The Cincinnati Beacon notices a relationship between global warming and pirates.
General consciousness about global warming seems to have reached a new critical mass, perhaps thanks to Al Gore’s movie and the growing awareness of green technologies.
But has anyone noticed, while more people become aware of global warming and take steps to combat it, that our culture has become filled with even more pirates? Pirates, in many ways, are experiencing a renaissance in America right now.
Read it here.
@Steriotypical Evironmentalist
“By the way guys, stop insulting Christianity. Although I am not a Christian, I believe that it is unnecessarily rude and that if I were Shawn, I would probably be a bit upset that everyone is attacking my religion. ”
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Sorry, but as someone who cares about preserving the wildlife in this place I abhor his statements like ‘The earth will be fine, God will take care of it as long as you believe in him’. Utterly ignorant, irresponsible, in the long term very damaging rubbish, worthy of speaking out against in whatever tone. Or worthy of stamping out altogether. So bollocks to diplomacy, it’s highly overrated anyway.
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“Also, he probably won’t want to listen to you if all you’re going to do is attack him.”
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No, but if you reasoned with him you wouldn’t get any further. Remember what Jonathan Swift said: You can’t reason someone out of something they weren’t reasoned into.
Hell! I was just going to say “why not!”
SE - There’s nothing wrong with insulting religion, or anything else for that matter, as long as the insult has merit. Some people think that religion is somehow different than all other social constructs and should be immune from criticism, parody, jokes, and various kinds of insults. Not so. Religious claims are just as subject to critical analysis and comment as, say, science. Being “faith-based” (willful ignorance) does not give religion an out. The argument that much of religion is unprovable and has to be taken on faith also doesn’t make religion immune to analysis and criticism of the disprovable, contradictory, and/or unsavory parts.
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I agree that being unnessecarily rude is not good. Just read the hate mail this site gets.
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Per Shawn’s post, I don’t think he was sincere in his questions and really wasn’t looking for and answer, but rather was looking down on us from his somewhat smug position founded on faith-based certainty, obviously oxymoron. He was trying to demonstrate his faith to us.
DutchPastaGuy,
It is quite possible to profess the truth and be diplomatic about it. People are also going to be more willing to listen if you act that way.
@ SE - welcome to the site BTW :)
@alchemist - i thought i was pedantic…
@anyone - hey, those links on “in the clouds” to blr’s posts! alchemist, can you post a link to your stories (librarians and bible writing)?
Mike Meier, I must praise you for speaking the truth. Right on brother! Why should we not look down on religion and all the bull that goes with it? Why should we show respect to people who have ‘faith’? Faith is a blind trust in something that isn’t real. It would be like me saying that I have put up a shrine to the easter bunny…wood nymph…Batman…Santa…the Pink Unicorn…or Bibo Baggins, and you must believe in the power, or else, (place dramatic scary music here) your hair will turn pink then turn into worms. Your clothes will become polyester and your nose hairs will become sentient.
Religion should not be exceptable or condoned. We should discourage it, not give it respect. It is evil and has caused unbelievable suffering and death in the world. It is an idea that is long overdue to be dumped along with all the other beliefs that mankind has had and held against its better judgement for too long. The world is no longer flat, nor the center of the universe and shouldn’t be held hostage by a bunch of maniacs who given the first oppertunity would be trying to burn anyone who does not believe what they do.
I think this site as well as others like it should encourage people to speak freely against the myths, the hypocrisy and the disaster that religion is. ANY KIND OF RELIGION…I can live without Allah, Jesus, Vishnu and even Odin. The only god we should be bellying up to is our Spaghetti man and his beer volcanos and stripper bars. So ahoy maties and R’Amen to all and to all a good night.
I think it is in the best interest of Christians to convert to atheism and forget that god will save them. Christianity, in my belief, is a coppout religion where ‘the children of God’ have nothing to worry about because God wouldnt want us to die out. if their was a god he would have dissappeared in a puff of logic a long time ago. Wake up Realmenlovechrist. you are an introverted weirdo, and need to take responsibility of your actions.
by the way, what car do you drive
Thagor
hey black stash, one problem with your post - spaghetti man? you mean monster.
thagor, i like thor, norse thunder god, but thats ’cause thunder pwns. oh well.
i like norse gods but thats cause they pwn.
the others? not really. fsm is best cause…well…how well does God go with cheese? he doesn’t.fsm does
I try not to look down on religion, although I often do, because for me religion is like cold fusion, n-rays, the crystallization theory of the embrittlement of metals, stuff like that. It’s just plain wrong, now move on. I think that most people sincerely believe that stuff not because they understand it, but that is what they were told and are either unwilling, unable, or afraid to think for themselves. On the other hand, there are plenty of other power-hungry folks that are milking and promoting these things for personal gain. Those people, and their minions, I have difficulty not looking down on. Oh how I do love it so when they come to my door to “save” me. Great sport.
Hahahaha
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DPG, the SHRIMP even has a gizmo called a Wien filter on it! I always wondered how it got its name…
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(Terribly geeky science observation now over)
wench octarine Jun 25th, 2007 at 5:44 pm
“@anyone - hey, those links on “in the clouds” to blr’s posts! alchemist, can you post a link to your stories (librarians and bible writing)?”
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You mean Penne’s story about the clowns and librarians?
I think a few of these might be what you are looking for :)
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Alchemist (et.al) Bible Story
www.venganza.org/2007/04/12/you-atheists-think-you-have-got-it-all-figured-out-huh.htm#comment-97434
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Penne’s “Clowns vs. Librarians” story
www.venganza.org/2006/11/19/science-without-religion-is-lame.htm#comment-19619
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BLR (”Bobby’s Last Reply”….a broken promise) threads September Most of the Initail posts in the September 2006 Archive emails from BLR to Bobby (then published on site as thread topic)
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Archives September 2006
www.venganza.org/2006/09
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“When I called down the fire from Heaven” (scroll down to about half way through for more BLR posts)
www.venganza.org/2006/09/13/when-i-called-down-the-fire-from-heaven.htm
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“That is my cheese sandwich that sold on EBAY”
www.venganza.org/2006/09/12/that-is-my-cheese-sandwich-that-sold-on-ebay.htm
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“I prefer to keep at you Bobby”
www.venganza.org/2006/09/12/i-prefer-to-keep-at-you-bobby.htm
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“Imagine being me Bobby”
www.venganza.org/2006/09/03/imagine-being-me-bobby.htm
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The BLR seemed to calm down for a little while (well dwindled anyway) after all these, but still made sporadic appearances. If I remember correctly “she” turned up around xmas again and really spammed shit out of a few threads! :))
Anyway these links should keep you going for a while :))
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Good to see a noob (:)) take an interest in the thread history of CoFSM.
Have fun :p
RAmen
Thanks, Alchemist.
I miss Penne :(
BLR, not so much (that’s one craaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazy gal!)
AARRGH!
Mike Meier,
You are completely right about people being raised into religion and being afraid and such. That doesn’t mean that you need to look down on these people though. I, personally, pity them. For example, I can’t help but feel sorry for Shawn, who feels that if he “believes” and is wrong, there is no harm, but that if he doesn’t “believe” and is wrong, he will go straight to Hell and rot and burn there for all eternity. I guess people like that feel, “Better safe than sorry”. It’s just sad that they pay no head to how unsafe it is to live with the concept that nothing can ever go wrong. It’s a lot like why we don’t give 10-year olds vadka and put them behind the wheel of automobiles. One could argue that we should have faith that the the sloshed pre-teen will return from the drive, unscathed, because God will be there. However, we don’t do this because we know that it is unsafe. I don’t see how that logic can’t be applied to global warming. I mean, we’ve already tackled Ozone thinning by phasing out CFCs. Why can’t we save the planet again?
DutchPastaGuy Jun 25th, 2007 at 3:47 pm
“No, but if you reasoned with him you wouldn’t get any further. Remember what Jonathan Swift said: You can’t reason someone out of something they weren’t reasoned into.”
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Like pb on the BBC blog, who asks for, and pretends to be looking at, evidence for evolution, but never bothers to even look at the plethora of references presented to him, all the while producing the same tired old straw man arguments against it!
I’m sure his only aim is of confusing the issue in the minds of the largely unscientifically informed public as well to try and prevent any of the more inquisitive flock from straying! His mind is already made up rock solid and his questioning is merely a farce in an effort to sway (keep) readers to his religions world view!
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Gurrrhh…!!
@ Nikkiee, yes and all the while pretending to be unfairly and unkindly treated, claiming you are making untrue statements…. While he is twisting everything his way, twisting the statements you make, claiming to have seen quotes that don’t exist, aaarrrgh. Now that guy is truly unbelieveble!
Hiya Jingles
Jingles Jun 25th, 2007 at 9:49 pm
“I miss Penne :(”
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Me too Jingles. I think she is really talented too :)
Hope she is well wherever she is :)
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Do you watch State of Origin Jingles?
thanks nikkee, i think i might be a while reading all those.
and blr’s posts awe vewwy vewwy … stwange. (elmer fudd)
first i heard was “imagine being me bobby”
and it was… weird.
thanks, and RAmen