During the course of my research into condensed stages of DNA my colleague and I came upon this paper. “Nanoscopic structure of DNA condensed for gene delivery”, Dunlap et al, Nucleic Acids Research, (1997), Vol 25, No. 15, Pgs 3095-3101.
Please examine Figure 2c, and be enlightened.
In fact DNA seems to naturally condense into nano-toroids reminiscent of his Noodliness. Since DNA is the precursor for all life, and His image is seen in DNA, then we must assume that The Most High Pasta is in us all.
May his appendages be ever moist.
RamenMike
@Peter Popoff,
I do need one of those shirts! I’m not known for being much of a cook, but I can make a mean ramen.
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Jean. hahaha. I’m really getting caught up in the “what did that imply” thing at the mo. It really is an occupational disease.
19 was a damned good age! 1st/2nd year Uni. I haven’t a clue what happened but I know I enjoyed it.
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Test.
I’m back in business!
OEJ- Ship’s Navigator, temporarily lost somewhere around the Great Horn.
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Welcome back OEJ… but be warned… you might have a challenger for your position.
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@ Jingles—”Welcome back OEJ… but be warned… you might have a challenger for your position.”
No fear, if there’s room aboard this ship for more than one captain, surely Spider won’t mind another navigator.
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You should have more than one of everything, unless the captains. navigators etc want to be on duty all the time? Don’t they want some time off, for a grog or something??
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Ta-Da… Back from a good weekends grog. Nope don’t mind, more the merrier and i get to drink more!
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19 is a tip top age, I’m right there now – 3rd year Uni. And can I say that as a Human Biology Major student that it’s just so damn true. His Noodliness appears everywhere in histology and in animal diversity. This image of Drosophila (fruitfly) polytene DNA demonstrates even better what originally posted, with a methylated, meatball-ish centre.
http://www.bio.jhu.edu/~corces/Research2_files/polyene%20copy.jpg
http://www.steve.gb.com/images/science/polytene.gif
Even flatworms have a motion similar to a flailing pasta strand, or the flagellum which is ‘ I rre D ucibly complex’ (almost), and as Saucy noted – Rough ER does have a FSMesque appearance, for creating spiral (helical) strand and flat proteins. Effects of certain genes (such as Neuropilin 1) cause neurons and blood vessels to create noodly pathways away from each other. Clearly the fundies creators haven’t picked up a text in 1100-2000 years (bible took 9 centuries to compile).
RAmen
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Talk like a pirate day..
I think that September the 19 should be a holiday for all us pastafarian…
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@Jon
It is :)
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@ Red DutchPasta Kidd
“Don’t they want some time off, for a grog or something??”
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A real pirate can take his grog and still manage to navigate! In theory, until the stars above you start moving, or the little monsters on the part of the map labeled “There be Dragons here!” come alive, you have no excuse not to be a fully competent pirate at all times.
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This includes when you’re asleep, in case our greatest foe, the Ninja, come at us in the dark.
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I’m also testing to see if adding a website to my name is retroactive or not… I’m shirtless in the picture there, so sheild yer eyes!
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Ok then all, with the lack of fundamentalists around I think many pastafarians are getting withdrawl symptoms *need…. something…to…laugh..at/…prove…..wrong* *takes long swig of grog* ohhhhh yeeeeaaaaaaaahhhhhhh. thats nioce. anyway, i have decieded to (just this once) take up a fundamentalist position (don’t want to do this too many times, coz then i’ll get into heaven and not have anyone intelligent to talk to).
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THIS IS STUPID! jst becoz a bit of dna happens to look like spaghetti, it doesnt mean ur god is reel! that iz onli correct if it is a picture of our lord jesus in a bowl of soup. anythig elsse is a lye and you will go to hell and burn and die and be eternally punished for your sins and have red hot pokers stuffed up yor botoms. I EAT YOUR GOD! christanity dosent neeed a graph becoz it is the troof!
did i do good? *pleased look of anticipation*
*Note to Fundamentalists*
Apologies. I know most of yuo aren’t like this. Just the ones that post on this site :D
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We’re all made of noodly stuff. Even you, Eggy.
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Egg noodles are made of eggy and noodly stuff, Eggy.
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Eggy. Very good! hahaha.
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@ Eggy
Meh, is it really necessary to pick on the fundies completely unfounded?
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I like to think they do a good enough job of making fun of themselves… *points to Kent Hovind, Ted Haggard, etc. etc.*
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They generally don’t realise how rediculous they are though, so we should keep doing them the favour of pointing it out, more fun that way
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COOL! im an FSM!
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Ok, it’s official, I’ve converted to FSMism. I am convinced.
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@Jon Jan 30th, 2007 at 7:14 am
“Talk like a pirate day..
I think that September the 19 should be a holiday for all us pastafarian…”
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Eek…another Jon…what are the odds? :) :)
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Romans 1:20-25
“From the time the world was created, people have seen the earth and sky and all that God made. They can clearly see His invisible qualities-His eternal power and divine nature. So they have no excuse whatsoever for not knowing God. Yes, they knew God, but they wouldn’t worship Him as God or even give Him thanks. And they began to think up foolish ideas of what God was like. The result was that their minds became dark and confused. Claiming to be wise, they became utter fools instead. And instead of worshiping the glorious, ever-living God, they worshiped idols made to look like mere people, or birds and animals and snakes (and food). So God let them go ahead and do whatever shameful things their hearts desired, to dishonor their bodies among themselves. Instead of believing what they knew was the truth about God, they deliberately chose to believe lies. So they worshiped the things God made but not the Creator Himself, who is to be forever praised. Amen”
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Romans 1:20-25 “…They can clearly see His invisible qualities-His eternal power and divine nature. So they have no excuse whatsoever for not knowing God…”
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this argument has been put forward so many times it’s becoming dull, please reread some of the threads if you want a detailed answer, but i’ll summarise for you…
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Navigator Spider. At soem point. “…bollocks…”
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Actually, Spider, I see this as a biblical description of His Noodliness. The (and food) bit was added by Fanatic as a diversionary tactic, but clearly, this is further evidence supporting the existence of the FSM and disproving the Xtian god.
RAmen
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And instead of worshiping the glorious, ever-living God, they worshiped idols made to look like mere people, or birds and animals and snakes
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Well that rules the christian god out! So nice if they defeat their own arguments!
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i prefer the more efficient answer. it’s satisfying to say…
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@ Fanatic
‘God did it’ is just another way of saying ‘I don’t know’. Not understanding the universe is not proof of the existence of a god, but rather that we have much more to learn.
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Being a lifelong atheist (before my conversion to FSMism that is…) I find it incredible that people still quote stuff written in the bronze age by an unknown author as convincing arguments. Just because it’s still there doesn’t make it right. Who knows what political/other agendas the writer had, who he was or if he was reliable even a couple of millenia ago? Or who has changed it for what purpose during the numerous translations? And by the way
‘They can clearly see His invisible qualities-His eternal power and divine nature. ‘
They can clearly see his invisible qualities??? Help? this person had to be smoking something. Not that I’m against that, per se…
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I must say I was pleasantly surprised, I expected far more lash back then I received. A few took stabs at the scriptures I quoted, and the beliefs I cling to; but none made any stabs at me personally so thank you. I mean that, thank you. I also would like to thank you guys for allowing me to say my two cents. We obviously don’t see eye to eye, and I do recognize that quoting the Bible is almost pointless in such a forum; because for most the Bible is the very article in question, but no one attacked me for it so thanks. Were I as ignorant as some of those whom claim to believe the same as I, then I would try and rant and rave about “you’re goin’ to hell…” blah blah blah. Its humorous to me how they try and scare you into believing, but the means by which they wish to scare, you don’t believe in anyway.
I wont do that, what I will do though is perhaps even more crazy…I love you guys. I don’t know any of you, I will probably never see any of you, or perhaps we have already met and just don’t know it; either way I love you. Because Christ has shown me so much love I cant help but love all of you. I recognize that this may not mean much for most but know that I will lift up all of you in my prayers. May the grace and mercy of the Lord Jesus Christ be with you all.
In Christ,
Fanatic
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wow. If that’s true, about the love thing, then I suppose you’re a really nice person. And I thank you for being polite and nice, and showing us that not all religious people are crazy bad grammer users. But on the other hand, you really don’t need to pray for me. I’m going to keep on believing what I believe, and that does not include your god. In fact, I probably will continue to not only disregard him but encourage others to do the same, becuase I think that he is simply a man made object that causes harm when you put him in certain places. But RAmen to you and your polite kindness. Cheers^_^
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Fanatic. You really are welcome here. Please realise that non-christians can love others too! You don’t have a monopoly on it :)
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Your last bit about the grace and mercy won’t go down too well here! It’s a bit like saying “Jesus was just a man, who died!” Or “God is a figment of your imagination” at your local baptist church!
In Judas
Alchemist
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“Because Christ has shown me so much love I cant help but love all of you.”….Soo….if Christ hadn’t been there….you wouldn’t love us like you do now? Interesting…anyway, I’m glad you love us, because that means you’ve thought it out and realized we’re intelligent people living lives that we’re happy with.
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I’m sad to say I can’t tell you I ‘love you’ back. After all, I don’t know you–you could be a mass-murderer for all I know. But as of now I can respect you. Don’t agree with you, but respect you at the very least. Hopefully that counts?
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Oh dear. Fanatic, first of all, thank you so much for your posts. That took guts. But, what I want to say to you is: stop putting yourself down! It is YOU that is spilling over with love, not something external! Take responsibility for your feelings and your unique place on the planet. You feel love for your fellow humans. How wonderful! I wish more people felt the same way.
Unfortunately, they don’t. People are killing other people. People are hating other people. I hope that you will translate this love of others into something transforming. Something real. Something that Christians can aspire to.
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Hello there. Don’t mind me folks I’m just entrechating through. My the FSM is a good dancer.
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@Fanatic,
You can nicely say that you love us, and maybe you do, but the whole “In Christ” thing is what gets me. In Christ? That in itself is condescending and presumptive. Obviously, you have no idea how offensive that is. I don’t care if you say that to others with whom you are actually communing “in Christ.” That makes sense. I can respect your beliefs, but I’m not “in Christ” with you. Not everyone believes in Christianity. I don’t care about Jesus. I don’t care that you care. I’m sick of the whole thing.
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As an aside, in a post a while back, I wrote a sentence about Jesus in the plural, and I said Jesusus. Wouldn’t Jesi be more grammatically correct?
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@Dread Wench L’TUAE
The love thing is true. And I hope to prove that not all Christians are crazy, and that some of us love the English language, and do the best we can not to butcher it, lol! Cheers^_^
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@Alchemist
I see where you’re coming from; I meant only to wish you well, but just for the record, I’m not a Baptist. I’m simply a Christian. I identify myself solely with Christ. I hate the fact that the Christian church is broken into so many denominations, as if there wasn’t enough working against it, Christians decide ‘we’re going to work against each other’. I may not agree with anything you guys say but the Christian Church could learn a lot from the church of the f.s.m. in the area of unity, and being on one accord. The very book by which I base my life says, “a kingdom divided against itself will fallâ€, I guess some of my ‘brothers’ and ‘sisters’ haven’t got that part yet. By the way, thank you for the official welcoming!
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@Iron gill Kidd
To be entirely honest, if it weren’t for Christ I wouldn’t be able to love anyone but my immediate family and myself. Three years ago, before I was a Christian, I was selfish, self-centered and self-serving. I wouldn’t have been capable of loving someone I didn’t even know, nor, or should I say especially, someone who hated me. But when He found me it’s like He gave me a heart transplant. Now I love without question, it’s a love without reason. But its far more than just a word, because I don’t know any of you, I can do nothing but use the word love. But for those around me I try and live love, doing not what is best for myself but what is best for those around me that they may be saved. So I regretfully have to say yes, without Christ I probably wouldn’t love as much as I do today. It’s a testimony of who I once was but a testament of what He can do for those who have faith.
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@Marc McOar
Thanks for the encouragement!
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@SaucyWench
I would just like to apologize to you and anyone else who found my closing offensive; my intentions were never to be condescending or presumptuous. SaucyWench you’re absolutely right, my “In Christ” closing was inappropriate and entirely out of context; the whole “In Christ” thing is more appropriate were I addressing those who share my beliefs, i.e. those who are truly “In Christ” with me. Again, my intentions were not that of offense, nor to thrust anything I believe upon anyone else. I did it mostly out of habit, and living a life where all of my trust is placed there “In Christ”, no matter how foolish that may sound to some. It doesn’t change anything else that I said, about the love and about the prayer. Still no offense is intended; love- being a positive emotion towards another human being (regardless the source) and as far as the prayer, even if no one believes in whom I pray to, I hope no one is offended by me wishing you well and hoping for your well being. I hope you can accept my apology.
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“doing not what is best for myself but what is best for those around me that they may be saved.”
So you think non-believers need to be saved? I don’t hold the same belief! I don’t feel I need to be saved and so……???
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In fact, I consider it an insult for someone to suggest that their belief says I need to be saved, simply because I don’t share the same belief. (appologies to others if this has already been said…I hadn’t time to read up the thread)
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Fanatic, I don’t believe in God and I base my life on a lot of other things. I dont need something else outside of me to make me care for my fellow human beings.
But I really appreciate the fact that you are polite. In my personal world that counts for a lot.
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politeness does indeed count for a lot, of course it doesn’t make anything true…
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“To be entirely honest, if it weren’t for Christ I wouldn’t be able to love anyone but my immediate family and myself. Three years ago, before I was a Christian, I was selfish, self-centered and self-serving. I wouldn’t have been capable of loving someone I didn’t even know”
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whilst i am certainly pleased you are a nicer human being, all this shows was that your character needed working on. how much moral is a person that has no requirement for the cosmic threat of punishment if they’re not nice? i personally am ambivolent towards most of the species, i find them irritating at best. maybe this is my failing as i’m not gregarious, should it condemn me to an eternity of punishment? harsh i feel. i help if i see a need for it, i don’t interfere. the problem is although i am sincere that we are born with equal rights, many chose to misuse them and i think that there should be consequences for that misuse.
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Before anyone puts it, i don’t needs praying for, or saving- i’m not drowning…
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@Fanatic,
Of course your apology is accepted. I do believe in the power of positive thought, and wishing goodwill towards faceless others, as long as the goodwill is generic and not predicated on someone finding your particular set of beliefs palatable, is a powerful spiritual practice. I’m not sure what it actually does for the one being wished for, but I know it helps the well-wisher. I once had to think thoughts of loving-kindness towards someone whom has caused much pain and sadness in my life. It took me months to do it, and I only did it once, but I was freed from this woman’s grip over me just a little. By the way this woman, my ex-husband’s now ex-wife, claims to be a Christian, yet she is psychologically twisted and seems to derive pleasure from abusing others. I know that it is not Christianity’s fault that she is like she is, yet in my mind the fact that she claims loudly to be so very close to Christ while having been abusive to my children makes her and her religion all the more unattractive. If I sound full of hate for this woman, then the work I’ve put into recovering from my association from her has paid off. At least I can talk about it now. As far as I’m concerned, Christ can have her.
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RAmen SaucyWench
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Thanks Jon. I feel the need to add that I had already been well down my own spiritual path before I met my ex’s ex. She didn’t turn me away from Christianity. I was already very far away from it when she came into the picture.
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Saucy, just wanted to wish you well. I wish I was near you, I’d give you a nice big hug. So instead I’ll just send you a Zen Hug: the hug you would get, if we were near you and could give them, but we aren’t and we cant. (I hope that made sense?).
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A zen hug? hmm.. what is the sound of one person hugging?
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but RAmen Saucy, you’re a better person than me.
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@Fanatic
Good to see someone who isn’t damning us to hell. You are the kind of person who is an asset to your religion. We are all very grateful for your politeness, as has been meticulousely stated in many posts.
However, I am strongly opposed to what fundamentalism seems to stand for. I believe that the mind is one’s last safe-haven, and that forcing someone to adopt your beliefs is a crime of the highest order. I wouldn’t really care about what they believed as long as they stopped trying to force it on innocents. Schools are the place to learn facts, not theology.
Yet again, thank you for your kindness. The world needs it.
RAmen
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@ SaucyWench, Best wishes Saucy.
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@ nic, Welcome back nic.
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@Fanatic- I have to say I do respect you quite a lot now, even if I don’t agree with you on many things. I also think it was just a bit of a turn around you needed, if jesus wasn’t with you now you’d probably be just as nice. Also *embarrassed* I don’t always use the english language perfectly, and I detest anything past common sense grammer, but it does make me mad when people deliberatly send some of this stuff without even bothering to correct it. It’s like they enjoy looking stupid, I swear.
@Saucy Wench- Cyberspace hug! (>^_^
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Thanks all. Every now and then I have to let some of that out. Zen hugs are great, by the way. Now I can go back to joking about oars for a while.
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@fanatic
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!! You are an example to other christians. You shou;d become a minister.
@ Saucy Wrench
When someone hurts you that much, you can never really forgive them. You are doing really well!
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