57 Responses to “fsmdeco.JPG”
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1 - December 27th, 2006 at 9:22 pm - FSM lover from south dakota Says:
awesome
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2 - December 27th, 2006 at 10:31 pm - Trapped in Alabama Says:
I believe!
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3 - December 28th, 2006 at 3:58 pm - Beastly Rich Says:
Why does this picture have a forum?
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4 - December 28th, 2006 at 4:11 pm - Mad John Kidd Says:
Was wondering that myself, Beastly Rich. But then again, why not, it is a nice picture and further proof of our Spaghedeity. Open thread?
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5 - December 28th, 2006 at 4:14 pm - Beastly Rich Says:
yes, why not.
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6 - December 28th, 2006 at 4:19 pm - Beastly Rich Says:
perhaps it’ll spare some other threads from being spammed too badly.
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7 - December 28th, 2006 at 4:26 pm - Wench Nikky Says:
OK I second open thread. We need a new one!
RAmen -
8 - December 28th, 2006 at 4:55 pm - Johnny Corvette Says:
Open thread? OK
Did anyone catch Rick Warren and Jon Meacham on Meet the Press Sunday?
When asked about Sam Harris’ books Warren responded -
“…..Sam is overlooking the 20th century. Because the truth of the 20th century is more people were killed in the 20th century by atheist governments than all Christian ideas throughout history combined. When you look at the godless communism, and, and Nazism—which in itself was, was we’re the ruler—tens and tens of millions, maybe a hundred million people were killed in the 20th century by atheists, not by believers. So yes, you can go back to the Crusades, and they were wrong. They were flat out wrong. But let’s take the most recent history. Atheists were what caused the most people—Stalin was an atheist, Mao was an atheist, Hitler was an atheist. He was an occultist, actually. And, and so let’s just make sure that history is told.”
Lots of other interesting discussion there.
Full transcript - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16202841/
Go down to page 5 or so.
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9 - December 28th, 2006 at 5:19 pm - Wench Nikky Says:
Plenty of comments on the Dawkins threads reguarding whether all these people were killed in the name of atheism or not. Many of those commenting in those forums appear to present indepth knowledge/research rather than the just the broard claims presented by most of the theists on this issue. The concensus seems to be (going by the vast number and variety of references provided), that Hitler indeed paid homage to the church during his spree.
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10 - December 28th, 2006 at 5:27 pm - Re-Oared Marc Says:
This picture looks like some of my dates when I was younger. *sigh*
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11 - December 28th, 2006 at 5:32 pm - Mad John Kidd Says:
@ Re-Oared Marc
I dated a blind girl when I was younger. She was all hands. Well, she wanted to “see” what I looked like, innit. All over. Quite nice, actually.
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12 - December 28th, 2006 at 5:34 pm - Re-Oared Marc Says:
I dated someone who was seeing-impaired as well when I was young. It was a very sensual experience and I would do it again in a heartbeat.
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13 - December 28th, 2006 at 5:48 pm - Mad John Kidd Says:
Seeing-impaired, my bad. We didn’t we have pc back then. She referred to herself as blind and had no qualms about it. Heard she got married but have not seen her for many years. Sure she is well. She had a good head on her shoulders.
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14 - December 28th, 2006 at 8:28 pm - Johnny Corvette Says:
I think Warren was responding to Sam Harris’ accusation about religious beliefs being the cause of so many deaths and oppression in history. In that light I accept Warren’s accretion that atheists should be held to the same scrutiny. Personally I don’t really see religion belief (or non belief) as the cause of war, killing etc. as much as human nature. WWII was more a power, resource and commodity grab than anything else. The Crusades and earlier Jihad (Muslim empire stretching to the Rock of Gibraltar) were more political than religious.
Whilst we sea faring types be mostly peace lovin’ I expect if all the world were pirates we would surely be at each others throats over gold and other booty, I do. Arrrgghh.
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15 - December 28th, 2006 at 9:07 pm - Peter Popoff Says:
Johnny Corvette Dec 28th, 2006 at 8:28 pm
Personally I don’t really see religion belief (or non belief) as the cause of war, killing etc. as much as human nature.
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I don’t think belief in religion, is a cause of war either.
But, no doubt using religion as an excuse, has worked forever to promote wars.
And these jihad guys, well, I just don’t know that much about them, they don’t know that much about themselves, for that matter. -
16 - December 28th, 2006 at 9:15 pm - Wench Nikky Says:
Yeah. The theists always try to tie in acts of Hitler et. al. with atheism and lack of morality.
Funny, how in my country alone. thousands upon thousands of non-believers (atheists) put their age up to enlist, so as to go and fight Hitler.
It all goes back to that same old myth the theists always claim.
Hitler and Stalin, among others were also about political power, not a dogma of atheism.
http://richarddawkins.net/articleComments,460,10-myths—and-10-truths—about-atheism,Sam-Harris,page2#comments -
17 - December 28th, 2006 at 9:36 pm - Wench Nikky Says:
That last link is no good! Try this one
http://richarddawkins.net/article,460,10-myths—and-10-truths—about-atheism,Sam-Harris
This forum appears to have been running hot for the past few days over these issues.
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18 - December 28th, 2006 at 9:38 pm - Wench Nikky Says:
Still no good! Last try:
http://richarddawkins.net/cat1_Reason,cat2_Political -
19 - December 28th, 2006 at 9:39 pm - Wench Nikky Says:
That last one works! :)
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20 - December 28th, 2006 at 10:09 pm - Wench Nikky Says:
@Peter Popoff
‘But, no doubt using religion as an excuse, has worked forever to promote wars’
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Spot on Peter.
Also, one of the biggest atrocities going on at present in the name of religious dogma, is the anti-comdom campaign in AIDS rife areas of developing countries. Many women in these places don’t even have the choice of consensual sex (”abstainence solution”) that is agressively pushed by missionaries from the religious right. Abstainence only preaching has been not only a dismal failure, but has seen rising numbers of AIDS cases where it has been implemented. The abstinence only growd and the governments that support them get quite a big chunk of the funding from Mr Bush.
