Do you guys like this boat?
(you can’t really tell, but I crossed out the name of the boat, and wrote “church of the fsm”)
(note - in picture 2, there used to be a lady standing on the deck, but I photoshopped her out. You can still sort of see her legs if you look closely)
It’s not a pirate boat. But here’s the thing: it’s also not $2 million. This one’s a Tayana 37. The one pictured isn’t for sale, but they run about $100k, which we could probably handle *right now*.
The official FSM church missionary pirate boat IS going to happen, it’s just a matter of to what degree you want. I want to get everyone’s opinion on this. Wait until we can afford a “real” pirate ship, or get something smaller and start now? The Church makes nowhere near the amount of cash to get a millions-of-dollars boat anytime soon, if ever. The funds now are all coming from the t-shirts, car emblems, and book sales, and they’ve about leveled off. However, we do have a licensing arrangement, and there are some tv interests. That could mean some more cash for the pirate-boat-fund.
And there’s the option of fund-raising, but I’m guessing that people would be apprehensive paying into a fund like this (I would be). And are there that many seriously interested people who would pay $1k or more for a share of a pirate boat? I sort of wonder.
Maybe we could purchase a working boat, like a Baltic Trader (it’s sort of piratey), one of those ships that moves cargo from island to island in the tropics.
(baltic trader)
A trading ship would make enough money to keep it going (boats are crazy-expensive to upkeep). By the way, a Baltic Traders can easily go for a million dollars or more.
As for the actual missionary work we’ll be doing, I think it will take place somewhere tropical. Other than that, maybe we’ll just cruise around and wait for inspiration, like Jesus did.
And, as I’m sure there will be no shortage of volunteers, if we get a smaller boat we’ll have to figure out how to arrange the crewing,etc. And also I heard that it’s somewhat complicated to sail and maneuver around islands and other boats and things, so we’ll have to figure out a way to keep from sinking. Like a rule that at least a couple people onboard at anytime know what they’re doing.
Please discuss, I want to hear everyone’s opinions on this.
Good to see everyone doing their part to stop global warming by becoming pirates
Would selling your house and living on the ship be too crazy to happen? There are plenty of people who do that in retirement and such. Once at sea, you could sell FMS products (and perhaps other stuff as well) in order to pay for the upkeep of the ship and its passengers. It seems plausible to me. Pulling up into a tourist beach town in a pirate-ish ship will attract a lot of attention, and plenty of them will be looking for a tacky souvenir.
@Shorleen Sharleneson Mar 22nd, 2007 at 3:47 pm “Buying a boat seems like a bad idea - really, let’s say we save up hundreds of dollars by scrounging up the last of the possible fund-raising.”
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From the viewpoint of pure rational thinking, you’re absolutely right. From a (A, not THE!) Pastafarian viewpoint, you should look for another type of movement to sustain. No offense meant, but one of the typical aspects of CoFSM is this special mix of rationality, wit and silly humour. Which makes that things, dreamt up in a (sometimes) silly mood, can come true, if enough other Pastafarians are touched by the idea. It is also this aspect that puts off fundies, whose total lack of wit and humour is notorious, as are their bad grammar and worse spelling. Maybe the ship is a silly idea. Maybe the ship will be sailing in all its glory within a year, and be the big event of 2008, overshadowing whatever result comes forth of the US elections! Don’t misunderestimate the FSM!
RAmen!
First of all: WE SHOULD HAVE A BOAT!
This idea is simply to great to be abandoned. Alone the attention would be worth the money.
I think we could get a little business running by buying a small boat first, using it for cruises, renting it out etc. This money could then be spent on an even bigger boat!
Concerning using the money on commercials etc., I really think much of this stuff could be done by volunteers. There are so many Pastafarians out there, some of them must be able to design posters, do songs and so forth. Perhaps Bobby should put a call out there for pastafarians to promote the faith?
What you got to do is get a ship in mind then have naming rights for various parts of the ship. Sell the main deck for $10,000 a bench on the ship for $500. You can also sell the name of the ship for $1,000,000. Or what ever value you think would be good for each part. once you get the funds and the ship buy plaques for each area with a picture of the person announcing that part of the ship is named after him.
So what we would have is the “Bobby Henderson FSM pirate ship” the “Nate Bryant Main Deck” the “Brett Trembly Stateroom” the “Eric Smith Galley” ect. This is a very easy way to raise money for any big project. We can even do corporate sponsorships the “Nissan Noodle Ship” or what ever.
Also have different levels of sponsorships that aren’t big enough for the various areas of the ship. So a $100 donation gets you a bronze circle, $500 silver circle and $1000 the gold circle (or what ever you want to name it) and have a giant plaque a the entrance to the ship with all the names of the people who donated enough to make it.
No offence to anyone, but we ARE pirates, are we not? So, why not get a smaller boat to begin with, and just “borrow” stuff until we can afford a bigger boat? I would gladly work on the boat during the summer, but I am just a student, and have no money to donate, unfortunately.
Haha nice
A@dam Reimer Mar 29th, 2007 at 11:33 pm
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“Haha nice”
.It’s all nioce….which bit???
err..nice even :)
I’m fairly disappointed at this conception, though pirates and thus pirates boats are surely divine messengers and avatars I must remind you all of our noodliness’ wishes.
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6. I’d really rather you didn’t build multi million-dollar churches/temples/mosques/shrines to my noodly goodness when the money could be better spent (take your pick):
1. Ending poverty
2. Curing diseases
3. Living in peace, loving with passion, and lowering the cost of cable
I might be a complex-carbohydrate omniscient being, but I enjoy the simple things in life. I ought to know. I AM the creator.
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Isn’t buying a pirate boat exactly the same as building a church/temple/shrine? Although the boat could perhaps be used to help end poverty, cure disease, live in peace, love with passion, or lower the cost of cable, there seem more efficient ways to do this with the amount of money involved.
Just something to keep in mind.
This boat rocks!! It’s a hotter version of a pirate ship =] xx
buy a cheap john boat
that ship, is crap
While it is true that the FSM decrees that we not waste money on trying to convert others, he did not say that we shouldn’t buy a wikid sik pirate ship and have loads of fun, connect the followers ect.
I am an Australian and I’m thinking that it would be great to sail that thing over here so i can go for a spin.
I have also taken a trip on the Young Endeavour (google it) and i think the advantages of sail training to pastafarians would be great.
Possibly an online register of volunteer crew with nearest coastal city and avaliable weeks would be a good idea. I personally liked that baltic trader but it is really at the Prophet Bob’s discression.
@ pyrette
another aussie… awesome, you should go on live chat some time.
as for the ship, we’re hoping for ne that actually looks piratey.
@ angryyoungatheist
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We did try to negotiate for a second-hand Soviet battleship last year. A poster called Pokk was going to sort us out but I think the CIA got wind of the operation :(
a FSM vessal has to have two qualities.
1. No electric motor. must have little or no new technolgies on it. If the pirates could sail without GPS’s then s can we.
2. a crew. how can you get at least 13 pastafrains together?
Don’t forget weapons.
Can’t pillage without heavy artillery!
Must have a yellow and purple cannon!