Bryan Killian, a high school student in North Buncombe, North Carolina was suspended for coming to school dressed as a pirate.
But the disciplinary action has provoked controversy – because the student says that the ban violates his rights, as the pirate costume is part of his religion.
Read about it in the Metro or the Citizen-Times.
This story is blowing up and I’ve been having a lot of problems keeping the server running. It’s currently #1 on Digg and Reddit.
I’ll have some updates and more information about all this soon.
Prefer drinking. Btw fries never reach the state of coldness with me ;)
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@Pixel Pop
“I’d sure love to go back to the good ol’ days, but it doesn’t look like the Church is going in that particular direction.”…*wabbit sighs*…I remember Pixel…the abuse, the taunts, Deuteronomy and rock badger…heady days…I miss them to…I’m just one of the flock now of course…my wordy though if I didn’t enjoy being a wabbid wabbit fundy…even if it was just pretend…*wabbit sighs and reads over old McOar hate posts nostalgically *
@Enya
“Without a medical reason this stuff goes only to humans!”…sounds fair…I’m a wabbit and Ships Cat has an internet diagnosed personality disorder…a medical reason if you will…
@Wenchy
“Ahh…Thumper…you’re one of a kind :)))”…I hope so…otherwise someone’s been breaching my ™…
@Rowdy
“It’s awfully difficult to be upset with a wabbit with that look!”…90% of all communication is non verbal…*wabbit does handstand for Rowdy while wagging cotton tail*
@Pansey
*wabbit pats dog while concealing “green dream” injection behind back…
@Alchemist
I’ll be up early tomorrow…will accompany you to visit the Nazi’s if you’re keen…*wabbit goose steps to polka music while holding bier stein and finger across top lip in moustache parody*
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So, gotta go. Its already 10PM and I have a constant 7d/week living Alarm clock in my house!! Have fun!
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Enya Mar 30th, 2007 at 8:03 pm
So, gotta go. Its already 10PM and I have a constant 7d/week living Alarm clock in my house!! Have fun!
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G’nite to you!
Ramen
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Thumper: Polka, beer stein, Nazi… hey, should my nationality being made fun of by stupid clichès… oh FSM will my ancestors country never been washed clean from the dirt of this crazy Austrian Artist? Oh FSM, oh me!!
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go to bed and cry in despair
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@Enya
*wabbit hangs head in guilty manner and shuffles feet*…sorry Enya…Nazi stereotype was thoughtless and inappropriate…please don’t give me the “green dreamâ€â€¦.*wabbit does not intend to imply that veterinary surgeons are cruel to animals by use of the expression “green dreamâ€*
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You may be forgiven… I’ll pack the syringe graciously back (for now). *Yawn*, bed now, not as young as I used to be…
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@Enya
*wabbit presents large, half shaved, purple, irritable cat as peace offering*
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Thumper
*wabbit pats dog while concealing “green dream†injection behind back…”
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*Adjusts eye patch and smiles…showing big teeth*
nother link on name …may have already seen :))
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ps just came back to get forgotten wallet!!! seriously….pub time :)))
erm….. do they have pubs in USA?
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Hang on! That doesn’t sound right!
Think Wench Nikkiee wrote that ps :p
Nikki????
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Woof !!
Bugga! try this one :)))
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@Thumper â„¢ Mar 30th, 2007 at 9:18 pm
@Enya
*wabbit presents large, half shaved, purple, irritable cat as peace offering*
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Kinky!!
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Sorry Bryan Killian….habit!!!
This thread will now be returned to its noral (???:) channel :))
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err….how about “normal*…….whatever that is :))
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@Pansy…definitely no “e”
Wench Nikkiee???…impersonating the pooches Pansy and Pansey!!!…well I never!!! *wabbit slaps cheek, mouth and eyes wide…aghast!!!…ears back…”green dream” syringe dropped and forgotten*…yes…Americans have pubs…but they call them “bars”…*wabbit refers impersonator to old “Cheers” episodes staring “Ted Danson”.
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Bar be it then….))))
Ok now click…now!…not as amusing…. but one of my favourites
*walks away mumbling “bloody wabbits”
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Sheba……my hero :)))
Woof…. wag wag wag :)
Another link :)
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@Wenchy
Good bye Wench Nikkiee…have fun at the pub!!!…wabbits are people to…
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=:)
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R.I.P Sheba…some of us know :))
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@Wenchy and Pansy
…errrr…I couldn’t open the links…”page can’t be displayed”…hope I didn’t miss any fun stuff…wabbits are people to…
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Bugga…… try this link :))
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Think I might be late to this discussion, but as far as I know, in terms of religious gear in school, it’s for the most part allowed. You can wear crosses or stars of david (used to have one but it got lost somewhere along the way…still not sure where *shrug*) and a friend of mine wears her headscarf, despite the typical no-headgear ban; also seen a kid–don’t know him personally–wearing his kepa (Jewish version of the head-covering) around. I think exceptions are made on that ban for religious purposes; my friend’s allowed to keep it on for gym rather then change out of it and all that.
The only things not allowed religion-wise are those that cover up your entire body, like those…what are they called…tent-thingys Muslim women sometimes wear. (Not trying to be offensive, but they do look a bit like tents if you think about it.) And obviously if it has the potential to hurt someone else in the process…don’t think a Sheik could bring in his swords!
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All in all, for my school it seems like if it’s your religion and you can show that you really do follow it, not just trying to be annoying and get away with coming in naked or something (^_^) they’ll work with you.
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Speaking of the old days on the site, who’s the oldest person still around, I wonder? Anyone besides me remember the first round of Bobby’s Last Reply’s postings??
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Bloody hell Thumper….
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“I couldn’t open the links”
Just do it :)))
Wabbits constitute some of my favourite….erm…people :))))
RAmen
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Thumper
Go …Andrew Vachss….Zero…Dogs…Dog strories…Mary BethTestifies
http://www.vachss.com/index.html
RAmen
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http://www.vachss.com/dogs/av_dogs/sheba.html
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*sniff…sniff sniff*
RAmen
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*Sniff* Warrior breed :))
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“Studies have shown that the act of petting animals actually lowers blood pressure in humans.”
http://www.vachss.com/dogs/av_dogs/sheba.html
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@Wenchy
I’m trying to open your links Wenchy but it just aint happenin’…the FSM obviously doesn’t want me to see them…
@Pansy
I’ll give you a meaty bite if you agree to eat the Cat…
@Iron Gill Kidd (Gillian…if I recall correctly)
Perhaps we could open a religious school for Pirates (and their offspring) classes like cutlass handling, creative design (FSM of course), seafaring type ropey skills ‘n’ stuff, sailing…you get the idea…point is we send them home if the attend school NOT dressed in the pirate school uniform…that’ll fix all those wowsers out there…damn wowsers…
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@ Thumper – “@Rowdy
“It’s awfully difficult to be upset with a wabbit with that look!â€â€¦90% of all communication is non verbal…*wabbit does handstand for Rowdy while wagging cotton tail*” I hope it’s not too late for you to get this, Thumpie, but you have just made it impossible for me to even try to be upset with you ever again! ;) Mwah! You are fabulous my wabbit friend!
@ Wench Nikkiee – I have no idea what “normal” is but I’m sure that I don’t like ever being normal! Hee hee!!
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Umm…I love these dogs/people more than most of the two legged ones I’ve ever met ;))
Never pretended to be balanced/perfect :))
If even one person gets to one of the links…and comprehends it….I’m dancing.
I’m dancing any way…just to be putting it out there :)))
Happy? Who me? ??????????
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@ Thumper – Love your idea for a school! Fantastic!
@ Wench Nikkiee – Understand what you mean about dogs. My horse has taught me more about how to live than most humans ever did…And I certainly never claim to be balanced/perfect! :P
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Rowdy (erm…according to my moblie..I’m not very popular at mo …being harassed some people who I was hassling earlier to go to pub/bar…..erm I’m at home at mo :))
No idea why they are annoyed with me :)))
Shit happens !! :))
Worked as a strapper (racehorses …same name in USA?) for a few years as a teenager…thought that was my life goal at the time…NOT!
Not fussed on the racing scene…kinda ignored that angle at the time:(
Had a favourite horse at stables…nicknamed Spider…lotsa stories :)))))
Still a serious horse lover…too much sand here though…colic :((
RAmen
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Gone!!!
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To everyone… Since it’s the end of the month, at exactly midnight on March 31 everyone needs to say “rabbit” to insure another month of good luck. If you don’t do it, tradition here in the States says that the rabbits will come and bite holes in your car tires so you can’t go anywhere. So you better say it. BTW, Thumper is exempt because he is a Wabbit.
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Ohh nice things guys lol, lots off topic though.
And to a few questions asked earlier, the dress code is clearly defined in our handbook, and it specifically says nothing about, eye coverings, or face coverings, just head coverings, like hats and toboggans ect. ect.
If you check this news story I just finished up with a cool guy named Jason Bugg, he came to my school and talked to the principal, and asst. principal (Sarah Cooley), and he personally said she wasn’t the best person, and was pretty rude. But, he went to the school, and got a copy of the dress code, IDK if its going to show up in the internet article hes doing, which is here http://www.mountainx.com/news/2007/argh_suspended_pirate_boy_speaks
I sat down at work during my break with him and did an on tape interview blah blah.
But i’m sure the dress code might make it in the paper, which is out next Wednesday here in Asheville. But I’m sure the site’s article will say something about it. But thank you guys for supporting me, let me get you the schools address and all that junk
North Buncombe High School
890 Clarks Chapel Road
Weaverville, NC 28787
Principal – Jack Evans jack.evans@bcsemail.org
Asst Principal – Sarah Cooley sarah.cooley@bcsemail.org
Asst Principal – Berry Owens barry.owens@bcsemail.org
Asst Principal – Cindy Porter cynthia.porter@bcsemail.org
Buncombe County Board of Education
175 Bingham Road
Asheville, NC 28806
Superintendent – Cliff Dodson cliff.dodson@bcsemail.org
Asst. Superintendent – Tony Baldwin tony.baldwin@bcsemail.org
Asst. Superintendent – Susanne Swanger (she was an asst principal when I was in elementary school, and she was a biotch then lol, idk now, havn’t seen her in forever)
susanne.swager@bcsemail.org
Or if you want to send me cute stuff
Bryan Killian
5 New Covenant Drive
Weaverville, NC 28787
my cell is 828 712 2654
or just email me carnoco@gmail.com
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@ Bryan – I am honored to see you on this thread!! Please excuse the off topic stuff – it happens on every thread we have.
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Alchemist, [*Longish post alert*]
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Did you give the right sense about the Muslim TA here in the UK.
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She was dismissed for refusing to remove her veil and then lost her appeal on the grounds that it interfered with her ability to do her job.
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Which it does.
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In the UK we’ve heard from Lord Hoffman (usually a good egg with a few lapses) who said (in good egg mode) it was important to realise that ‘Right to Practice Your Religion’ doesn’t mean all day and every day every where you go.
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Nearly all the cases in the UK are showing that ‘right to practice your religion’ loses out (and should lose out) in most tie-breaks when head to head with other basic human rights.
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I’m saying I have a problem with Bryan’s school if they discriminate against minority religion (Pastafarianism). We’d live in a terrible world if religion were some trump card that allowed people to force marriages, mutilate childrens genitals, forbid people from helping others, etc.
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;)
I think Peter P is more liberal than me and further towards Anarchist.
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RAmen,
CNS
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Heres a pretty interesting pic shot off the coast of South Carolina by a US military cameraman
http://chamorrobible.org/gpw/gpw-20060808.htm
hmmmm.
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**Off topic alert**
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What happens when you let scientists get bored…
( http://www.newscientist.com/blog/technology/2007/03/top-tiny-creations.html? )
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Sorry, I just had to post it…
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**Topic alert over**
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@Bryan, you are one ballsy kid. Good on you for standing up for the faith.
However, I have to know, did you you just do it for fun, or to actually compare the treatment of religions?
Are there even any open religious references at your school?
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una benda da pirata come un burka? non ci posso credere!
bryan ti sono vicina in questo tuo triste momento!
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prettypic,
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Are threatening an air strike on Bryan’s school from a Pastafarian sympathetic Air Force?
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One half of me thinks “that’s terrible – Pastafarians believe in harmony and understanding and can’t use the stupidity of others as an excuse to bomb them”.
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The other half thinks “Cool”.
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RAmen.
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@ Jingles – Cool link! Off topic, but worth the trip. At least one of the people in the comments section has come here and posted…interesting!
@ prettypic – oh yeah, that’s a cool photo.
@ CNS – “I’m saying I have a problem with Bryan’s school if they discriminate against minority religion (Pastafarianism). We’d live in a terrible world if religion were some trump card that allowed people to force marriages, mutilate childrens genitals, forbid people from helping others, etc.” I can’t imagine what such a world would look like. It would be so difficult for people to get along; so much misunderstanding and anger and hate…I hope we never see that…oh, wait…
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Erm – the
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“Quick question!
How many of you actually do something? How many of you get off your arses?
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We all thing we’re “oh so clever(?sp) – what have you done? ‘cos I’ve enough! It’s your turn!”
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Wasn’t meant as an insult btw :) I really must work on my on-line communication skills :)
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I´m Spanish, I apologize if this is not properly written:
I’ve three close relatives (my father among them) who work in public highschools. Now I feel curious and I’d like to ask them if there is or there is not any rules about clothing in public teaching institutions. I guess there isn’t, in Spain, any general regulation, and that it depends on teachers’ tolerance.
Once, my father asked one student to remove his cap. The student used it to hide earphones, which was known by all the teachers. I think it was the main reason for my father request.
I have worked as a teacher in private institutions, teaching students that needed extra-help to pass their exams. I’d only have problems with them if they wear:
- something that interferes with their learning (two eye patches… :-)
- something that makes hard to identify them (maybe some kinds of sunglasses, caps, hats… definitely a burka!!)
- something that clearly incites to violence (a t-shirt with a swastica)
- something clearly disrespectful towards me (a t-shirt with “our teacher is a b*tch” written on it)
I wouldn’t include a student dressed as a pirate, wearing one eye patch, in any of the above-mentioned categories.
I have to say that I wouldn’t like the exhibition of ostentatious religious or political symbols, as I think people come to my lessons to learn, not to display their believes, but it is a personal judgement and I wouldn’t make any remark to students wearing such symbols unless they involve what I’ve alreadyexplained.
And, after stating that I wouldn’t make any remark, I recognised that I would prefer a eye patch to an islamic veil, as the last one involves, to my mind, the thought that women’s hair incites to sin. Here in Spain, under the dictatorship of Franco, catholic religion (in its strongest interpretation) nearly considered the whole female body as something made by the evil. My grandma would have been thought to be a total sinner and indecent woman if she had gone to school wearing, for instance, trousers.
Since then, we have achieved an enormous freedom. I wore whatever I wanted during my highschool and university years. And I want to continue that way, so no step backwards!
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@Jingles
I love New Sci (shorter articles than SciAm = more chance of me reading them)
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There was an article, phew – at least 15 years ago, about speed traps that made me widdle myself;
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Two cops were out hunting motorists in Scotland with a radar gun.
Suddenly they get a reading of 600(guessing here) MPH! A Tornado jet had passed over and the radar had picked it up. It broke the radar gun!
The Chief wrote a letter to the RAF asking for compensation for the broken radar gun!
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The RAF reply was a classic – something like – think yourselves lucky, the Tornado detected the radar signature of your speed gun. Classed it as hostile and would have launched anti radar missiles at the target! If the Tornado had been carrying missiles, it would have released them!
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I waaanaa fast jet! :)) (fully armed of course!)
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“Captain Noodulous Silicate TBHNA Mar 31st, 2007 at 2:28 am
I think Peter P is more liberal than me and further towards Anarchist.”
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This is an outrage! Me? A liberal anarchist?
Why, I am one of the most conservative people I’ve ever known!
Geeezzzzzz I tell ya! :)
Ramen
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Now who is prepared to turn up in court dressed a pirate, to risk contempt of court?
Seriously the burqah that a few Muslim women iin the UK wear is a million times more disruptive than an eyepath
Praise to Saint Bryan,
a truely noodly one
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@Petey
Someone called you an anarchist, the audacity!
RAmen
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