I find this sad. And this is coming from a 14 year old girl that has been raised as a Christian. This is stupid. If you wanted to attract attention then do something else. But make up a religion and trying to find information to back it up is just sad. I wonder how you even thought about such thing. Was you bored in your room or something? I wonder how your parents think about this. And honestly why would you want kids or young adults to learn about such thing? Do you want to brain wash them or something with your made up theory? Seriously, just drop the whole thing & find something else to do.
Good day, anonymous
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“All faiths have a common goal. Structure, conformity and a purpose.”
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They have a common goal all right, but it’s more to do with power, control and money.
And I do appreciate the life I have, especially since it got so much better since I dropped those fairy tale beliefs and started thinking for myself. You should try it.
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Mc, that guy putting a gun at your head might start conforming to a different faith. Result: he’ll still put a gun to your head, just for different reasons!
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Poor misguided 14 girl. I am also a 14 year old girl, but even I have the intelligence to recognise satire when I see it. I expect this post was made by an American (judging from the tone of the grammatical errors: “was you bored”?) so I guess perhaps you don’t learn about such things at school over there.
I saw this website and immediately sent it to several friends (after playing the FSM Conversion game several times, obviously) and see ABSOLUTELY nothing wrong with it.
+ to that guy who was listening to Industrial Disease? I love that song! It’s on my iPod!
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“But make up a religion and trying to find information to back it up is just sad.”
Isn’t that what christians have been doing for a few thousand years now?
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Vamos, and failing at that second task too :) Unlike us Pastafarians, we have that wonderfull graph.
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I find you sad.
And this is coming from a 14 year old girl that thinks the FSM rocks.
I pity you and the fact that you cannot infact take a joke.
Nobody needs to use any form of brainwashing, we join Pastafarianism because it’s funny and because we’re know how to have fun and laugh. Probably a word of which you are not familiar with.
Anywho, RAMEN x
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RAmen Pastafarian x,
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The Bible tries to suppress nearly all our natural instincts, but doesn’t ban humour.
It i therefore ironic that based on the behaviour of his so called followers about the only natural urge the manage to suppress is their sense of humour.
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I only know the Bible, do any holy scriptures order people to be grumpy sods and not have a laugh?
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Why are there no Christian stand-up comedians?
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@DutchPastaGuy: Yes, I do agree with you. Some elements in the world has corrupted the faith and is using for there own advancement. Fortunately this is not the case everywhere. If people are hungry do we not feed them? If a child cries do we not comfort the child? If a people are bleeding do we not help them? Take the case of the Korean Christian in Afghanistan. Helping people, strangers without expecting anything in return and knowing the dangers involved but still pushing forward. This all to help there fellow man. If everybody in the world was as unselfish and dedicated as this, imagine the world we would be living in. You call it a fairy tale. I call it a pathway and the reward: a live worth living.
@Red Dutchpasta Wench: True. But after all the dust has settled and you find yourself alive. Bread taste like milk and the water is sweeter then ever. I call it an appreciation of live. Have you ever tasted bread and water like this?
You can go on defending and attacking faiths till the end of days. It will never stop. I will not force you to listen to me nor will I expect you to understand. I do not want your pity and maybe ignorance is bliss. But this is my decision. I read through all these posts. I find most of them to be of young impressionable minds. Easily tainted. Young minds that still have to discover the joys of live. In these posts I only find one common theme. An easy way out and some will believe in this. Some here calls this funny and even a joke. This saddens me.
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Mc, I detest milk.
And personally I find the Koreans in Afghanistan idiots. It is not very smart to go to a warzone, with extremist moslems killing not-so extreme ones and start distributing leaflets and bibles!! If they had gone there as doctors, or something usefull I might have respected them, but now I’m afraid I feel they brought it upon themselves.
It saddens me that you really seem to think believing a fairy-tale is a good thing. Maybe you will wake up one day.
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@Mc
“If people are hungry do we not feed them? If a child cries do we not comfort the child? If a people are bleeding do we not help them?”
Yes we do indeed. And not just you and your fellow believers. We do that too. And me and many others here being atheists, that immediately stamps out the myth that it is faith that drives morality, selflessness, helpfulness, etc.
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It would be so useful if religious people had just a broad grasp of history. Mankind has had social structures with people taking care of each other for ages. Religion has been around only for a few millenia. I find it baffling that believers then still manage to claim that being good to each other is tied to faith.
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@Mc Sep 3rd, 2007 at 11:18 pm
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Your posts reveal a probably well-intentioned person not having a very clear sight on what’s happening in this world, what happened before, and what are (or could be) the links between both. The cure: knowledge of history (like DPG pointed out already). Furthermore, you need the courage to take a look at the way you’re believing things too, and step away from the cosy we-are-right-and-the-ones-to-be-saved-yippie! mentality of the “People of One Book”. My grandfather, who’s 89 years old and suffering from several ailments, comes from a typical ultracatholic background, and has already chucked overboard many of those comfortable thoughts, seeing what’s happening in the world, and what might follow for his children and grandchildren. It’s tough for the old guy to transform his solid decades old xian views into a more realistic idea of the world around him. Nobody tells him to do that. He could lock himself up in the ideas he received as a kid: a lot of older people do, telling us stories about the good times. He doesn’t: he tries to tell people to remember where we came from, that our XXIst Century comfort just doesn’t come out of the blue, he watches the news, reads his paper, and… thinks. It’s all he’s got to do the last years, but HE DOES IT!
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Oh, when I say “comfortable thoughts”, I do that because the idea of knowing how to behave to earn a nice spot in that highly hypothetical afterlife must surely give a nice warm feeling. Only, it isn’t really realistic, and millions of people have been tortured and killed on behalf of that idea. They weren’t considered a great loss, and sometimes even thought to have earned a nice spot too, that way…
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I wouldn’t be too proud of religion, actually…
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Except CoFSM, of course. But I don’t need to explain that to intelligent people, do I?
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RAmen JB
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Why do christians need an excuse to help people. I mean, whenever morality comes up, it’s never because they wanted to help the person, and if it is, it’s to help them aswell as themselves get into heaven. I tought selfishness was unChristian? Whatever, i mean, the bible must say something about that … right?
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I seem to remember a similar blog entry 2000 years ago on the ridiculous notion of a new religion called ‘Christianity’
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@Mc – your abuse of the language saddens me.
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Missionaries are supposed to understand the risks. Bad things have been happening to missionaries since there were missionaries.
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I find this sad …. that a 14 year old could combine such narrow views with such a limited grasp of grammar.
Clearly she is lacking in the kind of pasta-ral(*) care that can be found within an open-minded FSM community.
Captain Badger
* The modern spelling of ‘pastoral’ (sic) is a corruption of the true original as all right-thinking Pastafarian will know.
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@ JB – RAmen indeed, to echo DPG. And congrats and respect to your grandfather. What an incredible thing to be doing! I’m proud of him!
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@ Mc – People never, ever do things out of the kindness of their hearts. I am not attempting to say that humans are not capable of great kindness – but they are actually self-centered. Christians do what they do because they expect eternal rewards from it. Everyone is motivated selfishly – that’s humanity. It’s not a bad thing, just the reality.
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I think John 8: 1-12 is an excellent story. Jesus encouraged a whole crowd of people to think for themselves, and to consider not being so secure in their self-righteousness. Something I’ve never achieved.
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“Rowdiest Wench Sep 4th, 2007 at 8:59 am
@ Mc – People never, ever do things out of the kindness of their hearts. I am not attempting to say that humans are not capable of great kindness – but they are actually self-centered. Christians do what they do because they expect eternal rewards from it. Everyone is motivated selfishly – that’s humanity. It’s not a bad thing, just the reality.”
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Sorry Rowdy, but I Totally disagree with that!
I have seen many acts of kindness, I have done many acts of kindness!
For no other reason then I was able too!
I don’t call that selfishness, I call that caring for others, no personal gain involved.
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@ PP – I know you are very involved in helping others! I really respect you for that and was not trying to insult anyone. It isn’t that a person gains something tangible – even the satisfaction that they are doing the right thing is motivation.
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“pasta-ral” He He, that’s great:)
@ Rowdiest Wench and Peter Popoff:
I think this is sort of what you guys (and/or girls) are saying…
1: people do nice things
2: people feel good for doing nice things, for a variety of reasons (it might make them look good and/or they just genuinely enjoy helping people)
3: people are nice because of the emotional response they get from being nice, not to actually help the other person
Wikipedia has a descent looking article on altruism (I’m too lazy too read the whole thing), but sources more educated than I have told me some of the information contained in a few of the links is bad.
That being said, helping people out still rocks… now who wants to help me with this cursed lab write up?!?!?!!?
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@Peter Popoff Sep 4th, 2007 at 9:30 am “…I don’t call that selfishness, I call that caring for others, no personal gain involved.”
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Without caring for others -those others being mainly our fellow human beings- those thousands of years of evolving and learning would’nt have been worth much… we HAVE the means to care for the less lucky members of our society, so why NOT use them?
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Because some comfortably seated power-greedy sapheads see it (the not-helping) as an easy way to power, and like to call THAT “survival of the fittest”.
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Those same sapheads also tend to abuse of those willing to help. Plenty of examples, most of them from the xian environment. If not ALL… Money against prayer, anyone?
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@ El P – That’s a pretty good summary! Although I do like to help people and I work hard to be able to do so, it is a form of “pay it forward” for me. I’d like to say I help people only because I want them to be better (which I do) but I get a great deal of satisfaction from knowing that the teenage girls I spend time with are going to be more balanced than I was even at 30 or 35…
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@ one-eyed wonderkin
yes, missionaries should accept the risks. they are the same in every war-torn or extremist country, for missionaries and regular priests alike. take oscar arnulfo romero as an example, mc. you may learn something most missionaries forget.
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Does anyone else see the irony in her response? She has condemned our Prophet for doing precisely the same thing as the Christians:
*”But make up a religion and trying to find information to back it up is just sad” – Acceptance of Jesus as the Christ comes from deliberate misinterpretation of Isaiah (a fallacy in of itself).
*And honestly why would you want kids or young adults to learn about such thing?” – Good question. Why would you seek to indoctrinate generations of people with an obviously absurd dogma? The Christians did so for political purposes.
*”Do you want to brain wash them or something with your made up theory?”- The Christians routinely brainwash the vulnerable with nonsense stories of god. Historically they have also employed the technique of mass murder.
*”Seriously, just drop the whole thing & find something else to do.” I think I could the Pope a secretarial job of some kind.
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I’m back! Though I doubt any of you remember me as I usually only lurked!
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I find this sad. And this is coming from a 14 year old girl that has been raised as a Christian.
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I find this incredibly intelligent, and this is coming from a fifteen year old girl who was raised with a Greek Orthodox father, one set of GO grandparents, and another set of some denomination I forgot.
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This is stupid. If you wanted to attract attention then do something else.
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Either you haven’t read our purpose properly, or you’re being deliberately obtuse. Oh, and, by the way, our religion is perfect for attracting attention to our cause – check out the long list of FSM mentions (including The God Delusion [repeatedly] and South Park).
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But make up a religion and trying to find information to back it up is just sad. I wonder how you even thought about such thing.
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Refer back to my last comment.
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Was you bored in your room or something?
I don’t even want to comment on this. You shame our age group both with this sentence.
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I wonder how your parents think about this. And honestly why would you want kids or young adults to learn about such thing?
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I don’t know Bobby’s parents, so I can’t comment. My own mother and my grandfather think FSM is hilarious and a great idea. Young adults like myself, and like you, are clearly perfectly capable of making up their own minds, or you would not even be here.
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Do you want to brain wash them or something with your made up theory?
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I am not brainwashed. I am a perfectly rational human being; all the more rational, actually, from discovering the FSM. Before then I was never particularly interested in science, politics or religion. Now I study all three at my own leisure, and am a more intelligent person for it. Also, you should seriously consider that you yourself have been brainwashed. If Christianity is genuinely your own choice, and you’ve looked into alternatives, then I guess you’re not brainwashed. But you mentioned early on that you were /raised/ as a Christian… Think about that, hmm?
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Seriously, just drop the whole thing & find something else to do.
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No. The FSM is an indication of the struggle for seperation of state and religion. In any case, I love proclaiming to worship pirates.
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Good day, anonymous
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May you be touched by His Noodly Appendage.
RAmen.
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eek. Now I look silly. *You shame our age group with this sentence.
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greek orthadox? rock on man, all my grandparents are GOand they too see the humor in FSMism.
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Thank you “Ramen Pastafarian,”
RAmen x
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@piave
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I don’t even know why. We’re not even Greek, we’re Ukranian lmfao.
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Hi. This is coming from a forteen year old guy, who is saying that you have no idea what you’re saying or talking about by typing that message. I find it depressing that you have been told such lies as to believe the Gospel is anything other than a well written satire that made a good point time and time again. I’m a christian, with very firm beliefs in my chosen faith. I also have very firm beliefs in what I dislike about others of my faith. I dislike people who take the bible literally, taking the word of man as the word of god. I don’t think anyone here is taking the gospel any more seriously than you.
If you are really fortten, I’d be really embaressed right now. Writing hate mail, just because you have no appreciation or comprehension of well written satire. Just take a look around, ignore everything you’re telling yourself about the gospel, and look and the book and tell me what you think it is now.
Another 14 year old…
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While I am not 14 years old, I was once 14 years old, and can still think back to those days when everything I said was said with fearless certainty, even when I was incorrect. I also remember that by the time I was 14 years old, I had learned to spell my words correctly and put them together according to a set of rules we called “grammar.” I also had developed the arcane skills called “proofreading” and “punctuation.” Ah, those were the days!
If you are 14 years old and wish to fearlessly express your certainty (note that I do not call it an “opinion,” for opinions are not developed until after adolescence), please do so in the solitude of your room, where most 14 year olds spend 97.32% of their time, according to the most recent Harris Poll.
In time, you too may be touched by His Noodly Appendage and see the error of your ways. Repent, for the Second Helping of the Pasta is near.
RAmen.
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Seriously!? Trying to brain wash people!? This is just a clever and humerous way to speak out about how organized religion is taking over and trying to push science aside when there isn’t even any evidence to back it up.
I mean, maybe if you had some PROOF that god created everything and Jesus is his son who died for us and then came back to show he really was God’s son, THEN you could scoff at this and call it rediculous nonsense, but you don’t have any more proof that your God exsists than we do that the FSM exsists, and you don’t hear US calling christianity stupid and saying that you’re trying to brain wash people, so until you get some PROOF, I suggest you shut up and back off.
Oh yeah, and I’m only fifteen!
It’s not the age that matters, it’s the mindset.
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“Do you want to brain wash them or something with your made up theory?”
As far as we know, the bible is simply a theroy which has not been proven. There is no solid proof that events in the bible took place as they have been written about. I’d say that your remarks are hypocritic considering that Christianity isn’t proven…”But make up a religion and trying to find information to back it up is just sad.” There are people who write books, publish articles, and have jobs trying to prove the bible as fact, so making a website isn’t near the magnitude of some Christian’s actions. Also, in regard to the remark about the author’s parents; the author is allowed to write this, and their parents may not nessesarily be Christian and even then, they may have raised him as an individual.
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@ Erin S
Actually, theories (like Evolution, but unlike ID) are proven with solid facts. The flaw with believing these theories is that FSM has changed the measurements and whatnot to make us think the proven theory is correct, when really, FSMism is.
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actually El Peatieablo, a theory is not proven. if it were proven, it would be a theorum.
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… as far as i know
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You’re right, I should have said that they have a junkload of proof, but obviously nothing can be proven absolutely.
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“And this coming from a 14 year old girl raised as a christian”.
If you want us to take your post serious, you are way off here.
“Were you bored in your room when you did this?”
I would like to know where you were and what reasons you had to watch a strange non-christian site about a flying spaghetti monster and took the time to write the author of the site, a complete stranger, an e-mail.
“Brain-wash someone with your made up theory”.
First of all, everyone is brainwashed to a certain degree. It’s called norms and standards. Second of all, every religion does not have any evidence whatsoever and has a high possibility to be made up.
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Thus, I find your post sad and meaningless. And this coming from a 14 year old boy who is bored in his room, wondering how badly your parents misguided you, and proud pastafarian.
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brainwashing……wait doesnt religion do that too
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‘Appy pyrate day, maties! Arrrrr I be vexed at te’ identity o’ this here christ maiden. ‘Oo would act’lly say ‘at, seems a bit myst’rious ta me. Methinks i’s just another o’ dem FSM satirists, yar, ’s too ‘ard to b’lieve an act’al christ’n would write this stuff. Any o’ me maties agree??
May ‘is noodly append’ge touch you all
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You dumb shit atleast we can spell. you call us ignorant atleast we didnt kill thousands opun thousands of people in the name of some fucked up cup
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fucked up christians
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“Do you want to brain wash them or something with your made up theory?”
The irony is killing me.
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Tell me, can I ask what evidence you have that the writers (or possibly just one writer) didn’t also make up their own religion?
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Another 14 yr old “I’m a christian, with very firm beliefs in my chosen faith. I also have very firm beliefs in what I dislike about others of my faith. I dislike people who take the bible literally, taking the word of man as the word of god”.
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I could understand if you disagreed with people who take the Bible literally, but what have they done for you to dislike them?
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I agree that the Bible is the word of (many more than one) man, in which case, whose word are you basing your faith on, and how did you come by it?
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Its funny…i often wonder the same thing about christianity…
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REPLY TO ORIGINAL LETTER:
“But make up a religion and trying to find information to back it up is just sad. I wonder how you even thought about such thing.”
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Have you ever read about intelligent design? Kind of what that is doing.
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“Seriously, just drop the whole thing & find something else to do.”
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Why? It makes people smile every day. Brings people together across with globe with fun, laughter, and pasta.
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I would not tell people to drop Christianity, so why are you telling people to drop pastafarianism? I think the world is large enough to hold people of different colours, faiths, cultures, and interests.
You say you are a Christian. Thats cool Whatever floats your boat. If you get something out of it and your not hurting anyone else then I’m happy for you. I think this Jesus chappy said something about not judging others. I would say that is a very good rule to live by
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RAmen
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@Everyone:
Quite posting about her grammar. You were in 9th grade before. It can be odd.
@Guy above me:
Everything Jesus says is a “good rule”, including the only way to get to the Father is through Him (Jesus)
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