You Atheists think you have got it all figured out huh? So you THINK you know that there is no God so you make up this ridiculous fake religion. The Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster? COME ON!! As if making fun of Christians for believing in God wasn’t bad enough you have to mock us by making up The Flying Spaghetti monster? Yeah, I know that an atheist made this crap up, because no one is stupid enough to actually believe Pasta is our Almighty God. This is totally wrong and whoever started this is seriously going to pay unless you repent. Because if you don’t, you and all your believers are all going to burn in HELL for eternity. So pick up a Bible, and READ IT!!
Sincerely,
A Strong Christian
“The Scriptures clearly teach us that God is the Almighty (Job 11:7), who is incomprehensible (Psalm 145:3), infinite (Psalm 147:5), and wholly “other.” Yet, the Bible also tells us that God is knowable (John 17:3; Gal. 4:8-9). This means that though we cannot know Him exhaustively, we can know Him at a level we can comprehend, even if it is limited to our finite abilities. For example, we can know that God is love (1 John 4:8), that He is spirit (John 4:24), and that He communicates to us ( Exodus 20). We can know whatever it is God has revealed to us, because His Self-revelation has been arranged in such a way that we can understand it.
Because God is so incomprehensible and vast, the best way for us to know Him, is for God to reveal Himself to us in word and deed. This is exactly the case in the Incarnation. Jesus is divine, the second Person of the Trinity, the Word made flesh. “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God…. And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth,” (John 1:1,14). Jesus is the exact representation of God (Heb. 1:3), and the only One who can reveal God (Matt. 11:27). Therefore, our ability to know God and also to experience God rests completely and totally with Jesus. Again, we can know God through Jesus Christ; “All things have been handed over to Me by My Father; and no one knows the Son, except the Father; nor does anyone know the Father, except the Son, and anyone to whom the Son wills to reveal Him,” (Matt. 11:27).
Therefore, God is very knowable, because He has made Himself known in a way that we can understand. Jesus, who is God in flesh (John 1:1,14; 20:28; Col. 2:9; Phil. 2:5-8; Heb. 1:8), is our best revelation of God in word and deed, and the truest representation of what God is. And, because of the Incarnation, we can have a relationship with God, because to have a relationship with Jesus is to have a relationship with God: “God is faithful, through whom you were called into fellowship with His Son, Jesus Christ our Lord,” (1 Cor. 1:9).” (carm)
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T_T some people are so mean… i m sry but i think im allergic to the bible *looks down my atheist nose*
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I’ve read the bible twice or thrice. The problem is, the interesting bits are extremely iffy on moral issues and the morality bits tend to be snore-a-riffic. Like, take all the battles and stuff in the Old Testament. Lots of funkeh blood and guts and interesting plot, but FSM is it terrible ethically or what? Then you get Jesus in the New Testament (and mind you I have no problem with Jesus per se, he said some really important and interesting things relevant whatever your religion) and everything gets so slow moving and dull. Call me an impatient teenager (I AM an impatient teenager) but I could absorb moral messages without six page analogies which are harder to understand than the original idea.
Thus, looking at the Bible objectively (as I do since I don’t and have never really believed in God) I think reading it again might make me tear up my extremely posh Cambridge copy I got off my grandparents and throwing it page by boring morally-unsound page out of the window. And that would be a shame, since I’m saving it for when I’m severely short of cash.
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Let me show you why you shouldn’t read the Bible like Aesop’s fables. Look in Hosea 1:1, see the time line, the Bible talks about specific and exacting historical events with details of surroundings and time frame. People say “You can’t believe the Bible it has a bunch of stories” Fantasy stories don’t include details like the Bible which should be taken as fact.
The principle point here is that God communicated through prophets and was specific about the details. God inspired the Bible and we know we should take it as truth, not fiction, because it is written as a historical narrative.
The Bible says in Hebrews 11:1 “Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.”
You doubt God, OK. The Bible talks a great deal of doubt as you know.
Deuteronomy 28:66 “And thy life shall hang in doubt before thee; and thou shalt fear day and night, and shalt have none assurance of thy life:” Matthew 14:31 “And immediately Jesus stretched forth his hand, and caught him, and said unto him, O thou of little faith, wherefore didst thou doubt?” Luke 12:29 “And seek not ye what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink, neither be ye of doubtful mind.” Romans 14:23 “And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.”
Jesus is the answer to the questions of whether we can know anything about God as well as experience Him. Jesus is the way to God (John 14:6), and the One who reveals the truth about God (Matt. 11:27). So, can we know and experience God? Yes, we can, through Jesus. This is the message of truth that we need to convey to the world.
Also, because the Bible tells us that everyone can know through creation there is a God, and that they have this knowledge also embedded upon their hearts (Rom. 1:19-20), you can speak with confidence, knowing the Holy Spirit will confirm the truth of God’s Word in those to whom you speak. This does not mean that everyone will repent and come to Christ. But, it does mean that God will confirm the truth. What the unbelievers do with it, is up to them. You must realize there are those who have suppressed the knowledge of God in their unrighteousness (Rom. 1:18), and have been given over to the depravity of their minds (Rom. 1:24-28).
The atheist asked the Christian, how do you know there is a God? The Christian answered, “I know there is, because I know Him.” The atheist responded, “But how can I know that you are not in error?” The Christian said, “Knowing someone is not proven. It is experienced.”
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believing in a god is BETTER then believing in a flying pasta monster! it just looks like a freaken wannabe ofgary from sponge bob. its pretty sad :/
are world is much to perfect for it to be an acident.
how far the sun is, the rain EVerything, the universe shape
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I’m not an aethiest. I’m a Pastaferian. If you don’t want us to mock your god, don’t mock ours. YOU pick up our Gospel and read IT!! May you be touched by his appendage.
RAmen!
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There is just as much evidence for the Christian God as there is for Krishna, Odin, Zeus, or the FSM.
Many atheists gave up religion because they DID read the Bible – thoroughly. The sheer number of atrocities, contradictions, and outright absurdities make it impossible for anyone to take it as a literal, infallible and divinely-inspired book. That’s not taking into account the discrepancies between versions & translations, of course.
And Dree, mate, while you may find it more comfortable to believe in a god (I myself am somewhat theist), the fact is that there is no “obvious design” except to those who earnestly want to see it. The world is far from perfect. Our distance from the sun changes regularly, and a few miles in either direction would not change much. Life has adapted to Earth, not the other way ’round. (I’m not sure what you mean by “the shape of the universe”… we don’t actually KNOW what the universe looks like from the outside. The reference to something in Sponge Bob is equally mystifying, but possibly gives us a clue as to your age.)
Just for the record, I think the FSM is a bloody wonderful idea, especially the bit with the pirates. Kudos to you all.
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Picked up the bible. Read it. Realized it’s a work of fiction. Decided to read more entertaining books.
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Hahaha:P I am laughing. Which retard would find up a religion like the spagettimonster thing. I think he is mentally retarded, or he got IQ 45:P
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You are a blasphemer! There is no god but the FSM. Your false religion makes me sick! But do not despair, for if you covert to Flying Spaghetti Monsterism you may yet be saved!
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I have read The Bible. I have also read four stories that came before it. What was strange that each story had a man born on December 25th, three kings, the virgin birth, the resurrection etc. I soon realised that if the first story had been copyrighted The Bible could not have been printed else it would have been sued for stealing the story. After only a little research I discovered over 20 texts that came before The Bible telling the exact same story. It turns out that on Dec 25th the SUN rises in line with the 3 kings (stars) of Orion’s Belt. Then it struck me. What has man always had to look at? The stars! Eureka, the entire story, that has been written out so many times, is taken from astronomy. Of course. It is nothing but the movement of the stars. The SUN is the God in the books. Not the SON. Sorry. Amazing though eh?
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Actually, we true atheists KNOW there is no God. And most of us just have a weird sense of humor which is why we make fun of people like you……AND MOCKING YOU IS FUN! You should really try it some time!
P.S. No one is really smart enough if they believe that a “merciful” and “loving” God would send anyone to Hell for a little joke like this. If your God is so great than it is likely that he must also have a good sense of humor and thus thinks YOU are the idiot here!
Love, Sara! :)
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This may be a little off topic, but I have come to realize by reading the different accounts on this site that the christians are generally the ones with horrible grammar, can’t spell, and say things like “what retard would find up a religion like the spegettimonster thing”. It just goes to show who the more intelligent people are, and kind of makes you realize who you should believe. Basically after reading all this, the only thing i can think about is a nice tomato sauce bath with a sprinkling of parmesan. Praise the noodles.
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Could FSM worshippers please advise? In Britain the government are trying to extend faith ’schools’ which teach the Earth is 6,000 years old. What shall we do? Help.
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circular reasoning. everything the bible says is true, so therefore everything the bible says is true. look at the comments from the xians. no evidence of active brain cells. is it real, or is it memorex? I think it’s pretty much memorex.
bunch of unprintable dopes.
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No, actually is people of faith that believe they have the “truth” in their pockets.
Wrong again. YOU are the one that try to mix science and religion. If you think creationism can qualify to be taught as science, then even pastafarism can.
Once again you totally missed the point. Nobody make fun of Christians for believing in God. In fact, if you need science to provide you evidence of God, it means that you don’t believe in Him. If you have faith, you don’t need evidence. Isn’t that what faith is about?
And i believe YOU know WHO is God, right? And then We are the one’s that got it all figured out!!! Wow!!
don’t worry about us…we’ll be fine, and you know why?
Because whomever will judge us, it won’t be a retard like you.
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Wow laughingLOUDER you just proved what self-righteous snobs those in the “religion of atheism” are. And Sara you don’t KNOW that there isn’t a God because you can’t 100% prove it. Just like believers can’t 100% prove he/she/it does exist. Let everyone believe (or disbelieve) what they want and stop being such facists. And people the FSM is a joke (albiet with an agenda driving it) so relax.
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Benny The Ball Jun 13th, 2008 at 11:18 am
“It is nothing but the movement of the stars. The SUN is the God in the books.”
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Sunshine produces a nice halo around the head as well. :)
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OK, so I haven’t read the Bible cover to cover. But I DID see the movie.
Let me see if I have this logic… There is a god because the bible says so.
So everything the Scientologists says is true because there’s the book
Dynanetics. And Germans are the master race because of Mein Kampf.
Perhaps the only books we can truly believe in are cook books where it
tells us to “bring the water to a rolling boil, and cook the pasta for 8 to 11 minutes”.
R”Amen.
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You [Christians] think you have got it all figured out huh? So you THINK you know that there is [a] God so you make up this ridiculous fake [science]. [Intelligent Design]? COME ON!! As if making fun of [Athesists] for [not] believing in God wasn’t bad enough you have to mock us by making up [Intelligent Design]? Yeah, I know that a [Christian] made this crap up, because no one is stupid enough to actually believe [An invisible man in the sky] is our Almighty God. This is totally wrong and whoever started this is seriously going to [not get a job] unless you [get educated]. Because if you don’t, you and all your believers are all going to [flip burgers] for eternity. So pick up a [textbook], and READ IT!!
Sincerely,
A strong [human]
ps. The grammatical mistakes in that paragraph make puppies cry.
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I respect that you may believe the bs that comes out of the bible
but if you want to bag out a just as legit religion
do it somewhere else
because frankly we dont want to hear that “we’re going to burn in hell for eternity”
We believe we will go to FSM heaven and drink beer!
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Open Agnostic: Do you seriously believe that by not being 100% able to disprove God then there is one? That is exactly the kink of irrational thinking that keeps getting laughed out of court. You cannot disprove a negative. We are 99% able to disprove God I think that is a pass in most tests! You cannot disprove a FSM, a hairy sandwich or jelly wombat created the Earth. See how ridiculous you make yourself sound?
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The Bible is fictional people. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHH! Worse still, it’s not even an original story. It is a rip-off of a story that has been told over 20 times before.
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“are world is much to perfect for it to be an acident.”-Dree
After decoding your grammar, I believe you are talking about the Irreducibly Complex argument which ties into Intelligent Design
I’m far too lazy to explain it and refute it so simply type Irreducibly Complex argument and click on the right link, it should tell you that the universe is fine tuned by chance and that complex things like Eyes or the Flagellum have indeed evolved from earlier uses such as half eyes that use a bunch of light sensitive cells and a system bacteria use to kill other cells resembles the protein make up of the Flagellum
You see, from an early age, if say, EVERY SUNDAY you send several hours rejoicing Him, you will soon be touched by his noodly appendage
And btw the FSM isnt devoted to insulting your religion, its devoted to the crack heads who want to brainwash all the children into believing something as false as Intelligent Design which as we all know only points to one creator, Him. This site may be insulting, but it isnt insulting your religion but rather the school’s decision to teach Intelligent Design. Now imagine from the age of four you go every Sunday to be informed about how the FSM created everything and then you go to school to have the teacher’s re establish it as fact. The maker of this site simply wanted to re establish that if you dont want to keep religion and state separate you should have to embrace the ideologies of ALL religions, satirical or not or even the ones as good as pastafarianism
The problem with make believe things is it doesn’t exist if you don’t believe in it, I used to believe in Santa, I no longer believe in Santa, Santa doesn’t exist. It works the other way too but in delusions to people who call themselves prophets and believe that they are special enough to hallucinate a God which isnt Him. Now I cant burn in Hell cause, to me, it doesnt exist, but by being loyal to Him, I am promised beer volcanoes and strippers… what more could I want :D
May you be touched by his noodly appendage for only then will you see your ignorance
-RAmen
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OpenAgnostic:
Atheists don’t have to prove anything because the burden of proof rests solely with the individuals who posit a belief. This means it is the responsibility of the religious to prove that a god exists. Stop trying to shift _your_ burden on to others.
I am an atheist because it is simply illogical to believe in an all powerful, all knowing being who created everything and yet hates his/her creations so much as to cause wars and cast threats at every opportunity. With each passing generation, scientific process gives us more insight into the universe and gives us better technology with which to learn faster. Religion hasn’t given us anything aside from bloodshed and arguments.
Additionally, you might want to understand the meanings of words before you use them. Fascism does not mean what you, apparently, think it does. See the Crusades, the Inquisition and Nazism for examples, all of which were religiously motivated I might add.
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@ Benny The Ball
Exactly – what the hell do we do? And they’re not TRYING – they did it, some years back. The schools are there, though keeping a low profile and denying they teach creationism.
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I dislike you Christians; you are so unlike your Christ.
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Key phrase: “figure it out”, as in apply reason to.
I stopped believing in Santa Claus when I was 6, when I reasoned reindeer couldn’t fly, and
I found out how big the world was.
I stopped being a Christian when I figured out how much I was being told was another Santa
story. How many religious people try to apply reason to their faith? Very, very few. Plus,
they’re strongly encouraged not to! That’s doubting you faith – bad for the franchise. In the
old days (and in many parts of the world, even today) bad for your health.
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I’m awfully tired of hearing that “burn in hell for eternity” scare. Sounds like your god is some
cosmic sadistic little boy who gets endless satisfaction out of pulling the wings off flies. Tell you
what – if there is a god who is that vain he’d torture people for not thinking he exists, wouldn’t
he be parading his celestial ass around constantly? Either way, not who I want to spend eternity with.
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Oh, I see. So a guy/girl/it/none of the above (that no one has ever met, that could look like anything or nothing or none of the above) is both everywhere and in heaven. He (meaning he is a guy, but you cant tell because you never met him or pulled down his underwear, if He owns it) then decided randomly to create Earth, punished women with pain when giving birth, let Adam have all women as below all men (so hes a sexist god), killed thousands of people because he didnt like there beliefs (because apparently, he cant ‘go down to there level’) then buggered off when things got bad… oh, yeh. I see now. Your religion is so much better.
Faith is a matter of opinion, thats what faith is
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“And people the FSM is a joke”, OpenAgnostic
Why are you so offensive? We are faithful, we believe, we do not allow people like you considering our GOD as a joke! And I’m from Italy, the very homeland of spaghetti, so I know what I’m talking about, please show respect, ok?
:P
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I don’t think Christians are the only people who believe in God, Mr. A Strong Christian.
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We just launched a website called Opposing Views that has experts debating questions like “Is there a god?” and allows user comments. I think that that quality of the comments here is great. As the founder, I’m not allowed to participate in our forums or show bias in any way. But, I would REALLY, REALLY like for some people that read this site to make comments on that debate. I will personally promise you a place in atheist heaven. Go here…”
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You Atheists think you have got it all figured out huh?
Published by henderob April 12th, 2007 in Hate Mail (and concerned criticism).
I’m pretty sure that the atheists are the ones willing to question everything because they do NOT have it all figured out. Last I checked having it all figured out was the realm of Xtians, and when they couldn’t explain how its all figured out, its working in mysterious ways.
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Good point, James. Who here has had various sects approach us with literature telling us how to live? Everyone? And how many of those pamphleteers were atheists? None, right?
Seems it’s the religious who think they speak for the almighty, not the non-believers.
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I did not read any of the comments just the original posting.
Atheism is a religion. They call their God evolution. They worship the god called evolution and they create their life according to it.
Religion is nothing more than a collection of thoughts created to help human beings make sense of the world around them and then to enable them to cope with it and live in it.
If an atheist needs to create a spaghetti monster (I do not know what this refers to) in order to make sense of the world the Christians are creating then that is how he is coping.
I believe all worlds are real, all worlds exist. That giant spider in the horror movies eating people is just as real as the ones that visit me once in a while so I can feel powerful by capturing them and taking them outside where they can live a free and wonderful or free and horrible life.
I allow them to be, and I focus upon creating thoughts that help me to make sense of my world. Thoughts that feel good to me. For when I feel good, I can accomplish feats of greatness and feats of smallness. When I attack others when I seek to alter their world into mine, I feel bad and I create illness, anger, frustration, and poison the world of all those I come in contact with.
If they want their spaghetti monsters, if they want to live in a world where they just do not understand Christians, Sikhs, Moslems, Jews, Pantheists (me), then so be it. I will live my life in joy confident that my beliefs are the ones meant for me. And they will live their life in the reality they are creating.
Peace within my heart, acceptance of myself, acceptance of parts of me undesired, is the beginning, the seed from which I nourish all those around me. Athieist, Christians, I know them all. I love them all. I understand that at the very core of each human being is the desire to feel good. All that they are doing is attempting to find their own way to feel good and be true to themselves. Every moment of every day everyone is doing their best. Sometimes our best really really sucks. It is still our best. It is not an easy thing to accept our imperfections. I have a cold, I have not had enough sleep, I am malnourished, I am impoverished, I am so in debt that I can have a computer and connect to the internet, my mother is sick, my new friend is a phychic who hits her children with the energy of anger in her eyes and hurts them far worse than if she hit them with her fists. This is my best. These words, in this moment, is my best. Tough to accept isn’t it?
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Warning: Strong Christians can bench 400+
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You are naive! Do you really think that there is a man up there? looking down on you and all other humans every day, every minute, every second of your whole life? haha, no this is too stupid!
Religion where made for two things! Money and power … Nothing else! Smart people have realized how easily they could control over other people, and made this religious system.
don’t you ever think of it? you certainly pay many thousands to a state-church or to an organization or what. why? do you think that’s gonna make you a better christian! I respect that you have a Religion, and that you want to swim in ignorance. But I’m not late in responding to you when you say you know you’re right! because I know you are wrong. there is too much to say in the religion and you have absolutely no evidence that it at all, is something like a God .. And when I ask a Christian about what he has for a defense, he says the Bible!? WTF?
it was people who wrote it! xD the whole thing is so korupt! and that people do not see it is just ridiculous ..
if you want to know the truth, you must seek the truth, because truth will set you free! and to you other people, you must not let this plague take control over you life! spread the truth, like the Christians spread lies! wwww.zeitgeistmovie.com
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