Bryan Killian, a high school student in North Buncombe, North Carolina was suspended for coming to school dressed as a pirate.
But the disciplinary action has provoked controversy – because the student says that the ban violates his rights, as the pirate costume is part of his religion.
Read about it in the Metro or the Citizen-Times.
This story is blowing up and I’ve been having a lot of problems keeping the server running. It’s currently #1 on Digg and Reddit.
I’ll have some updates and more information about all this soon.
@Enya – UK’s going in the same direction :( – Biometric ID cards, interviews for passports, two party politics – I can’t comment on the US, never lived there – I can comment on the UK though. I HATE the way we are going!
What was it that Hitler used to rally the people?
What are we doing now?
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Alchemist (Pacifist Psychopath)
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Alchemist Mar 30th, 2007 at 4:26 pm
OK – I’m gonna be flamed for this (like I care) Do we know what the school’s rules said?
Do they specify a uniform? OK – this is in the States – but if you sign up for a school you agree to their rules and regulations – wearing an eye patch – ok! I was told to remove my sunglasses once (I was only wearing them to piss the staff off).
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Question – In the UK an unfair dismissal case was overturned recently – muslim teacher (TA – I think) refused to remove her Niqab – case relied on the fact that the eyes are a major source of communication!
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In the US are muslims allowed to wear full niqab? are xtians allowed to wear ‘visible’ religious symbols?
Sorry folks – you know I’m on your side but I won’t jump on a bandwagon without the full details!
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Flame On! Just kidding.
From everything I’ve read so far, it is just a public school here in the states.
It probably has a minor dress code i.e. Girls, no six-inch heels, no mini skirts above the waist, and yes, I hate to say this… Girls no Spaghetti strap halter-tops.
Boys; no bandanna’s or hats, or stupid baggy pants showing your ass crack, no gang colors.
Those are just basic that I can think of. Each school has a right, to implement their own dress code, this is done by the school board of said school (which is comprised mostly of parents) voting on how their kids should dress.
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Again, from what I’ve read so far, this school had a basic dress code.
This kid wore an eye patch, to say that he could.
He did this to say, if you can wear a cross on your neck to show your faith,
I can wear a patch on my eye to show mine.
In my kid’s school, this would be acceptable.
The teachers would laugh about the one eyed handicap.
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As far as the muslims and their full niqab, etc. etc.
If they have a large enough public school system in their neighborhood they certainly have a right to vote such dress in. This is a touchy subject since 9/11, understandable.
It’s not illegal for them to be in public dressed like this (although depending where they were, they could be mobbed).
Again, in my kid’s school, if you showed up in headgear, it would fall under the no headgear rule.
Ok, I could go on and on here, but I’ve gone over my post limit so I’ll shut up.
I tried not to flame you too badly. :)
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Enya Mar 30th, 2007 at 4:46 pm
To PP: I am from Europe and I live in the US for a few years, so I can tell you: it really is worse than I expected! Don’t get me wrong, there are some good things and some people really do think, but there isn’t much freedom or democracy here. If you would live in another civilized country for a while, you would understand. Your president is always preaching democracy and is acting like the dictator of the world. The USA doesn’t approve the world justice court (democracy??) and the USA and Somalia are the only countries in the world where they can have death penalty on children. And you can cry out Nazi-paroles, but you are not allowed to criticize the country (either love it or leave it! Hello, freedom??). I don’t want to be rude, I am a guest here, but you should start looking beyond your borders to change things, you can’t just lean back and stuck to your old ‘it used to be meant…’ structure. Things are changing to the worse and you have to act now. And just the two options to vote… c’mon!!
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Well, I’m not going to argue, as I’ve only lived here.
I do love my Country though, and think I’ve mostly addressed you in my previous post. This administration has made a mess, as I’ve said.
I’ve lived here forty-four years, so maybe your being here only a couple of years, you have no idea how it used to be?
Peace,
Ramen
Peter Popoff
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I don’t know any country with a complete working system, but you should notice it, that’s the point. Don’t have a solution, sorry, not until I find this damn genie-lamp. But I think the countries (especially Europe) should work together instead of mocking or blaming each other or discuss the curving of bananas. We’re all on one Planet, that’s a sad fact and I loath people who feel superior over another, is it religion or country or whatever.
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I wouldn’t say I love my country, cause being born there was just a coincidence. But everybody should care about his country, that’s for sure! But I love this planet… oh, that sounds so hippie, I am a sceptical realist, I guess, not a blind pacifist… but I guess you get the point.
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Peter – It’s a bit more over here – the right to wear religious articles. It’s a major deal!
It’s a situation that cuts me in two (not literally :))
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On one side is the right for an individual to express their own faith:
On the other is the right for others to express their disagreement with said individuals faith.
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I believe religion, no matter what that may be (Catholics, Protestants, Muslims, Scientologists, Evangelical Floorarians, Pastafarians etc) has NO place in any education system! Ok – maybe RS! No more though!
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NO faith based articles should be allowed – including ours!
I do understand the reasons though. If one is allowed, then all should be! I’m a non person
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@Enya – sceptical realist is a good view point IMHO!
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Don’t you think those genetically modified tomatoes are the cause (joke) :))
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try to avoid that. A friend of mine earns his money with genetic engineering and he warned me not to eat that stuff! He must know ;)
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@Alchemist
Buona mattina!!! “OK – I’m gonna be flamed for this (like I care)”…*wabbit stands ready in fire hat holding extinguisher draped in fire retardant blankie*…ummmm…not even any smoke…
@Rowdy
“@ Thumpie – Haven’t had a chance to chat with you in a while. Checked out your pics – the future Mrs. Thumpie is gorgeous…”…have been very busy…also thought I’d keep a low profile with the wenches following the “Catgate” debacle…for the record I’ve refurbished the south end of the warren, Egyptian style, complete with “Bast” statue, silk scratching pole and dried fish dispenser…
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Thanks for the kind words re the future Mrs Thumper…she looks better half naked but I don’t thinks she’d be too pleased if I posted these pic’s about the internet…
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“Alchemist Evangelical Floorarians ”
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Ahhh yes, those damn Evangelical Floorarians!
They’re getting into everything lately! Aarrrrgggghhhh
must destroy them!
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“Enya I wouldn’t say I love my country”
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Well, it’s more of a figure of speech really.
I don’t think I’d drop and hump the ground here,
Alchemist might do that? :)))
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Katanga Thumper! How’s Sunday? – I thought I’d get hit for that comment :)) – slightly pissed off to be honest FTRLMN!
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Watch out – Enya’s a vet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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When you’re free, join this poor, ikkle RGTYIDR on topix.net – sooooooooooooo much fun :)))))
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@PP
“I don’t think I’d drop and hump the ground here,
Alchemist might do that? :)))”
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I have NEVER humped the groun………oh, erm, yeah, ok, ONCE but I didn’t inhale!
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@ Thumpie – No need to keep a low profile! I love the idea of it being “catgate” though! But we all enjoyed the banter and had fun. I for one was not actually upset with you!
@ Alchemist – “NO faith based articles should be allowed – including ours!
I do understand the reasons though. If one is allowed, then all should be!” Agree with you all the way…
@ Enya – It may sound hippie to say you love your planet, but I am with you all the way! It’s a beautiful one and we are mucking it up something awful.
@ Peter – excellent post on dress codes!
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@Enya
“try to avoid that. A friend of mine earns his money with genetic engineering and he warned me not to eat that stuff! He must know ;)”
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Enya – surely those genetically modified tomatoes will help to end world hunger?
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Will some one please stop me!
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Can’t stop, either: There is enough food for everyone, without pampering the genes and not knowing what our bodies process. The food just has to be… what’s the word? …reallocated. Oh, help ME to stop!
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@ Alchemist – “I have NEVER humped the groun………oh, erm, yeah, ok, ONCE but I didn’t inhale!” Wahahahaha!
Will some one please stop me! Get ahold of yourself, man! You can do it! Ok, not that convincing because I want you to keep cracking me up!! :)
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Ah… he did what I was going to. Poor lad beat me to it!
Hello everyone, just… passing by.
RAmen
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@Alchemist
I’ve been neglecting my trolling responsibilities lately…too much going on…can make myself available for some fun, good old fashon mayhem tomorrow though if you’re interested!!!…Enya’s a vet huh…do you think she’s got a “green dream” injection…I know a Cat that needs to sleep more…eternal, uninterupted, peaceful sleep…nice kitty…
@Rowdy
“I for one was not actually upset with you!”…I know Rowdy…how could you be upset with the wabbit…*insert wabbit innocent look*…
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Pixel Pop Mar 30th, 2007 at 6:03 pm
Ah… he did what I was going to. Poor lad beat me to it!
Hello everyone, just… passing by.
RAmen
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Hi Jr dude.
You still can do this! Start a revolution!
I’ve got to make a beer run in a few, so get going with it.
Ramen
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Hi Pixel :)
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Rowdy and Enya – fancy a trip to mayhem? FFS I can’t believe we’re all bloody professionals!
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Hey Thumper, glad someone else is on. It’s been forever since I really came here, a pity I know I’ve been missing out on all the belittling fun.
What’s been going on since I left? I’d sure love to go back to the good ol’ days, but it doesn’t look like the Church is going in that particular direction.
RAmen
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@Petey
There’s no fundies around, but I’d wager I could take ‘em on if they ever came back.
@Alchemist
Hey mate, how’s life treating you?
RAmen
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@Thumper â„¢ Mar 30th, 2007 at 5:36 pm
“…*wabbit stands ready in fire hat holding extinguisher draped in fire retardant blankie*…ummmm…not even any smoke…”
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Ahh…Thumper…you’re one of a kind :)))
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@ Pixel Pop – Glad you could stop by! Lots of stuff going on, frying pans flying about and generally all having a good time.
@ Alchemist – Can’t join you in mayhem I’m afraid. I’m already in trouble for how much time I spend here! I’m in trouble for everything lately though…*insert troubled Rowdy*.
@ Thumpie – It’s awfully difficult to be upset with a wabbit with that look!
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Hi Pixel :) – Pretty ok thanks – I’ve been playing silly buggers for a bit – got the bit between me teeth – playing for IWF.org :))
Need a break – must-be-sarcastic!
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@Rowdy
Oh yeah, I’m sure you’re having a blast. Doesn’t mean much to an old-timer like myself though.
RAmen
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@ Pixely – Yah, I’ve heard it’s not the same around here as it used to be. I was reading posts while TLM was here…everything changes, and maybe we can get some good discussions with fundies going again at some point! Even with the changes, I am still proud to be part of this group. I was wishing Curious Christian would show back up again though.
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I have the TLM.
He’s in my basement! hahahahaha
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Peter Popoff Mar 30th, 2007 at 6:33 pm
I have the TLM.
He’s in my basement! hahahahaha
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I just remembered what a fan he was of the Chemist and myself.
Yep, the good ol’ days.
Ramen
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@Rowdy
Now that we’ve decided to go off on some e-crusade/jihad against the fundies, I don’t know if I can keep up. The church used to be a big part of my life, but now I’ve got other stuff to worry about to.
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Ah… I can remember all the way back to Chad and Mr. Frodo, those were some damn good times. I can even remember when Thumper did his female-slavery thing and I was the only person on to defend the wenches… I was a hero back then…
*TOTAL NOSTALGIA*
RAmen
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Full pirate regalia to school, eh ? Not many steps above toga or top hat…
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Thumper â„¢
“do you think she’s got a “green dream†injection…I know a Cat that needs to sleep more…eternal, uninterupted, peaceful sleep…”
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Grrrrr….snarl….growl…woof woof
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@Rowdy
“I’m in trouble for everything lately though…*insert troubled Rowdy*.”
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Just tell *them* :() It’s good therapy :))))))
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Peter
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“I just remembered what a fan he was of the Chemist and myself.
Yep, the good ol’ days.
Ramen”
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Ya – good times! Good times!
Still – it’s all for teh Lulz!
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Life is a shit! It’s all we have though!
Fnord!
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Alchemist Mar 30th, 2007 at 6:56 pm
Life is a shit! It’s all we have though!
Fnord!
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I’ve also got a left over Happy Meal from lunch.
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Any chips left? Err…fries?
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@Peter – remember to lick teh wrapper :))
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Thumper â„¢
“do you think she’s got a “green dream†injection…I know a Cat that needs to sleep more…eternal, uninterupted, peaceful sleep…â€
Right, Pansy! Without a medical reason this stuff goes only to humans! Ramen!
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Five minutes to late! :)
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Oh Hell – I’ve been playing at the dark side again! What a set of evil fascist wankers!
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So, I just went to the trackback ” What happens if i snort xanax”.
They are selling the stuff, I wanted answers!
Stupid trackbacks!
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Quick question!
How many of you actually do something? How many of you get off your arses?
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We all thing we’re “oh so clever(?sp) – what have you done? ‘cos I’ve enough! It’s your turn!
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That was meant “‘cos I’ve had enough!”
really!
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Hey, I save animals, eat organic (but that’s out of egoism), try to avoid trash and have children… that’s enough… it’s their turn then…
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Alchemist Mar 30th, 2007 at 7:44 pm
Quick question!
How many of you actually do something? How many of you get off your arses?
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We all thing we’re “oh so clever(?sp) – what have you done? ‘cos I’ve enough! It’s your turn!
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I sit I my arse, 24/6/265 (?sp) but I’m really good at drinking beer while doing so!
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I also eat cold fries!
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I definitely don’t eat cold fries… maybe cold Pizza
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Alchemist Mar 30th, 2007 at 7:36 pm
Oh Hell – I’ve been playing at the dark side again! What a set of evil fascist wankers!
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I’ve too busy doing the aforementioned thingies.
Has John shown up yet?
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Enya Mar 30th, 2007 at 7:54 pm
I definitely don’t eat cold fries… maybe cold Pizza
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If you dip them in the cheeseburger sauce, they’re Ok,
Just drink really fast after.
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