Wired’s Gadget Lab takes a look at these speakers which clearly have a close resemblance to the FSM. Coincidence?
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An elaborate spoof on Intelligent Design, The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is neither too elaborate nor too spoofy to succeed in nailing the fallacies of ID. It's even wackier than Jonathan Swift's suggestion that the Irish eat their children as a way to keep them from being a burden, and it may offend just as many people, but Henderson, described elsewhere as a 25-year-old "out-of-work physics major," puts satire to the same serious use that Swift did. Oh, yes, it is very funny. -- Scientific American
The odd’s on getting any EU constitution, whether its secular, christian or declares the FSM as the founder of Europe is very unlikely full stop.
Generally not a big fan of constitutions which tend to have vague and meaningless words like ‘freedom’ or ‘rights to this or that’
Nothing wrong with the philosophy but in practice just leads to unelected judges deciding on laws instead of politicans , and if there is one group of people at least in the uk who have less respect than politicans its judges
@All people in Europe: Wow. Hope you guys can get that stopped. But it doesn’t sound like it will get passed, too much controversy.
@Jean Bart
Yes I saw those in a CNET gizmos section. That had a nice line at the end when they summarised them as ‘Now that’s Intelligent Design!’. I thought that was funny.
@Alchemist
Never mind splattering it over multiple threads, it does warrant every European Pastafarians attention. And sure, I’ll sign the petiton when it comes online.
@Captain
The Dutch or Danish populations may indeed not approve it. But remember, plenty of governments didn’t consult their population over the constitution last round. In Germany the parliament just approved it, as in many other countries. And the new Dutch coalition government will have a disgustingly Christian little party in it and one of the two big coalition parties is the mainstream Christian democrats. Together they might just decide not to consult the population but say ‘Heck yes, give us a Christianity-infested constitution’ on their behalf.
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All of a sudden an atheist non-democratic system like China is looking remarkably good. I suspect that some US pastafarians must be starting do doubt their trust in democracy given that that gave them a Bible-belt controlled government that would love nothing better than make the US a theocracy. If Merkel gets her way I may develop similar feelings about things in Europe.
And here is another bit on the EU constitution:
http://www.secularism.org.uk/secularismundersiege.html
@DutchPastaGuy Feb 18th, 2007 at 8:37 am “And here is another bit on the EU constitution:
http://www.secularism.org.uk/secularismundersiege.html”
I’ll add it to my post in the “Politic Issues” in the forums section. I’ve added a second post, which contains a poll, to attract more Europeans to the debate. Not easy to draw their attention, though: mostly Americans browse the forums.
Jean Bart, DPG - Thanks, I’ll jump into the forums soon. I need to brush up on the Treaty of Rome, I’ve got it somewhere. This is a real fight I’m afraid, as such it needs facts and legal arguments. No playing silly Alchemist on this one :(
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@ all that think this is no big thing.
Sorry folks - it is! We can sit on our arses and think “naah, France will never buy it. It’s to keep Turkey out. The UK won’t sign it. etc etc.
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If no one opposes it though, ie us! than it will happen.
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Add to that the direction we are taking by even contemplating this and we must stand up and be counted.
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It might come to nothing but I, for one (and Jean Bart and DPG also) will NOT take that chance.
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Rant over :)
@Alchemist
Good luck with that laddie!
With the FSM and logic on our side, we’re bound to win this one.
RAmen
DPG, I sure didn’t vote for them! But for the next few years they’ll be making the decisions and they just might go along with it. Not sure if balkenende (aka bakellende) manages to keep it together for four years this time though.
Pixie babe :)
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I bloody well hope so Pixel. Since being here at CoFSM I’ve seen the damage and fear that fundamentalism breeds - not at the regulars BTW :)
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The hatred they spew, well, what can I add!
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I don’t want that to happen in the UK. Sadly it is though. With the rise in fundamentalism in one religion others follow. 30% of British Muslims demand Sharia Law within the UK. Christian groups will follow them. You can bet on that!
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I do not want to live in a Country where I am persecuted for my lack of belief.
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Pixel. This is a wake-up call to me! If I don’t act and expect others to act for me.. well. It will be my fault when the Inquisition starts banging on my door!
@Alchemist
If I didn’t live in the good ol’ US of A I’d help you in any way I could.
It’s a pity what the world’s come too.
RAmen
@Alchemist
“Pixie babe”
I’m a man, please don’t call me babe.
RAmen
I call people love and babe all the time Pixel :) Irrespective of their sex :)
Thanks for the offer BTW. You have your hands full already. I just want to make sure it doesn’t happen over here!
@Alchemist
Oh that makes sense, babe! :)
I know what you mean, I’m doing so much to be involved in national and international affairs it’s crazy. I’m part of the Barack Obama campaign and the Church and I’m only a wee lad.
I care about my planet.
RAmen
@Pixiebabe.
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Wee lad my &%$*(£()
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@Alchemist & Pixel Pop
You guys (girls? people?) are awesome… it’s good to see people who care about the issues that affect them and mean a lot to them. Seems to be many selfish people about these days, so when others decide to take a stand or try to make a difference it means a great deal.
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@Alchemist
I went to the site for the book drive, but it wouldn’t accept my donation! Sorry! But I am telling everyone I know about it (excluding my family who all think that a disbelief in god automatically means I believe in, and worship, satan), and hopefully they will either donate, or sign the petition, or do whatever they can. Not only do we not want it to happen where you are, we don’t want this kind of thing to happen anywhere.
@Alchemist
I’d wager I’m one of the youngest people in the Church.
@Batman
I do what I can. My family thinks I’m a cultist freak, Christians are so naiive, not to mention narrow-minded.
RAmen
@Alchemist
Don’t wait too long, because I’ve probably discontented the forum’s moderator by starting a second thread, almost identical but with a poll attached to it. I’ve already received the remark “Already posted this, dude, under “European Constitution goes Christian?”… Since venganza is mainly visited and peopled by English speaking folks, the forum activity on that thread will have to come mainly from the British!
The call is heeded JB. Will dive in soon. Thank you. I’m about to splatter it over Dawkins’ in a minute or two. Just been doing a few things today (not in the Biblical sense, alas :))
@Batman
“I went to the site for the book drive, but it wouldn’t accept my donation!”
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What stage did you get to before it went wrong, what was the error?
I warmly welcome your willingness to make a donation! Email the organisers at church-and-state@jamiechristie.com if you want to make a pledge for one constituency but the server keeps refusing you. I don’t think it was UK residents only. Why should it be? The DVDs that a UK creationist organistion recently sent to UK schools (Truth in Science) came from the US. Why should only the fundies be allowed to organise internationally?
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The Downing street website petitions against creationism in schools are only for UK residents or citizens living abroad, you can’t contribute to those.