NOVA’s most recent program is about the Intelligent Design debate over the last few years. They’ve put together an excellent companion website, and as of November 16th, you can watch the entire program online - I highly recommend it. NOVA always does a fantastic job on their programs and this is no exception.
My one criticism is that they neglected to mention the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster’s role in the Intelligent Design vs Science debate.
The Church is funded entirely by your purchases of FSM merchandise. Thank you for your support.
An elaborate spoof on Intelligent Design, The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is neither too elaborate nor too spoofy to succeed in nailing the fallacies of ID. It's even wackier than Jonathan Swift's suggestion that the Irish eat their children as a way to keep them from being a burden, and it may offend just as many people, but Henderson, described elsewhere as a 25-year-old "out-of-work physics major," puts satire to the same serious use that Swift did. Oh, yes, it is very funny. -- Scientific American
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We are awesomes! AWESOMES!
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I liked the CNN report, though.
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Did you guys get to see Fox News and their “Virgin Mary and baby Jesus in a Pancake” report? It was newsbreak!
The Dover school board’s rapid evolution from creationists to “cdesign proponentsists.” to “design proponents” is classic! Yet they repeatedly deny that evolutionary transitional forms exist. :p)))
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http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/transcripts/3416_id_10.html
“NICK MATZKE: So the correct term for this transitional form is “cdesign proponentsists.” And everyone now refers to this as the missing link between creationism and intelligent design. You’ve got the direct physical evidence there of a transitional fossil.”
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hehehehehehehe…..
RAmen
RAmen indeed. Morning Nikkiee :) How did the exams go?
When people say there is no evidence of evolution, show them a fossil. If they contintue saying there is no proof of evolution wing the fossil at them. Maybe it hitting them in the head will drive home the point…
Hi DPG
OK :)
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@Niteshade
“Maybe it hitting them in the head will drive home the point…”
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Ok :) But how do you get them to bend over first?
For a real bunch of . . . well, I guess I should be nice about it . . . so, I’ll just use that word, “fundies”, that seems to be the “one size fits all” hereabouts . . . anyway, browsing around the Internet the other day, I ran across OBJECTIVE Ministries.org. - Where I was informed that all dinosaurs were vegetarians; and that those like tyranosaurus rex used those terrible teeth to crack coconuts. (And I thought LandoverBaptist was whacko!) Anyway, I just throw that in, since Niteshade mentioned fossils. These guys - at OBJECTIVE, etc., - have an answer for everything, fossils included. Or, to ask another question: Even if you managed to drive the point home, how would you penetrate the solid bone between the ears?
@Old Grouch
“I ran across OBJECTIVE Ministries.org”
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Lucky you (:))
There’s a good article about a dino hunting expedition at Objective Ministries.
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http://objectiveministries.org/creation/dinoexpedition.html
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Oh and did you sign their prayer book while you were over there?
@Nikkiee
“There’s a good article about a dino hunting expedition at Objective Ministries.”
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Oh my FSM! And claiming to have found them too, to refute the claims by those evil evolutionists that there is no such thing a creation science. I’m sure we’re all convinced no, right people. Right?! Uhmmmm, people? HELLOOOH?
When scientists fill a “gap” is between fossils A and B, with transitional form C, creationists/IDers then claim there are now two gaps, between A and C, and C and D! So, as science progresses, evolution will produce more and more “gaps.”
Great film. Nova always makes very good shows. I love to watch them. But I am still waiting for a FSM episode of Nova though.
“John loves Mary” sounds like it might be a subtle clue to john the babtist and Mary (the gal who gave birth to jesus). Sort of like in The DaVinci code.
I agree that nova is very good at whatever it does
Yet i was watching that very documentary and wondered where the FSM was
I do not understand intelligent designists the pastafarian creation makes much more sense
FSM bless you all
R’amen
Wow, I had Tivo’d it and I just finished watching it (at 2:18am, gulp!)
But I can’t go to bed, I’m all pumped up. I feel like I just watched a Superbowl where my team completely annihilated the opponent. And then the joy to watch their sour faces.
This NOVA episode is going to stay on my Tivo for a long time.
My favorite part is the argument against the “irreducible complexity”. At first I had no idea how they would answer to that. And quite frankly I always thought that was the ONE good argument on the ID side. I’m glad I watched this NOVA, now I have the tools to repeal the “irreducible complexity” argument the next time a crazy creationist throw it at me.
Bravo NOVA. The finest of television that is.
Perhaps FSM wasn’t mentioned because we are too small to be considered a “real” religion, yet not culty enough (like hiding in caves–see previous thread) to warrant their attention. So, we either need to get more members or we need to lock ourselves up somewhere and threaten explosives. I’d rather go the more members route–it seems less likely anybody would go prison or die over that. But hey whatever works…
@Wench Nikkiee
I had a look at the dino link.
http://objectiveministries.org/creation/dinosaurs.html
Fucking hilarious!
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“Dinosaurs are large, reptilian land animals that lived in great abundance over 4000 years ago (”There were giants in the earth in those days” [Gen 6:4]), and were mostly wiped out during the Flood. Contrary to the depictions of them from Hollywood, dinosaurs were herbivorous (”he eateth grass as an ox.” [Job 40:15]) and lived concurrently and in peace with man.”
Funny that’s not what palaeontologist think! What could the explination be!
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“They did not live 65 million years ago, as evolutionists claim, since nothing but God existed then.”
Oh I see. So the scientists are wrong, and all the evidence you need is “becase the bible says so” what a brilient argument.
Completely flawless in is simplicity!
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This is a good one “Pre-Noachian man tried to tame the dinosaur, wishing to use its might for evilness and arrogantly thinking himself as mighty as the Lord.” So that’s why god took them away from us! So simple.
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“Dinosaurs have been a favorite propaganda tool for evolutionists since the 19th century, and continue to be used to promote the pseudoscientific religion of Evolutionism in the Secular media.”
See and all this time I thought that the idea of dinosaurs living 65 million years ago was pre Darwin. Those crafty evolutionists are travelling back in time to mess with history!
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“The appeal of dinosaurs to kids is of particular interest to Evolutionists since it allows them to gain easy and willing access the minds of our children”
We are so bad! Check out the pic of the dude petting a T-rex, classic!
The documentary was cool. I liked how all the under handed tactics and lying were being done by the Christians. What a bunch of cunts!
Arrrgh!
*moving in desperation across the office*
*stops suddenly*
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Ohhhh so they are hidden somewhere….now I get it…Jurassic Park is fucking true! I knew it!!!!!!!!!
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Ok, so the flood was not to wipe out evil from earth, rather to destroy the dinosaurs because they were mean…
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I am confused *confused*