Yeah, I know it’s satire. I’m an atheist, and I hate stupid, narrow-minded fundies as much as anyone. But honestly, this joke has run its course. People’s lives can actually get ripped apart by Pastafarianism, though I know you don’t really believe it. Not as many as by organized religion, but organized religion can’t really be stopped except by massive revolution, whereas Pastafarianism can be. It was funny for a while, but you don’t seem to realize (actually, some of you probably do) that no one cares anymore, that all the hate mail is faked. Stop laughing at the rest of the world, and realize that you’re not better than the people who post your hatemail; it’s a /joke/. And your religion has lost its humor. So shut up when talking to people you think are stupid. That was the /real /meaning of the “atheists are so arrogant” post. He was pointing out that /you/ were so arrogant in believing that there were really that many stupid people in the world. Some of you, I am now sure, know that all this hatemail is faked. Tell the others, and get everyone to stop acting such a fool.
RAmen,
bbctol
FSM won’t rip people’s lives apart, it’s not like people even have to do anything to be Pastafarian, there’s no curch on Sunday you have to go to, there’s no holdays which u have to practice, and u don’t have to donate huge sums of money. This is as much a religion as any other and even less strict. Also, this “joke” has not run it’s course, there are still millions of people who come here, people like the FSM idea, and it isn’t really even only a joke anymore. Not all the hatemail is actually fake, there r aot of pissed off people who r religious fantics. People do care, it might not be as obvious anymore, but there are still people who do FSM related stuff and talk about FSM. FSMism isn’t atheist, and personally i don’t think that people beliveing other things aren’t always stupid. People posting hatemail have the right to believe whatever they want and they can say it. So, y don’t you leave us alone, we can believe and say what we want, we’re not hurting anyone. Anyway RAmen and sorry for all the spelling/grammar errors, i hope u get the point anyway.
I see what you mean, but can’t this just become a fun website at least?! Plus pastafarianism still has a long way to go and plenty of people to irritate in other countries than the US. The rest of the world needs to be educated about how stupid Kansas can be.
Who says we’re trying to stop organized religion? Just trying to keep religion out of science class is ambitious enough. Besides, I’d never recommend tearing down a belief system simply because it’s not my belief system.
And what is this arrogance thing? We pastafarians are entertaining each other. If it bothers you, go away!
And if this web site tears me apart, it was worth it. Beer volcanoes (Lake Superior Oatmeal Stout, please) await.
RAmen
@bbctol Pastafarianism can be stopped.
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Cool; go on then.
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Is there a time frame involved, today would be mega, this week impressive, before March I’d say well done, before the US has a female president (go on Hillary you know you want it)……
the longer you take stopping it the more you may have to eat your words.
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I’ll just go on eating the pasta, peacefully of course, no ripping of lives.
FSM has, without me fully realizing it, distanced me incredibly from my family, who I thought would be fine with me being an atheist. And no, Pastafarianism isn’t really a religion. You know that. It’s a way of protesting strict religions. Of course people still like the FSM idea, and people do come here, just not new people. Pastafarianism has become just a way for atheists and agnostics to meet and talk about how much fundies piss them off. Of course people believing other things aren’t stupid, often faith can broaden our minds. The people who are stupid are the thick-skulled fundies for whom religion closes their mind, and they won’t accept anything into their minds that does not correlate with what they were first taught. Luckily, there aren’t that many of those people. And yes, people posting hatemail can say what they want, I’m just telling you to not be so smug when denouncing obvious fakes. I’m pretty sure you’re aware that almost all the most recent hatemails are fake. I’m telling you to not be so smug in the way you denounce people who clearly just want to get a reaction. They’ll just continue.
I never said you’re trying to stop organized religion; I used that as an example of why Pastafarianism should be changed. I have nothing at all against organized religion. And of course you don’t actively rip lives apart; plenty of lives have been ripped apart by Christianity, but how many Christians spend their time actively destroting people’s lives?
@ bbctol distanced me from my family
That is very sad, if you scream your atheism or wear outwardly like, oh a cross around your neck, you will alienate people just as much as Jehovas Witnesess do when they try to force feed their philosophy over your door step.
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In my family I am in the minority, of two. We do not think our relatives are stupid, we do not try to convert them or feel the need to “come out of the closet”.
They are fully entitled to their beliefs, most of them know mine and we have enough respect for each other’s freedom to choose that we leave it at that.
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It is a tough stretch to see what in what area faith broadens the mind?
But this site allows the individual to engage in the sort of debate that would not necesarily be a good idea across the dinner table. Broadening the mind perhaps?
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And often the hatemail is fun and responding to it a bit of a laugh.
So who gets hurt, apart from the odd keyboard?
@bbctol
but how many Christians spend their time actively destroting people’s lives?
Two words. Jerry Falwell. Tells people to hate their own gay children or parents. That’s pretty active.
Oh, but it is a religion ;-) . Look, stupidity has to have opposition, and the FSM is a conccept to show stupidity a form of mirror.
They can’t disprove FSM, we cna’t disprove GOD (which ever version)
@ bbctol christians changing lives
You mean like collecting for those poor little chlidren in Africa, the money then going on:
Schools, NO
Hospitals, NO
Missionaries, naturally as they need to be converted to our religion, their own culture (which is probably older and no less illogical) has no value.
We then discourage contraception, where has that taken Africa. And intruduce a new element to tribal war, sectarianism.
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I know the Christians filling the collection plate are well meaning and kind, the end result is still misery.
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As the Eagles put it so succinctly on Hotel California, The Last Resort:
just like the missionaries did, so many years ago
They even brought a neon sign Jesus is coming
brought the white mans burden down
brought the white mans reign
Jerry Falwell falls under the “stupid fundies” category. How many ordinary, non-fundamentalist Christians spend their time actively destroying relationships? None. But it still happens, just as with FSM.
Oooh, think I sit here for a little while.
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@bbctol - you do realise that Soldier of God, author of the Arrogant Atheist email, is a Pastafarian. He was faking it! Don’t tell me you fell for a fake e-mail?
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Mercy me!
@bbctol
Erm, maybe I’m just being thick headed here, but how does FSM actively destroy relationships? I come from a family of religious folks, which I know can cause tension and distance when one decides to think for oneself rather than following the rest of the herd. I don’t think it is FSM that has distanced you from your family, I think it is your own personal un-belief system. My family has accused me of reading hate literature when Dawkin’s The God Delusion was left out in plain sight. This FSM site is more about people who don’t want to subscribe to the traditional religions coming here and discussing their ideas. It is also a site where like-minded people can find support for their activist activities and find common ground. It is your family that has the problem, not yourself, and whether you had ever found this site or not, you would still be in the position you are in. I can’t discuss my “beliefs” with my family, so I come here, where everyone has a voice and people are encouraging and very smart. I think you should take things for what they are, rather than blaming your problems on others.
Mercy, Halleluja, praise the Lord
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Oops came over all Southern Baptist for a moment there.
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What do you mean which one? Buddha of course, for I am one with the Four Nobel Truths.
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1. Life is suffering (cheerful)
2. All suffering is caused by ignorance (RAmen to that)
3. Suffering can be ended by overcoming ignorance. (all praise the webmaster)
4. Pasta is a damn tasty dish and good for you too.
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Ok that last one’s not right but it is much less pretentious
@ Batman re The God Delusion
I just got distant cries of, “he’s reading that damned book again.
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Although they did enjoy some of the more amusing tales.
And surprise surprise any tale that showed someone elses religion in a poor ligth was seen as wholly acceptable.
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Oh to be self righteous
@bbctol - you do realise that Soldier of God, author of the Arrogant Atheist email, is a Pastafarian. He was faking it! Don’t tell me you fell for a fake e-mail?
Oh yes, the dreaded conspiracy which involves sending hatemail to fsm in order to execute the devious scheme….errr…
what is the point of the evil scheme?
@BBCTOL
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Please explain “ripped apart by Pastafarianism.”
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“plenty of lives have been ripped apart by Christianity, but how many Christians spend their time actively destroting people’s lives?”
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98%, whether they know it or not. And I’m still not sure how we are “actively destroting people’s lives.” Really, please explain.
-Veritas
By the way, my entire family is LDS (mormon). The second I stopped going to church, they changed our relationship, not I. They stopped treating me like one of the family. When there is a family get together, they treat me like I worship the devil himself. Now these people claim to be the most loving, forgiving, kind, and humble of religions. Really?
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But I suppose you are right, I am the one who ruined our relationship. I am the one who doesn’t believe in their religion, and stopped participating. Therefore, I (being pastafarian and all) have fucked yet another life(s) up. You win, good game.
-Veritas
@Privateer
Yeah, I’ve seen a lot more evidence of that kind of self-righteous attitude in my own family than I even want to admit. =S We had a big family dinner on the weekend (they’re all good little christians, so there are a lot of us) and I am sad to say that I honestly dislike many of my family members. That’s not because of FSM, it is because of their hypocritical, assinine behavior.
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Sorry, today is an absolute shit day, so I might come across as grumpier than I really am. I’m up in Calgary, and I am third generation… for those who don’t know this, Calgary doesn’t quite qualify for bible belt status (that’s out in Saskatchewan, I believe) but it is certainly the redneck capital of Canada. Just check out our Calgary Stampede and the Head Smashed in Buffalo Jump and other charming cowboy museums. While my family has no problem telling me that I am destined for a fiery eternity of hell, they have no problem making jokes against other religions, and their idea of REALLY funny humor is anything mocking people of different races, sexism, and any bigoted remark is greeted with uproarious laughter.
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I hope you don’t all hate me, knowing where I come from now. I swear I am not like these people… and while I am getting more distanced from them everyday, I don’t think it has anything to do with FSM. I think it is more to do with my distaste for intolerance and ignorance.