Years ago, I took this photo on my seattle vacation.
I had no idea I would capture more than just a part of the skyline, and I couldn’t even figure out WHAT EXACTLY I photographed.
You’ve opened my eyes - Thank you so much!
-Markus
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An elaborate spoof on Intelligent Design, The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is neither too elaborate nor too spoofy to succeed in nailing the fallacies of ID. It's even wackier than Jonathan Swift's suggestion that the Irish eat their children as a way to keep them from being a burden, and it may offend just as many people, but Henderson, described elsewhere as a 25-year-old "out-of-work physics major," puts satire to the same serious use that Swift did. Oh, yes, it is very funny. -- Scientific American
Shoot, forgot to leave a space between your part and mine…i like the forums better…
Cutlass, frying pan, wet spaghetti noodle… name your weapon, Zankou! No one on this site gets away with a holier-than-thou attitude! Dawn, sharp!!!
Along with figuring out how to spell your name Mr. Environmentalist, try to grab one or two alternatives about what is really causing global warming. It is NOT carbon emissions. It’s that great big freakin star sitting on our door step! Geesh it just pisses me off when every damn person on the planet buys into the media scam and blathers on about mankind causing global warming. We aren’t doing it…just like we didn’t cause the glaciers. Go to Friends of Science…read, do research, read about how Mars is warming up. Oh, is that because we sent a couple of Mars landers there? No, it’s the sun….
course, we aren’t exactly helping….
Black Stash, you gotta chill a little. Go grab some grog and kick back.
@ Beth:
You’re picking a fight with the wrong being, wench…
Swords…Dawn…bring a coffin.
@ black stash:
Yeah, the sun is causing it…coupled with the fact that the amount of carbon in our atmosphere is holding the sun’s heat in…
Nope so sorry, the ocean gives off more than we could ever hope to. The next major contributor down the food chain are the vulcanoes. People are at the bottom of the barrel giving off enough to make no diff at all. The whole global warming thing is a political/economic swindle. We have to take all that money we are uselessly spending on global warming and start doing some serious work to protect and preserve our environment. Gotta go drink grog and eat carbs, a hungry pirate makes a crabby pirate.
@ Black Stash - I’m going to earn some wrath for saying this (wait, I’m also “Oh yeah try it Bastard! woman” so maybe not! Hee hee) but I’ve read an article about how global warming caused by humanity is a scam and the whole thing is based on crap for proof…it’s very convincing. I love the idea of doing something productive to protect the environment - we do *not* own this beautiful planet and we *must* do better!
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Folks I did not just say that I think we should drive SUV’s and not give a damn about carbon emissions…we are killing the planet for real and we should be talking about that much more seriously.
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And I wear my Jolly Roger bikini at every opportunity so I’m doing my wenchly part to reduce global warming! :)))
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@ Zankou - we do love duels around here! We’ve had rather a lot…and are quite experienced!
That is so excellent, I’m all about Jolly Roger bikinis. I am now using biofuel in the pirate mobile and recycling the hell out of everything. The little woman pirate is building a new roof for the solar panels and has set up a some kind of gadget to catch the wind, so we are running 85% off the grid. The kid majored in some kind of biology and is doing wierd experiments in the back yard. She says that if all things go the way she has them planned we will be eating between 70 - 75% of all our very own home grown crops. Hows that for environmentalism?
@ Black Stash - RAmen to you and your wench!!! My hubby has wanted a windmill for ages and ages…but since he lives by the philosophy that “anything worth doing is worth overdoing” the one he wants costs $10,000! Home grown crops are so much better for you! Hubby grew up as the youngest of 9 on a farm with home-grown cows and a one-acre vegetable garden. He became a computer geek so he wouldn’t have to work that hard outside (he likes good climate control!) but we both recognize the importance of self-suffiency.
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I gave one of my jolly roger bikinis to one of my teen-aged riding students. It was too small for me (I did trial and error on ordering!) and I see no reason not to teach her how to be a sexy wench early in life! I actually went from Rowdy Wench to Rowdier Wench (by becoming the “Empress of Thong”) to Rowdiest Wench by having me and my student wash and wax my truck in our bikinis and taking photos…all in the valiant attempt to combat global warming! :))))
Out for now…maybe can check back but not sure…catch you all later!
She is a truly Rowdy Wench, our Rowdiest is… :)))
If you want to know why we are the ones responsible for the majority of the CO2 increase see here;
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=87
As using isotopic analysis of atmospheric CO2 it is possible to calculate the proportions that come from different sources. As well as analysing over time using, for example, tree rings and coral, to extend the analysis into the past.
As to volcanoes, while individual volcanic eruptions can have an effect on the climate, this is more usually one of cooling rather than warming due to the quantities of SO2 produced compared to the amount of CO2. There are exceptions to this such as the Laki, Iceland volcano in 1783-1784, but they are the exceptions rather than the norm. The average annual volcanic release of carbon is about 0.15 Gt/year of carbon, compared to about 7 Gt/year of human related sources, i.e. volcanoes are about a 50th of human sources.
There is plenty of useful information covering such aspects, as well as answers to the claim about of the suns effect, on the site linked to above.
@ IJB - Please do not think that I think that humans aren’t a nuisance and a huge problem! I really do think we are ruining an excellent planet. I just want the truth to be known…not what is politically advantageous to the morons in charge. Thanks for the info!
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@ WB - I do my best to live up to my name! :)))
Wench Beth: Thank you so much! I feel like I must have been either blind or stupid to not notice! How does this stuff escape me?
Ok Black Stash,
Just to get a few things straight- No, I’m not some idiot who buys into media crap. I actually took a course on environmental studies (though I admit it stupid of me to mispell it). Another thing. It’s not media crap. There is truth behind it. Have you ever heard of the Keeling curve? Do you even know who Keeling is? Well, in case you don’t know, Keeling did a study on the fluctuations of CO2 levels in the atmosphere in correlation with global mean temperature. Strangely, they were the same… Now, I know what you’re thinking. Who says that it’s our fault? Possibly it could be that never before in global history (traced back from records such as CO2 in ice samplings) have global temperatures been so high. I think I see why you might think I’m just some sheep following the media - it’s that whole Al Gore thing, and frankly, I’ve seen his film, An Inconvenient Truth, and found it quite terrible and inaccurate. He seems to think that melting glaciers are the main cause of sea level rise. They are, in fact, not. It is that water expands as it heats up. True, ice is less dense than water, but as the molecules of water gain more kinetic energy, they spread further apart as they move faster. In any case though, heating the planet only exacerbates things. Adding CO2 to the planet heats it. Us burning fossil fuels emits CO2 (along with many air pollutants which aren’t very good for us anyway).
Oh, and Black Stash,
If you knew anything about CO2 emissions, you would know that the reason the ocean gives off CO2 is because as it heats up, CO2 becomes less soluble in it, therefore, any dissolved is released into the air, heating the earth more. It’s a positive feedback loop. I’m not trying to be rude or anything, by the way. I just feel rather insulted at your rash judgements. If this topic really compels you and you wish to learn more, take a course or even do a bit more research first.
Wow some really interesting great posts around here today :) Great to see :))))
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To John Phillips…. Hi by the way haven’t seen you around for a while…you should drop in more often :) & Stereotypical Environmentalist.
You guys would be familiar with results of temperature monitoring in the immediate period after 911 when air traffic was grounded? I read the report at the time and also listened to a few discussions that people, more familiar with this area, (I’m pretty ignorant of the concepts myself) were having about it at the time. Vague on the details now, was very interested at the time though.
Oh, I know that aerosols, which are released by planes, I believe, into the air do have a cooling effect. However, they are also air pollutants. Ultimately, if we wanted to stop global warming but didn’t care about our health, we would release massive amouts of aerosols into the air. Another useless method of which I have always been fond is removing the entire Ozone layer, because Ozone is actually a heat trapping gas.