I received this today. I decided to assume an email about hatemail copyright issues implies consent for posting here.
Dear Sir
I am not a writing to you to join your long list of “hate mail” attached to your wall I’m just offering some advise in which i suffer knowledge of in which have been expressed by the website (Including the address of http://www.venganza.org/). Though i do no have any formal expertise this is a area i have studied in the past and would like to bring to your attention.
Creative works are covered under international treaty as copyright which includes but is not exclusive to Email messages, handwritten notes, books, computer programs and web pages are all creative works and they are all protected by copyright. Put basically anything that is intellectual material other then your own DOES NOT belong to you. And therefore can not be copied without expressed permission.
In some circumstances sending an email creates an implied license for personal uses. Thought is would be extremely hard to prove in cases where copyright is attached. Also the uses or publication of names, email address and any other personal information without permission and protection is controled by The Data Protection Act (US:1998,2000 UK:1998,1986). And in this case would leave the publisher and affiliates liable to prosecution.
I do not wish to refefer to any specific violoation but i hope this information is of some use to you. Thank you for your time.
Yours Faithfully
James
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Captain Planet, did you write my divorce decree?? Didn’t you get my red-inked copy back? That should have taught you something!
@ Pluto Sorry for your recent demotion buddy, you’re still a planet to me. I think it was just a desperate attempt by a few astronomers to get their names in the news for 2 seconds so they might have a shot at getting some before they turned 50.
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Oh wow, I just realised, doesn’t Jesus being God’s son when Mary is married to another man make JC a big ol’ bastard? Doesn’t mean as much today, but should still get some mileage out of a few fundies!
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@WC – by George girl, I think possibly you are onto something. And what gives god the right to go around impregnating virgin girls anyway? I wonder if it was consensual? I wonder how old she was? That makes Jebus not only a bastard, but also the product of rape. Doesn’t the bible frown upon all of that stuff and talk about the sons bearing the deeds of their fathers for many generations?
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The key attribute indicative of skillful communication in the written medium is the aspiration to transfer a maximum level of information while simultaneously actively limiting the length of said statement to the smallest number of words possible and still accurately conveying the author’s intended message. To this end, improper use of words simply to make oneself sound educated, will have a detrimental effect on your target audience. Overly verbose statements should be avoided. Succinct, precise communication should be your goal.
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The key to good writing is accurately conveying your point while limiting the length of your message.
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Write less. Say more.
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This point is lost on James.
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OEJ, Ship’s Navigator
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Iron Bess writes:
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“And what gives god the right to go around impregnating virgin girls anyway? I wonder if it was consensual? ”
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Afterwards, do you think god asked, “So was it good for you?” My guess is he rolled off Mary, snatched a beer from the fridge, and made a quick exit, mumbling something about calling her later.
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If this happened today, Mary would be suing God for support, there would be a bootleg video on the internet of the conception, and instead of being called the Almighty Father, God would be known as “the baby-daddy”.
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OEJ
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@OEJ – LOL. The Almighty Horn-Dog you mean. Apparently he did call her later, but only enough to get her in trouble with the family and neighbours.
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Maybe thats why some fundies are against abortion EVEN in cases of rape…it simply wouldn’t do to outlaw forced reproduction, otherwise how would we have begotten the son of dog?
cheers
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What other religion can boast that non-believers provide free legal advice? What a great religion we have. And here I thought it got no better than beer and strippers and pirate hats.
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I think that if someone is going to write an “official sounding” letter, he/she should probably check their spelling, grammar, and puncutation before pushing the SUBMIT button.
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It was as official sounding as all those great scam e-mails I get daily telling me I have won the lotto, or I can pretend to be a dead guys relative, or that there is a job openning just for me, or that I can help out some dying widow. The OP was THAT official sounding. LOL
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This guy has the same level knowledge of copyright law as my 8 month old nephew.
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Usually, I like reading the hate mail and laughing at the authors, but this one I just kind of feel bad for. I hope for his sake that he isn’t an adult. I’d hate to think that James has already reached his intellectual prime.
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I reached my most mature when I was 13, it has been all downhill since then…23 years later.
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Hehehe to the one just above me by rob.
It’s always so funny laughing at the guys who fall for those e-mails.
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here is my feeling
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http://xkcd.com/14/
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From the “10 Big Myths” site that Jyubokku linked above:
“Posting E-mail is technically a violation, but revealing facts from E-mail you got isn’t, and for almost all typical E-mail, nobody could wring any damages from you for posting it. The law doesn’t do much to protect works with no commercial value”
So…technically yes, but no, not really.
Much like fan fiction, who is really going to do anything about it? o_0
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I’m so sorry to inform you but e-mails ARE NOT private documents. It should be in your e-mail program/websites Terms and Conditions or EULA. You know that thing where you just push “Accept”. try reading it sometime =)
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I missed the point of that…
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I guess if that’s true, I’d have to stop forwarding e-mails… I might get sued for stealing intellectual properties.
But I believe His Holy Pasta has plans (meal plans) to allow us to pursue this quest.
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Advise, you mean Advice? Because THAT would be helpful.
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Hey James you got any “refefer” to spare? It makes a good herb addition for holy meat sauce.
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Grammar errors give this away immediately.
Following in brackets, errors; first paragraph:
“I am not [a] writing to you…” -a?
“…attached to your wall[ ]I’m just offering…” -run-on sentence.
“…some [advise]{ in which [i] suffer knowledge of in which} have been expressed…” -should be advice -capitalize I -nonsensical phrase poorly masking the attempt to sound intelligent.
“Though [i] do [no] have any…” -capitalization -not.
“…this is [a] area {i} have studied…” -an before vowel -missed I capitalization again (last time I note this).
Did this person stay awake in their remedial English class?
I feel no need to cite the errors in the second paragraph. First sentence is a lie. also contains punctuation errors; also “and” should not begin a sentence.
Third paragraph:
“Thought is would…” -should be ‘Though this would…’.
“…email address and any” -comma missing “…address, and…”
last sentence is a lie.
Closing:
“I do not wish to [refefer] to any specific [violoation] but i hope this information is of some use to you. Thank you for your time.” -refer -violation.
This concludes my Grammar Nazi corrections for this topic, thank you.
RAMEN,
-piraterenegade.
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Another note, people sending the hate-mail should have noticed by now that there is a section on this site dedicated to unsolicited hate-mail. Since they should know about it, they would not send something they would not want published here. They are sending it to Bobby, who owns a website of the subject being attacked, so it is relevant and he is perfectly free to publish HIS mail on HIS website. Since the letters are about this website, that makes them relevant to the subject and they will get published. He gives credit but not any sensitive info, therefore knowingly sending the mails indeed entitles him to publish them. If the sender did not fill out a form, nor pay for a copyright, any claims of infringement can be considered defamation.
Also, anyone using “gay” as a derogatory term can suffer penalty as slander and hate. Calling us “gay” slanders us and expresses hate for homosexuals. The Church of the FSM accepts people of all sexuality, see #4 in the 8 recommendations (I really rather you didn’t).
RAMEN,
piraterenegade.
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@ Wench Cyka, hello are you a Pagan? that’s great! sorry to hear you live in a hick town, try moving to New Orleans, where Vampires walk around the French Quarter right in front of the cathedral and don’t get hassled, because in the Crescent City, the Occult rules.
Also ‘Christ’ is not his name, it is the Greek word for ‘Messiah’, both meaning “anointed One in English.
@One Eyed Jack Oct 9th, 2007 at 10:08 am -wow, and thank you for that. also, next comment is the best ‘blasphemy’ I’ve seen today.
@ wone-eyed wonderkin, http://xkcd.com/14/ sweet, thnx.
@Verybland Dec 7th, 2007 at 11:21 pm very true and thanks for sharing that info.
anyway, Peace, RAMEN, and Pyrates,
~pirateanarchist
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“I am not a writing to you to join your long list of “hate mail” attached to your wall I’m just offering some advise in which i suffer knowledge of in which have been expressed by the website”
How do you suffer knowledge? I find that the most hilarious part of the letter.
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