aristotle on the phony religiocity of tyrants

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A tyrant must put on the appearance of uncommon devotion to religion. Subjects are less apprehensive of illegal treatment from a ruler whom they consider God-fearing and pious. On the other hand, they do less easily move against him, wrongly believing that he has the Gods on his side.

–Aristotle, Politica bk v (ca. 340 BCE)

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  1. 51 - PacificPam - Nov 27th, 2007

    Did you see Ratatouille?
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    Fcuking awesome movie!

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  2. 52 - Starbuckaneer - Nov 27th, 2007

    Good movie.

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  3. 53 - Starbuckaneer - Nov 27th, 2007

    You know, I know someone who tried to kill a rat with a shotgun. Hilarious.

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  4. 54 - PacificPam - Nov 27th, 2007

    Was she/he a hick?

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  5. 55 - Starbuckaneer - Nov 27th, 2007

    I’m not sure… it was my property manager’s husband (a couple years ago). I thought there was a mouse/rat in my wall and I called her to see what I should do about it and she told me the story. As far as my wall goes… it turned out to be a great big frog stuck in a paper shopping bag and he was trying to hop out… so all you could hear in the middle of the night was “scratch scratch scratch!” It was so funny. I felt like such an idiot when I called her back to tell her it was a frog.

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  6. 56 - PacificPam - Nov 27th, 2007

    hahahahahhahaha….You should!

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  7. 57 - Seeker of the Truth - Nov 27th, 2007

    Bush’s IQ is sooooo low.
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    How low is it?
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    There is only one person in the world with a lower IQ. A singer named Smears or Beers or something like that.
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    I don’t make them up. I pleg..er..plager..er..steal’m.

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  8. 58 - rmw - Nov 27th, 2007

    @Seeker of the Truth–at least Britney isn’t in charge of running a fucking country!

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  9. 59 - Cogito - Nov 27th, 2007

    Speaking of shotgun overkill, there was an article in the paper the other day about a guy down here trying to change his tire. He couldn’t get the last lug nut off, so he decided the easiest way to free it up would be with, you guessed it, a shotgun, at point blank range. They didn’t say if he succeeded in loosening the nut, but he did succeed in peppering himself, head to toe, with #6 shot. He was in ICU as of the printing of the article. Stupid people.

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  10. 60 - Pluto (Not sorry at all!) - Nov 27th, 2007

    @ rmw- I think it was Fahrenheit 911 when Britney said “we shouldn’t question our president” I think a lot of people in 1930’s Germany had similar ideas?

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  11. 61 - rmw - Nov 27th, 2007

    @Pluto–no doubt Britney got a medal for that little remark. Who needs democracy, right? I can’t wait til next January when this administration will be GONE!

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  12. 62 - Pluto (Not sorry at all!) - Nov 27th, 2007

    @rmw- She did take the piss out of herself for that comment on the Jack and Karen show (known by some as Will and Grace. You know? The US rip off of Gimme, Gimme, Gimme!).
    But then that girl is so flip floppy that a court decided K-Fed was a better parent than him.
    In Birt news of interest is this little gem.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7112929.stm
    And
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7114439.stm
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    Now can you guess what my comment to the BBC was?
    After reading I’m sure some of you will ask the same thing.

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  13. 63 - Wench Nikkiee - Nov 27th, 2007

    @lilwench Nov 26th, 2007 at 6:06 pm
    “Barney is their dog.”
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    “In 2006, the dog shit Bush parade is still going strong. Police say they are completely baffled as to who might be responsible….
    Legal experts claim there’s no law against using dog shit as a flag stand, although Federal legal analysts warn the Constitution is vague on the issue.”
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    Halfway down the page…is that Barney?
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    rotten.com/library/culture/dog-shit/
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    (add www ….the @#*% link wouldn’t post)

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  14. 64 - rmw - Nov 27th, 2007

    @Wench Nikkiee–LOL! Great article. Poor Barney. He looks like he was being molested. Incidentally, one of my coworkers just told us a story about watching a guy taking a dump in the middle of the street. Ah, only in Romania. (And yeah, what the hell is with this website and links? Very hit and miss.)

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  15. 65 - PacificPam - Nov 27th, 2007

    @Pluto – What do you mean by Jack and Karen Show? hahahahahahahahaha That show was amazing.
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    I don’t even want to talk about Britney…I feel that my IQ might drop a few points

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  16. 66 - Pluto (Not sorry at all!) - Nov 27th, 2007

    @PacificPam- They where to only real reason to watch that show. Most of the people I’ve talked to about it agree.
    Gimme Gimme Gimme was the English show that came years before.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/gimmegimmegimme/index.shtml
    Lynda and Tom are like Jack and Karen, which is probably why those two character are so popular over here, I don’t know about else where.

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  17. 67 - pieces o’nine - Nov 27th, 2007

    @Pluto (Not sorry at all!)
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    [@Jennyanydots
    “Just picturing from your message some poor bewildered guy thrown, slightly stickily, to the evangelists.”]
    Well if it was Ted Haggard, I’m sure he would smoke some meth in a crack pipe and tuck in!
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    Pluto, were you aware of the Rev. Ted’s denomination?
    He is a Crystal Meth-odist.
    [fx/rimshot]
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    (BTW: the fx was a joke, too…)

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  18. 68 - PacificPam - Nov 27th, 2007

    @Pluto – I have to agree with you to some point…I don’t know about Jack…too gay for my taste…but Karen was genious…Because of her I love Martinis…
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    Because of Carry (Sarah Jessica Parker) I love Cosmopolitans…girly form of martinins…
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    I like beer because of……………..I don’t know..cuz it goood!

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  19. 69 - Pluto (Not sorry at all!) - Nov 27th, 2007

    @pieces o’nine – boooo!

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  20. 70 - PacificPam - Nov 28th, 2007

    Whaever happened to the Hat Mail campaign?

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  21. 71 - rmw - Nov 28th, 2007

    @pieces o’ nine–*groan* That ranks as one of the worst (best) puns I’ve heard.
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    @PacificPam–Hate mail campaign?

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  22. 72 - PacificPam - Nov 28th, 2007

    I don’t know rmw, when I first came to the site they were talking about a Hat Mail Campaingn ore something like that…Maybe one of the oldes to the site might know….

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  23. 73 - pieces o’nine - Nov 29th, 2007

    @Pluto and rmw:
    Glad you liked that.
    I think it would make a great bumper sticker, except I live too close to the New Life Church in Colorado Springs, and I don’t want my car vandalized!

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  24. 74 - rmw - Nov 29th, 2007

    @pieces o’ nine–you live in COS!!!! So do I. That makes me happy, knowing that there are some Pastafarians balancing out the “funnymentalcases” (as the venerable Old Grouch calls them).

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  25. 75 - Pluto (Not sorry at all!) - Nov 29th, 2007

    @pieces o’nine- “…I live too close to the New Life Church in Colorado Springs, and I don’t want my car vandalized!”
    Are you suggesting that those good natured loving Christians would commit an act of hatefully violence?

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  26. 76 - pieces o’nine - Nov 29th, 2007

    @ rmw
    Not actually *in* CoSprings, just *too close* to it…
    But I was happy to find other Pastafarians posting here from this red state.
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    @ Pluto
    Suggest, no; certainly not, sir!
    Hint, maybe. Imply, infer, even. Perhaps I might go so far as to insinuate. But suggest, never!
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    If any of you are stumped on what to get that special fundy in your life this Yule, check out http://www.wearefishermen.com/splash.html. Personally, I can’t decide between “Ghost Rider JC” and “Bend It Like Bethlehem” JC.

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  27. 77 - rmw - Nov 29th, 2007

    @pieces o’ nine–technically, I don’t live *in* COS either. 15 minutes south more like. But still, any Pastafarian helps. And honestly, CO is going more “purple” than “red.” We do have democrats in office. It’s just COS and El Paso county (where Colorado Springs and the surrounding areas are at, for those of you who might actually give a damn) are red, red, red, red, red, red. Remember: God=Good, Democrats=Bad/Satan. (If it weren’t for the mountains and reasonable driving distance for skiing, all hope would be lost for Colorado Springs.)

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  28. 78 - PacificPam - Nov 29th, 2007

    @pieces o’ nine – Naaaah, I don’t think the fundies are prone to violence….*laughing way too badly*

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  29. 79 - Jennyanydots - Nov 29th, 2007

    @ rmw – more suitable presents here – http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/7116728.stm

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  30. 80 - rmw - Nov 29th, 2007

    @Jennyanydots–those are awesome! I especially liked the Pope cologne. :lol:

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  31. 81 - Old Grouch - Nov 29th, 2007

    Happy Holidays to all!
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    @jennyanydots – Where do I find one of those “saintly” memory sticks? I’ve been trying to master computers for a few years now. Would it help?
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    @rmw & pieces o’ nine – COS used to be such a nice little place to visit; and take one’s guests to see the Garden of the Gods, and the Falls, even the Zoo up by the Broadmoor. Then, on to Manitou Springs and the cog railway; and if time permitted, a drive to the top of Pike’s Peak. Ah! The “good old days” are gone forever!
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    I can’t even begin to imagine showing off Dobson’s dump as a Colorado tourist site; but, it has its own exit off I-25, sort of in competition with the Chapel of the 12 Apostles and the 5 Committeemen across the highway a bit at Fly-Boy High. (Pluto does refer to a “Grumpy old dude” on another line; and I’ll accept the description.)
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    The old tunnel on the road to Criple Creek closed off, for a road capable of accomodating all the buses headed for the casinos, and . . . . Enough already! Getting old, and bringing up memories, is out of fashion these days.
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    Anyway, snow on the back range – not really enough, but still a beautiful backdrop to sunset the past few days – and the City and County Building all lit up again, things aren’t altogether bad at that. Hope you both have a wonderful Holiday Season.

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  32. 82 - Apprentice Frederic - Nov 30th, 2007

    ….I was wondering if somebody like Machiavelli might have written about the tyranny of phony religionists, but Aristotle’s remark was more than adequate…

    @OG, didn’t realize you were a Coloradan; fled the Springs some years ago for less righteous climes, myself. I always enjoy your scholarly and balanced comments and appreciate them more, now I understand a component of your Grouchiness, LOL.

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  33. 83 - Aristotle - Dec 3rd, 2007

    I don’t know what to say here.

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