Ken Miller’s “The Collapse of Intelligent Design”

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This is a very interesting discussion on the subject of Intelligent Design by Brown University’s Kenneth Miller. It’s just under two hours long, and if you have the time I highly recommend watching it. There is even a mention of Pastafarianism at around 90 minutes.

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  1. 101 - Rowdy Wench - Mar 27th, 2007

    @ Wench Nikkiee – This site seems to attract some rather weird characters! I mean, people with a rousing good sense of fun!

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  2. 102 - Wench Nikkiee - Mar 27th, 2007

    “we should sing a rousing round of “Bestiality’s Best”.”
    Yes and right after the seeming sincerity of his previous post, regarding his sensitive side ;))

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  3. 103 - One-Eyed Jimothy - Mar 27th, 2007

    nah, this is just from sleep deprivation:P

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  4. 104 - Wench Nikkiee - Mar 27th, 2007

    “This site seems to attract some rather weird characters!”
    .
    No Rowdy, it’s just that everyone else spends too much time trying to pretend they are not weird…so therefore everyone here is just honestly normal….whatever that is :))

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  5. 105 - Wench Nikkiee - Mar 27th, 2007

    Sleep or sheep O-EJ??

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  6. 106 - Rowdy Wench - Mar 27th, 2007

    @ OEJ – Ooooh, the sleepy sillies! Been there recently…sleep deprivation that is. I didn’t feel particularly silly.

    @ Wench Nikkiee – do you suppose it is a good idea to just assume (I hate that word, but oh well) that if a pirate says he has a sensitive side we should laugh hysterically and go on? Hahahaha…

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  7. 107 - Rowdy Wench - Mar 27th, 2007

    @ Wench Nikkiee – “it’s just that everyone else spends too much time trying to pretend they are not weird” By FSM that’s the truth! People should revel in their weirdness! I have made people laugh so much more since I gave up hiding my sense of humor…
    “Sleep or sheep O-EJ??” WAHAHAHAHA! Brilliant! :)

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  8. 108 - Wench Nikkiee - Mar 27th, 2007

    hahahahahahahaha

    Pass….next question

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  9. 109 - The FSM loves you - Mar 27th, 2007

    I’m back from something. I know all of you missed me. I don’t know what got into me! But what’s up people???

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  10. 110 - Wench Nikkiee - Mar 27th, 2007

    Rowdy Wench Mar 27th, 2007 at 8:10 pm
    “Sleep or sheep deprivation”.
    .
    Well Alchemist has always seemed to prefer moonlighting with sheep, (I think he takes a torch on moonless nights) so often suffers from sleep deprivation so as to avoid sheep deprivation.

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  11. 111 - Wench Nikkiee - Mar 27th, 2007

    @The FSM loves you
    “But what’s up people???”
    Umm….define “up” :)

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  12. 112 - One-Eyed Jimothy - Mar 27th, 2007

    @ everybody
    I’m not like Alchemist, I just get my kicks outta shaving them during the night:P

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  13. 113 - Rowdy Wench - Mar 27th, 2007

    @ The FSM loves you – Just having our usual good time! Making ourselves and each other laugh…welcome back! I did think it odd that you were gone.

    @ Wench Nikkiee – “Well Alchemist has always seemed to prefer moonlighting with sheep, (I think he takes a torch on moonless nights) so often suffers from sleep deprivation so as to avoid sheep deprivation.” WAHAHAHA!! *Rowdy is breathless* You are killing me here! I am speechless, and you should be proud! That doesn’t happen very often! :)

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  14. 114 - Rowdy Wench - Mar 27th, 2007

    @ everyone – pretty soon we are going to start stories of cow tipping…

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  15. 115 - Wench Nikkiee - Mar 27th, 2007

    @One-Eyed Jimothy Mar 27th, 2007 at 8:23 pm
    “I just get my kicks outta shaving them during the night:P”

    I’m sure blue Shiny Sheep will be happy to hear that O-EJ….probably heaving a big sigh of relief as we speak :))

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  16. 116 - Rowdy Wench - Mar 27th, 2007

    @ Wench Nikkiee – We have another sheep around here – ah yes, Blue Sheep, that will be similarly relieved!

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  17. 117 - Innocent Bystander - Mar 27th, 2007

    Wench Nikkiee Mar 27th, 2007 at 8:04 pm

    “This site seems to attract some rather weird characters!”
    .
    No Rowdy, it’s just that everyone else spends too much time trying to pretend they are not weird…so therefore everyone here is just honestly normal….whatever that is :))
    .
    Ahhh… yes. We are looking in the mirror again. *sigh*

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  18. 118 - Batman - Mar 27th, 2007

    @O-EJ
    Sound like you would enjoy one of our Canadian hobbies, then; cow-tipping. Or do people do that everywhere?

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  19. 119 - Batman - Mar 27th, 2007

    @Rowdy
    HA HA HA HA HA HA… oh no!! Took me too long to catch up on the thread and post a reply… now I feel like an ass!

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  20. 120 - One-Eyed Jimothy - Mar 27th, 2007

    @ Batman
    haven’t done it, not stealthy enough:P and yes, I think its an everywhere thing:P

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  21. 121 - Wench Nikkiee - Mar 27th, 2007

    @One-Eyed Jimothy Mar 27th, 2007 at 8:23 pm
    “I just get my kicks outta shaving them during the”
    Oh I forgot to mention O-EJ, that in Oz they call that “moonlight shearing” and the term has a very specific meaning :))
    .
    @Rowdy
    “you should be proud”
    .
    Yes he has managed to avoid arising the suspicion of most of the local farmers ……I guess that takes talent. Although there was that one time when the newspapers got hold of a story from one of his neighboring farmers…….erm… I’ll let him tell you about that.

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  22. 122 - Batman - Mar 27th, 2007

    @Anyone
    I finally managed to watch the entire video. I kept trying, but getting interupted. So now I have seen it. Don’t really have much to add, the video speaks for itself, but just wanted to say that I loved it. =)

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  23. 123 - Batman - Mar 27th, 2007

    @One Eye
    You don’t have to be that stealthy!! Gotta do it when the fields are moist, so as to avoid rustling the stubble.

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  24. 124 - Rowdy Wench - Mar 27th, 2007

    @ Batman – no need to feel like an ass! I think that just makes us both funny! :)

    @ everyone – it’s 9:45pm in the world where I live and I haven’t had dinner yet coz hubby is on the phone. I think I’ll go kick him…and see if we can eat! Oh, and I’m sober too, which is just annoying!! Hee hee…

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  25. 125 - Wench Nikkiee - Mar 27th, 2007

    @Innocent Bystander Mar 27th, 2007 at 8:31 pm
    *sigh*
    .
    Yes indeed….sigh of boredom here
    Been doing any impersonations lately IB?

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  26. 126 - One-Eyed Jimothy - Mar 27th, 2007

    @ WN
    ……now I’m scared:P

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  27. 127 - Wench Nikkiee - Mar 27th, 2007

    Hi Batman ;)
    You’ll probably be ok O-EJ…just don’t ask “will you shear your sheep” those moonlight shearers are very selfish.

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  28. 128 - Wench Nikkiee - Mar 27th, 2007

    Oh well back to work here :(
    Catch you all later :))

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  29. 129 - Pansy - Mar 27th, 2007

    Innocent Bystander
    sniff….sniff sniff….snarl…woof woof woof…growl..woof woof…grrr..

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  30. 130 - Rowdy Wench - Mar 27th, 2007

    @ Wench Nikkiee – It’s been fun! See ya later…

    @ OEJ – I’m not completely up on who is who all the time…Not sure who Innocent Bystander really is, but you can bet they really aren’t innocent!

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  31. 131 - Batman - Mar 27th, 2007

    Who is innocent bystander? What does he say? I’m too far behind here these days.

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  32. 132 - Rowdy Wench - Mar 27th, 2007

    @ Pansy – Goooood girl! Get him, Pansy, get him!

    @ Batman – I am not certain who he is, but I know he ain’t innocent!

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  33. 133 - Wench Nikkiee - Mar 27th, 2007

    @Batman
    “Who is innocent bystander?”
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    Not 100% sure Batman…have a fairly good idea going from post content, rhetoric and style.
    .
    What does he say? I’m too far behind here these days.
    .
    “What does he say?”
    Nothing worth noting usually…it’s posts appear to be mainly a form attention seeking.
    It has impersonated me in the past (made a slip up and outed itself in a post that was supposedly mine) It seems to just hide behind that tag to make derogatory remarks about posters and how it thinks they should post!
    .
    It was mainly around just before your arrival I think. I have a file of links to its posts…I’ll dig it up later. As Rowdy said though….far from Innocent…think its tag is meant to be sarcastic…maybe.

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  34. 134 - Pansy - Mar 27th, 2007

    Goooood girl! Get him, Pansy, get him!
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    Woof..woof woof….wag wag wag wag…lick lick…wag wag…woof

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  35. 135 - Pansy - Mar 27th, 2007

    Rowdy :)

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  36. 136 - Rowdy Wench - Mar 27th, 2007

    @ Pansy – Thanks! ;) Good girl!

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  37. 137 - Thumper â„¢ - Mar 28th, 2007

    @Pansey
    *wabbit pats dog*
    @Innocent bystander
    *wabbit pats bystander*

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  38. 138 - Wench Nikkiee - Mar 28th, 2007

    *wabbit pats bystander*
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    hahahahahahahaha

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  39. 139 - Gnocci Man - Mar 28th, 2007

    @Pansey
    Good girl! Now do a triple compound backflip with 9.37 meters/second squared constant upward velocity, switching to 1/2 gravitational coefficient in a downwards direction at 31.56 meters high, while singing “Snow (hey oh)” by the Red Hot Chile Peppers and eating a marzipan coated tarsir skull.
    Or just bite someone, if you prefer :)

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  40. 140 - Alchemist - Mar 28th, 2007

    @Thumper
    .
    “@Pansey
    *wabbit pats dog*
    @Innocent bystander
    *wabbit pats bystander*”
    .
    Erm – *Cow pats get everywhere?*

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  41. 141 - Pixel Pop - Mar 28th, 2007

    Sorry folks, I took off the costume and never took any pics, I still have it but there’s not a camera to spare areound here.
    I’ll try and find one for ya.
    RAmen

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  42. 142 - Red DutchPasta Kidd - Mar 28th, 2007

    Alchemist
    Mar 28th, 2007 at 11:42 am
    @Thumper
    Erm – *Cow pats get everywhere?*
    *
    Mwahahahahahah, oh my. :) :) :)

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  43. 143 - Some random person - Mar 28th, 2007

    great lecture, if you have the time, i strongly suggest listening to it.

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  44. 144 - Alchemist - Mar 28th, 2007

    RDPK – make a lethal impromptu “killing discus” too! (when ritually dried to the prescribed manner!)

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  45. 145 - Batman - Mar 28th, 2007

    @everyone
    Is anyone trolling today? I am on a paid “vacation” starting today, and already I am bored.

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  46. 146 - Storm Petrel - Mar 28th, 2007

    If you’re really bored, read some of the really old hate-mail, the stuff from when the fundies were still trying, the more mentions of oars the better ;>

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  47. 147 - Alchemist - Mar 28th, 2007

    @Batman – Weeeell :)
    http://www.topix.net/forum/religion/scientology
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    kinda looks interesting – been pretty active today too :) I’m under a different name – not posted yet but am sorely tempted – I’m in under an old e-mail addy.

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  48. 148 - Batman - Mar 28th, 2007

    @Alchemist
    Sweet! Give me 30 minutes to grab a sandwich and open up a couple of email accounts, and I’ll be in. I can’t keep track of any of my old ones anymore. Better start writing them down.
    .
    I’ll be back.

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  49. 149 - PastaServer134 - Mar 28th, 2007

    The lecture was well worth the time. I especially liked the part about nylonase at the end. Just proves that evolution is alive and going strong.

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  50. 150 - Alchemist - Mar 28th, 2007

    Aargh – Batman. The trouble with temptation is that it’s so damned tempting! I’m the evangelical “Floorarian… we believe that the Universe was created by Ikea -$22.99 per square yard – discount for bulk purchse :)”
    .
    Shit – here we go again
    (btw – I keep my eaddys and pwds in an encrypted pendrive (dirt cheap – plugs into your usb socket) – used to write them down on paper but you can imagine what happens to loose bits of paper with me :)

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