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	<title>Comments on: Polk County, part 2.</title>
	<link>http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/12/polk-county-2.htm</link>
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		<title>By: green man</title>
		<link>http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/12/polk-county-2.htm#comment-331271</link>
		<author>green man</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/12/polk-county-2.htm#comment-331271</guid>
		<description>RAmen</description>
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		<title>By: Rumplestiltskin</title>
		<link>http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/12/polk-county-2.htm#comment-268839</link>
		<author>Rumplestiltskin</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 19:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/12/polk-county-2.htm#comment-268839</guid>
		<description>@Alchemist
"Which regulars are you speaking for Mike? The ones that post now, whoever they are, or the ones we’d know as regulars? The ones that have posted here for ages but have all gone away now?" =;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Alchemist<br />
&#8220;Which regulars are you speaking for Mike? The ones that post now, whoever they are, or the ones we’d know as regulars? The ones that have posted here for ages but have all gone away now?&#8221; =;)</p>
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		<title>By: Elaygee</title>
		<link>http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/12/polk-county-2.htm#comment-266537</link>
		<author>Elaygee</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 01:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/12/polk-county-2.htm#comment-266537</guid>
		<description>HERE'S MY EMAIL TO THE POLK COUNTY SCHOOLBOARD

Dear Frank and Brenda,
 
Needless to say, you have our sympathies. It cannot be easy to be associated with Luddites who make Polk county a laughingstock. Even schoolboards in Africa and Central Asia, where the teachers still get get paid in livestock, have passed on this Intelligent Design nonsense. 
 
Maybe the good folks of Polk County would like their children to be behind the educational standards of even third world countries. Perhaps life as a Super 8 chambermaid or Winn Dixie cashier is their lofty goal for their children. 
 
Please continue to refute this nonsense. ID has no place in science. Over one billion Hindus believe the world is carried on the shell of a giant turtle and that Ganesh the elephant headed god brings good fortune to his followers. Let 20 Hindu children move to Polk County and see if they start teaching that in science class. I doubt it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HERE&#8217;S MY EMAIL TO THE POLK COUNTY SCHOOLBOARD</p>
<p>Dear Frank and Brenda,</p>
<p>Needless to say, you have our sympathies. It cannot be easy to be associated with Luddites who make Polk county a laughingstock. Even schoolboards in Africa and Central Asia, where the teachers still get get paid in livestock, have passed on this Intelligent Design nonsense. </p>
<p>Maybe the good folks of Polk County would like their children to be behind the educational standards of even third world countries. Perhaps life as a Super 8 chambermaid or Winn Dixie cashier is their lofty goal for their children. </p>
<p>Please continue to refute this nonsense. ID has no place in science. Over one billion Hindus believe the world is carried on the shell of a giant turtle and that Ganesh the elephant headed god brings good fortune to his followers. Let 20 Hindu children move to Polk County and see if they start teaching that in science class. I doubt it.</p>
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		<title>By: Alchemist</title>
		<link>http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/12/polk-county-2.htm#comment-263105</link>
		<author>Alchemist</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 08:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/12/polk-county-2.htm#comment-263105</guid>
		<description>The brilliant bit was a joke btw - wonder if this post is censored so as to distort the meaning of my previous?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The brilliant bit was a joke btw - wonder if this post is censored so as to distort the meaning of my previous?</p>
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		<title>By: Alchemist</title>
		<link>http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/12/polk-county-2.htm#comment-263088</link>
		<author>Alchemist</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 08:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/12/polk-county-2.htm#comment-263088</guid>
		<description>Hi storm petrel.
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I remember the J days well - that was when the scroll wheel rule was born :D
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I'd try to post something about the topic but I'm afraid I'll be moderated.
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No point me spending twenty minutes composing a brilliant post if I think someone we don't know decides what is ok and what isn't!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi storm petrel.<br />
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I remember the J days well - that was when the scroll wheel rule was born :D<br />
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I&#8217;d try to post something about the topic but I&#8217;m afraid I&#8217;ll be moderated.<br />
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No point me spending twenty minutes composing a brilliant post if I think someone we don&#8217;t know decides what is ok and what isn&#8217;t!</p>
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		<title>By: storm petrel</title>
		<link>http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/12/polk-county-2.htm#comment-262504</link>
		<author>storm petrel</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/12/polk-county-2.htm#comment-262504</guid>
		<description>@ Mike Meier, you suggested using the forums to make new topics, and then go off topic, please correct me if I misunderstood, but that's how it came across, I would have looked at the forums as the place to stay ON topic, not have silly, random, tangential conversations.
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You're right about there being plenty of nonsense between useful information in many of the threads pre-mod, but when a serious debate broke out, the silliness was generally kept to a minimum, now, because of the lag, you can get multiple people posting pretty much the same thing over and over again, there's just as much skipping over repitition as there ever was skipping over random silliness.
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@ DPG, my thoughts re mod exactly, end it last week and put up all the posts that have mysteriously diseappeared.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Mike Meier, you suggested using the forums to make new topics, and then go off topic, please correct me if I misunderstood, but that&#8217;s how it came across, I would have looked at the forums as the place to stay ON topic, not have silly, random, tangential conversations.<br />
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You&#8217;re right about there being plenty of nonsense between useful information in many of the threads pre-mod, but when a serious debate broke out, the silliness was generally kept to a minimum, now, because of the lag, you can get multiple people posting pretty much the same thing over and over again, there&#8217;s just as much skipping over repitition as there ever was skipping over random silliness.<br />
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@ DPG, my thoughts re mod exactly, end it last week and put up all the posts that have mysteriously diseappeared.</p>
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		<title>By: ۞</title>
		<link>http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/12/polk-county-2.htm#comment-262099</link>
		<author>۞</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 08:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/12/polk-county-2.htm#comment-262099</guid>
		<description>Polk county have been backward ever since their famous adot went out of fashion!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Polk county have been backward ever since their famous adot went out of fashion!</p>
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		<title>By: Alchemist</title>
		<link>http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/12/polk-county-2.htm#comment-261910</link>
		<author>Alchemist</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 04:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/12/polk-county-2.htm#comment-261910</guid>
		<description>Hi Mike Meier - I'll assume my last reply just got lost and wasn't moderated out! Seeing as though it wasn't hate speech - well, let's hope it was accidental. 
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&lt;em&gt;The coherency of the posts here does a lot to make this site more meaningful to the regulars and to new people.&lt;/em&gt;
Which regulars are you speaking for Mike? The ones that post now, whoever they are, or the ones we'd know as regulars? The ones that have posted here for ages but have all gone away now?
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The ones who could hold a debate, go off on a tangent but still get to the point. Those of us with more than one interest? 
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Oh - you mean it's a lot better without the people that could make you think? 
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NOTE: The last message I sent in reply to mike had "awaiting moderation" on it for just under two hours. Then it disappeared - poof!
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This one's about the same. So sorry if both crop up and I've copied them if neither do :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mike Meier - I&#8217;ll assume my last reply just got lost and wasn&#8217;t moderated out! Seeing as though it wasn&#8217;t hate speech - well, let&#8217;s hope it was accidental.<br />
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<em>The coherency of the posts here does a lot to make this site more meaningful to the regulars and to new people.</em><br />
Which regulars are you speaking for Mike? The ones that post now, whoever they are, or the ones we&#8217;d know as regulars? The ones that have posted here for ages but have all gone away now?<br />
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The ones who could hold a debate, go off on a tangent but still get to the point. Those of us with more than one interest?<br />
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Oh - you mean it&#8217;s a lot better without the people that could make you think?<br />
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NOTE: The last message I sent in reply to mike had &#8220;awaiting moderation&#8221; on it for just under two hours. Then it disappeared - poof!<br />
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This one&#8217;s about the same. So sorry if both crop up and I&#8217;ve copied them if neither do :D</p>
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		<title>By: SandyHook</title>
		<link>http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/12/polk-county-2.htm#comment-261361</link>
		<author>SandyHook</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 19:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/12/polk-county-2.htm#comment-261361</guid>
		<description>I have now emailed the good folks in Polk county several times.  So far no response.  The local paper, "The Ledger" has a site where there is a 35 page thread arguing about ID and science.  I put in some FSM stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have now emailed the good folks in Polk county several times.  So far no response.  The local paper, &#8220;The Ledger&#8221; has a site where there is a 35 page thread arguing about ID and science.  I put in some FSM stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: rmw</title>
		<link>http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/12/polk-county-2.htm#comment-261162</link>
		<author>rmw</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 13:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/12/polk-county-2.htm#comment-261162</guid>
		<description>@Niteshade--Focus and Blackwater?  Thought I heard something to that effect.  Wouldn't surprise me.  I do plan on emailing them, but in light of the shootings that took place at New Life Church, and Focus's connection, I'm waiting.  I seriously doubt my letter would be read right now, and I don't honestly don't want to seem disrespectful.  (Fundies annoy me, and in some extreme cases, scare me, but I still thought the shootings in Arvada, CO and here in Colorado Springs was horrific.  I just want these people off their moral high horse, I certainly don't want them dead.)
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@DPG and Starbuckaneer--I must join in and voice my complaint (again, I know) about moderation.  IMO, there is a moderated forum that is free and easy to join.  I'm all for the free flow of good discussions and mindless chatter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Niteshade&#8211;Focus and Blackwater?  Thought I heard something to that effect.  Wouldn&#8217;t surprise me.  I do plan on emailing them, but in light of the shootings that took place at New Life Church, and Focus&#8217;s connection, I&#8217;m waiting.  I seriously doubt my letter would be read right now, and I don&#8217;t honestly don&#8217;t want to seem disrespectful.  (Fundies annoy me, and in some extreme cases, scare me, but I still thought the shootings in Arvada, CO and here in Colorado Springs was horrific.  I just want these people off their moral high horse, I certainly don&#8217;t want them dead.)<br />
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@DPG and Starbuckaneer&#8211;I must join in and voice my complaint (again, I know) about moderation.  IMO, there is a moderated forum that is free and easy to join.  I&#8217;m all for the free flow of good discussions and mindless chatter.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Meier</title>
		<link>http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/12/polk-county-2.htm#comment-260795</link>
		<author>Mike Meier</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 04:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/12/polk-county-2.htm#comment-260795</guid>
		<description>I've started a thread on the forum for the discussion of moderation.  It includes a poll.
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http://www.venganza.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9197</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve started a thread on the forum for the discussion of moderation.  It includes a poll.<br />
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<a href="http://www.venganza.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9197" rel="nofollow">http://www.venganza.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9197</a></p>
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		<title>By: Starbuckaneer</title>
		<link>http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/12/polk-county-2.htm#comment-260046</link>
		<author>Starbuckaneer</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 07:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/12/polk-county-2.htm#comment-260046</guid>
		<description>Yeah, I'm not felling the moderation thing at all... I have to post... and then I don't check back at the site until the next day.  There's nothing for me to do while I'm working anymore!!! (Aside from... dare I say it... WORK?!?!?!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I&#8217;m not felling the moderation thing at all&#8230; I have to post&#8230; and then I don&#8217;t check back at the site until the next day.  There&#8217;s nothing for me to do while I&#8217;m working anymore!!! (Aside from&#8230; dare I say it&#8230; WORK?!?!?!)</p>
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		<title>By: El Peatieablo</title>
		<link>http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/12/polk-county-2.htm#comment-260038</link>
		<author>El Peatieablo</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 06:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/12/polk-county-2.htm#comment-260038</guid>
		<description>@Gryph
I was waiting to see who's letter they used. Congrats! :)
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@storm petrel
Who needs topics anyway (especially when there are fundies afoot)?
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@☠DutchPastaGuy☠
"What do want? An end to moderation!
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When do we want it? LAST WEEK!"
I'd actually settle for sometime this week, but the rest of your post seems to represent my view entirely.
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@ everybody that is a fan of FDR
"The only thing we have to moderate is moderation itself!"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Gryph<br />
I was waiting to see who&#8217;s letter they used. Congrats! :)<br />
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@storm petrel<br />
Who needs topics anyway (especially when there are fundies afoot)?<br />
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@☠DutchPastaGuy☠<br />
&#8220;What do want? An end to moderation!<br />
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When do we want it? LAST WEEK!&#8221;<br />
I&#8217;d actually settle for sometime this week, but the rest of your post seems to represent my view entirely.<br />
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@ everybody that is a fan of FDR<br />
&#8220;The only thing we have to moderate is moderation itself!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: ☠DutchPastaGuy☠</title>
		<link>http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/12/polk-county-2.htm#comment-259933</link>
		<author>☠DutchPastaGuy☠</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 03:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/12/polk-county-2.htm#comment-259933</guid>
		<description>@Mike Meier
Appreciate the extensive effort to write the Polk county folks. Same for Henerobby? and others who wrote.
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@Karen
Welcome to your new spiritual home. Hang around, post some more if you like (should get more lively once moderating of posts is done away with). And thanks for the Pastafarian vote on the BBC blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mike Meier<br />
Appreciate the extensive effort to write the Polk county folks. Same for Henerobby? and others who wrote.<br />
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@Karen<br />
Welcome to your new spiritual home. Hang around, post some more if you like (should get more lively once moderating of posts is done away with). And thanks for the Pastafarian vote on the BBC blog.</p>
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		<title>By: ☠DutchPastaGuy☠</title>
		<link>http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/12/polk-county-2.htm#comment-259926</link>
		<author>☠DutchPastaGuy☠</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 03:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/12/polk-county-2.htm#comment-259926</guid>
		<description>@Starbuckaneer
"If anyone is local (Florida…) I am STILL seriously considering attending a board meeting in Pirate Regalia to distribute Propaganda materials… if anyone would care to join me…."
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One of the former FSM disciples lives in Orlando, Florida. No idea how far that is from Polk county.
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And you may want to join the FSM disciples too. Drop me an email if interested in contact info for the FSM disciple or joining the group, t.p.c.klaver@qub.ac.uk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Starbuckaneer<br />
&#8220;If anyone is local (Florida…) I am STILL seriously considering attending a board meeting in Pirate Regalia to distribute Propaganda materials… if anyone would care to join me….&#8221;<br />
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One of the former FSM disciples lives in Orlando, Florida. No idea how far that is from Polk county.<br />
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And you may want to join the FSM disciples too. Drop me an email if interested in contact info for the FSM disciple or joining the group, <a href="mailto:t.p.c.klaver@qub.ac.uk.">t.p.c.klaver@qub.ac.uk.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mike Meier</title>
		<link>http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/12/polk-county-2.htm#comment-259924</link>
		<author>Mike Meier</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 03:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/12/polk-county-2.htm#comment-259924</guid>
		<description>I like the moderation, except that it is too slow.  The chatter here was ruining.  Often you had to skip through 10 posts or more to get back to where something useful was being said.  The coherency of the posts here does a lot to make this site more meaningful to the regulars and to new people. There is an excellent forum attached to this site were we could create new topics and go off-topic on the topics we created if we want to.  May I suggest when you get to urge, just leave a note here in a post (that will pass moderation) to point people to your forum thread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the moderation, except that it is too slow.  The chatter here was ruining.  Often you had to skip through 10 posts or more to get back to where something useful was being said.  The coherency of the posts here does a lot to make this site more meaningful to the regulars and to new people. There is an excellent forum attached to this site were we could create new topics and go off-topic on the topics we created if we want to.  May I suggest when you get to urge, just leave a note here in a post (that will pass moderation) to point people to your forum thread.</p>
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		<title>By: B☠☠ty</title>
		<link>http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/12/polk-county-2.htm#comment-259913</link>
		<author>B☠☠ty</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 03:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/12/polk-county-2.htm#comment-259913</guid>
		<description>Nice one Petey the Pirate :)
I very rarely come and visit now as the moderation has just killed the excitement IMHO :(
Please stop it Bobby!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice one Petey the Pirate :)<br />
I very rarely come and visit now as the moderation has just killed the excitement IMHO :(<br />
Please stop it Bobby!</p>
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		<title>By: Pirate Saul of Tarsus</title>
		<link>http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/12/polk-county-2.htm#comment-259818</link>
		<author>Pirate Saul of Tarsus</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 00:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/12/polk-county-2.htm#comment-259818</guid>
		<description>I say we contact the reporter:

[ John Chambliss can be reached at john.chambliss@theledger.com or 863-802-7588. ]

Let's get the word out to the people of Polk County.  If they believe in ID then the truth about our Carbo Master will definitely spread to them.

RAmen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say we contact the reporter:</p>
<p>[ John Chambliss can be reached at <a href="mailto:john.chambliss@theledger.com">john.chambliss@theledger.com</a> or 863-802-7588. ]</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s get the word out to the people of Polk County.  If they believe in ID then the truth about our Carbo Master will definitely spread to them.</p>
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		<title>By: Tina B.</title>
		<link>http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/12/polk-county-2.htm#comment-259797</link>
		<author>Tina B.</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 23:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/12/polk-county-2.htm#comment-259797</guid>
		<description>Hi fellow Pastafarians. Have any of you seen this yet? 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20071213/sc_livescience/captainkiddshipfound

Yayyy! Wanna go for a dive?? 

RAmen!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi fellow Pastafarians. Have any of you seen this yet? </p>
<p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20071213/sc_livescience/captainkiddshipfound" rel="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20071213/sc_livescience/captainkiddshipfound</a></p>
<p>Yayyy! Wanna go for a dive?? </p>
<p>RAmen!!</p>
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		<title>By: ☠DutchPastaGuy☠</title>
		<link>http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/12/polk-county-2.htm#comment-259726</link>
		<author>☠DutchPastaGuy☠</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.venganza.org/2007/12/12/polk-county-2.htm#comment-259726</guid>
		<description>Thanks everyone for the stream of votes for the FSM as being of the year that is pouring in at the BBC blog.
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On a different note: when do we get rid of this moderating? Comments being updated once a day (or less frequent still) has killed 95% of the fun of this place. It was the unmoderated, real-time conversation here that made the place attractive. Loads of foolish fun mixed with the occasional bit of serious discussion. I used to encourgae just about everyone I talked to to come and visit this place. Now there's hardly any point in being a Pastafarian evangelical anymore. Preaching something you don't have much 'faith in' yourself anymore seems distinctly lame. So say with me:
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What do want? An end to moderation!
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When do we want it? LAST WEEK!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks everyone for the stream of votes for the FSM as being of the year that is pouring in at the BBC blog.<br />
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On a different note: when do we get rid of this moderating? Comments being updated once a day (or less frequent still) has killed 95% of the fun of this place. It was the unmoderated, real-time conversation here that made the place attractive. Loads of foolish fun mixed with the occasional bit of serious discussion. I used to encourgae just about everyone I talked to to come and visit this place. Now there&#8217;s hardly any point in being a Pastafarian evangelical anymore. Preaching something you don&#8217;t have much &#8216;faith in&#8217; yourself anymore seems distinctly lame. So say with me:<br />
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What do want? An end to moderation!<br />
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When do we want it? LAST WEEK!</p>
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