Comments on: Why pick Christians? http://www.venganza.org/2007/09/15/why-pick-christians/ Sat, 20 Mar 2010 06:34:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: littleanimal http://www.venganza.org/2007/09/15/why-pick-christians/#comment-687196 littleanimal Fri, 28 Nov 2008 14:30:49 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2007/09/15/why-pick-christians.htm#comment-687196 "There may be different branches that do the same but as a whole, not all Christians are asshats who try to convert others." The ones that don't are not the problem. What's with the hatemail? Why pick us? “There may be different branches that do the same but as a whole, not all Christians are asshats who try to convert others.”

The ones that don’t are not the problem.

What’s with the hatemail? Why pick us?

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]]> By: Dan http://www.venganza.org/2007/09/15/why-pick-christians/#comment-687066 Dan Fri, 28 Nov 2008 11:28:29 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2007/09/15/why-pick-christians.htm#comment-687066 Walter (#171) - I saw the attack on Mormons and Catholics but nothing against the FSM, are you feeling OK? Walter (#171) – I saw the attack on Mormons and Catholics but nothing against the FSM, are you feeling OK?

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]]> By: Anonymous http://www.venganza.org/2007/09/15/why-pick-christians/#comment-686714 Anonymous Fri, 28 Nov 2008 03:11:18 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2007/09/15/why-pick-christians.htm#comment-686714 You wrote: "I am Roman Catholic and I don’t think that we are the ones converting others even though we are still Christina." Our problem is with Christianity, not Christina, so never fear, dear friend! You wrote:

“I am Roman Catholic and I don’t think that we are the ones converting others even though we are still Christina.”

Our problem is with Christianity, not Christina, so never fear, dear friend!

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]]> By: Earthbreaker http://www.venganza.org/2007/09/15/why-pick-christians/#comment-405973 Earthbreaker Wed, 23 Apr 2008 11:43:10 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2007/09/15/why-pick-christians.htm#comment-405973 Why pick Christians? You were nearest at the time Why pick Christians?

You were nearest at the time

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]]> By: walter the walrus http://www.venganza.org/2007/09/15/why-pick-christians/#comment-315235 walter the walrus Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:42:39 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2007/09/15/why-pick-christians.htm#comment-315235 1) Mormonism is not related to Christianity. It is a cult. 2) Most Christians, dont want to "push" their beliefs on anyone, they simply what to share the light of what the Savior Jesus Christ has done in them. 3) Roman Catholicism IS more pagan because they do not pursue a true relationship with God and Jesus therefore they are left wanting more, and turn to things of this world to fill voids. 4) You cant be a demon with no soul, demons are only spirits. 5) One day every knee shall bow 1) Mormonism is not related to Christianity. It is a cult. 2) Most Christians, dont want to “push” their beliefs on anyone, they simply what to share the light of what the Savior Jesus Christ has done in them. 3) Roman Catholicism IS more pagan because they do not pursue a true relationship with God and Jesus therefore they are left wanting more, and turn to things of this world to fill voids. 4) You cant be a demon with no soul, demons are only spirits. 5) One day every knee shall bow

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]]> By: neal http://www.venganza.org/2007/09/15/why-pick-christians/#comment-246988 neal Thu, 29 Nov 2007 08:05:52 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2007/09/15/why-pick-christians.htm#comment-246988 Why pick Christians? How about because they're in everyone's face. Ever hear of a "Jewish" evangelist. Of course not. Then there is the method of Christians. The "you just know what I'm saying is the truth, and you're only resisting "cause your evil", and if you continue to not believe, you'll be sent to someplace where you'll be tortured without end by the Chirst who loves you and is God and who died because his father who is also God demanded someone be butchered because your ancestor 300 generations removed from you committed some offense which caused this loving god to start murdering everything he created in the universe. BTW, he's gonna keep right on killing every thing that lives, even though he loves and has forgiven us, but if you play your cards right and believe in Jesus, he'll let you party with him, jesus and the holy ghost after he murders you." Then there is the insistence that this sick screed be inculcated in children before their critical faculties can form. And not just their kids. Why do you think they want prayer and religion in public schools? It's so everyone's kids, including the kids of parents of differing world views, get the trreatment, at taxpayer expense, no less. And then these pricks havd the nerve to come on sites like this, and spread their gospel of fear and repression. No wonder thinking, intelligent pepole pick on them. It's because they pick on us. Why pick Christians? How about because they’re in everyone’s face. Ever hear of a “Jewish” evangelist. Of course not.

Then there is the method of Christians. The “you just know what I’m saying is the truth, and you’re only resisting “cause your evil”, and if you continue to not believe, you’ll be sent to someplace where you’ll be tortured without end by the Chirst who loves you and is God and who died because his father who is also God demanded someone be butchered because your ancestor 300 generations removed from you committed some offense which caused this loving god to start murdering everything he created in the universe. BTW, he’s gonna keep right on killing every thing that lives, even though he loves and has forgiven us, but if you play your cards right and believe in Jesus, he’ll let you party with him, jesus and the holy ghost after he murders you.”

Then there is the insistence that this sick screed be inculcated in children before their critical faculties can form. And not just their kids. Why do you think they want prayer and religion in public schools? It’s so everyone’s kids, including the kids of parents of differing world views, get the trreatment, at taxpayer expense, no less.

And then these pricks havd the nerve to come on sites like this, and spread their gospel of fear and repression. No wonder thinking, intelligent pepole pick on them. It’s because they pick on us.

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]]> By: Alistair http://www.venganza.org/2007/09/15/why-pick-christians/#comment-246939 Alistair Thu, 29 Nov 2007 06:29:16 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2007/09/15/why-pick-christians.htm#comment-246939 You got there just ahead of me Vivian. I'd also like to point out that many in the West are far more familliar with the basic precepts of Chirstianity then they are with other religions, so it makes sence to use them in examples and analogies. You got there just ahead of me Vivian. I’d also like to point out that many in the West are far more familliar with the basic precepts of Chirstianity then they are with other religions, so it makes sence to use them in examples and analogies.

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]]> By: vivian http://www.venganza.org/2007/09/15/why-pick-christians/#comment-246915 vivian Thu, 29 Nov 2007 05:40:26 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2007/09/15/why-pick-christians.htm#comment-246915 Dear Marcin S, Please don't lump Jews in with people who try to convert others to their religious beliefs--you've got it all wrong. Jews never proselytize: it's explicitly contrary to their religion. In fact, rabbis are instructed to reject potential converts three times before proceeding with the conversion process. And conversion is NOT initiated by rabbis or by other Jews. As for your erroneous conclusion that more Jewish organizations on campus than Christian organizations means that more Jewish organizations equals Jews trying to convert others--why do you jump to that conclusion? Why not consider other explanations--for example, that there are divisions within Judaism (Orthodox, Conservative, Reform, Reconstructionist) and that each division might have its own organization? Believe me, Jews actively discourage converts--you will never see Jews trying to force their beliefs off on non-Jews. So please, get the facts before you make inaccurate pronouncements. Dear Marcin S,
Please don’t lump Jews in with people who try to convert others to their religious beliefs–you’ve got it all wrong. Jews never proselytize: it’s explicitly contrary to their religion. In fact, rabbis are instructed to reject potential converts three times before proceeding with the conversion process. And conversion is NOT initiated by rabbis or by other Jews. As for your erroneous conclusion that more Jewish organizations on campus than Christian organizations means that more Jewish organizations equals Jews trying to convert others–why do you jump to that conclusion? Why not consider other explanations–for example, that there are divisions within Judaism (Orthodox, Conservative, Reform, Reconstructionist) and that each division might have its own organization? Believe me, Jews actively discourage converts–you will never see Jews trying to force their beliefs off on non-Jews. So please, get the facts before you make inaccurate pronouncements.

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]]> By: TimD http://www.venganza.org/2007/09/15/why-pick-christians/#comment-239827 TimD Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:47:40 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2007/09/15/why-pick-christians.htm#comment-239827 Someone may have already said this, but someone who has faith could never accept the existence of any condition that proves their god doesn't exist. Atheists can readily accept that a real proof of god can exist, and are eagerly waiting for one, therefore are not a kind of faith. Someone may have already said this, but someone who has faith could never accept the existence of any condition that proves their god doesn’t exist. Atheists can readily accept that a real proof of god can exist, and are eagerly waiting for one, therefore are not a kind of faith.

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]]> By: Commodore Angryy http://www.venganza.org/2007/09/15/why-pick-christians/#comment-224547 Commodore Angryy Sat, 03 Nov 2007 12:43:10 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2007/09/15/why-pick-christians.htm#comment-224547 G, i may or may not be offended by what you write, as i or a signifacant other can't really tell. Agnosticism may be considered to be fence sitting, or it may not. who is to say they do not stand, or even lay down on the fence? There is no proof either way as to the position of agnostics on the fence, as no evidence has been given. I am, or am possibly not sceptical towards neutrality. I hope i have been very confusing, yet clear at the same time. G, i may or may not be offended by what you write, as i or a signifacant other can’t really tell. Agnosticism may be considered to be fence sitting, or it may not. who is to say they do not stand, or even lay down on the fence? There is no proof either way as to the position of agnostics on the fence, as no evidence has been given. I am, or am possibly not sceptical towards neutrality.

I hope i have been very confusing, yet clear at the same time.

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]]> By: Wench Nikkiee http://www.venganza.org/2007/09/15/why-pick-christians/#comment-224519 Wench Nikkiee Sat, 03 Nov 2007 11:49:08 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2007/09/15/why-pick-christians.htm#comment-224519 Hehehehehehehe... RAmen G May you eventually lean towards the warmth of His Noodly Appendages.....otherwise you may float off into space... . Hehehehehehehe…
RAmen G
May you eventually lean towards the warmth of His Noodly Appendages…..otherwise you may float off into space…
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]]> By: G http://www.venganza.org/2007/09/15/why-pick-christians/#comment-224488 G Sat, 03 Nov 2007 10:52:02 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2007/09/15/why-pick-christians.htm#comment-224488 Psh! I'm a Fundamental Agnostic and I'm potentially tired of all you Agnostic bashers merely dismissing Agnosticism as "fence sitting". "Agnostics claim either that it is not possible to have absolute or certain knowledge of the existence or nonexistence of God or gods; or, alternatively, that while individual certainty may be possible, they personally have no knowledge. Agnosticism in both cases involves some form of skepticism." As you can probably see, my Agnostic Dogma is very well worded and convincing-sounding. It comes more or less directly from the Agnostic Gospel of Wikipedia, which every good Agnostic may or may not know is either absolute truth or complete fabrication. So there. Psh! I’m a Fundamental Agnostic and I’m potentially tired of all you Agnostic bashers merely dismissing Agnosticism as “fence sitting”.

“Agnostics claim either that it is not possible to have absolute or certain knowledge of the existence or nonexistence of God or gods; or, alternatively, that while individual certainty may be possible, they personally have no knowledge. Agnosticism in both cases involves some form of skepticism.”

As you can probably see, my Agnostic Dogma is very well worded and convincing-sounding. It comes more or less directly from the Agnostic Gospel of Wikipedia, which every good Agnostic may or may not know is either absolute truth or complete fabrication.

So there.

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]]> By: Peter Popoff http://www.venganza.org/2007/09/15/why-pick-christians/#comment-205589 Peter Popoff Sat, 13 Oct 2007 01:48:33 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2007/09/15/why-pick-christians.htm#comment-205589 Formless One` Oct 12th, 2007 at 6:31 pm the debate of whether atheism is a religion or not is just academic, my main point is that atheist who try to feircly push the idea of atheism are just as bad as the religions trying to convert people. Many people use their belief that atheism is not a religion as a kind of excuse. Many atheists are hypocrites in this manner. . They do it, because they are fundy assholes. Punks at best. Formless One` Oct 12th, 2007 at 6:31 pm

the debate of whether atheism is a religion or not is just academic, my main point is that atheist who try to feircly push the idea of atheism are just as bad as the religions trying to convert people. Many people use their belief that atheism is not a religion as a kind of excuse. Many atheists are hypocrites in this manner.
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They do it, because they are fundy assholes.
Punks at best.

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]]> By: Formless One` http://www.venganza.org/2007/09/15/why-pick-christians/#comment-205575 Formless One` Sat, 13 Oct 2007 01:31:51 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2007/09/15/why-pick-christians.htm#comment-205575 the debate of whether atheism is a religion or not is just academic, my main point is that atheist who try to feircly push the idea of atheism are just as bad as the religions trying to convert people. Many people use their belief that atheism is not a religion as a kind of excuse. Many atheists are hypocrites in this manner. the debate of whether atheism is a religion or not is just academic, my main point is that atheist who try to feircly push the idea of atheism are just as bad as the religions trying to convert people. Many people use their belief that atheism is not a religion as a kind of excuse. Many atheists are hypocrites in this manner.

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]]> By: John Coman http://www.venganza.org/2007/09/15/why-pick-christians/#comment-205569 John Coman Sat, 13 Oct 2007 01:23:38 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2007/09/15/why-pick-christians.htm#comment-205569 Ah yes, the fundamentals do so like to bicker over the precise meaning of the word "disbelief" don't they? Such a tired and irrelevent argument in trying to level the playing field. A strawman argument I believe it's called. Much in the same vein as when they so often state that educated scientists "believe" in evolution. With such willfully ignorant petty and translucent acrobatical semantic attempts to reduce non-believers and believers to be seen as competitors on same level. Their argument therefore, does much injustice to their own stance. I say good show to them for exposing their rather dishonest attempts at coercing the sheep flocks to follow their rubbish whilst paying for the priviledge of doing so. Ah yes, the fundamentals do so like to bicker over the precise meaning of the word “disbelief” don’t they? Such a tired and irrelevent argument in trying to level the playing field. A strawman argument I believe it’s called. Much in the same vein as when they so often state that educated scientists “believe” in evolution. With such willfully ignorant petty and translucent acrobatical semantic attempts to reduce non-believers and believers to be seen as competitors on same level.
Their argument therefore, does much injustice to their own stance.
I say good show to them for exposing their rather dishonest attempts at coercing the sheep flocks to follow their rubbish whilst paying for the priviledge of doing so.

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]]> By: Peter Popoff http://www.venganza.org/2007/09/15/why-pick-christians/#comment-205564 Peter Popoff Sat, 13 Oct 2007 01:11:37 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2007/09/15/why-pick-christians.htm#comment-205564 "Fred Anon Oct 12th, 2007 at 5:51 pm Which dictionary?" . Merriam Webster Online, try it. “Fred Anon Oct 12th, 2007 at 5:51 pm

Which dictionary?”
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Merriam Webster Online, try it.

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]]> By: Formless One` http://www.venganza.org/2007/09/15/why-pick-christians/#comment-205562 Formless One` Sat, 13 Oct 2007 00:52:38 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2007/09/15/why-pick-christians.htm#comment-205562 i agree with you but there is a difference between "there is no god" (atheism) and "there is no proof for god therefore there isn't one" (this is more along the lines of agnostism). The two are incredibly similar (i doubt anyone can clearly and distinctly seperate the two), but there is a difference. Just as god is hard to prove so is no god. Flat out saying there is no god because there is no proof is having faith in it. Any belief in something that is not fact involves faith. Because of the similarities i believe a lot of people who call themselves atheists, have belief systems much closer to agnosticism. and like i said there is only a cosmetic difference between having faith in a god and having faith in a god. i agree with you but there is a difference between “there is no god” (atheism) and “there is no proof for god therefore there isn’t one” (this is more along the lines of agnostism). The two are incredibly similar (i doubt anyone can clearly and distinctly seperate the two), but there is a difference. Just as god is hard to prove so is no god. Flat out saying there is no god because there is no proof is having faith in it. Any belief in something that is not fact involves faith. Because of the similarities i believe a lot of people who call themselves atheists, have belief systems much closer to agnosticism. and like i said there is only a cosmetic difference between having faith in a god and having faith in a god.

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]]> By: Fred Anon http://www.venganza.org/2007/09/15/why-pick-christians/#comment-205561 Fred Anon Sat, 13 Oct 2007 00:51:39 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2007/09/15/why-pick-christians.htm#comment-205561 Which dictionary? Which dictionary?

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]]> By: Peter Popoff http://www.venganza.org/2007/09/15/why-pick-christians/#comment-205554 Peter Popoff Sat, 13 Oct 2007 00:28:39 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2007/09/15/why-pick-christians.htm#comment-205554 atheist One entry found. atheist Main Entry: athe·ist Listen to the pronunciation of atheist Pronunciation: \ˈā-thē-ist\ Function: noun Date: 1551 : one who believes that there is no deity Simple enough. atheist
One entry found.

atheist

Main Entry:
athe·ist Listen to the pronunciation of atheist
Pronunciation:
\ˈā-thē-ist\
Function:
noun
Date:
1551

: one who believes that there is no deity

Simple enough.

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]]> By: ☠DutchPastaGuy☠ http://www.venganza.org/2007/09/15/why-pick-christians/#comment-205548 ☠DutchPastaGuy☠ Sat, 13 Oct 2007 00:22:14 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2007/09/15/why-pick-christians.htm#comment-205548 @Formless One The 'atheist faith' is something some people like to go over time and time again. So let's go over the technicality once more. . No, most atheists formally won't say 'There is no god', but rather 'I see zero reason to assume there to be any god'. The two are close but not the same. Proving something isn't there is exceedingly hard. How would we know the Christian god or the Egyptian ones are not lurking behind some planet we can't even detect yet? But we don't assume the Egyptian ones to be there, do we? In the same manner it becomes 'God doesn't exist' in normal, everyday language. If you stick to the formal position 'I see no reason and feel it's exceedingly unlikely' then I don't see how that requires any faith. I share your position btw that if some god were to present himself convincingly enough I would assume him/her/it to be real. But not holding my breath for it. . Someone once said: atheism is no more a faith than bald is a hair color. @Formless One
The ‘atheist faith’ is something some people like to go over time and time again. So let’s go over the technicality once more.
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No, most atheists formally won’t say ‘There is no god’, but rather ‘I see zero reason to assume there to be any god’. The two are close but not the same. Proving something isn’t there is exceedingly hard. How would we know the Christian god or the Egyptian ones are not lurking behind some planet we can’t even detect yet? But we don’t assume the Egyptian ones to be there, do we? In the same manner it becomes ‘God doesn’t exist’ in normal, everyday language. If you stick to the formal position ‘I see no reason and feel it’s exceedingly unlikely’ then I don’t see how that requires any faith. I share your position btw that if some god were to present himself convincingly enough I would assume him/her/it to be real. But not holding my breath for it.
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Someone once said: atheism is no more a faith than bald is a hair color.

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