Comments on: As an agnostic Buddhist http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/25/as-an-agnostic-buddhist/ Sun, 21 Mar 2010 09:55:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: PeggyLuWho http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/25/as-an-agnostic-buddhist/#comment-584984 PeggyLuWho Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:30:17 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/25/as-an-agnostic-buddhist.htm#comment-584984 Wow. The voice of reason. Many beers and strippers to you. RAmen Wow. The voice of reason. Many beers and strippers to you.

RAmen

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]]> By: Francesc http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/25/as-an-agnostic-buddhist/#comment-348837 Francesc Mon, 31 Mar 2008 10:45:56 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/25/as-an-agnostic-buddhist.htm#comment-348837 @ Anim8or ehm... i agree with you about the "philosophy of making the world a nice place to live" thing. But I'm sorry it's the only part of your response I can agree with. "I simply found Buddhism to be based on real analysis of the world using scientific concepts " is silly. The man who invented Buddhism didn't knew a thing -he couldn't, provided god's revelation- about the Big-bang. If it seems accurate to you is because you want it to seem. What you are describing to us is a religion? Well, what's the difference between ID god and the "cosmic guidance"?? "when you put out too much bad Karma" - can you give us a prove that Karma exists? It's a statistic correlation between "bad actions" and "bad luck? So, in wich way that's a scientific approach? "the idea of Chi going somewhere when you die makes sense ( because Hawking proved that electricity can’t die, and quantum physics pretty much proves that your consciousness is electrical)" - ok, that was good... 1.- To establish a link between quantum physics and any philosophy/religion is bullshit. quantum physics doesn't speaks about consciousness... 2.- What's the Chi? Have you seen his effects? Wich are his properties? It's more scientific than christian's soul? 3.- Electricity can't die... ok, a vast majority of our atoms will still be here hundreds of years after our decease; in fact, the atoms I was born with aren't more in my body, but they still exists somewhere. You are doing the same with that "electricity" So, I was meaning that Buddhism is a religion, and I would like you to see that it's as nonsense -in scientific terms- as any other religion. As it is FSM. You can believe in it but not prove it. RAmen @ Anim8or

ehm… i agree with you about the “philosophy of making the world a nice place to live” thing. But I’m sorry it’s the only part of your response I can agree with.

“I simply found Buddhism to be based on real analysis of the world using scientific concepts ” is silly. The man who invented Buddhism didn’t knew a thing -he couldn’t, provided god’s revelation- about the Big-bang. If it seems accurate to you is because you want it to seem.

What you are describing to us is a religion? Well, what’s the difference between ID god and the “cosmic guidance”??

“when you put out too much bad Karma” – can you give us a prove that Karma exists? It’s a statistic correlation between “bad actions” and “bad luck? So, in wich way that’s a scientific approach?

“the idea of Chi going somewhere when you die makes sense ( because Hawking proved that electricity can’t die, and quantum physics pretty much proves that your consciousness is electrical)”
- ok, that was good…
1.- To establish a link between quantum physics and any philosophy/religion is bullshit. quantum physics doesn’t speaks about consciousness…
2.- What’s the Chi? Have you seen his effects? Wich are his properties? It’s more scientific than christian’s soul?
3.- Electricity can’t die… ok, a vast majority of our atoms will still be here hundreds of years after our decease; in fact, the atoms I was born with aren’t more in my body, but they still exists somewhere. You are doing the same with that “electricity”

So, I was meaning that Buddhism is a religion, and I would like you to see that it’s as nonsense -in scientific terms- as any other religion. As it is FSM. You can believe in it but not prove it.

RAmen

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]]> By: Cap'n Wolf http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/25/as-an-agnostic-buddhist/#comment-348496 Cap'n Wolf Mon, 31 Mar 2008 05:07:50 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/25/as-an-agnostic-buddhist.htm#comment-348496 RAMEN! RAMEN!

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]]> By: skinimini http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/25/as-an-agnostic-buddhist/#comment-283906 skinimini Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:30:13 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/25/as-an-agnostic-buddhist.htm#comment-283906 RAMEN!! HERE, HERE! RAMEN!! HERE, HERE!

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]]> By: Zekk http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/25/as-an-agnostic-buddhist/#comment-281602 Zekk Wed, 09 Jan 2008 05:27:54 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/25/as-an-agnostic-buddhist.htm#comment-281602 Thank you :) I am buddhist myself and have long argued that if you want a peacful world, either ban religion, or become wither buddhist or pastafarian. Anyone agree with me or is it just the sugar rush?? :P YOU RULE! Thank you :)

I am buddhist myself and have long argued that if you want a peacful world, either ban religion, or become wither buddhist or pastafarian. Anyone agree with me or is it just the sugar rush??

:P

YOU RULE!

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]]> By: jason the amazing whiteboy http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/25/as-an-agnostic-buddhist/#comment-279369 jason the amazing whiteboy Sun, 06 Jan 2008 17:36:13 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/25/as-an-agnostic-buddhist.htm#comment-279369 well personally, i dont think that intelligent design should be taught in schools, or FSMism for that matter. keep them both out, or have them both in if need be. not just one or the other. well personally, i dont think that intelligent design should be taught in schools, or FSMism for that matter. keep them both out, or have them both in if need be. not just one or the other.

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]]> By: Momi Pink Shoes http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/25/as-an-agnostic-buddhist/#comment-277288 Momi Pink Shoes Fri, 04 Jan 2008 00:36:39 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/25/as-an-agnostic-buddhist.htm#comment-277288 Wow! Anim8or! You actually responded to us! Yay! . You have truly been touched by his noodle. Ramen to you, my friend! Wow! Anim8or! You actually responded to us! Yay!
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You have truly been touched by his noodle. Ramen to you, my friend!

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]]> By: Jade http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/25/as-an-agnostic-buddhist/#comment-277123 Jade Thu, 03 Jan 2008 19:16:32 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/25/as-an-agnostic-buddhist.htm#comment-277123 RAmen! RAmen!

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]]> By: Anim8or http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/25/as-an-agnostic-buddhist/#comment-274796 Anim8or Tue, 01 Jan 2008 01:15:18 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/25/as-an-agnostic-buddhist.htm#comment-274796 To answer a couple of the questions. 1. Agnostic Buddhism means that we believe in the Buddhist philosophy, which in a nutshell states that material greed causes most of the pain in the world, I personally believe in Chi (but probably more in the scientific Stephen Hawking, quantum physics way). The Agnostic part is where we are un-sure of the things that can't be scientifically proven, so we sort of believe what seems "real", like to me, the idea of Chi going somewhere when you die makes sense ( because Hawking proved that electricity can't die, and quantum physics pretty much proves that your consciousness is electrical). I do believe in some sort of cosmic guidance, but not some dude with a beard causing everything. I also don't believe that people get punished in the afterlife, I think the misery your life turns into when you put out too much bad Karma (ie, people thinking you are a dink and treating you as such) is enough. 2. Buddhist creation myth is actually quite interesting, because it's close the big bang theory. That all life came from one mass of energy that fractured into independent consciousness, and follows quantum theory very closely as well, in that all things are still connected on the level of Chi (electrical life energy which every eastern religion has words for and we don't), and consciousness is the electrical energy that flows through the human body. The concept of Karma plays heavily, to me, Karma is the "Swing your arms as wide and fast as you want, just don't smack anyone while you are doing it". I simply found Buddhism to be based on real analysis of the world using scientific concepts and philosophy of making the world a nice place to live, rather than some guy making up a story to make money, save Rome, or have an excuse to kill people with bigger noses than himself (something that seems to be a running theme of human existence... I think probably related to the "size of a man's nose, being related to the size of his... you know").... Of course as far as guys making up stories (and I am fairly sure he is a messiah, so he is probably correct, and if he isn't, I am sure the FSM is stepping in to correct his data as he writes it, so it's OK in this case) the FSM is the closest thing to a scientific religion I have ever seen in western culture... so I love it, and have no conflict in allowing the FSM to fill in the agnostic side of my Buddhist philosophical beliefs. I was already practicing "talk like a pirate day" even before discovering where it came from. So it was divine intervention. To answer a couple of the questions.

1. Agnostic Buddhism means that we believe in the Buddhist philosophy, which in a nutshell states that material greed causes most of the pain in the world, I personally believe in Chi (but probably more in the scientific Stephen Hawking, quantum physics way). The Agnostic part is where we are un-sure of the things that can’t be scientifically proven, so we sort of believe what seems “real”, like to me, the idea of Chi going somewhere when you die makes sense ( because Hawking proved that electricity can’t die, and quantum physics pretty much proves that your consciousness is electrical). I do believe in some sort of cosmic guidance, but not some dude with a beard causing everything. I also don’t believe that people get punished in the afterlife, I think the misery your life turns into when you put out too much bad Karma (ie, people thinking you are a dink and treating you as such) is enough.

2. Buddhist creation myth is actually quite interesting, because it’s close the big bang theory. That all life came from one mass of energy that fractured into independent consciousness, and follows quantum theory very closely as well, in that all things are still connected on the level of Chi (electrical life energy which every eastern religion has words for and we don’t), and consciousness is the electrical energy that flows through the human body. The concept of Karma plays heavily, to me, Karma is the “Swing your arms as wide and fast as you want, just don’t smack anyone while you are doing it”.

I simply found Buddhism to be based on real analysis of the world using scientific concepts and philosophy of making the world a nice place to live, rather than some guy making up a story to make money, save Rome, or have an excuse to kill people with bigger noses than himself (something that seems to be a running theme of human existence… I think probably related to the “size of a man’s nose, being related to the size of his… you know”)….

Of course as far as guys making up stories (and I am fairly sure he is a messiah, so he is probably correct, and if he isn’t, I am sure the FSM is stepping in to correct his data as he writes it, so it’s OK in this case) the FSM is the closest thing to a scientific religion I have ever seen in western culture… so I love it, and have no conflict in allowing the FSM to fill in the agnostic side of my Buddhist philosophical beliefs. I was already practicing “talk like a pirate day” even before discovering where it came from. So it was divine intervention.

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]]> By: ZEN TOFU STUD RASCAL http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/25/as-an-agnostic-buddhist/#comment-274452 ZEN TOFU STUD RASCAL Mon, 31 Dec 2007 16:00:27 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/25/as-an-agnostic-buddhist.htm#comment-274452 Wow! This is really amazing, but I too am an agnostic buddhist, who has recently heard the calling to return to my pastafarian roots! Does anyone else think that maybe there's something to this? Perhaps in the same way that some believe Abraham's God created all of the people on earth, but then chose the people of Israel to be his "special people unto himself, above all others" (Deut. 7:6) - maybe our noodley master has chosen us agnostic buddhists as HIS favorites! I'm going to get meditating - I mean FETA-tating - right away to see if I can receive any further insight into "The Four Noodle Truths". I will close for tonight with the newly revealed mantra... "BOY-AR-DEE-PAD-THAI-YUM" Wow! This is really amazing, but I too am an agnostic buddhist, who has recently heard the calling to return to my pastafarian roots! Does anyone else think that maybe there’s something to this? Perhaps in the same way that some believe Abraham’s God created all of the people on earth, but then chose the people of Israel to be his “special people unto himself, above all others” (Deut. 7:6) – maybe our noodley master has chosen us agnostic buddhists as HIS favorites! I’m going to get meditating – I mean FETA-tating – right away to see if I can receive any further insight into “The Four Noodle Truths”. I will close for tonight with the newly revealed mantra…

“BOY-AR-DEE-PAD-THAI-YUM”

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]]> By: Blanche Carbohydrate http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/25/as-an-agnostic-buddhist/#comment-273526 Blanche Carbohydrate Sun, 30 Dec 2007 10:13:13 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/25/as-an-agnostic-buddhist.htm#comment-273526 "Pay 'de load!" That's what you say when the Spaghetti arrives and the Spaghetti has arrived! I can not heap enough organically grown victory garden tomatoes into the sauce in praise of your fine effort here on behalf of the whole spiritual community. It hasta be pasta! RAmen! Blanche “Pay ‘de load!”

That’s what you say when the Spaghetti arrives and the Spaghetti has arrived! I can not heap enough organically grown victory garden tomatoes into the sauce in praise of your fine effort here on behalf of the whole spiritual community. It hasta be pasta! RAmen!

Blanche

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]]> By: katelyn http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/25/as-an-agnostic-buddhist/#comment-272125 katelyn Fri, 28 Dec 2007 18:13:04 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/25/as-an-agnostic-buddhist.htm#comment-272125 RAmen brother! It is great to hear how His saucey goodness has touched you with his noodley appendege! May others souls be enlightened by Him as you have. RAmen, Sause be with you! RAmen brother! It is great to hear how His saucey goodness has touched you with his noodley appendege! May others souls be enlightened by Him as you have. RAmen, Sause be with you!

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]]> By: Teh Spag-worshipper http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/25/as-an-agnostic-buddhist/#comment-271900 Teh Spag-worshipper Fri, 28 Dec 2007 11:37:55 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/25/as-an-agnostic-buddhist.htm#comment-271900 RAmen to that! After so long browsing only the hate mail section (ah, the joys of 'debating' with fundies), it's refreshing to know people like this actually exist! RAmen to that! After so long browsing only the hate mail section (ah, the joys of ‘debating’ with fundies), it’s refreshing to know people like this actually exist!

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]]> By: MsOfTheDark http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/25/as-an-agnostic-buddhist/#comment-271896 MsOfTheDark Fri, 28 Dec 2007 11:32:33 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/25/as-an-agnostic-buddhist.htm#comment-271896 WOW.......Very interesting, something I have never heard of, but none the less interesting. WOW…….Very interesting, something I have never heard of, but none the less interesting.

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]]> By: Elliott Averett http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/25/as-an-agnostic-buddhist/#comment-271677 Elliott Averett Fri, 28 Dec 2007 05:17:09 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/25/as-an-agnostic-buddhist.htm#comment-271677 I'm an agnostic Buddhist as well, and I really appreciated your post. RAmen. I’m an agnostic Buddhist as well, and I really appreciated your post. RAmen.

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]]> By: PaulecoTreco http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/25/as-an-agnostic-buddhist/#comment-271362 PaulecoTreco Thu, 27 Dec 2007 21:24:11 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/25/as-an-agnostic-buddhist.htm#comment-271362 As an agnostic Agnostic, I could make a point here: Jesus said (I'm not sure whether he really existed or not though) "Come all the poors and the children for theirs is the Kingdom of God" - or something like that, I read the bible when I was 7 - and he was right! For if there were no rich people on earth to deceive poor people then poverty would not exist and Jesus would have nothing to do but to stay still there like a...Christ. What to do with children once there is no chance of them not existing - well this is a really complex philosophical question (don't ask Herodes, please - he failed!). As an agnostic Agnostic, I could make a point here: Jesus said (I’m not sure whether he really existed or not though) “Come all the poors and the children for theirs is the Kingdom of God” – or something like that, I read the bible when I was 7 – and he was right! For if there were no rich people on earth to deceive poor people then poverty would not exist and Jesus would have nothing to do but to stay still there like a…Christ. What to do with children once there is no chance of them not existing – well this is a really complex philosophical question (don’t ask Herodes, please – he failed!).

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]]> By: Ohio Pirate http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/25/as-an-agnostic-buddhist/#comment-271255 Ohio Pirate Thu, 27 Dec 2007 08:23:51 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/25/as-an-agnostic-buddhist.htm#comment-271255 Well said!!! RAmen!! Well said!!!
RAmen!!

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]]> By: mnoutdoorlover http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/25/as-an-agnostic-buddhist/#comment-271158 mnoutdoorlover Thu, 27 Dec 2007 06:23:49 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/25/as-an-agnostic-buddhist.htm#comment-271158 Aaaarrrrrramen! Aaaarrrrrramen!

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]]> By: Michael http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/25/as-an-agnostic-buddhist/#comment-271083 Michael Thu, 27 Dec 2007 03:58:24 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/25/as-an-agnostic-buddhist.htm#comment-271083 RAmen (Happy Allah-Days!) RAmen (Happy Allah-Days!)

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]]> By: Mike http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/25/as-an-agnostic-buddhist/#comment-271069 Mike Thu, 27 Dec 2007 03:36:48 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/25/as-an-agnostic-buddhist.htm#comment-271069 I love the love mail. That's what it's all about. I'm curious, I have only limited knowledge regarding Buddhism and am curious if there is a creation theory in Buddhism. If so it would have every right to be taught side by side with the FSM theory. Pasta be with you, Ramen I love the love mail. That’s what it’s all about. I’m curious, I have only limited knowledge regarding Buddhism and am curious if there is a creation theory in Buddhism. If so it would have every right to be taught side by side with the FSM theory.

Pasta be with you,
Ramen

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