I’ve stumbled across your site and I have decided to leave my opinions of it out of this email. I do, however, have a few questions.
In the letter sent by you to the Kansas School Board you state:
“It is for this reason that I’m writing you today, to formally request that this alternative theory be taught in your schools, along with the other two theories.”
Correct me if I’m wrong, but doesn’t Pastafarianism fall under the term “Intelligent Design” and is not a third theory? I could also be mistaken in the fact that I thought the idea of teaching “Intelligent Design” was to include the existence of one or multiple creators as a theory, which would include Pastafarianism. Please correct me if this is not the case.
If I am correct in that Pastafarianism is part of “Intelligent Design” and not it’s own theory I still don’t see it being mentioned in schools. The reason being is it’s size and knowledge of it. I’m sure teachers will briefly discuss different sub-theories of “Intelligent Design”, but will stick with the most common such as Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, and maybe a few other well know sub-theories. It would be almost impossible to include every sub-theory out there and I’m afraid yours may be left out. If in time your sub-theory grows in popularity, maybe, but not yet.
If I’m wrong in that Pastafarianism is part of “Intelligent Design” and not it’s own theory then please let me know in full detail of where I have made my mistake.
Sincerely,
Clayton
*update*
I sometimes reply to these types of emails. I sent Clayton this response, which I thought was very polite:
“Hey, FSM is more popular than you think. We have more support than the other Intelligent Design theory (but less money). I posted your message up on the site (it will publish oct 1, in the criticism section. I invite you to read the responses, and feel free to respond to those, etc. Later,
-bobby”
Clayton responded with this:
Actually the email I sent you, if you mind taking a look, has a copyright notice at the bottom. Posting it on your website would be in clear violation of copyright law. I don’t wish to take legal action, but I will protect my rights.
P.S. You also did not answer my question which leads me to believe I am right in my assumptions.
Sincerely,
Clayton
I was shocked. To be fair, Clayton’s email did arrive with this footer:
Copyright 2007 © Clayton XXXXXXX. All rights Reserved.
(I edited out his last name.)
My reply:
“Hey tard, sending an email – like a letter – creates an implied license for certain uses. I am well within my rights to share the email YOU SENT ME with whoever I like. If I was a dick, I could have posted your full name and email address, but I didn’t. If you’d like to take legal action, be my guest.
Sincerely,
Bobby Henderson
Copyright FOREVER! © Bobby Henderson, All rights Reserved, especially ones I made up.”
@All Wenches & Pirates
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About atheism as a religion:
http://www.inthepursuitofgod.com/forum/miscellaneous-topics/6409-creation-museum-3.html#post85952
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hah. owned. nice job bobby.
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I was having a look at conservapedia’s article on Atheism http://www.conservapedia.com/Atheism and noticed the “effectiveness of atheist debaters”. it says that fundies always win the debate. does this site not stand testimony to the fact that the fundie ALWAYS loses, and ends up being publicly humiliated?
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@Commodore Angryy
Nice link. Have you checked out their article on “bias”? It’s a bit short and kinda sketchy. Surprisingly, the FSM one doesn’t seem too bad.
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fundies make me giggle.
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“Don’t you think that’s a being bit fallacious?”
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I guess, if you’re Christian, fallacies are a given…
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But you haven’t said you’re Christian.
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I don’t think he has to, Aris! It goes without saying form the rest of his arguments.
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@Clayton – You need to realize that Mr. henderson’s main objective is make sure that pastafarianism is taught in sceince class if ID is taught.
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PS Clayton, just throwing a copyright symbol on something is not a copyright. You must actually apply for and receive a copyright from the US copyright office.
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Booty Oct 1st, 2007 at 3:02 am
“I don’t think he has to, Aris! It goes without saying form the rest of his arguments.”
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I’m not going to assume anything…
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I, for one, would hate it if UD was taught in school. UD is fun and exciting and a good way to think when drunk. But, if made into a class, and tested on, they will kill all the good out of it, and make it boring and lame, just like Sunday School.
Clayton, I think you had noble intentions, but see, what you did was start yelling, “Dude, no dude, I’m trying to be serious now, stop laughing dude, I am trying to be serious here,” long after everyone has started laughing uncontrolably. It is a no-win situation for you….unless you learn to laugh at yourself. Hence, the pompus ass commments.
The common mistake is to assume that if evolution is wrong (and evolution has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BEGINNING OF THE UNIVERSE, but I digress into reality), than ID must be the only other option.
If evolution is proven wrong, it will be replaced by another, more sound scientific theory….which ID is not. It is like having this ugly annoying girl who really likes you, but you want to date this hot, friendly chick. If the hot chick turns you down, it does not mean you have to settle for the ugly chick. It means you search again for an even better hot, smart, and friendly chick.
ID is the ugly, annoying chick.
FSM is the ugly but funny chick you’d bang if drunk enough.
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But niether should be taken to the Prom. Or anywhere out in public places (like schools).
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You have good way of explaining it, Rob. :)
I totally agree with you.
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@Rob – Are you saying that the CoFSM is a fat girl or moped? Fun to ride, just don’t let your friends find out.
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Hey pixel pete and aristotle (the great for various reasons) are back recently.
Hi guys. long time, no see!
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Hi, Rub El Hizb. What’s up?
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Pompous ass tard is going right up there with one of my other favourites…..”smug assclown” :)
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It is good to see Aristotle (previously God of Satire) and Pixel Pete (wench magnet :p) back posting.
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@Nikkiee – CoFSM is drawing me back. :)
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Aristotle, God of Procrastination Oct 1st, 2007 at 8:40 am
“I’m not going to assume anything…”
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I’m assuming Clayton is a paid up member of the IDiot brigade. They use a certain type of rhetoric where they never explicitly state what they are saying or what they mean. The YECs usually just blatantly shout fire and brimstone…and far more obvious ignorance at you.
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Aristotle, Some Sort of Something or Other Oct 1st, 2007 at 5:09 pm
“Nikkiee – CoFSM is drawing me back. :)”
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Yep :)) It’s never lets go of me.
I go to a few other anti ID forums and blogs, but CoFSM is always home. Like a big comfy favourite lounge chair. (:))
I think it’s because of the people the site attracts. :)))
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Wench Nikkiee Oct 1st, 2007 at 5:16 pm
“I’m assuming Clayton is a paid up member of the IDiot brigade. They use a certain type of rhetoric where they never explicitly state what they are saying or what they mean.”
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Yes, you might be right. He never said outright that he is a Christian. It seems to me that he was avoiding it.
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Wench Nikkiee Oct 1st, 2007 at 5:22 pm
“Aristotle, Some Sort of Something or Other Oct 1st, 2007 at 5:09 pm
‘Nikkiee – CoFSM is drawing me back. :)’
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Yep :)) It’s never lets go of me.
I go to a few other anti ID forums and blogs, but CoFSM is always home. Like a big comfy favourite lounge chair. (:))
I think it’s because of the people the site attracts. :)))”
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The good and the bad…
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@Nikkiee
“It is good to see Aristotle (previously God of Satire) and Pixel Pete (wench magnet :p) back posting.”
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Why thank you! You know I’d never leave my wenches alone for too long!
RAmen
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@Aristotle, Some Sort of Something or Other Oct 1st, 2007 at 5:37 pm
“The good and the bad…”
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and the ugly.. :p))
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@Pixel Pete Oct 1st, 2007 at 5:46 pm
” You know I’d never leave my wenches alone for too long!”
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Yes (:))
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One-eyed Wonderkin said: “Are you saying that the CoFSM is a fat girl or moped? Fun to ride, just don’t let your friends find out.”
Well, maybe not THAT ugly. FSM is a great drinking buddy or babe, but not the one you marry.
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@Wenchy
“Wench Nikkiee
Sep 29th, 2007 at 6:11 am
….Paris Hilton :)”…Hello…
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Hi Thumper
Yes :)) Good to hear from you again.
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psst. Red Dutch is still seriously looking for you….says she wants to *talk* bout a cat at a barbeque…oh and something about frying pans. Careful! }:-}
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You’re an early wabbit ’tis morn.
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Flying spagetti monster is pretty cool..
People who have a problem with it should fuck off..
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Why is ID or UD just mentioned alongside evolution. Surely physics and geology have just as dubious hypotheses ( not to be confused with theories) and mean we should not teach any science without ID/UD context? Come to think of it ancient history has a few problems too what with the earth only being 6,000 years old and all that. It should have some context of how FSM did all those cave paintings?
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@nun other – the FSM was smashed and desided to write on the walls. The FSM has plenty of appendages some it would not have taken too long.
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It is all a test of faith. The FSM placed false information and allows science to develop technologies liek carbon dating to shake loose the faithless.
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I think he made a good point there.
But I think the schools should teach just our ID wearing pirat hats and etc…
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What about Frisbeetarianism? The belief that, when you die, your soul goes up on the roof and gets stuck up there. Not a personal belief, mind you, I’m all for beer volcanoes and stripper factories. Especially now that somewhere on this site someone cleared up the rather troubling notion that it was all female strippers. As long as my Pastafarian Heaven has a male stripper factory and an occasional switch to margarita volcanoes, all is good.
RAmen
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@ one-eyed wonderkin
I think it should be important to have school trips so as the kids can see His noodley artwork, probaly best to go in the sixth form though so as they can get smashed too and fully appreciate it.
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@Linguini Lass Oct 3rd, 2007 at 9:38 am
“As long as my Pastafarian Heaven has a male stripper factory and an occasional switch to margarita volcanoes, all is good.”
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Well it is heaven after all, so whatever you desire. :) Saucy Wench and I have booked front row seats next to the Margarita Volcanoe…be sure to find, and join us :)
RAmen
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I want a Margarita on arrival so I’ll see you there.
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copy right my ASS!. don’t you have to file out specific forms for a copy right to be valid? ( i could be wrong on that) but you showed him booby, you own!
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bobby, srry
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@Name
“bobby, srry”
.Freudal slips are funny!
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Story 1: The waitress was delivering my friends soup and was going to warn him that it was really hot, but ended up saying “Be careful, you’re hot!”
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Story 2: Another friend of mine was eating breakfast with his wife and he was going to ask her to pass the butter. He actually said “Bitch you ruined my life.”
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Anyway, you’ll get plenty of boobies in heaven (unless you like dudes, in which case it may have been a simple typo and not a freudal slip at all).
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Actually copyright is an intrinsic right – you don’t need to apply for it like trademark or patent.
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http://www.jeffcohenstudio.com/bagoftoast/
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You guys have just cost me about an hour of my life! I hope you’re proud of yourselves.
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Don’t let this moron with the copyright fetish intimidate you.
Posting an email is well within “fair use” of copyrighted material. So don’t sweat it.
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It is also difficult to see what damages Clayton could claim.
Unless he intends to show that by letting everyone read his email people will realise what a assclown he is.
Though a reasonable defence could be that given that he did write the letter, presumably most people who have met him already know he is or are inevitably going to find out.
That is the alledged embarassing revelation is no revelation at all!
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claton you are a retard ok
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Isn’t Clayton the secretly gay dad from the Moral Oral cartoon?
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Beyonce is a squirrel??
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what kind of jackass makes copyright to his own emails.
imagine him going to the patents office and paying for it. jajajajaja retard
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@Faryshta
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You know, the odd thing is I actually can imagine that.
Clayton: “Hello, mr copyright guy. I have this astonishingly well-thought-out email which could revolutionise the history of the ID debate in the specific field of Pastafarianism.”
Patents guy : *Dialdialdial* *bringgg* “Hello? Looney asylum?…”
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GO BOBBY! Kick some serious pseudo-intellectual ass!
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