I just kinda stumbled across your FSM website and it’s unlike anything I’ve ever heard of. I’d first of all like to say that the entire FSM idea is very brilliant (I’m not sure who thought of it, but it’s a very creative way of communicating the point of separation between church and state). I think what many Christians posting on your site don’t consider is how upset they would be if someone else’s beliefs being taught to their children.
Of course. I’m a Christian (surprise)… haha I know you get lots of emails from us, but I just want to apologize. I didn’t read everything on the website, but in the half an hour or so I spent lurking around I failed to find even one positive thing posted by a Christian. Anyways. I’d like to just say I’m sorry that we have been so threating, demanding, and rude. In fact the Christ we claim to follow and aim to live like is a virtual polar opposite of what most of the accounts (I read) seemed to portray.
So I apologize for doing Jesus a horrible injustice. I hope your opinion of Him will not be too masked by our horrible representation.
Thanks,
Annie
- I do receive many nice, not at all hateful, emails from Christians, I just rarely post them as the hatemail seems to interest people more. -bobby
That’s very sweet - nice to see some Christian Love Mail for once!
Anna you are an ethical person by the sound of it, with or without Christ. The targets of this particular wake up call (FSM) are those who believe that the would fail to be ethical if their church disappeared and do harm trying to defend this absurd viewpoint.
CC
Thanks Annie!
Silver in the hold for the Cap’n
ArrrrrAmen!
“So I apologize for doing Jesus a horrible injustice.”
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Well, I hope it’s not you who are the one doing the injustice!
A close run thing though CC…
” I just rarely post them as the hatemail seems to interest people more. -bobby”
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Really?
Next post please!
CC
@TPR
Have you noticed how the first posts in recent threads are often very short? I wonder why that is.
RAmen Annie
“In fact the Christ we claim to follow and aim to live like is a virtual polar opposite of what most of the accounts (I read) seemed to portray.”
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Which accounts would these be?
I know of four accounts which are widely read and some others which were recently discovered in Nag Hamadi and Qumran. If he is the polar opposite of his portrayal in these accounts then that actually makes him a pretty nasty piece of work! The problem with Christ as a teacher of ethics is that he supports his teachings with references to bizarre and arcane Hebrew texts which in turn refer to metaphysical ideas like an omnicient and omnipotent supreme being who allegedly made the world in seven days and mad women out of some guys rib!
I ask you why didi it take him so long? His Wibbley-Wobbliness gets the whole job done in a day, with the most part done in 12 minutes at a gentle simmer just before lunchtime!
RAmen!
bobby
“I do receive many nice, not at all hateful, emails from Christians, I just rarely post them as the hatemail seems to interest people more. -bobby”
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I think it’s a case of not being able to respond with a lot when we can do nothing but agree with the niceemails. Hatemail certainly gives us a lot more mileage for indulging in smartarsery :p
‘mad women’
that should be ‘made women’ but mad women are quite alright by me!
In fact there are plenty aboard the Golden Beaver!
ArrrrrAmen
Captain Codpiece
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I think Annie was referring to the hatemailer posts on CoFSM that claim to be speaking for Christ.
I don’t think she should appologise on their behalf though as most (all) of them obviously have an entirely different take on Jesus and the bible to what she does.
CC said:
“@TPR
Have you noticed how the first posts in recent threads are often very short? I wonder why that is?”
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Hmm. I’ve no idea. Nor do I have any idea why my first post was incredibly short and then quickly followed by another longer one.
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What strange times we live in.
Nice to see that sane polite christians are willing to voice their opinions too and that they don’t all just sit quietly while the loud-mouths are spewing curses and insults.
“@TPR
Have you noticed how the first posts in recent threads are often very short? I wonder why that is?”
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Hmm. I’ve no idea. Nor do I have any idea why my first post was incredibly short and then quickly followed by another longer one.
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What strange times we live in.
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His Noodliness does work in mysterious ways. His wonders to behold and then be eaten!
ArrrAmen
I still love the “Your a joke” mail better.
@Annie. Thank you for spreading the loooove.
Wohoo…I claim…clam chowder for the 18th post. That is the earliest I have ever posted, and I love clam chowder.
@Pam
Try to get 500th post on the ‘your a joke’ That would be a real coup!
CC
I don’t think much of the love mail either. The one good thing going for it, is that for once it isn’t all about killing and threatening us. I find the lack of hostility to be very un-xian like speak.
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I just had an unexpected visit from my best friend from school who has become more fundy as the years have gone by. After the first day of arguing, we agreed to disagree, and although I can’t say either of us respects the others point of view on religion, we did manage to enjoy our time together.
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Had we been of a different ilk (meaning, had she been more interfering, we probably would have spent those four days together in one big screaming match). And this from a person who knows me better than anyone in the world, even my husband.
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So my view…religion screws up almost everything that is good in the world.
Fuck, I was so immersed (spelling?) in the “youre a joke” mail that I forgot this one.
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Captain I had the 100th post, in one of these ones, the other day.
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Iron Bess. You are back. Did you have sex already?
@Iron Bess
“So my view…religion screws up almost everything that is good in the world.”
So right! I think Christopher Hitchens says exactly that!
By the way it’s a bit ironic being an atheist called Chistopher which means carrier of christ in Greek (he was the dude that supposedly carried christ ove a river and got to be patron saint of travellers! A lot of good he did at Lockerbie!
@IronBess
“I just had an unexpected visit from my best friend from school who has become more fundy as the years have gone by. After the first day of arguing, we agreed to disagree, and although I can’t say either of us respects the others point of view on religion, we did manage to enjoy our time together”
I have the same type of relationship with my ex-psuedo mother in law (don’t ask). I love her dearly but she is so over the top about her religious beliefs it can be a strain on our relationship. When I told her I wasn’t raising my daughter Xtian she nearly cried. It can be very difficult to have a conversation with someone who lives in a completly different reality than myself.
On the flipside of our movement, she recently went to her daughter’s school to ensure that they were not teaching her daughter evolution. This was a result of finding out that the school classified humans with animals. FSM forbid her child might learn a different viewpoint and possibly learn to think for herself.
She prays for me regularly. I am new to FSM so I can’t wait to inform her that I will be eating pasta for her!
RAmen!
@beefcupcake - poor you. At least I only see my fundy friend once every five years or so. Of course I would be going to the school to ensure that they were not teaching ID to my child. I honestly would have been devastated if my kid had grown up to be xian.
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I have a really good friend who said that he was laying in bed with his wife talking about the baby they were about to have, and they both decided that whatever the child turned out to be, normal, handicap, teacher, lawyer, garbageman, gay, straight or even a criminal. They could handle it, but if the kid ended up being a born-again, they probably would have to disown it.
@Captain Codpiece - the irony is that my real name means Messanger of Christ (or the lord, depending on interpretation). So I make sure that my message is always this, “The message from christ is that there is no such thing as an all knowing, all powerful, diety, who listens to and answers prayers. Get a life, get in touch with reality!”
Nice mail, Annie; may you be touched by His Noodly Appendage. ;-)
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@Iron Bess :
Don’t give up the ship on your friend; there is an outside chance she will come to her sense under the good influence of continuing contact with sensible people like yourself. I had a dear friend who got ‘born again’ (ouch!!!) and became impossible for several long, awkward years. During that time she afflicted me with zombie quotes, pitifully lame “clean, godly” jokes, and random witnessing. I found all this comical as I was raised in a very religious household (albeit a different branch than the one she embraced), yet had not bludgeoned her with bible quotes during her wild, unchurched years prior to the Big Conversion. Eventually, she tired of it and she’s almost fully recovered now.
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If your friend is unable to break the shackles of fundamentalist dogma, there is no reason *you* can’t have a little fun. Send her custom-made Christmas cards prominently featuring the FSM: as a Great Star in the Sky (don’t forget the mountain ‘to go tell it on’, the trees and midgit!) with His noodly appendages radiating blessings and light; or as *all three* Wise Men, bearing gifts of Pasta, Sauce, and Parmesan; or perhaps even as baby meatballs, swaddled in sauce and lying on a manger of pasta…mmm…
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Really, the creative possibilities are endless. Don’t forget to calligraph an Uplifting Message (TM) on the inside: “Cheeses are the Reason for the Season” or “Pasta on Earth” or some such. And don’t forget to solemnly reply to *any* religious message with a heartfelt “RAmen!”
@Annie
How refreshing to hear that some people have the ability to do a little research (ie: reading the open letter) before giving their opinion. Cheers ta ya!!
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St John the Blasphemist
Saint of Informed Opinions
That made my night!!
Does anybody here have a link for Google?
I need to look something up.
@Peter Popoff
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Are you serious?
“Len Guini Oct 27th, 2007 at 6:25 pm
@Peter Popoff
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Are you serious?”
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Yea, I’m still hoping to find a link.
@ Annie, You’re just a normal xtain from my point of view.
I know plenty in the real world.
Here on the net though, and probably at it’s worst at this site, there aren’t many.
You get to see all the diehard nuts, on both sides of the fence here.
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You understand why bobby created this thing to begin with.
He didn’t set out to tear down the xtian churches, or even destroy those of faith.
Just to keep them from forcing themselves in our public school system,
was the part I understood as well.
Which is a great thing, you get that part, as do most xtains.
And the way he did that by incorporating satire is awesome.
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Anyway, if you’re still lurking about here, forgive the diehard haters that are around this site.
The xtains and the pastafarian ones as well.
They are not a part of mainstream society, you knew that anyway.
http://www.google.com
@beefcupcake
“She prays for me regularly. I am new to FSM so I can’t wait to inform her that I will be eating pasta for her!”
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Or have a beer for her, it’s highly revered within Pastafarianism.
“Len Guini Oct 28th, 2007 at 10:46 am
http://www.google.com”
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Awesome, Thanks!
Now to remember what I was looking for…
Peter Popoff
“just a normal xtain from my point of view. I know plenty in the real world.”
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What exactly is a “normal” xtain and which brand of religion do they worship?
“Sirius Oct 29th, 2007 at 12:34 am
Peter Popoff
“just a normal xtain from my point of view. I know plenty in the real world.”
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“What exactly is a “normal” xtain”
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You know, those 7ft tall people that are over your head.
You do know right?
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“and which brand of religion do they worship?”
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I’ll let you figure that one out all by yourself.
Aww can we keep her? She’s one of the rare non-hypocritical Chrisitans!
Assuming either the Left Wing or the Right Wing gained control of the country, it would probably fly around in circles.
Eat a third and drink a third and leave the remaining third of your stomach empty. Then, when you get angry, there will be sufficient room for your rage.