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An elaborate spoof on Intelligent Design, The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is neither too elaborate nor too spoofy to succeed in nailing the fallacies of ID. It's even wackier than Jonathan Swift's suggestion that the Irish eat their children as a way to keep them from being a burden, and it may offend just as many people, but Henderson, described elsewhere as a 25-year-old "out-of-work physics major," puts satire to the same serious use that Swift did. Oh, yes, it is very funny. -- Scientific American
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I think it was the Jim Jones song that did it!
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Alchemist Feb 2nd, 2007 at 6:23 pm
Dread Wench. It’s called consultant. I can’t fire myself! Although I’ve considered it. Sometimes you’re run off you’re arse. Mostly I can work from home with my trusty laptop. That said you won’t be seeing much of me from next Monday. Big, nasty job! Mesothelioma thing. Not nice!
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Back to serious, I never really know when I’ll be free.
I work from home too.
But sometimes, like last week, I was on local most of the week, I just don’t know, from day to day.
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oooh Bill, them be number of beers, not jokes :)
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Number 11?? Good FSM! You’re going to have a hangover tomorrow, trust me! I’m on #3.
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bill tomlinson Feb 2nd, 2007 at 6:38 pm
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Gotta ask. You guys got your jokes numbered? I did #12 once but no body laughed.
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Haha, no, that’s the # of beers I’ve had today… make that #12
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Oh crap! hahaha
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Yes, I am self-employed, too. But, I try to at least work for the extravagant fees that I charge. ;-)
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Marc McOar Feb 2nd, 2007 at 6:43 pm
Yes, I am self-employed, too. But, I try to at least work for the extravagant fees that I charge. ;-)
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Oh Marc, to be young and conscientious again.
I do miss those days! heh heh
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Lolli. I’m going to be in hotels for a while, probably a week, but like you said, who knows! People think it’s a great life “wow, you get to stay in hotels for free! You see all of the country? That must be fantastic!”
All you see is the room. Hotel rooms all look the same.
Add to that the fact that your boss is a complete wanker!
It’s good, but it’s no easy option!
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Bill, It’s been a while since I visited this thread. I work 12 hour shifts thurs-sat and every other wed. I also have an 18 month old son and a 6 month old daughter. So I do a lot of recreation on the other days and very little on the work days. As a result I missed some of your earlier posts. In one of you mentioned that you thought that you might post too much and that it may be annoying. Had I been looking when you did that I would have replied instantly i and loudly (all caps). I refresh this window on my mac and hope to see new posts from you each time. I enjoy your posts and think that the conversation gains a lot from your participation.
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I agree that mac is the way to go. I got the macpro notebook in November and I love it. I’ll never go back to winders.
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I am an arrogant SOB myself. I study a lot (many subjects). I do so on my own and for no reason other than to know more (I know I know. What a dork!). What I know, I know. I will tell people so and do it adamantly. My mind is always open to new evidence and changing circumstances. My opinions change accordingly. I am, however, engaged in deep thought more of the time than most of the people that I speak to daily. (That is not my opinion. It’s my observation.) I am not afraid to say it and I am not afraid to be confident. It’s not out of some extra special love for myself. It’s because correct is correct and everything else is garbage. I will defend that which I believe is correct based on evidence and careful thought. Some people don’t like me for that. Some love me for it. I don’t care who is which. That’s who I am.
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O.K. I’m looking at http://bibleforums.org I’d like to go undercover. I want to tell them about the “evil” of this site, I think. Admit it, we need the stimulus. Is that the best site for getting some fundies? I can ‘hail jesus’ with the best of them. Without the fundies, this site would die, wouldn’t it? Or am I wrong? At the same time that I type this I hope they don’t read this and wise up. We need them like they need us. A match made in ‘heaven’?
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Well Bill. That’s another who has stood up and shouted for you to stay!
Got the message yet :)
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Alchemist Feb 2nd, 2007 at 6:48 pm
Lolli. I’m going to be in hotels for a while, probably a week, but like you said, who knows! People think it’s a great life “wow, you get to stay in hotels for free! You see all of the country? That must be fantastic!â€
All you see is the room. Hotel rooms all look the same.
Add to that the fact that your boss is a complete wanker!
It’s good, but it’s no easy option!
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Ramen Alchemist, Ramen.
As we’ve discussed, if it were only as glorious as they tell us it is.
Ramen
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Whoo. Just posted a prayer request on that site a few hours ago!
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“I love your Christ. It’s your christians that I don’t like. They are so unlike your Christ.” -Ghandi
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oops, no I didn’t! Wrong site. Will do now though! At least I don’t think I did, I’ve been a busy heathen today :)
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I hope that any fundie who does visit reads that Ghandi quote and is honest enough to really think about it.
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They are so filled with hate and think that this is somehow in keeping with the Christ character’s teachings in the new testament?
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@Mad Davy Read
Thanks for the encouragement. Confident is good, I believe. And as you know that is very different from certainty. We should take stands, that’s a way, a good way I think, of testing our position. You clearly know that confidence is different from certainty.
I had a student once who was a solopsist. His view was that he was the only person in the world. Everyone else was a figment. He admitted that it was mostly an assumption he was willing to test. He looked at the world in that way! What goes right? What goes wrong?
He told me a year or two later that, the test was successful. He could not maintain the solopsist view and still get the best from his experience. (That’s not the way he put it but the way I am paraphrasing it) I don’t know how costly it was to him, and I suspect not much, because it was mostly a game for him and he was too realistic to put it to any serious test. He abandoned solopsism.
But I admire the spirit
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@MadDavy
I love that Ghandi quote.
It’s sad really, but great!
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Who was it that said the key to science is to fail repeatedly until you succeed?
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I think that is correct. I would change the word fail though. “To not succeed in finding an answer is to succeed in eliminating one more item from the pool of possibilities.”
-Mad Davy Read 2/2/2007
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L’TUAE. Don’t forget the time zones btw. I’m not in the US or Canada :)
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Solipsism can be a hard thing to adhere to when you are being run over by a bus.
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Could be only a rumour, but I just heard that the English finally beat Australia in a game of cricket. Could this possibly be true? Do you think, maybe the Australians felt sorry for them and let them win?
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wow, i have been trying to catch up and just kinda gave up and read the most recent posts
I dont think we need fundies, sure they are fun and inspire some great debates, but its the same debate over and over again. The discussions that we create w/o the fundies are very interesting.
@Mad Davy Read
Thomas Edison said “Results? Why, man, I have gotten lots of results! If I find 10,000 ways something won’t work, I haven’t failed. I am not discouraged, because every wrong attempt discarded is often a step forward…. ”
well, the way its normally said is “i didnt fail 10,000 times, i found 10,000 ways that didnt work. I dont know if thats the quote you were looking for
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as to the fear the fundies will discover that we are baiting them, i doubt that they will read enough to notice
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Cricket! To be honest I’d given up on it! I’ve got Rugby head on now. Still, we won. Woohoo. Sorry, can’t really sound excited about it :(
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Is it still cricket season? I thought all of those cricket things are done now.
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If I sold everything that I own and purchased a sailboat and then spent the rest of my life sailing the high seas and handing out candy would that make me a fundie?
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It is an art to bait the fundies.
You must be a fundie, win their respect, then ease the FSM in.
Tell them about the few lost ones you’ve seen here, in this sea of heathens.
Explain you want to save us, then “snag” reel them in!
It’s an art form really.
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With science, I think what’s going on is this. You have an hypothesis. You test it. If results work according to prediction then the hypothesis is confirmed. (Not proven, but confirmed). You go from there. Build on it. If the prediction of the not confirmed, you go from there. Try something else. Either result is progress. Nothing counts as a failed experiment unless you designed it badly.
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@lolli
I can tell you are good at this. You get fundie steak every night!!
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I know I’m not being nice but how do you get into a thread on http://bibleforums.org
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Lolli. re. fishing. Was mine ok?
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Bill. I couldn’t get on either!
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Man, this christian site doesn’t like homosexuality. What do they do with 10% of the rams and the strap-on penguins?
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There should be some christian sites with threads, unless they are afraid of discussion? I’m still looking
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Yes, they’re afraid of discussion. They truly are.
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Alchemist Feb 2nd, 2007 at 8:04 pm
Lolli. re. fishing. Was mine ok?
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Alchemist, I lost track of it somewhere?
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@ Everybody… go here, you don’t have to join to post.
It’s a fundie orgy!
http://www.topix.net/forum/religion
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Let me get a sense of time and place. Where are you Alchemist, MadDavy,Lolli,mark, truebeliever? I’m in California 9 or 10 hrs from europe.
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Hi Bill. I be true GMT. It’s 0310 here now. Don’t have to get up in the morning!
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I’m Western NY, Bill, EST.
Alchemist is in Yorkshire, 8 hours ahead of you.
Not sure on the other two?
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Spooky, Spooky!
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Go to sleep alchemist. Tomorrow’s another day.
Cya guys.
Thanks
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east coast, 4 hrs ahead of you
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east coast, usa, 4 hrs ahead of you
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hahaha lolli, we be doing again!
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Arizona here.
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I’m from Ohio so I’ve been living in my past by a few hours for about 6 years now.
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@Bill “Go to sleep alchemist. Tomorrow’s another day.”
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Wish I could mate! Really. Sleep’s been elusive recently.
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Question, and be brutally honest, you have to be. Did my theory of ethics/morality make sense to anyone? This is an important thesis to me.
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Another question. Is there something that prevents me from logging on as Lolli or truebeliever or alchemist? I ask this for defensive purposes but also to know how I can trust who I’m talking to.
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