Falwell’s Flub: Jerry-Rigged Policy Opens Door For Pagan Proselytizing In Virginia Public School
A group of Pagans in Albemarle County, Va., was recently given permission to advertise their multi-cultural holiday program to public school children – and they have the Rev. Jerry Falwell to thank for it.
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Captain Noodulous Silicate TBHNA -
Jan 3rd, 2007
Nikky (when did you change your name from Nikkiee and why?) relax… relax.. count to 10 and relax…
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Peter Popoff -
Jan 3rd, 2007
Captain Noodulous Silicate TBHNA Jan 3rd, 2007 at 4:57 pm
Nikky (when did you change your name from Nikkiee and why?) relax… relax.. count to 10 and relax…
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When it got to hard for her to spell it! hahahahaha.
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Actually, if I recall correctly, someone else kept misspelling it, and that’s why she changed. Is that right Nikkiee?
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Captain Noodulous Silicate TBHNA -
Jan 3rd, 2007
I knew her when she was dead….
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Captain Noodulous Silicate TBHNA -
Jan 3rd, 2007
@L’TUAE_42 Jan 3rd, 2007 at 4:43 pm: Pornography Laden Phrases.
Please provide references and relevant links.
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Alchemist -
Jan 3rd, 2007
“Actually, if I recall correctly, someone else kept misspelling it, and that’s why she changed. Is that right Nikkiee?”
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Not my fault I’ve got cheese for a brain
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Wench Nikky -
Jan 3rd, 2007
@Peter Popoff
hahahaha
If I remember correctly you and Alchemist were complaining that you couldn’t spell
it….so nurr :P
@Captain Noodulous Silicate TBHNA
“No apparent, perceived or claimed evidence in any field, including history and chronology, can be valid if it contradicts the Scriptural record.
- Answers in Genesis’ Statement of Faith”
Excellent Captain, I’ve got just the forum to paste that quote too.
“Please provide references and relevant links.”
Yeah come on L’TUAE_42. Cough up
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Jan 3rd, 2007
@Alchemist Jan 3rd, 2007 at 5:27 pm
“Actually, if I recall correctly, someone else kept misspelling it,”
You practically “begged” me to change the spelling Alchemist……….hahahahaha
It’s OK I did have trouble with the spelling myself…..always seemed like a hell of a lot more “e” in there than there was.
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Peter Popoff -
Jan 3rd, 2007
Alchemist, hey, please stop sending me those love letter emails!
My wife is still pissed that I call out… Wench Nikkiee…
In the middle of the night, I don’t think she’ll stand for to much more!
Ramen
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Alchemist -
Jan 3rd, 2007
Nikkiiieeeee – I still get it wrong :) It’s like driving – left or right – what the hell, the middle will do.
Oh, I do not beg. Ever – well, not usually but that’s just a bloke thing (snigger).
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Wench Nikky -
Jan 3rd, 2007
@Captain Noodulous Silicate TBHNA
“No apparent, perceived or claimed evidence in any field, including history and chronology, can be valid if it contradicts the Scriptural record.
- Answers in Genesis’ Statement of Faith”
Is there a link for that per chance, Captain
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Jan 3rd, 2007
Aw Peter, what can I say. Our love was doomed from the start. A transatlantic love affair destined for failure. We can still take the piss though?
The poor little fellow doesn’t know how to play, does he (TLM)?
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Alchemist -
Jan 3rd, 2007
Sorry folks – have to hit the sack now – nasty w word the past two days has left me knackered.
Take care
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Peter Popoff -
Jan 3rd, 2007
I want to say, to all here. That I do appreciate this website, and the sanity displayed by most.
I don’t know why I do it, but I go to christian forums and think I can make a difference.
Foolish at best, but it’s nice to be able to come here, and feel somewhat sane.
Even with the oars and the funni boi, you folks pull me through! haha
thanks!
Ramen
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Jan 3rd, 2007
RAmen Peter
BTW If you and Alchemist are going to be serious about your love, you will have to learn to watch/love the cricket.
That way you can both have a good cry together. A couple that cries together stays together. :P I’m sure Alchemist would appreciate it.
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Peter Popoff -
Jan 3rd, 2007
I couldn’t make this crap up, if I wanted too…
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How to be a good Christian fountain…
Inflate your cheeks, and build up some pressure in your mouth. Pinch your nose if you need to.- With your cheeks inflated, try breathing in and out through your nose.- Here’s one to try at home, in the shower, or over the sink. Get a mouthful of water. While breathing through your nose normally, force a steady stream of water out through your lips. The key is to get a steady stream of water forced out by your cheek muscles, while breathing through your nose. Once your muscles have learned this “contradictory†set of actions.- Now, using a straw and a glass of water about 1/3 full, practice blowing bubbles with cheek pressure, and alternating the source of air, first lungs, then cheeks. Sniff air in while using your cheeks to create a steady stream of bubbles. In this exercise, the purpose is to make the switch between lung and cheek power, and keeping the bubbles coming steadily.
What’s this? Peter Popoff and Alchemist are secretly in love? When did this happen!? I feel so out of the loop. (But congrats anyway to the ‘happy couple’ XD)
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Re-Oared Marc -
Jan 3rd, 2007
Nikky, this has been reported in the news for a while — the US armed forces are a wing of the evangelical church. If the recruits don’t bow down to their superiors’ Christian beliefs then they are ostracized, and worse.
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Pixel Pete -
Jan 3rd, 2007
Down with the military!
Down with the opressive primarily Christian government!
Kill the Royalists!
KILL THE ROYALISTS!!!
Then again, Democracy can be preserved, but not without it’s drawbacks:
1. If we do let Democracy live, then the Christians will continue opressing us
2. They could just take power again
3. The military would continue being run by these nazis
SO, an alternative:
Rather than waiting, let’s pack our fleece jackets and go to Hell!
Or Mongolia, either way, freedom awaits gents!
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Peter Popoff -
Jan 3rd, 2007
Wench Nikky Jan 3rd, 2007 at 7:37 pm
I think a lot more Americans have to take a stand. The news just keeps getting worse.
Other governments need to be pressured not to let this insidious disease into their own countries as well. The fight has only just begun. http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20061231_chris_hedges_americas_holy_warriors/
RAmen
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Good link Nikkiee, The forum is lopsided though, all the posts are logical, and sensible.
We both know that doesn’t happen, it was a good read though.
REamen
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Wench Nikky -
Jan 3rd, 2007
Yeah, it is over the top Peter. Thing is, it is the stuff of dreams of the evangelical fundamentalists. You’ve only got to go to a few of the more serious science forums to see how insidiously hard these YEC?IDiots are fighting to infiltrate their world view into society. Their agenda of redefining society into a biblical framework through education and politics is rarely, even thinly, veiled. Even when they are arguing with you, that there is no scientific evidence for evolution and any presented is a global conspiracy of scientists. Not just biologists ect who subscribe to evolution either. All fields of science are in on this conspiracy. These people are crazy and do strive hard to recruit anyone in power they can.
We’re lucky in OZ, but Bush’s tendencies and it’s global influence them keeps me, just a a little alert. The possible scenarios portrayed in that article are extreme, however. Reguardless of the over the top nature of the article, I have no doubt how dangerous these people could be with influence/power in the right places.
The evangelicals certainly work their butts off to get the numbers of supporters.
No apparent, perceived or claimed evidence in any field, including history and chronology, can be valid if it contradicts the Scriptural record.
- Answers in Genesis’ Statement of Faith
Well, somuch for their claims to be scientific! This simply rules out every evidence except that which fits their conclusion.
I also wonder which scripture exactly they mean? Probably not that bible where the made that little mistake of leaving out NOT in “thou shalt not commit adultery” ?
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Wench Nikky -
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@gill Jan 3rd, 2007 at 7:45 pm
“What’s this? Peter Popoff and Alchemist are secretly in love? When did this happen!? I feel so out of the loop. (But congrats anyway to the ‘happy couple’ XD)”
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It’s OK gill, we all kinda missed it, but you can’t fool TLM. No siree, he was onto it right away, he was. You just can’t put anything past one blessed with incredibly high interlect intelligence and awareness such as his.
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Beastly Rich -
Jan 4th, 2007
It’s andy mcIntoshs’ scientific and rational critique of modern geology that persuaded me.
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“Furthermore the science of a worldwide Flood is completely consistent with the fossil record. Right through the fossil record are fossils of both extinct creatures and those like today, sometimes in the same strata. The fish found in the old red sandstone of Scotland were not so different to fish today. Some were exactly the same as those today. The sedimentary geology of Scotland and around the world bears testimony to the geological power not ‘of the vestiges of an antique past’ but of recent events 4,500 years ago. Indeed some strata can only be explained by catastrophic deposition. For instance the coal seams all over the world, in places miles thick, are formed from vegetation, but the high rank coal that is often found in these seams can only be explained by catastrophic deposition, since high rank coal needs oxygen exclusion of the vegetation that would otherwise only form a low grade peat. Other evidence of polystrate fossil trees running right across strata again indicate rapid deposition and burial – all consistent with a worldwide Flood and which we have no excuse not to believe in. The rocks all around us testify to this, and we do well to heed, for God states (2 Peter 3) that the same Word that brought in the ferocity of worldwide judgement at the flood, will usher in the last days when every knee shall bow before the Creator and Judge – none other than our Saviour in all His glory.”
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Source: The incompatibility of Biblical Christianity and Evolution, see also edited version in Evangelical Alliance’s Idea magazine, July/August 2005
Nikkiee,
What I find odd, is they don’t call themselves militia anymore.
Unless I just didn’t read it.
That is what they were originally called. Near where I live, they have a compound (they the michigan militia). That doesn’t really exsist, yet it houses something like 3,000 invisible, gun toting bible thumping militants. That are completly self supported, and somehow fly under the governments radar?
The compound has/hasn’t been there since about 1990. I don’t know what scares me more, the fact these camps are well established across the country? Or the fact that for the most part, they are invisible.
Heres a little insight… http://www.adl.org/learn/ext_us/Militia_M.asp?xpicked=4&item=19
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L’TUAE_42 Jan 1st, 2007 at 5:59 pm
on the serious side, I think that right now the situation in America is very bad, but i also think it goes in cycles. When my dad was a kid children would be laughed out of school for even bringing up religiuos discussions. It just wasn’t polite and didn’t happen. It will get better eventually.
Interestingly, you know the senator who just swore in? Some jacks were making a fuss over how he swore on the Koran. You’re not even supposed to swear on anything, most people just bring something important along with them, “happened†to be a bible mostly.If I ever get elected, I’m gonna make a stack of Lord of the Rings, Hitchhikers Guide, and Asimov books to swear on.^_^
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L’TUAE, this guy gets to use Thomas Jefferson’s Quran, for his swearing in…
Regardless of what this women says…
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‘Some critics have argued that only a Bible should be used for the swearing-in. Last month, Virginia Republican Rep. Virgil Goode warned that unless immigration is tightened, “many more Muslims” will be elected and follow Ellison’s lead.’
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The times, they are a chang’n.
@ TLM Jan 3rd, 2007 at 6:20 pm
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“…A couple that cries together stays together.”
Sniff, sniff. I detect an Australian accent in that post. Hmmm, overtones of Wench like character and a subtle hint of formalin :)
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Jan 4th, 2007
“What’s this? Peter Popoff and Alchemist are secretly in love? When did this happen!? I feel so out of the loop. (But congrats anyway to the ‘happy couple’ XD)â€
Yeah, I totally missed that.
you guys wanted references? let me go see if I can get on the school webpage from here. I’ll be back. But ya know, it only blocks it when you bring up any page cept the main.So of course people want to know more about it and access from home.
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Jan 4th, 2007
okay, you can get to to homepage, but you can’t get to other websites FROM the homepage. So it’s useless if you want to see how it blocks the side pages. I did find out our network just uses a counter. If a page has over a predtermined number of “inapropriate” words, it gets blocked. I’m sure it’s from all the hate mail we get.
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Jan 4th, 2007
Alchemist Jan 4th, 2007 at 4:18 pm
@ TLM Jan 3rd, 2007 at 6:20 pm
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“…A couple that cries together stays together.â€
Sniff, sniff. I detect an Australian accent in that post. Hmmm, overtones of Wench like character and a subtle hint of formalin :)
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I don’t know about you, Alchemist.
But I am flattered that our little trist was noticed!
I thought we were doing a good job of keeping it a secret too!
I’m blushing… … … …
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Jan 4th, 2007
@Alchemist Jan 4th, 2007 at 4:18 pm
@ TLM Jan 3rd, 2007 at 6:20 pm
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“…A couple that cries together stays together.â€
Sniff, sniff. I detect an Australian accent in that post. Hmmm, overtones of Wench like character and a subtle hint of formalin :)
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Hahahahahaha
It’s that bloody identity crisis again. hahahaha
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Jan 4th, 2007
@Peter Popoff Jan 4th, 2007 at 12:16 pm
“That is what they were originally called. Near where I live, they have a compound (they the michigan militia). That doesn’t really exsist, yet it houses something like 3,000 invisible, gun toting bible thumping militants. That are completly self supported, and somehow fly under the governments radar?”
@Peter Popoff Jan 4th, 2007 at 3:49 pm
“If I ever get elected, I’m gonna make a stack of Lord of the Rings, Hitchhikers Guide, and Asimov books to swear on.^_^”
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Peter Popoff!!! For shame Peter!
No GoFSM. I’s start praying to His Noodleyness and repent. While His Noodleyness has no problem with shared faith, I think it is blaspheme to exclude His Gospel from your list.
May you be sentenced to the consumption of 2-3 Tequila Cakes!!!!
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Peter Popoff -
Jan 4th, 2007
Oh no, Nikkie.
I was quoting L’TUAE there. She said that, I would have to be sworn in on a deck of cards myself. Although, the GoFSM, is a possibility.
Ramen
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Commendatore Cappellini -
Jan 5th, 2007
I ask this to the gathered:
having lurked for a while and my conversion took place on Jan 1, 2007,
I now would like to know how best to spread the word at a long upcoming weekend in Vermont amongst friends from college (alas a while ago for the tassel turn).
Should I boldy go forth smiting about with sauceredness?
subtly turn the conversation towards pasta and pirates?
display my pirate fish and wait for queries?
or another way?.
Haveing been know to frequent the fointain of drafts and having come home with the
curse of the stipper (glitter!;)), what should I do?
Please note that I have the pirate fish on my car, and am bringing the large pirate fish flag to unfurl if conversion(s) take place.
Help.
Arrggghhhh and befurter mateys
RAmen
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Peter Popoff -
Jan 5th, 2007
There is a whole section here, with printable flyers and stuff to help you in your ministres, heres a link… http://www.venganza.org/materials/
good luck and,
Ramen
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Commendatore Cappellini -
Jan 5th, 2007
ah yes,
I was wonderin’ more in the manner in which it behooves one
to spread the word.
Sure the props are the means by which to inform
I was asking the way that was the preferred way to
bring the topic to the conversation
not wanting to be gauche but not fearing to be either
after all coming of age with Zappa/MoI and the Firesign Theater
I was hoping for insight in the devious paths that may have been recounted.
BTW: the liquid of choice at thesae gatherings is Zubrovka so maybe
the christmas decoration story from Poland may come in handy.
/\/\/\/\/\
RAise the glass and pRAaise his noodliness.
Also tonight we will dine with one who will slurp publicly in Hell’s Kitchen
and thereby be touched by his noodily appendage; so my ministry is progressing
FSMF::FFSM
RAmen
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Peter Popoff -
Jan 5th, 2007
Well, we are a scurvy bunch. I say, talk like a pirate, kiss the wenches.
Be forthright, and commanding! People respond to power! And will want to be like you!
And if that doesn’t pan out, at least you’ll have kissed some wenches! It’s win/win really!
Ramen
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Jan 5th, 2007
@Peter “…I don’t know about you, Alchemist.
But I am flattered that our little trist was noticed!
I thought we were doing a good job of keeping it a secret too!
I’m blushing… … … …”
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hahaha. I think Daffodil must be feeling a bit left out. He does seem to have become a little obsessed with us. I thought it was Nikky he had a thing for but now I’m not so sure.
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The ADL link’s a bit scary “…Anti-government and conspiracy-oriented in nature; prominent focus on firearms”. Sounds like quite a combination, paranoid nutters with a gun fetish.
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Peter Popoff -
Jan 5th, 2007
Alchemist Jan 5th, 2007 at 2:00 pm
The ADL link’s a bit scary “…Anti-government and conspiracy-oriented in nature; prominent focus on firearmsâ€. Sounds like quite a combination, paranoid nutters with a gun fetish.
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Yeah, they scare the hell out of me. I’ve seen two of their camps.
On the upshot though, they believe in your good lord jesus christ!
I’m sure the guns are just for shooting possem and stuff.
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Commendatore Cappellini -
Jan 5th, 2007
There is truth in what you say Peter.
Indeed the kissing wenches is a good thing]
goes well with the drinking the beer
and just for the grins later in the eve
I’ll try kissing the beer and drinking the wenches
wouldn’t want to deprive the gathering from having
legends to tell round the campfire.
BTW: what do you call mountain pirates?
remember I’ll be in the Green Mts of Vermont
Aye’m not afeared o’talking like a pirate
nor of the swagger, just curious as to whether there is
a historical reference
And so it came to pass not so long ago that a Highwayman and his one or two
skallywag companions came into the Green Mountains and laid about with noodles and ale with a splash of Zubrovka and ‘presso to bring the misinformed and uninformed and uniformed and such into the glow of his noodly appendage therby making that corner of the Green Mountains safe for strippers yet again and so did the volcano of beer arise and all was well.
Okay. that works for me
FSMF::FFSM
RAmen
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Peter Popoff -
Jan 5th, 2007
Commendatore Cappellini, Thats a way cool link! Cool songs and everything! You will be a good pirate, me thinks!
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Ya-Hip, My Hearties!
1819
From MOORE’S Tom Crib’s Memorial to Congress:—“Sung by Jack Holmes, the Coachman, at a late Masquerade in St Giles’s, in the character of Lord C—st—e—on … This song which was written for him by Mr. Gregson, etc.â€.
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I first was hired to peg a Hack
They call “The Erin†sometime back,
Where soon I learned to patter flash,
To curb the tits, and tip the lash—
Which pleased the Master of The Crown
So much, he had me up to town,
And gave me lots of quids a year,
To tool “The Constitutions†here.
So, ya-hip, hearties, here am I
That drive the Constitution Fly.
II
Some wonder how the Fly holds out,
So rotten ’tis, within, without;
So loaded too, through thick and thin,
And with such heavy creturs IN.
But, Lord, ’t will last our time—or if
The wheels should, now and then, get stiff,
Oil of Palm’s the thing that, flowing,
Sets the naves and felloes going.
So ya-hip, Hearties! etc.
III
Some wonder, too, the tits that pull
This rum concern along, so full,
Should never back or bolt, or kick
The load and driver to Old Nick.
But, never fear, the breed, though British,
Is now no longer game or skittish;
Except sometimes about their corn,
Tamer Houghnhums ne’er were born.
So ya-hip, Hearties, etc.
IV
And then so sociably we ride!—
While some have places, snug, inside,
Some hoping to be there anon.
Through many a dirty road hang on.
And when we reach a filthy spot
(Plenty of which there are, God wot),
You’d laugh to see with what an air
We take the spatter—each his share.
So ya-hip, Hearties! etc.
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Captain Noodulous Silicate TBHNA -
Jan 5th, 2007
An elaborate spoof on Intelligent Design, The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is neither too elaborate nor too spoofy to succeed in nailing the fallacies of ID. It's even wackier than Jonathan Swift's suggestion that the Irish eat their children as a way to keep them from being a burden, and it may offend just as many people, but Henderson, described elsewhere as a 25-year-old "out-of-work physics major," puts satire to the same serious use that Swift did. Oh, yes, it is very funny. -- Scientific American
Nikky (when did you change your name from Nikkiee and why?) relax… relax.. count to 10 and relax…
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Captain Noodulous Silicate TBHNA Jan 3rd, 2007 at 4:57 pm
Nikky (when did you change your name from Nikkiee and why?) relax… relax.. count to 10 and relax…
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When it got to hard for her to spell it! hahahahaha.
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Actually, if I recall correctly, someone else kept misspelling it, and that’s why she changed. Is that right Nikkiee?
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I knew her when she was dead….
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@L’TUAE_42 Jan 3rd, 2007 at 4:43 pm: Pornography Laden Phrases.
Please provide references and relevant links.
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“Actually, if I recall correctly, someone else kept misspelling it, and that’s why she changed. Is that right Nikkiee?”
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Not my fault I’ve got cheese for a brain
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@Peter Popoff
hahahaha
If I remember correctly you and Alchemist were complaining that you couldn’t spell
it….so nurr :P
@Captain Noodulous Silicate TBHNA
“No apparent, perceived or claimed evidence in any field, including history and chronology, can be valid if it contradicts the Scriptural record.
- Answers in Genesis’ Statement of Faith”
Excellent Captain, I’ve got just the forum to paste that quote too.
“Please provide references and relevant links.”
Yeah come on L’TUAE_42. Cough up
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@Alchemist Jan 3rd, 2007 at 5:27 pm
“Actually, if I recall correctly, someone else kept misspelling it,”
You practically “begged” me to change the spelling Alchemist……….hahahahaha
It’s OK I did have trouble with the spelling myself…..always seemed like a hell of a lot more “e” in there than there was.
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Alchemist, hey, please stop sending me those love letter emails!
My wife is still pissed that I call out… Wench Nikkiee…
In the middle of the night, I don’t think she’ll stand for to much more!
Ramen
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Nikkiiieeeee – I still get it wrong :) It’s like driving – left or right – what the hell, the middle will do.
Oh, I do not beg. Ever – well, not usually but that’s just a bloke thing (snigger).
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@Captain Noodulous Silicate TBHNA
“No apparent, perceived or claimed evidence in any field, including history and chronology, can be valid if it contradicts the Scriptural record.
- Answers in Genesis’ Statement of Faith”
Is there a link for that per chance, Captain
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Aw Peter, what can I say. Our love was doomed from the start. A transatlantic love affair destined for failure. We can still take the piss though?
The poor little fellow doesn’t know how to play, does he (TLM)?
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Sorry folks – have to hit the sack now – nasty w word the past two days has left me knackered.
Take care
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I want to say, to all here. That I do appreciate this website, and the sanity displayed by most.
I don’t know why I do it, but I go to christian forums and think I can make a difference.
Foolish at best, but it’s nice to be able to come here, and feel somewhat sane.
Even with the oars and the funni boi, you folks pull me through! haha
thanks!
Ramen
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RAmen Peter
BTW If you and Alchemist are going to be serious about your love, you will have to learn to watch/love the cricket.
That way you can both have a good cry together. A couple that cries together stays together. :P I’m sure Alchemist would appreciate it.
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I couldn’t make this crap up, if I wanted too…
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How to be a good Christian fountain…
Inflate your cheeks, and build up some pressure in your mouth. Pinch your nose if you need to.- With your cheeks inflated, try breathing in and out through your nose.- Here’s one to try at home, in the shower, or over the sink. Get a mouthful of water. While breathing through your nose normally, force a steady stream of water out through your lips. The key is to get a steady stream of water forced out by your cheek muscles, while breathing through your nose. Once your muscles have learned this “contradictory†set of actions.- Now, using a straw and a glass of water about 1/3 full, practice blowing bubbles with cheek pressure, and alternating the source of air, first lungs, then cheeks. Sniff air in while using your cheeks to create a steady stream of bubbles. In this exercise, the purpose is to make the switch between lung and cheek power, and keeping the bubbles coming steadily.
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I think a lot more Americans have to take a stand. The news just keeps getting worse.
Other governments need to be pressured not to let this insidious disease into their own countries as well. The fight has only just begun.
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20061231_chris_hedges_americas_holy_warriors/
RAmen
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What’s this? Peter Popoff and Alchemist are secretly in love? When did this happen!? I feel so out of the loop. (But congrats anyway to the ‘happy couple’ XD)
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Nikky, this has been reported in the news for a while — the US armed forces are a wing of the evangelical church. If the recruits don’t bow down to their superiors’ Christian beliefs then they are ostracized, and worse.
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Down with the military!
Down with the opressive primarily Christian government!
Kill the Royalists!
KILL THE ROYALISTS!!!
Then again, Democracy can be preserved, but not without it’s drawbacks:
1. If we do let Democracy live, then the Christians will continue opressing us
2. They could just take power again
3. The military would continue being run by these nazis
SO, an alternative:
Rather than waiting, let’s pack our fleece jackets and go to Hell!
Or Mongolia, either way, freedom awaits gents!
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Wench Nikky Jan 3rd, 2007 at 7:37 pm
I think a lot more Americans have to take a stand. The news just keeps getting worse.
Other governments need to be pressured not to let this insidious disease into their own countries as well. The fight has only just begun.
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20061231_chris_hedges_americas_holy_warriors/
RAmen
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Good link Nikkiee, The forum is lopsided though, all the posts are logical, and sensible.
We both know that doesn’t happen, it was a good read though.
REamen
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Yeah, it is over the top Peter. Thing is, it is the stuff of dreams of the evangelical fundamentalists. You’ve only got to go to a few of the more serious science forums to see how insidiously hard these YEC?IDiots are fighting to infiltrate their world view into society. Their agenda of redefining society into a biblical framework through education and politics is rarely, even thinly, veiled. Even when they are arguing with you, that there is no scientific evidence for evolution and any presented is a global conspiracy of scientists. Not just biologists ect who subscribe to evolution either. All fields of science are in on this conspiracy. These people are crazy and do strive hard to recruit anyone in power they can.
We’re lucky in OZ, but Bush’s tendencies and it’s global influence them keeps me, just a a little alert. The possible scenarios portrayed in that article are extreme, however. Reguardless of the over the top nature of the article, I have no doubt how dangerous these people could be with influence/power in the right places.
The evangelicals certainly work their butts off to get the numbers of supporters.
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@Peter Popoff
Check out the Dawkins forum, it’s probably a little more critical of the article. (when I last looked anyway).
http://richarddawkins.net/article,481,Americas-Holy-Warriors,Chris-Hedges-truthdig
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No apparent, perceived or claimed evidence in any field, including history and chronology, can be valid if it contradicts the Scriptural record.
- Answers in Genesis’ Statement of Faith
Well, somuch for their claims to be scientific! This simply rules out every evidence except that which fits their conclusion.
I also wonder which scripture exactly they mean? Probably not that bible where the made that little mistake of leaving out NOT in “thou shalt not commit adultery” ?
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@gill Jan 3rd, 2007 at 7:45 pm
“What’s this? Peter Popoff and Alchemist are secretly in love? When did this happen!? I feel so out of the loop. (But congrats anyway to the ‘happy couple’ XD)”
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It’s OK gill, we all kinda missed it, but you can’t fool TLM. No siree, he was onto it right away, he was. You just can’t put anything past one blessed with incredibly high interlect intelligence and awareness such as his.
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It’s andy mcIntoshs’ scientific and rational critique of modern geology that persuaded me.
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“Furthermore the science of a worldwide Flood is completely consistent with the fossil record. Right through the fossil record are fossils of both extinct creatures and those like today, sometimes in the same strata. The fish found in the old red sandstone of Scotland were not so different to fish today. Some were exactly the same as those today. The sedimentary geology of Scotland and around the world bears testimony to the geological power not ‘of the vestiges of an antique past’ but of recent events 4,500 years ago. Indeed some strata can only be explained by catastrophic deposition. For instance the coal seams all over the world, in places miles thick, are formed from vegetation, but the high rank coal that is often found in these seams can only be explained by catastrophic deposition, since high rank coal needs oxygen exclusion of the vegetation that would otherwise only form a low grade peat. Other evidence of polystrate fossil trees running right across strata again indicate rapid deposition and burial – all consistent with a worldwide Flood and which we have no excuse not to believe in. The rocks all around us testify to this, and we do well to heed, for God states (2 Peter 3) that the same Word that brought in the ferocity of worldwide judgement at the flood, will usher in the last days when every knee shall bow before the Creator and Judge – none other than our Saviour in all His glory.”
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Source: The incompatibility of Biblical Christianity and Evolution, see also edited version in Evangelical Alliance’s Idea magazine, July/August 2005
http://www.wasdarwinright.com/sixdays.htm
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Nikkiee,
What I find odd, is they don’t call themselves militia anymore.
Unless I just didn’t read it.
That is what they were originally called. Near where I live, they have a compound (they the michigan militia). That doesn’t really exsist, yet it houses something like 3,000 invisible, gun toting bible thumping militants. That are completly self supported, and somehow fly under the governments radar?
The compound has/hasn’t been there since about 1990. I don’t know what scares me more, the fact these camps are well established across the country? Or the fact that for the most part, they are invisible.
Heres a little insight…
http://www.adl.org/learn/ext_us/Militia_M.asp?xpicked=4&item=19
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L’TUAE_42 Jan 1st, 2007 at 5:59 pm
on the serious side, I think that right now the situation in America is very bad, but i also think it goes in cycles. When my dad was a kid children would be laughed out of school for even bringing up religiuos discussions. It just wasn’t polite and didn’t happen. It will get better eventually.
Interestingly, you know the senator who just swore in? Some jacks were making a fuss over how he swore on the Koran. You’re not even supposed to swear on anything, most people just bring something important along with them, “happened†to be a bible mostly.If I ever get elected, I’m gonna make a stack of Lord of the Rings, Hitchhikers Guide, and Asimov books to swear on.^_^
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L’TUAE, this guy gets to use Thomas Jefferson’s Quran, for his swearing in…
Regardless of what this women says…
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‘Some critics have argued that only a Bible should be used for the swearing-in. Last month, Virginia Republican Rep. Virgil Goode warned that unless immigration is tightened, “many more Muslims” will be elected and follow Ellison’s lead.’
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The times, they are a chang’n.
Heres the link…
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/03/congressman.quran.ap/index.html
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@ TLM Jan 3rd, 2007 at 6:20 pm
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“…A couple that cries together stays together.”
Sniff, sniff. I detect an Australian accent in that post. Hmmm, overtones of Wench like character and a subtle hint of formalin :)
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“What’s this? Peter Popoff and Alchemist are secretly in love? When did this happen!? I feel so out of the loop. (But congrats anyway to the ‘happy couple’ XD)â€
Yeah, I totally missed that.
you guys wanted references? let me go see if I can get on the school webpage from here. I’ll be back. But ya know, it only blocks it when you bring up any page cept the main.So of course people want to know more about it and access from home.
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okay, you can get to to homepage, but you can’t get to other websites FROM the homepage. So it’s useless if you want to see how it blocks the side pages. I did find out our network just uses a counter. If a page has over a predtermined number of “inapropriate” words, it gets blocked. I’m sure it’s from all the hate mail we get.
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Alchemist Jan 4th, 2007 at 4:18 pm
@ TLM Jan 3rd, 2007 at 6:20 pm
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“…A couple that cries together stays together.â€
Sniff, sniff. I detect an Australian accent in that post. Hmmm, overtones of Wench like character and a subtle hint of formalin :)
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I don’t know about you, Alchemist.
But I am flattered that our little trist was noticed!
I thought we were doing a good job of keeping it a secret too!
I’m blushing… … … …
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@Alchemist Jan 4th, 2007 at 4:18 pm
@ TLM Jan 3rd, 2007 at 6:20 pm
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“…A couple that cries together stays together.â€
Sniff, sniff. I detect an Australian accent in that post. Hmmm, overtones of Wench like character and a subtle hint of formalin :)
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Hahahahahaha
It’s that bloody identity crisis again. hahahaha
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@Peter Popoff Jan 4th, 2007 at 12:16 pm
“That is what they were originally called. Near where I live, they have a compound (they the michigan militia). That doesn’t really exsist, yet it houses something like 3,000 invisible, gun toting bible thumping militants. That are completly self supported, and somehow fly under the governments radar?”
http://www.adl.org/learn/ext_us/Militia_M.asp?xpicked=4&item=19
Thanks Peter. Saved the link and will have a read later. Such links/info are very handy to havesin certaind discussions.
RAmen
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@Peter Popoff Jan 4th, 2007 at 3:49 pm
“If I ever get elected, I’m gonna make a stack of Lord of the Rings, Hitchhikers Guide, and Asimov books to swear on.^_^”
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Peter Popoff!!! For shame Peter!
No GoFSM. I’s start praying to His Noodleyness and repent. While His Noodleyness has no problem with shared faith, I think it is blaspheme to exclude His Gospel from your list.
May you be sentenced to the consumption of 2-3 Tequila Cakes!!!!
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Oh no, Nikkie.
I was quoting L’TUAE there. She said that, I would have to be sworn in on a deck of cards myself. Although, the GoFSM, is a possibility.
Ramen
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I ask this to the gathered:
having lurked for a while and my conversion took place on Jan 1, 2007,
I now would like to know how best to spread the word at a long upcoming weekend in Vermont amongst friends from college (alas a while ago for the tassel turn).
Should I boldy go forth smiting about with sauceredness?
subtly turn the conversation towards pasta and pirates?
display my pirate fish and wait for queries?
or another way?.
Haveing been know to frequent the fointain of drafts and having come home with the
curse of the stipper (glitter!;)), what should I do?
Please note that I have the pirate fish on my car, and am bringing the large pirate fish flag to unfurl if conversion(s) take place.
Help.
Arrggghhhh and befurter mateys
RAmen
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There is a whole section here, with printable flyers and stuff to help you in your ministres, heres a link… http://www.venganza.org/materials/
good luck and,
Ramen
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ah yes,
I was wonderin’ more in the manner in which it behooves one
to spread the word.
Sure the props are the means by which to inform
I was asking the way that was the preferred way to
bring the topic to the conversation
not wanting to be gauche but not fearing to be either
after all coming of age with Zappa/MoI and the Firesign Theater
I was hoping for insight in the devious paths that may have been recounted.
BTW: the liquid of choice at thesae gatherings is Zubrovka so maybe
the christmas decoration story from Poland may come in handy.
/\/\/\/\/\
RAise the glass and pRAaise his noodliness.
Also tonight we will dine with one who will slurp publicly in Hell’s Kitchen
and thereby be touched by his noodily appendage; so my ministry is progressing
FSMF::FFSM
RAmen
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Well, we are a scurvy bunch. I say, talk like a pirate, kiss the wenches.
Be forthright, and commanding! People respond to power! And will want to be like you!
And if that doesn’t pan out, at least you’ll have kissed some wenches! It’s win/win really!
Ramen
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@Peter “…I don’t know about you, Alchemist.
But I am flattered that our little trist was noticed!
I thought we were doing a good job of keeping it a secret too!
I’m blushing… … … …”
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hahaha. I think Daffodil must be feeling a bit left out. He does seem to have become a little obsessed with us. I thought it was Nikky he had a thing for but now I’m not so sure.
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The ADL link’s a bit scary “…Anti-government and conspiracy-oriented in nature; prominent focus on firearms”. Sounds like quite a combination, paranoid nutters with a gun fetish.
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Alchemist Jan 5th, 2007 at 2:00 pm
The ADL link’s a bit scary “…Anti-government and conspiracy-oriented in nature; prominent focus on firearmsâ€. Sounds like quite a combination, paranoid nutters with a gun fetish.
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Yeah, they scare the hell out of me. I’ve seen two of their camps.
On the upshot though, they believe in your good lord jesus christ!
I’m sure the guns are just for shooting possem and stuff.
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There is truth in what you say Peter.
Indeed the kissing wenches is a good thing]
goes well with the drinking the beer
and just for the grins later in the eve
I’ll try kissing the beer and drinking the wenches
wouldn’t want to deprive the gathering from having
legends to tell round the campfire.
BTW: what do you call mountain pirates?
remember I’ll be in the Green Mts of Vermont
Aye’m not afeared o’talking like a pirate
nor of the swagger, just curious as to whether there is
a historical reference
AHA!!!!!!! –just found it–
http://www.fromoldbooks.org/Grose-VulgarTongue/l/land-pirates.html
they be called Highwaymen! Of course!
And so it came to pass not so long ago that a Highwayman and his one or two
skallywag companions came into the Green Mountains and laid about with noodles and ale with a splash of Zubrovka and ‘presso to bring the misinformed and uninformed and uniformed and such into the glow of his noodly appendage therby making that corner of the Green Mountains safe for strippers yet again and so did the volcano of beer arise and all was well.
Okay. that works for me
FSMF::FFSM
RAmen
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Commendatore Cappellini, Thats a way cool link! Cool songs and everything! You will be a good pirate, me thinks!
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Ya-Hip, My Hearties!
1819
From MOORE’S Tom Crib’s Memorial to Congress:—“Sung by Jack Holmes, the Coachman, at a late Masquerade in St Giles’s, in the character of Lord C—st—e—on … This song which was written for him by Mr. Gregson, etc.â€.
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I first was hired to peg a Hack
They call “The Erin†sometime back,
Where soon I learned to patter flash,
To curb the tits, and tip the lash—
Which pleased the Master of The Crown
So much, he had me up to town,
And gave me lots of quids a year,
To tool “The Constitutions†here.
So, ya-hip, hearties, here am I
That drive the Constitution Fly.
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Some wonder how the Fly holds out,
So rotten ’tis, within, without;
So loaded too, through thick and thin,
And with such heavy creturs IN.
But, Lord, ’t will last our time—or if
The wheels should, now and then, get stiff,
Oil of Palm’s the thing that, flowing,
Sets the naves and felloes going.
So ya-hip, Hearties! etc.
III
Some wonder, too, the tits that pull
This rum concern along, so full,
Should never back or bolt, or kick
The load and driver to Old Nick.
But, never fear, the breed, though British,
Is now no longer game or skittish;
Except sometimes about their corn,
Tamer Houghnhums ne’er were born.
So ya-hip, Hearties, etc.
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And then so sociably we ride!—
While some have places, snug, inside,
Some hoping to be there anon.
Through many a dirty road hang on.
And when we reach a filthy spot
(Plenty of which there are, God wot),
You’d laugh to see with what an air
We take the spatter—each his share.
So ya-hip, Hearties! etc.
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Nikky (RE: Jan 3rd, 2007 at 5:33 pm):
That quote from AIG you asked for can be found at
http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/about/faith.asp?vPrint=1
Do take a look at that page folks – it’s a real corker.
RAMen
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Captain Noodulous Silicate TBHNA Jan 5th, 2007 at 3:08 pm
Nikky (RE: Jan 3rd, 2007 at 5:33 pm):
That quote from AIG you asked for can be found at
http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/about/faith.asp?vPrint=1
Do take a look at that page folks – it’s a real corker.
RAMen
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haha, Captain. That is a hoot!
I’ve read all 66 books of the Bible.
And the lord almighty, still hasn’t bought me a beer!
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it’s bad. like a total denial of anything even remotely scientific
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Awast there me frenz ‘ere’s one I found
Artist: Zox
Album: Take Me Home
Title: Ode To The Mountain Pirates
raise your cups mountain pirates
let’s stop and have a drink
and observe a moment’s silence
we all need some time to think
cuz we’ve had a long hard day
unassuming, unafraid
and we bared our skin and bone
and we climbed atop this stone
so let us lie, mountain pirates
and look up at the stars
because I know that we are tired
but we’ve found out who we are
and upon this bed of dirt
we’ll pacify the hurt
upon this precipice
we know just what living is (living is, living is)
and so on to tonight’s conversion.
see youse next week
Arrggghhhh and befurter
FSM::FFSM
RAmen
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@Captain Noodulous Silicate TBHNA Jan 5th, 2007 at 3:08 pm
http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/about/faith.asp?vPrint=1
Thanks Captain. I was keen, so did a search and found it on this page (mission statement) as well:
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http://www.ministrywatch.org/mw2.1/F_FullRpt.asp?EIN=330596423
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Wench Nikky Jan 5th, 2007 at 3:35 pm
@Captain Noodulous Silicate TBHNA Jan 5th, 2007 at 3:08 pm
http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/about/faith.asp?vPrint=1
Thanks Captain. I was keen, so did a search and found it on this page (mission statement) as well:
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http://www.ministrywatch.org/mw2.1/F_FullRpt.asp?EIN=330596423
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Nikky, so I guess you it put the whole phrase in to Google.
Its all over the internet like a nasty rash.
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