Casey Luskin of the Discovery Institute’s Evolution News & Views has posted an article on the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster’s treatment of the Christmas holiday.
During the holiday season, many Americans take time to seriously and respectfully reflect on Judeo-Christian religious beliefs. Not so for one website, the “Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster” (FSM), a pro-evolution satire against intelligent design. They exhibit no interest in treating Christian holidays with respect. To celebrate the season, they are selling Christmas cards which show a dead Christian fish symbol. Other Christmas Cards portray Michelangelo’s well-known “Creation of Adam” painting on the Sistene Chapel, but the FSM cards have God replaced by the “Flying Spaghetti Monster.†Another graphic promoted on the page shows a nativity scene where Jesus is replaced by the “Flying Spaghetti Monster.” I can appreciate humor, but it’s also clear that the FSM images are intended to mock traditional religion:
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I disagree with most of what he’s saying – we are no more mocking Christian beliefs than Christians are mocking ours – but it’s still an interesting read.
Read the whole article HERE.
Re-Oared Marc Dec 31st, 2006 at 8:09 pm
@Micheal. Oh, no. Another teenager in angst who can’t spell his own name. Is there no end to this? I don’t have a lot of confidence in the next generation who will be in power.
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Hi Re-Oared Marc , I’m glad I’m not the only one to pick up on the spelling.
Of course it could be a new verison of an old name? Like a hamburger… Mc Heal?
Happy New Year!
Ramen
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My, that evil math site looked practically identical to the majority of theistic arguments, down to the punctuation; though it did have fewer misspellings.
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On another note; Micheal, though it’s been mentioned before, think to Holy Communion and the devouring of the body and blood of he whom you claim to be your savior. Also, consider actually reading about us and the Flying Spaghetti Monster; not the spegtti queen(or whatever works for us “mental cases” who seem to have better control over our cognition than you do, not to insult). Would you want us calling you a nazi and criticizing Christianity(which I assume you claim to be your religion), just because we read about your mythology of zombies, ghosts, and magic tricks? I still don’t see the connection between FSMism and nazism; in fact I think we’re pretty much the only religion that hasn’t killed anyone, not to mention mass genocide. Furthermore, I believe that Hitler more or less acted as a Christian in his elder years(when the nazis terrorized everyone).
I find it sad that the chances of “Micheal” ever actually reading any of our responses is slim to none, due to the high probability that s/he’s (maybe Micheal=Michelle?) a hit-and-run kind of person. They read this and figure that it’d be a nice ego boost to attempt to upset us because of his/her ignorance.
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@dantes_torment
“My, that evil math site looked practically identical to the majority of theistic arguments, down to the punctuation; though it did have fewer misspellings”
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Mathematicians aren’t famed for their spelling and grammar . Nor are are lot of other sience types. Praise the spelling and grammar checking program, I say! (not that I use it for my posts here!)
RAmen
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//Mathematicians aren’t famed for their spelling and grammar . Nor are are lot of other sience types. Praise the spelling and grammar checking program, I say!//
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Not to mention doctors. Fortunately they don’t often spell stuff out in dictation, even when they should (difficult names? hello?), and when they punctuate it’s usually beyond belief. We’ve got one who can put six semicolons in a sentence without breaking a sweat. Apparently periods only go at the end of a paragraph.
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Sorry about the bitching. I’ve been up all night reading the hatemail archives (always good for a laugh) and I’ve got to go to work in a couple of hours, 2-hour commute and all, to cover the medical imaging transcription for New Year’s Day, with maybe a little oncology if I run out of radiology and long-winded PET/CTs. (Time-and-a-half. Think time-and-a-half pay!)
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Spellcheck is great for those of use who can spell but can’t always type accurately. Never saw a grammar checker that was worth the trouble.
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Good sailing in 2007, me hearties!
RAmen
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Hehehe Nikky. I was always told my handwriting looked like a spider had crawled across the page. Ha, and people think text speak is new – look back on some old notes – vowels be gone?
Genuine extract from my old notes.
” 4 absn of rf must be xs spns in gd state – if no. a spns = no. B spins –> satn!”
Thank FSM firefox has a built in spell check for blogs :)
Happy New Year All
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This is a recent ID story in the UK:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-2524442_1,00.html
It is being portrayed as bad news for science.
I can’t see it myself the decision is to allow it as part of the religion syllabus as a ‘religious belief’.
It could well be a good thing for the cause to positively NOT admit it as scientific theory.
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Nikky what about a PastaBowl?
Cap’n Annie Spellcheck only works in certain cases. If you make a spelling error but it is a correct word in itself, the spellchecker doesn’t know. I know, I made a mistake with that in Dutch once, instead of door de heer (by mister …)I wrote dood de heer( kill mister..). So I usually re-read before I post, or in case of important letters, let someone else read it! But English is not an easy language to spell!!
And a happy, pastafilled new year everyone.
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My post will be moderated soon (I hope) but it is also good to see that the British press flags a move about ID with a headline about creationism:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-2524442_1,00.html
[same link as before]
It’s good to see no one can be bothered to entertain the ID conceit over here.
It isn’t science and it is creationism.
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Captain Noodulous Silicate TBHNA Jan 1st, 2007 at 8:23 am
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Thanks for the link Cap. Lord Adonis? Do you think he made that one up himself? :)
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On a serious note the quote from Colin Slee, the Dean of Southwark.
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“Everything needs to be explored, so that children can ask sensible questions. Though I see no huge difficulty with exploring intelligent design or creationism or flat Earth, they happen to be misguided, foolish and flying in the face of all evidence. I see no problem with Darwinian theory and Christian faith going hand in hand.â€
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Science and faith have never been good bedfellows, IMHO they are diametrically opposed. You have to give him credit though. Explore, ask sensible questions, then make up your own mind.
RAmen. Colin Slee
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The fact that ID seems to be insinuating it’s way into our schools though is worrying. That it can be brought up in Parliament? It’s often been said that where the USA goes, we tend to follow a few years later. Lets hope not.
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Alchemist,
I agree science and religion are not compatible and we shouldn’t permit the cop out that they are.
There’s an old quote that science and religion have nothing to say to each other.
The facts are more like:
Science: Religion your a bunch of rubbish.
Religion: La La La La. I’m not listening, can’t we co-exist.
That’s why I think ID is Christianity on the ropes. It’s trying to co-exist and failing except in parts of the US renowned for being backward.
What needs to come through is that intellectually we don’t accept ID is anything but warmed up and dressed over creationism and therefore religion and not science.
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I think you’re right that ID is Christianity on the ropes. It’s a “ok folks, the other stuff, well, haha, erm, will you accept this? It’s sort of scientific ish and it doesn’t exclude god. Oh please, we want to be friends with you.”
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I do think it’s dangerous though. The god squad will never accept our views yet they seem to believe that we will, eventually, accept theirs? Most, if not all, of the folks here have open minds, sceptical, but willing to listen and change if the evidence presents.
That’s why we can never win. All we can do is try to prevent the dawning of a new dark age.
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No, ID is the fundementalist molding the evidence into a theory that keeps their God as the creater. I guess you could say on the ropes, but they will never be willing to give up.
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DutchPastaGirl Jan 1st, 2007 at 8:20 am
“Nikky what about a PastaBowl?”
Good idea DutchPastaGirl, if we are not going to get any more input from other Pastafarians here, then a PastaBowl it shall be. I think we could add some sort of Pastafarian motto to the award. Come on guys, these employees were very brave to stand up to the park administrators. I think they deserve a little recognition from us. That way when we send our GoFSM theory of the Grand Canyon origins (get writing, Prophet Bobby, we won’t hold your spelling against you ;), to be sold in the bookstore (if such a thing is still alowed), they may bat in our corner.
RAmen
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@Dr. Maglacey
Wench Nikky told me to say that!
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“We’ve got one who can put six semicolons in a sentence without breaking a sweat. Apparently periods only go at the end of a paragraph.”
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I do that about half the time, I write run-on sentences that make the most hardened of english teachers’ eyes bleed.
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I’ve, been, known for, adding, alot of them , little curly, cue things, in, my posts, too!
But, it’s mostly, because, I think they look, cool, no other, reason, really.
Ramen
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Looks like those darn French and Italian atronomers are plotting their own little part of that evilutionist conspiracy.
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“Do Galaxies Follow Darwinian Evolution?”
‘Science Daily — Using VIMOS on ESO’s Very Large Telescope, a team of French and Italian astronomers have shown the strong influence the environment exerts on the way galaxies form and evolve. The scientists have for the first time charted remote parts of the Universe, showing that the distribution of galaxies has considerably evolved with time, depending on the galaxies’ immediate surroundings. This surprising discovery poses new challenges for theories of the formation and evolution of galaxies……..’
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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/12/061207160512.htm
RAmen
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Another top of the pops from the Disco Institute. I call them the Disco Institute because they don’t seem to understand evolution but they sure know how to dance around the issue.
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Thanks for the links Nik.
RAmen
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the 2006 Darwin Award Nominees have been named:
Missed Stop Misstep
2006 Darwin Award Nominee
Unconfirmed by Darwin
http://www.darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin2006-09.html
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Faithful Flotation
2006 Darwin Award Nominee
Confirmed True by Darwin
http://www.darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin2006-02.html
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the 2006 Darwin Award Nominees have been named:
Missed Stop Misstep
2006 Darwin Award Nominee
Unconfirmed by Darwin
http://www.darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin2006-09.html
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Faithful Flotation
2006 Darwin Award Nominee
Confirmed True by Darwin
http://www.darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin2006-02.html
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I like the one about faithfull floatation particularly.
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I hope the people who heard his sermon learned something about Faith vs. Gravity/Dihydrogen Oxide.
RAmen
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@Gnocci Man
“learned something about Faith vs. Gravity/Dihydrogen Oxide.”
That’s a good way of putting it.
hahahahaha
RAmen
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speechless… only thing I can see is christians mocking uss… *sigh*
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what’s the matter casey…can’t get over the fact that your organization sucks and nobody likes people like you.
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it’s like what i say about the discovery institute. it’s a fake institute that really isn’t discovering much; or what i really mean, anything at all
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this casey luskin guy reminds of casey powell….another bitching fundie that has no sense of humor and takes the god thing way too seriously. seriously, if god were everywhere, the world would not be fun at all. to all you fundies out there, get over yourselves. it’s 2007, not the Dark Ages.
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also, they claim that evolution news is based on the fact that the news on TV is biased. well, maybe they should ‘discover’ that the news may be telling the truth on the subject and that they are not that popular within the world.
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I just found this website today because a friend recommended it. You present some fascinating arguments and points, with a humorous spin. I may not agree with all of them, but they definitely make you think. Oh, and as a Christian I would just like to go on the record as saying I am ashamed and abashed about the many hateful comments you’ve received from other Christians. They just make themselves look like baboons, which kind of makes them into living examples of evolution or more appropriately devolution.
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@just me
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good point, i’ll keep that in mind. most of the other christians are the ones that take it to the extreme. this site isn’t an attack on christianity, just a parody of the creationist arguments. may you be touched my noodly appendege.
RAmen and Amen
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Welcome aboard, Just me.
Don’t forget to try the water…
Ramen
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Oh yee followers of FSM, today i have seen the light…err… NOODLES!
It was upon me reading these words of your wisdom, that I understood, that FSM was the one way I could in a religion find, what I wanted to say to the world!
I bow to the Monster and prophet for this revelation!
Long I have concidered to join FSM and now I belive I truly shall! And with me I shall seek to aid the spreading of FSM to the far north, the lands of the proto-pirates, the vikings! The FSMists of Finland bow their eye-patched heads to you.
And I make a solemn promice that I shall NOT depart this world (exept on a space-pirate ship, given chance) unitll the word of FSM has been planted thoroughly into the snowy soild of my homeland!
Glory to the Noodly One!
RAmen!
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Welcome to you too! SaunaPirate.
Did I understand you correctly? You are going to write the FSM’s name in snow with pee?
Cool! I did that for a girl once myself.
Ramen
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@Peter Popoff
Pete it’s me, Pixel Pete, there’s something wrong with my computer so I have to use my awesome alias Mr. Wednesday. I can’t post so I’m seeing if this will work.
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SWEET FSM IT WORKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I’ve been trying to post but it wouldnt work!
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Now let’s see if my old account will work…
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YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’m back everyone, and ready to post again!
@SaunaPirate
I’m glad you’ve seen the ethics of the situation and chosen the clearly logical avenue. May the FSM bring you plunder for your enlightenment.
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Can’t we all just get along?
I, for one, really enjoy a nice meal of body of FSM, but it’s all the better with a nice slice of garlic body of Christ and a rich glass of blood of Christ.
If FSM is gonna beget an only begotten son, can he please be tiramisu flavor?
Yours in supper,
Pirate Deke
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@SaunaPirate
Welcome to our wonderful ship, that is the CoFSM.
The xtians are planning a trip to Hell for us, so I am I right in assuming you won’t have far to travel to this upcoming event. (excuse ignorance I’m an Aussie)
We are not sure about the fire we are supposed to burn in though, because of the amount of snow in Norway. Any ideas how we can get a really really big fire going in the middle of the snow?
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Well! Holy batballs! Pixel Pete,
Glad you can post again. I had that problem once and I had to change my email here? The FSM works in mysterious ways…
Ramen
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Yeah that’s what I had to do too.
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“Any ideas how we can get a really really big fire going in the middle of the snow?”
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I think it’ll be going when we arrive, er, wenche (Can I call you wenche nikk if you’re going to put an e on the end?)
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@Wench Nikkie
I have a friend who speaks some Swedish and another who has a pretty mean German. Will these languages be necessary in Hell, I’m not sure cause I’m pretty sure that all Europeans speak English or something like that.
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Pixel Pete, I’m pretty sure you can speak however you like in hell.
I figure I’ll be so dang drunk, I will be incoherent anyway.
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I think all we’ll need to learn id “another beer please” and “where’s the toilet?”
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i bet more people end up in hell than in heaven
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i wonder what all the people are like in heaven. in my opinion, pretty boring. if it were like how it was in south park: bigger, longer, and uncut; then i might become good
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@Dr. Maglacey Jan 1st, 2007 at 9:06 pm: @Dr. Maglacey “Wench Nikky told me to say that!”
Dr. Maglacey and/or Wench Nikkiee – errm I’m a bit confused now. Who is whom and which one (if any and/or many) is which?
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do you ever wonder on forums if all the people you respond to are the same person?
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Beastly Rich Jan 3rd, 2007 at 4:03 pm
do you ever wonder on forums if all the people you respond to are the same person?
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I do at times wonder that.
It gets somewhat easy if you frequent a forum though.
Everybody has their own style of writting that others really can’t imitate, at least
“can’t imitate” for any length of time anyway.
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Hi everyone,
On the BBC religious blog that elected Dawkins as man of the year (no doubt to the disappointment of those who held the election) there is another thread close to our Pastafarian hearts. This one about Truth in Science cranks writing to the British government. They’re pushing for ID in UK schools, the very thing we absolutely detest. If you have a minute, feel free to post how you feel about this on
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/ni/2007/01/norman_nevin_defends_truth_in.html
And if you do, why not leave a small clue as to how your name in that forum relates to the one over here. I’d like to know the size of the Pastafarian input.
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@DutchPastaGuy
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let’s hope creationists who are Brits are in the minority
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