I had to write you and tell you about the event we had here at my university (East Carolina University) last night. We had a screening of the new hit documentary “Flock of Dodos: The Intelligent Design / Evolution Circus” by Harvard-trained biologist-turned-filmmaker Randy Olson. Afterwards, there was a panel discussion that included Randy Olson, and faculty from biology, anthropology, geology(UNCW), and religios studies. Obviously, I felt that it was my duty to show up in full pirate regalia and hand out some propaganda.
It went really great! Our 750 seat theater was packed to the hilt. I met many fellow pastafarians, and think I converted quite a few more. When I asked an FSM based question of the panel, it was met with numerous rounds of applause and laughter. Afterwards some of the panelists, students, and faculty all went out for a beer. I countinued my evangelizing at the bar, and think I made a few more converts. I have to say that it was a great day for FSM!
I am attaching photos of my costume and me handing out brochures. Theres a photo with Randy Olson, our moderator Dr. Joe Luczkovich, and myself. Finally, I am including a photo of a random drunk girl molesting our noodly creator in a less than holy manner (I think he actually enjoyed it!)
The film was really great and hilarious. I definitely think pastafarians will enjoy it! The trailer can be viewed here: http://www.flockofdodos.com/ and you can see if there will be a screening near you. There will be screenings all over the country in the next month for Darwin Day. I would definitely reccomend everyone try and make it out to a screening, and don’t forget your pirate regalia!
Thanks Again,
Nick Jones
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GiG. quite happy to talk, whats the email? why not talk here though…
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@Avatar of Reason
Nope, I was agreeing with your question pointed at GiG. IF it were a punishment you would have to be resurrected after death.
So
a) It is not a punishment, and the bible is wrong. Ergo, God is fallible. God no longer exists.
b) It is a punishment, and JC (not Johnny) died for our Sins, went to hell for our sins, and was resurrected to not sin again. Ergo, we need not fear hell JC has already cleared that one up for us.
c) Well, lets be creative people.
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is there a middle ground between heck and purgatory? or do i go straight to hell?
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“Ted Haggard Jan 27th, 2007 at 7:10 pm
is there a middle ground between heck and purgatory? ”
Whahahahahahaha!
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@GoD is Good- No. You talk here. Is this too hard to understand?
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@Nick – I’ve e-mail Jemma Hooper at the BHA about the Darwin Day lecture. I’ll let you know when I get a reply.
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@God is Good:
I’m still waiting for that answer. If Christianity has answers, I wan’t to hear them. If you won’t provide any, or at least an explanation for you unwillingness to answer on this forum, I will have to assume that you can’t answer, and that you are too cowardly to admit that you are wrong. If you sincerely believe that I need saving, and that saving us is so important, why won’t you answer a simple question?
-Avatar of Reason
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Because Avatar, their is no answer. It’s an unanswerable question to those who deal with logic. Some believe things without logic or facts.
Philosophers have been trying to find out that question you asked since Socrates. Their is no clear answer, their is only a belief, or a fragment of truth like that of a shattered mirror that reflects our humanity. Their are end statement though. Something like “god works in mysterious ways” or something to that effect.
The bible is written so it can be argued from any view. The fact the bible contradicts itself as black and white or by being two ends of the same strand, oddly doesn’t seem to invalidate the bible, but makes it stronger. A pasture can quote something from the bible and twist it to become anything, for he is not limited to any spectrum or bounds. The statements in the bible blur to a nice soft gray. It can be used as a point of reference to justify and honorable or despicable act as an action that serves god. This makes it seem like it has all the answers even though they are extreme contradictions at times. The bible also uses some kind of fallacious logic loop and the shaving off loose ends through mild brainwashing to tie up the opposing ethical contradictions so from the inside it seems like strait line but from the outside its just a loop that goes nowhere.
Once someone feels something, it’s very hard to unfeel it, no matter is contradiction to the real world. I hope I have explained it well enuff, at times I feel the need to over explain, and other times, people are lost by my words, soo good luck understanding me.
Someone said something early that really rang with truth. The closet we can get to god is nature. Eh call me a romantic.
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Wrong Pig
George W. Bush and his driver were cruising along a country road one night when all of a sudden they hit a pig, killing it instantly. Dubya told his driver to go up to the farm house and explain to the owners what had happened.
About 1 hour later George sees his driver staggering back to the car with a bottle of wine in one hand, a cigar in the other and his clothes all ripped and torn.
“What happened to you?”, asked Dubya.
“Well, the Farmer gave me the wine, his wife gave me the Cigar and his 19 year old daughter made mad passionate love to me,” said the driver.
“My God, what did you tell them?”, asks Bush.
The driver replies, “I’m George W. Bush’s driver, and I just killed the pig.”
RAmen
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@God is Good: why do you refuse to speak to us here? unlike certain faith-based website, we enjoy and encourage fair debate.
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Here check the first posting on this page, you should like it:-
http://www.venganza.org/category/hate-mail/
It sums a lot up. A conciseness only a scientist could have.
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@Romantic, erm, Rowen.
Good speech, very well made. There is no more tranquil place then the forest IMAO.
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Q. “What is truth and what is God?”
The following is the answer from an episode of Babylon 5, I thought it was quite an interesting point.
“If I take a lamp and shine it toward the wall, a bright spot will appear on the wall. The lamp is our search for truth… for understanding. Too often, we assume that the light on the wall is God, but the light is not the goal of the search, it is the result of the search. The more intense the search, the brighter the light on the wall. The brighter the light on the wall, the greater the sense of revelation upon seeing it. Similarly, someone who does not search – who does not bring a lantern – sees nothing. What we perceive as God is the by-product of our search for God. It may simply be an appreciation of the light… pure and unblemished… not understanding that it comes from us. Sometimes we stand in front of the light and assume that we are the center of the universe – God looks astonishingly like we do – or we turn to look at our shadow and assume that all is darkness. If we allow ourselves to get in the way, we defeat the purpose, which is to use the light of our search to illuminate the wall in all its beauty and in all its flaws; and in so doing, better understand the world around us.” – G’Kar, B5
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Discuss.
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you know, there’s a fair bit of worthwhile philosophy in B 5, if you know where to look. it was always a cool sci-fi series, if nothing else.
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OMFSM! I remember that exact episode! G’Kar seriously knew what he was talking about. So many people get in front of the light, or obsess over the fact that the light is there, that they don’t even really look at the beam or what the light illuminates.
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I would say G’kar was pritty darn close to something of truth most of the time. I also love Babylon 5. I think i liked it alot because it was continues and had good writing. somethings the cg was sub par, but everything else was wonderful. Did Xcaliber ever get finished or was the script ever released? what happens to earth dammit!!!
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@Rowen:
I was trying to provoke God is Good into a more open debate. I didn’t honestly expect him to be able to provide a satisfactory answer. I just wanted to exchange arguments with the fundie, and see if I could use his own holy book to start the debate going. The bible is a fundie’s weapon of choice, and it’s always fun to impale people on their own swords. Indeed, my question wasn’t really a question in a sense. I was pretty sure my logic checked out.
@God is Good:
If you are too scared to debate me in the sanctuary of the Internet’s anonymity, it’s pretty pathetic. Isn’t defending your god worth a few minutes of your time? If not, why did you post here in the first place, and if so, why haven’t you found the courage within your heart to continue? All you have done on this website is malign your own god in a sense. How can we be expected to believe that the Holy Spirit empowers the followers of Jesus if it can’t even empower you to face your fear of typing out an argument? How can we be expected to believe that your god can inspire Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, and Paul to write holy books of absolute truth if he can’t even inspire you to come up with one argument to trip me up? You already think I’m wrong to show up on this website in the first place, it’s not that hard to state why. Debate me, or you are failing your god.
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Avatar, I guess my statement is was also towards Gig. I did not mean to imply anything about you, but more about why Gig wont respond. oh i liked your line about “impale people on their own swords” as that is the types of arguments I like to make. your argument is pritty sound, and theirs not much one can do too disprove you, but at best it might be a stalemate. But really, if you argue from the high ground (Christian), and you are forced into a stalemate, well its more like a loss.
their is a slim chance gig may respond, but I don’t think it will be very compelling, though I hope he/she can surprise us. *hit* thats your cue Gig.
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Avatar, good efforts, and well pplayed but i think God is Good has abandoned his meagre attempts at religion. i think we can chalk that as another win for CoFSM.
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Of course if you are reading this GiG, then we’re still happy to discuss any points, just no more crap about “praying for you”, i don’t want you to, it’s offensive and a waste of you’re time. if you feel you must do something on my behalf, try drinking heavily or getting laid… or even reading a book…
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@God is Good:
Although I have admitted that I intend to debate you, I would like to state that I still mean what I said before about sincerely wanting to hear your answer. I am not the type of person who debates exclusively in the hopes of winning. I also debate because if my opponent can convince me of their perspectives, I will have gained wisdom. I want to learn about Christianity and the Christian perspective on the world. I did not mean to condescend, and I fear that if you read my earlier posts in that tone you will already think me an arrogant fool. No Christian has yet convinced me to adopt their perspective, but you might be the first and I like to keep an open mind.
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Know that your argument will not fall on deaf ears. At least one person will be listening. Many of us at this website love science, and the scientific method is about disproving falsehoods. If you can show us that our secular/pastafarian views on the world are truly flawed, many of us will probably change to a theory that works in light of any new evidence you may possess. That is the scientific way, after all. Please answer us, God is Good. Stand up for your theory.
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If my atempted disproof of Hell has flaws, I want to know about them, that way I can renounce it in the hopes of being that much closer to the truth.
-Avatar of Reason
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Ahoy.
whats a pirate without foes to to fight? where have all the hatemailers gone? be it good honest open debate, or some down and dirty abuse, i miss the challenge. Are we really so effective they’ve all run and hid?
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i’ve tried arguing with myself and i keep losing, i think i need someone more my level…
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HAHAHA SPIDER SCETTI HAHAHA FAGOO
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Mike? is that you? i can’t think of anyone else you uses the term “FAGOO”.
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so do you have anything useful to contribute, or are you just going to stand around and swear at us like the homeless, mindless, drooling impotent moron that we all know you are?
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may you be touched by his noodley appendage.
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Let’s see…
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Using Jingles patented F**kwit Finder (TM)
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Capitalized handle; Check.
Overuse of capslock; Check.
Alternating upper/lower case; Negative.
Incorrect grammar; Check.
Incorrect spelling; Check.
Threats of burning in hell, divine vengeance, etc; Negative.
Lowbrow insults; Check.
Lowbrow insults of our god; Half check.
Accusations of homosexuality; Check.
Threats of rape, physical violence, oars, etc; Negative.
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PATICK scores a 6.5 out of ten.
Verdict; Unable to make the grade as a full blown f**kwit, the test subject is instead found to be a dimwit. Studies suggest he will be inept at dealing with civilised society, delicate situations, differing viewpoints, and cutlery.
While there is a significant possibility of this being trolling by someone actually capable of spelling, they are still a nitwit at the least.
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@Jingles
(deep and hearty laugh)
Think you could post a guidesheet on how to use the F**kwit Finder? I SO need one of those…
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Yes, and a score-card please.
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PATICK, come be honest thats Mike isn’t it. How’s your backside from all that God loving you were doing? did the advice about lubricant help? hope it was good for you dude. nice to see someone find their special someone – must have been “hard” (snigger) to come put to yourself…
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It’s quite simple to use, really. You just browse through their comments, and check off things on the list. For example, he cannot even spell faggot, so he gets a check in the spelling category. Since he mangled our lords name without actually attacking him, he gets a half check.
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As for scoring, well, its a fairly loose guide. If borderline, class as appropriate. Otherwise;
0-2: A Wit; Intelligent, reasonable, polite and respectable. High likelihood of a reasoned belief system, and serves as a credit to the human race.
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2-4: A Wit in a Fit; While they may normally be a decent poster, they are either irritated, excited, or otherwise unfocused, allowing slightly more than the occasional slip to occur.
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4-6: A Nitwit; Likely seeking attention, may not necessarily mean to irritate, but is not aware of proper forum etiquette, and so comes across badly. With patient councilling, and the occasional application of a large blunt object, subject may be cured.
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6-7: Dimwit; Not overly violent or aggressive, but is nevertheless a troll, an inbred hillbilly, or an above average-intelligence fundamentalist. They are on the absolue edge of redeemability. With extreme electroshock, elocation & deportment lessons, and substantial severe blunt-force trauma, could be upgraded to a nitwit.
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7-8: A Twit; Annoying, loud, cannot use even simple words… what we have here is the Twit. Beyond redemption, these sorry excuses for humanity can be found primarily in years 7-9 of primary/secondary education, and behind the pulpit in Pentecostal churches. Avoid if possible. If unavoidable, bring a big stick. Thankfully, due to short attention spans, these specimens will generally depart after a single post.
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8-9: The Shit; Sets out from the off to be an absolute monkey scrotum. Unable to take a hint, this is the sort of poster who will haunt a thread for as long as their attention span holds. While not a long term poster, they can clog a thread for up to an hour in severe cases. If encountered virtually, non-engagement is advised. If encountered physically, use a shotgun.
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9-9.5: Mimic; what we have here is the stereotype troll. At first glance, will appear a complete fuckwit, however, closer inspection will reveal telltale hints that this is actually an educated poster (Nitwit or better) imitating the lower-order troll lifeform. Should they get annoying, utilising their real name will likely end the display.
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10: The granddaddy of them all, the complet and utter Fuckwit; Few and far between, these few are talked about with hushed voices. Going down in forum legend, their names will be forever uttered as a byword for all things troll. Easily capable of devouring a website for weeks on end, any challenge makes them stronger, any attention makes them bolder. Be warned, for their sign is L337, their marker is spam. If encountered in multiple numbers, can murder a thread beyond salvage. This is the anti-Cheesus. Run while you still can.
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Nice work jingles. I may add this work to the deciples archives
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Brilliant, Jingles!
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fantastic work there, Jingles.
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That’s one for the book! ;)
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Bastard, took the lime light off me ;)
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Jingles–OMFSM. You rule.
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@Jingles
(Deeper and heartier laugh, sound of pasta spraying from mouth)
Brilliant. Simply brilliant.
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@Jingles
Yesssss! And now for a record book or something, and some volunteers to scan the entire venganza site!
RAmen to you Pirates!
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@Jingles: That was very funny. Thanks! I really loved “if encountered physically, use a shotgun.”
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Meh, more updates on the screening event, I picked up a school newspaper someone had left on the bus, and in the Letter to the Editor section, someone had written in complaining about the coverage of the event. Apparently, the original article they printed about it (which I missed) said that Olsen presented ID as a replacement theory to Darwin’s theory of evolution. The person/people writing the letter in were in a tiff over that statement (as well as the statement that said evolution and natural selection were the “random mutation of cells”), with good reason. When I finally got to the bottom of the letter, I saw it was signed by 3 associate professors of biology, as well as the chair of anthropology for the school; at least 2 of the names I distinctly remember as being members of the discussion panel that took a direct part in the screening event, and I’m pretty sure at least one more of the names were on the panel, so it’s not just some random nut writing in. :-D
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Just thought I’d share that the movie was misrepresented and quickly fixed.
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Greetings,
This is late in the post and will most likely not be read, but I saw Nick at the screening of “A Flock of Dodos” at the Egyptian Theatre in Los Angeles on Feb 6. 2007.
I just wanted confirm the fact that he is an excellent missionary to help bring the Truth® to the many people who came to see the movie.
Many pictures were taken and I am sure when Nick gets back home, they will be added.
The brochures he handed-out were gladly accepted and read. I dare the $cientologists who were harassing tourists next to the event to make the same claim! And even after people fork over all of their wealth to $cientology, they have no hope of a stripper factory or beer volcanoes. Suckers.
Keep up the good work Nick
RAmen
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@Tequilatarian
Nice to see the missionary work is going so well. Thanks for posting.
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Hi All! I have returned from my missionary trip to Hollywood! It was great! We even made it out to Vegas for a couple of days. I’ve sent Bobby some pics, but who knows when he’ll get around to reading my email. In the mean time I’ve created a Flickr page where I’ve uploaded some of the photos of the trip! Check em out!
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/26953938@N00/?saved=1
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I’m still uploading more pics, but its taking forever, so keep checking it.
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I believe in my heart that the teapot orbiting the earth comes from the table of his noodlyness. But if pressed will deny it out of fear.
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@Neal Matin
Neeeeeeigh Neal Matin – stand fearlessly by your convictions. Challange any who would challage you to prove otherwise or purchase beer for you if they cannot.
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Hello
hoodia patch
hoodia patch
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Hi gang,
I caught the opening night of the show here in Seattle. My gang was a total of 6 Pastafarians. I feel like I failed you, because I forgot my pirate clothes. His Royal Noodlish will shame me in some way. Keep up the real word!
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