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An elaborate spoof on Intelligent Design, The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is neither too elaborate nor too spoofy to succeed in nailing the fallacies of ID. It's even wackier than Jonathan Swift's suggestion that the Irish eat their children as a way to keep them from being a burden, and it may offend just as many people, but Henderson, described elsewhere as a 25-year-old "out-of-work physics major," puts satire to the same serious use that Swift did. Oh, yes, it is very funny. -- Scientific American
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“Join us or our political momentum” will crush you…kinda sounds like intimidation to me. Of course, the ‘will crush you’ was an interpretive admission of my own.
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Po-tay-toe, Po-tah-toe
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BCA Vote NAP
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Why do we need TWO FSM parties? Unless they’re the kind of party with grog. Because there’s never enough of those…
Anyway…
First party to offer me grog and a high-ranking position gets my vote.
Bribe me!
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@ihatemyspace
National Security adviser good enough for you? Yours if you want it.
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And now for something completely different, something exclusively for UK Pastafarians.
Many here will want to sign an online petition for removing the bishops from the House of Lords (only UK residents and expats can sign):
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Episcopal/
And for those who have arrived here only recently I’ll repeat some other petitions:
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/faithschools/
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/NoCreSciEd/
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/endfaithschoo...
Unlike the book pledge, these won’t cost you anything. And signing is quick.
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(previous post disappeared, sorry if you get this twice)
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Hello UK Pastafarians,
Many here will want to sign an online petition for removing the bishops from the House of Lords (only UK residents and expats can sign):
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petitions.pm.gov.uk/Episcopal/
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And for those who have arrived here only recently I’ll repeat some other UK petitions:
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petitions.pm.gov.uk/faithschools/
petitions.pm.gov.uk/NoCreSciEd/
petitions.pm.gov.uk/endfaithschoo…
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Professor B♥♥ty,
Thanks for giving me so much support.
I hope to do the same for you sometime!
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DutchPastaGuy,
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The bishops are already out. We’re going for an elected and appointed chamber – ratio to be determined. No space for the bishops no more!
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Errm
How About This Is ThatOK.Like or Dislike:
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Individual recent comments have disappeared off the left off the screen.
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Is that the British left?
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@۞
Yes, BUT the churches have been lobbying to retain a number of their seats and Jack Straw (who is overseeing the process of overhauling the chamber) is sympathetic to their suggestions. A real ’sneak back in through the back door’ plan, and they may well succeed with it. So it’s very good to make a clearly audible counter noise. The BHA put up this alert only very recently, after learning about the new bad developments.
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۞ May 28th, 2007 at 3:04 pm
“Errm How About This Is That OK.”
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Show off! (:))
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Please excuse my language folks.
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Fucking Cunts.
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I’m signing all those petitions – that I haven’t signed already.
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@ DutchPastaGuy
The sermon is next week
And I’m sorry to report that my parents said, and I quote “While you are living in our house you will be religious”
But I barganed and now the deal is that if I give the sermon next week I no longer have to attend church after that
I don’t know if they’ll keep their end of the bargon tho
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I don’t care about the rest of these, just happy the forum is back.
When is the Chat function coming back?
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@Zankou May 28th, 2007 at 6:20 pm
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Well, well, this
dearZankou “Self-Proclaimed Grammar Nazi” spamming thing again, polite and considerate as always. Go spam the forum, kiddie!.
RAmen.
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Hey, my local Methodist church has a sign up outside saying….
“May we pray for you? – Text or phone this number…..”
Why am I tempted to spam the fuck out of it???
Any good prayer requests, folks? ;)
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Oh, and my friends, Sherlock, Charles Dodgson, Alice Liddell and Jean-Benoit Aubery would like to sign too, Dan!!
More to come later I’m sure, but we have to go out.
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Just TAiing
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Wonder if this works? I fuckingjolly well hope so!
Now let’s see!
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Some did!
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OK – last play otherwise I’ll get accused of spamming:
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Well – let’s see
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@Booty
“Hey, my local Methodist church has a sign up outside saying….
“May we pray for you? – Text or phone this number…..”
Why am I tempted to spam the fuck out of it???
Any good prayer requests, folks? ;)”
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My dear professor, you are once again endangering your academic title by inviting prayer requests. For a good demonstration on how prayer DOESN’T do any good, see
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http://www.rationalistinternational.net/article/2006/20060415/en_3.html
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DPG – I *know* I want to spam them with stupid requests, such as “please pray for my goldfish, as he has a cold”
And for anyone spreading rumours about my academic qualifications please feel free to come round and examine my “credentials” – Everyone is always very satisfied once they have checked them thoroughly in person ;P
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@Booty
I don’t want to upset Sherlock, I’ll take your word on them for now.
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While you’re spamming them, why not ask them to pray that the whole world will come to feel the warm embrace of His Noodly appendages and enjoy beer and hot, arousing angels after death?
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Good plan DPG!
Who gets free text messages then? I have pay as you go :( ;)
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@Booty
Saw your name turn up on the UK petitions against bishops in the House of Lords, agaisnt faith schools etc. Thanks. You too ۞.
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:D
I have never signed so many petitions in all my life!
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@Booty
Your efforts are greatly appreciated. If you make Sherlock sign them too then you’ll get a promotion from professor to university chancellor.
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Wow DPG, this link is interesting! I have to admit, I always thought if someone knows he is ‘prayed for’, it will increase the healing, like patients who have more hope recovering (or loving people in their background who support them) usually do so: placebo effect. I mean you can mobilize your bodies immune system with positive thinking and will power (as much as you can get physical sick from stress and depression). So I really thought this would help, too. I wonder why it is even the opposite… Wow, I have to keep this link :)
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“Lilith♥ May 29th, 2007 at 9:42 am
Wow DPG, this link is interesting! I have to admit, I always thought if someone knows he is ‘prayed for’, it will increase the healing, like patients who have more hope recovering (or loving people in their background who support them) usually do so: placebo effect. I mean you can mobilize your bodies immune system with positive thinking and will power (as much as you can get physical sick from stress and depression). So I really thought this would help, too. I wonder why it is even the opposite… Wow, I have to keep this link :)”
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No Lilith, your thoughts are correct.
When you give someone hope, they have hope, and a reason, simple really.
Be it by praying or whatever means. DPGs study is just that. A study,
It is no more concrete then any of the studies that have “Proved” That prayer helps.
Sometimes you just have to use comman sense, this is a good example of that!
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I have to get one of those T-Shirts: I do gods work – cause he doesn’t care to do it (or something like that)
Can you get shot in Florida while wearing it??
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Studies can be used to prove anything anyone wants them to. No offense DPG! It’s like statistics – anything can be “proven” with statistics if you just work at it.
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I am horrified by the ignorant remarks regarding scientific work here!
I have myself been doing a lot of research into the Thong Dynasty, and the Pan Ti line, and it is all absolutely correct.
Of course, if His Noodliness wanted to change the evidence he could, but in the case of the Thongs and Pan Ti’s He knew a good thing when He saw it and didn’t interfere unless asked really nicely.
Now you lot better say sorry, or I shall come and hit you with my diploma of higher education- or possibly a frying pan!
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@ Booty – I sincerely did not mean to disparage your fine work! Your work is of course totally different than anything I was talking about – and a good deal more important! :)))
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Why are there no “recent comments” here anymore???
Sorry Bobby but that really is an an important part of this site!
It’s somewhat of a bitch to go back to to homepage, and then have to look through the posts to see whats new!
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Bring back the the recent comments area please.
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I second that motion Peter!!! It’s very much more difficult to do it this way. I hope that comes back…
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@Lilith, PP
I downloaded the article from the journal where the results were published. The differences were not that big, something like 52 vs 58% or so. They didn’t present an extensive statistical analysis, so I’m not sure if a 6% difference is significant with the number of patients in their study. I suspect that the outcome should be read as ‘no significant effect in either direction’. I’d find a positive effect beyond a placebo hard to believe and like PP I find a negative effect just as hard to believe.
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It’s still a nice result, because while it probably doesn’t represent any significant adverse effect, at least it blows away the notion that prayer has any significant positive effect, let alone one that exceeds placebo. And it’s an extensive study, reported in a decent quality journal, unlike the rubbish claims reported by faith healers etc.
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DPG: the only thing which can help you besides medicine is your own body and mind working, no one else. But they wouldn’t listen anyway. The Xtians will say that god didn’t answer those prayers, cause the people were participating in a godless study! or they just weren’t real Xtians. excuses for everything ;)
and yes: WHERE IS THE RECENT COMMENT AREA? With more than 10 threads it’s getting a bit hard to take track otherwise :(
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It’s finally working for me, which is a miracle too.
I was two minutes from unleashing my wrath on the internet, which would be inconvenient for the rest of the world ;)
RAmen
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@thesorgo
Do your parents think your soul will be saved by this process?
Is God going to say:
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@Alchemist.
I’m not sure why a tool-tip with Monkey Jism in it is funny. But it is.
*puts on crappy Hollywood Chinese accent*
I see you have past this test.
Remember to use your powers wisely and to the maximum annoyance of you Aristotle.
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RAmen.
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Thanks Charles! Thanks Alice! Thanks Jean-Benoit! Where ever you may be.
Goodness Booty you do have some interesting friends!
Letter To Be Sent to the Church of Google (http://www.thechurchofgoogle.org/)
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Folks, I’m out tomorrow night so I propose that in around 48 hours I shall send the letter from disciples@flying-spaghetti-monster.org and await a response…
RAmen and may his noodliness have mercy on their souls. Which of course he will because he isn’t all vindictive and nasty like those other nasty supreme-beings who wouldn’t know humility if it bit them on their immortal arses.
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I missed this Dan, do add Peter Popoff to the cause. :)
And send one to Bobby, asking for the “recent comments” to reappear too!
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Thanks Peter! 48 hours people! – to get involved and protect internet religion from ridicule.
All the names below have been independently verified.
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Letter To Be Sent to the Church of Google (http://www.thechurchofgoogle.org/)
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Good point Peter where is ‘recent comments’.
I’m going over to 4-hour workweek post and starting another petition.
Otherwise we’ll get all mixed up!
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http://www.venganza.org/2007/05/22/the-4-hour-workweek.htm
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OK, petition is started:
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http://www.venganza.org/2007/05/22/the-4-hour-workweek.htm#comment-12763
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Ask to sign over there for that one, over here for this one. Simple.
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I seem to have hijacked the site in more ways than one recently.
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Ho Hum. Apologies. But all in good causes eh?
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@ Rub El Hizb
My parents have said that spirituallity is important and that even atheists believe in some kind of spirit. But I never get to truly have a theological discussion with them because it always ends with mi padre screaming about some unrelated topic. Relegious Opression, I’m thinking
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I’ve met very few atheists who believe some alternate non-God spirituality.
Most atheists don’t believe in the supernatural. Most can’t tell the difference between one lot of super natural nonsense (druidism) and another lot of supernatural nonsense (Christianity).
In fact athesits might find this site funny because the idea that the world was created by a flying spaghetti monster is not more unlikely than Jesus was the son of God.
Because they think all spiritually is equal hogwash.
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But you’d have to ask them ;)
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Tell your parents you believe in the divinity of the flying spaghetti monster and see what they say. Oh and video it for us – pleeease!
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RAmen.
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If someone would want to believe in some spirit, there are so many religions to chose from, they don’t need to be atheists for that. All atheists I know, don’t believe in the supernatural, it wouldn’t make sense otherwise. If they do, they are more agnostics, than atheists.
But I think some people just need to believe in something and can’t imagine that some doesn’t.
(I was once told that there are no people who don’t believe in any faith… I think this person was wrong)
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Isn’t everyone really just agnostic?
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