Even If Jesus was real I whouldent worship him becuse he is a Ass Turd

It is nieve to think that every pilgrim was of the same religion, or that they all had a religion.

In that interval, the Americas developed a secular, humanistic class of people who became the Founding Fathers. Both Jerrerson and Madison were for the strictest separation of church and state. The phrase “wall of separation” which fundamentalists decry and claim is a spurious interpretation of the First Amendment was coined by Jefferson, the selfsame author of that amendment. (Anyone who argues in one breath for a strict constructionist-originalist interpretation of the constitution iand in their second breath proclaims that the first amendment does not mandate a “wall of separation” is profoundly ignorant of the legislative history of the constitution and the intent of its authors).

Then there is Madison, the other author of the Amendment. When the US congress decided to have chaplains in the pay of the government, take a guess what he wrote about it. It is easily enough found if you google it-I wont post the link.

In short, the founding fathers were not the advocates of a Christian city on a hill, that these ignorant fundamentalist proclaim they were. Those advocates, the Cotton Mathers and the like had died out a century before.

As a matter of fact, Xtains fundamentalists are abysmally ignorant of history. How often have they proclaimed that God punished the Roman Empire for the crucifixion of Jesus and of course their pagan sinfulness by allow Rome to fall.
What they omitt is that Rome fell in 433AD and Christ was crucified on or around 33AD. Thus God was punishing a generation of Romans who were as far removed from the guilt of Christ’s crucufixion as we were removed from the Indian massacres of Cotton and Increase Mather. Moreover, Rome adopted Christainity a century earlier, under the emperor Constantine who made it the sole, official religion of the empire. Finally, the Roman empire lasted for another 1000 years in the East with Constantinople (contemporarary Instanbul) as its capital.

It’s a pity more people don’t challenge their facts when they spew this stuff on national tv.

Stop doing that.

OT: Satan doesn’t have a hold on us, because we don’t believe he exists.

–Why dose Satan do what he does? And don’ say he’s evil. Why’s he evil, what does he get out of being evil? Why did he rebel agains god when he was in gods presence, saw god and knew god’s full capabilities?

–Also why doesn’t god just clear up the mystery of whether or not he exists and what laws he wants us to observe. Couldn’t he just buy airtime. And don’t tell me, he wants us to have faith. Why does your god want us to believe in his existence with no evidence of his existence? Why does he want us to believe with no proof? What’s the logical reason for that? If he doen’t want to give us direct evidence of his existence why not at least provide a cogent and convincing reason for its absence?
Everything I’ve ever read in scriptures says somthing to the effect that believing without proof is just “better” Why’s it better, Kim? Did believing the assertiions of people like Hitler and Stalin without convincing evidence prove a wise choice for the German or Russian peoples? When has taking it on faith proven a wise choice for the American people, In Iraq? Given the track record of following and believing like a sheep how could anyone seriously propose that the wisest and most benevolent (accoriding to You) being in the universe would make it a prerequisite for salvation?

The Treaty of Tripolo disagrees with you.