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1. Define this “We” that you talk of who aren’t “blasting” our religion because it seems like the comment “You are going to burn in HELL!” is “blasting”…
2. Who cares if it’s professional? Was your Jesus a professional?
3. We are being taken seriously. See the “Polk County decides not to pursue Intelligent Design” article.
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@ chris
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Im sorry to come off strong but “soma people like US AMERICANS dont have maps.” “And I believe that education in South Aafrica and THE IRAQ,…everywhere like such as therfore.” Blah blah blah.
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sincerely, Miss Teen South Carolina
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On a more serious note, if youre going to dabble in the forum of the intelligentsia….DO YOUR HOMEWORK FIRST DUDE !!
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Salutations
Paul M.
Windsor, Ontario
Canada…confirmed Pirate.
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“BUT the pictures, some are a mockery that you are apperntly trying to put on catholics,jews,lutherians,e.t.c.” Come again?
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@ irate Pirate (me)
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What I meant to say was,”U.S.” Americans…….
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Sorry about any ensuing confusion.
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Ramen.
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“I’m sorry to come off strong”
Then take a shower.
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I’m sorry, but I just can’t believe that this isn’t a joke. Are some people really this dumb? No, if this is authentic, I have reevaluating to do.
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Chris,
If you are willing to take a minute or two to type and post a comment on this site take another couple of minutes and click “About”. It will give you great insight to the Pastafarians.
Most usually do not blast religion but blast the posters who are being quite horrible to us. Generally, most hate-mailers come across as a bunch of religious fanatics that cannot spell and quite frankly come across as a bunch of hillbilly retards who cannot read.
So please take the time to get your facts straights about FSM.
Thanks
PS. In the future, copy what you have typed into any word processor and click spell check. Make corrections then paste back in here and submit.
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“Strong?” That was not strong. Poorly expressed and not strong. Please try again
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@rmw
“While there are some Pastafarians who are vocal in their condemnation of organized religion, particularly Christianity, most of us are quite content to live and let live.” – Except for happy clappy TV evangelists. They deserve a spirited mocking…and a Chinese burn.
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flyingspaghettiapostle, just a word in Saucy Love, our God HAS balls, the guy on the stick doesn’t; no point in arguing about this, it’s worse than apples and oranges, it’s Holy Meatballs and nothing.
chris: the only religious people I know that keep their religion to themselves and don’t “BLAST” others are the Jews and the Pastafarians. The rest, Christians, muslims and so many others, can’t have enough of “BLASTING” others. Not to mention, of course, harassing them in all manners imaginable, robbing them, torturing them, raping them, burning them alive, cutting them to pieces and, oh yeah, let’ not forget condemning them to eternal damnation and hell. Go read a little history, then read today’s news and then don’t worry about not “coming off strong”, try not to come off ridiculous.
If you have a reasonable argument, use it, otherwise, don’t embarrass yourself.
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Key word: apperntly [sic]. I assume you mean ‘apparently’ which means your argument has no basis. Sorry.
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Oh hang on. No I’m not.
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St John the Blasphemist
Saint of Alleged Stuff
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@Madd Dogg Charlie Dec 30th, 2007 at 1:09 am: “Aren’t lutherians people who make violins? Of course the FSM is opposed to violins, he’s a peaceful god.”
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Hahahaha! Another example of a too often neglected aspect of Pastafarianism: linguistic creativity. Shouldn’t Bobby mention that in a next (revised and extended) edition of the Gospel?
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It counterbalances nicely the poor language of hatemailers. But we’ll never be sure about those all being genuine…
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You miss the message of his wrathful taste.
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“We dont blast on your religion”? So tell me, what are you and all other hate-mailers doing right now?
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@Little Maru Dec 30th, 2007 at 6:47 am
“I’m sorry, but I just can’t believe that this isn’t a joke. Are some people really this dumb?”
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Yep…’fraid so :( Chris’s mail is mild and articulate compared to some we receive!
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Maybe he should read the hate mail section, and see that a lot of catholics DO blast us.
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It’s funny that the only thing he is opposed to is our pictures. All of our art is based purely on facts. And isn’t the fact that you posted this blasted us? Just sayin’.
RAMEN
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@Madd Dogg Charlie
“Aren’t lutherians people who make violins? Of course the FSM is opposed to violins, he’s a peaceful god.”
Very well said! RAmen.
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Why must we fight? We are all children of the flying spaghetti monster and he loves us all. Let us bask in his saucy goodness and rejoice.
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come on people,
as an atheist, just about everyone in my school hates me,
they’re freakin intolerable, even when I tolerate their Christianity.
But the second we create a religion (that is not more absurd than any other, mind you) the Christians get pissed at us.
Don’t they even understand it’s just a joke?
They take this “threat” against their “lord and savior” too seriously
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What kind of bullshit school do you go to? (no offence)
In my school, nobody gives a shit about who beleives in what.
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“Come off a little strong”? It takes more than CAPSLOCK to faze us. No death threats or anything? Come ON… You should have done this piece of hatemail “proffesional”.
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Take it easy! God doesn’t like the pictures anyways cuz he thinks he looks fat in them
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@RAmen Dec 31st, 2007 at 8:09 pm
“Don’t they even understand it’s just a joke?”
A joke!?!?
Why you Heathen..you!! ;)
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Hi there Everyone,
I see some of you are still around. I recognize Dutchpastaguy, Jean Bart, Wench Nikkiee, my friend Alchemist, and of course Bobby. I was here around last Feburary and wrote some stuff on having an objective morality as an atheist and having good reasons to be moral. After reading it, someone suggested that it needed more depth, a longer article or maybe even a book.
We’ll I’ve started it, but it hasn’t gone as fast as I would like. Part of the reason is that I really don’t have anyone to share it with and so that decreases my motivation. But lately I’ve had another spurt, and so I would like to suggest, humbly, that if anyone is interested such a thing that you look at what I have so far. It would be a great favor to me, but it might also be interesting to you, maybe.
I think I’m about half way done, but I could sure use some constructive criticism. It’s on the website attached to my name.
Hi Alchemist. How you been?
P.S. My Email is billtomlinson@mac.com
The article can be found here: http://homepage.mac.com/billtomlinson/TMA/
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I thought we were “doing it professional” and “being taken serious.”
Maybe it’s a hoax! GHASPE!
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I doubt it, though. The Gospel says otherwise.
RAmen.
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@bill t
Welcome back, good to see you post again! I will read your article. As it is lengthy even in its unfinished form it may take a while.
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@DutchPastaGuy
Thanks that would be great. Wow, good to see you. Why did this place get moderated. There must have been some nasty stuff going around, huh? Did it have to do with some of those scary posts?
My girlfriend is off rafting the Colorado river for the next 19 days, so I have more of a chance of making some progress on my article. Kind of quiet around here.
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Hi bill – good to hear from you – hope you had a nice holiday and Santa brought you your every desire? The miserable sod forgot to send me the Brazilian women’s Beach Volleyball squad – again!
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Likewise for me – I’ll definitely give it a read too.
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Ah, the moderation :D Yes, that’s caused a few grumbles from some of the oldies – myself included. It kills the spontaneity and random daftness that really defined this site.
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Bobby was talking about having moderated/unmoderated versions of the threads, not sure what’s happened to that.
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All the best for 2008 everyone.
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That reply went missing again. Retry.
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Hi bill – good to hear from you – hope you had a nice holiday and Santa brought you your every desire? The miserable sod forgot to send me the Brazilian women’s Beach Volleyball squad – again!
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Likewise for me – I’ll definitely give it a read too.
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Ah, the moderation :D Yes, that’s caused a few grumbles from some of the oldies – myself included. It kills the spontaneity and random daftness that really defined this site.
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Bobby was talking about having moderated/unmoderated versions of the threads, not sure what’s happened to that.
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All the best for 2008 everyone.
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Hi Alchemist,
Moderation certainly does slow down the flow. I remember times when I would just here for a minute or two waiting for the next response to the last response, so that I could immediately respond. I guess this forces people to get a life outside of CoFSM. Is that a good thing?
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@bill
I quickly skimmed through ‘The Moral Atheist’ and one point that I think you missed (perhaps you didn’t and I didn’t see it so my appologies if that is the case) is the old ‘Is X good solely because God says so or does God say that X is good because it actually IS good?’ delemma. If X is only good because God says so than morallity is quite arbitrary in that God is only good because he says he is and if he said that murder was good than it would suddenly be ok to go about killing people. In this case religious folk seem to be in as much trouble as athiests. However, if God says that things are good because they ARE good, then morallity is not arbitrary and is independant of God. This makes it just as accessible to athiests as theists. The only difference is that theists have a celestial parent telling them which things are right and wrong while atheists will have to make use of reason to work out which things are right and wrong. I just thought you might like to address this in your work as I think it is a quite compelling argument for why theists are not morally priveledged.
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I thoroughly enjoyed “The Moral Athiest” and I think it is such a great read. I hope that you indeed finish it one day and I will support you by purchasing it to hope to pass on to others. It is a book I think everybody should read, no matter what religion you are from.
RAmen to you! The noodly one has blessed you with this creativity of writing!
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