Excellent satire of the criticisms of religion and Intelligent Design … unless you guys actually think the creation of the FSM and its subsequent religion is a valid critique of religion and Intelligent Design in the form of satire or actual truth for that matter. In that case, try studying and understanding your “opponents†first before attacking. Or maybe this “religion†of the FSM is just a good case of showing that people will believe almost anything (assuming that your church members ACTUALLY believe the FSM to be true). Yet, I very highly doubt that people are QUITE that stupid. Given enough time, they should be eliminated by natural selection anyway.
However, both ways I do enjoy and appreciate the artistic work and creativity you have put into the FSM and its subsequent church. It, as well as the hate mail you receive, is truly hilarious.
It’s a good thing that artistic method isn’t restrained by the scientific method. The religion of the FSM is evidence that art is not restrained by logic.
As an aside, since art is allowed to be taught in school in the form of an art class, the religion of the FSM should be allowed in school as well. Drop me a line if you need help creating a case (I wish I were a lawyer).
Similarly, religion or philosophy would also be considered art if it did not attempt to validly explain the existence of good and evil, reason, and other enigmas of the “human condition.†Art attempts to depict; religion, science, and philosophy attempt to explain in a valid manner.
Nevertheless, I can see how the religion of the FSM could attempt to explore the very concept of validity and its relation to truth. However, in this case, it should also attempt to be more valid itself and satirically examine or disprove science as well in order to be more encompassing and relative in addressing validity, in my humble opinion.
Or the creation of FSM and its religion may be just a load of quasi-artistic BS, in accordance with all gods written in history who were included within and were a part of the universe and describable as natural objects. re: ra (sun-god), poseidon (god of the sea), fsm (flying chunk of spaghetti and meatballs) “may his appendages be honoredâ€
Regardless of the psychology or validity behind the FSM, thank you for the humor, and good luck in continuing to intelligently or not so intelligently (whichever the case may be) evolve the FSM and its religion.
May your God given or unguided evolutionary given ability for creativity and the FSM’s noodly appendage guide you in your never ending search for that natural-selection-created concept of Truth.
CJYman http://cjyman.blogspot.com
I leave with you these three quotes:
“If the whole universe has no meaning, we should never have found out that it has no meaning: just as, if there were no light in the universe and therefore no creatures with eyes, we should never know it was dark. Dark would be without meaning.”
–C. S. Lewis
“If the solar system was brought about by an accidental collision, then the appearance of organic life on this planet was also an accident, and the whole evolution of Man was an accident too. If so, then all our present thoughts are mere accidents – the accidental by-product of the movement of atoms. And this holds for the thoughts of the materialists and astronomers as well as for anyone else’s. But if their thoughts – i.e., of Materialism and Astronomy – are merely accidental by-products, why should we believe them to be true? I see no reason for believing that one accident should be able to give me a correct account of all the other accidents. It’s like expecting that the accidental shape taken by the splash when you upset a milk-jug should give you a correct account of how the jug was made and why it was upset.”
–C. S. Lewis
“The most incomprehensible thing about the universe is that it is comprehensible.â€
–Albert Einstein
Shinysheep Jan 12th, 2007 at 5:10 pm
Hmm.
I dont appear to be able to read these posts. the text is like.. Stacking.
Anyone with techno knowledge able to help out here?
Im running IE on Windows 98, if you need to know.
(shut up)
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I suggest you drink a little less!
Ramen
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Those magic mushrooms keep making all those ramen noodles stack up like firewood. Where am I? I am so glad that Peter didn’t make the obvious joke about the shiny sheep, too. Actually, no, I am disappointed. I have no life.
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I don’t think I’ve heard the joke about shiny sheep? Are they from New Zealand?
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Peter.
” I suggest you drink a little less!”
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hahahaha – Now that was funny!
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Is that the one about velcro?
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Which one about velcro?
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Sticking velcro on your boots so that the sheep can’t get away ;)
Sorry, you did ask.
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hahahahaha
Bet my Kiwi friends have already heard it :(
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My Confession… I’m drunk as hell folks!
Ramens
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Hahaha – probably Nikkiee. They use the same jokes against us Yorkshire folks.
You’ve heard about the bloke that goes for a job on a ranch. He knocks on the door and the ranchers wife greets him. “I hear you’re looking for seasonal workers to help with the sheep” – “Oh yeah, you’d best see my husband, he’s in the shed shearing the sheep!”
So he goes to the shed and sees the rancher giving it some with a ewe. “Your wife sent me. Oh sorry mate, are you shearing?” – “Fuck off and your own, this ones mine”
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Sure you’ve heard that one
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oops insert *get* between and /your.
Haha – you’ve had your fun with the Ashes. I doubt you’ll be offended by this (hope not)
Foreplay for the Aussie male “Brace yerself Sheila, here it comes”
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Nikkiee and Alchemist.
Hey folks, I’m having a hard time seeing tonite!
Either the Labatts or the Skunk, has clouded my vision.
Which at any rate, will be cleared up tomorrow. Until I start in again,
So I will wish you all a good time until the next time!
Yeah, I’m stoned!
Ramen
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Hahaha – night Peter. Don’t forget to tie a rope around your leg so you don’t fly away :)
BTW well done today in getting a few of us together. Herding cats would be easier! (I thought that was Terry Pratchett, but have been told it might be Dawkins. Whoever wrote it was right though :))
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Alchemist Jan 12th, 2007 at 8:30 pm
“I doubt you’ll be offended by this”
You’ll have to deal with Jingles for that one! Hahahahaha
Back to work for me :(
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Farmer on a Nth Queensland property was out and about picking some berries.
His bucket was half full and his hands stained red from the juice. He wanders over to one of his dams to wash his hands and finds three naked female backpakers swimming there. On seeing him, the girls move into a huddle, informing him they aren’t getting out until he goes away. He calmly tells them “Don’t worry about me girls, I’m just here to feed the crocs”
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Jokes ey? Here’s a good one.
What do you do if you see a pom (or liberal/republican/tory/fundamentalist/despised group of your choice) run screaming down the street with half his brains hanging out?
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Stop laughing and reload.
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@Alchemist
“Foreplay for the Aussie male “Brace yerself Sheila, here it comes—
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Bah! Why do seagulls fly upside-down over England?
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Because the Poms aren’t worth sh**ting on
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On a slightly related note…
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/10/22/waust22.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/10/22/ixnewstop.html
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The BPARD mentioned is the same group that recently claimed the adds for a beer over here (toohey’s supercold; too cold for the poms, the poms would have nightmares etc etc) is racial villification, and that the term Pom itself is as bad as nigger.
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Bloody hell, whatever happened to the stiff upper lip?
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I think the difference, for me anyway, is that it is done as a joke – no-one would seriously say to an English person in Australia “No, you are not allowed to drink Toohey’s”
We have had an advert recently for a chocolate bar “Yorkies” which is apparently too much for girls (*insert Monica Lewinsky cigar joke here*) but no-one would actually say girls aren’t allowed to eat them.
I can kind of see where people are thinking “It is one rule for them and another for us” but it is really totally different in my eyes.
And anyway it is definitely the Welsh who shag the sheep! ;)
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@Jingles Jan 13th, 2007 at 12:30 am :
Bah! Why do seagulls fly upside-down over England?
That joke doesn’t make sense, our seagulls don’t fly upside down.
It’s seagaulls in Oz that are upside down!
It’s a well known fact that the international standard for “up” is defined by Nelson’s Column.
Time is defined in Greenwich, sea-level a Newlyn and ‘up’ in Trafalgar Square.
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@Peter Popoff Jan 12th, 2007 at 9:09 pm :
Peter, but surely you didn’t inhale!
You’re a presidental candidate remember…
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“It’s a well known fact that the international standard for “up†is defined by Nelson’s Column.”
Hahahahahaha!
I think Peter might have a few problems persuading people he didn’t inhale….
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Remember the game with rubber brains (Wench Nikky Dec 30th, 2006 at 4:06 pm )?
Fight back for hearts and minds (or at least space on top of the bookcase):
http://www.secularism.org.uk/shop.html?eshopid=68926
Really fight back:
http://www.secularism.org.uk/join.html
Secularist of the year was Prof. Steve Jones for
Opposing the incursion of creationism – and its deceitful variation, “intelligent design” – in to British Schools.
Truely the professor has been embraced by his noodly appendage.
RAmen.
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Remember the game with rubber brains (Wench Nikky Dec 30th, 2006 at 4:06 pm )?
Fight back for hearts and minds (or at least space on top of the bookcase):
http://www.secularism.org.uk/shop.html?eshopid=68926
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Really fight back:
http://www.secularism.org.uk/join.html
Secularist of the year was Prof. Steve Jones for:
Opposing the incursion of creationism – and its deceitful variation, “intelligent design†– in to British Schools.
Truely the professor has been embraced by his noodly appendage.
RAmen.
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I just love this bit;
http://www.secularism.org.uk/debaptism.html
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It isn’t a joke. Some people feel deeply resentful that they were baptised against their will as children.
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Jingles, I don’t know of anyone who would be offended by being called a Pom. Mind you, I’m from Yorkshire, we don’t even think we’re English. On our maps anything south of Sheffield has “here be dragons” on it (Sheffield’s a bit sus. too – southern influence, they’re getting soft – people wear coats there in the winter!)
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Some people seem to go out of their way to look for things to be offended by. “you’re offending me and Allah by not letting me wear my niqab in my passport ‘photo” or “I’m a christian – you’re offending me by not allowing me to wear my three foot crucifix to work”
A school teacher was disciplined recently for telling the kids Santa Claus didn’t exist – told the truth – how dare they.
A bunch of firefighters were disciplined and sent on diversity training last year. Their crime. They didn’t want to give out fire safety leaflets at a gay pride rally. Not because the people were gay some much as they thought they’d get a bit of stick turning up in full firefighters uniforms.
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The plan for world domination is working well, infest, Australia was the first experiment, then America, the puritan English caught on for that one though, now they’re the fundies (shudder)
BTW. I’m of course talking about the Irish plan, control the world and remain loved by all, it also allows for acting as nuts as you want, it’s expected
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Claprán Jan 13th, 2007 at 11:22 am
“….I’m of course talking about the Irish plan, control the world and remain loved by all..”
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I think there’ll be a few people from London, Manchester, Bournemouth etc who would disagree with you there.
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Puritan England? i think i’ve missed that bit and i’ve been to most of it. Usually it’s full of debauchery, pillaging, grog and wenches.
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maybe it follows me?
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and i may be offended by “pom” if i knew what it stood for!
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in any case.. to keep the banter going…
An englishman wants to marry an irish girl and is told he needs to become irish before he can do so. It is a very simple operation where they remove 5% of your brain.
Anyway the englishman wakes up after the operation and the doctor comes up to him looking all worried and say “I am terribly sorry, theres been a mistake to be sure, we accidently removed 50% of your brain instead of 5%!”
The englishman sits up and says “She’ll be right, mate”
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“Claprán Jan 13th, 2007 at 11:22 am
The plan for world domination is working well,”
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I agree! Alchemist and myself are off to a damn good start!
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HAHAHAHA Spider. Like it! That should stir Jingles up :)
To even it up there’s a good uncyclopedia entry on Yorkshire http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Yorkshire There’s a pretty good one on ’stralia too.
I don’t think anyones sure where pom comes from. I’ve heard it’s from Prisoner of the Mainland, Prisoner of Her Majesty. Or short for pomegranate – the colour we go after two days in their sun.
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One last dig at Jingles and Nikkiee. Brian Johnson, the famous cricket commentator, went out to Oz to cover one of the Ashes Tests. When he got to Immigration the Officer asked him.
“Do you have any criminal convictions” to which he replied
“My dear sir, I didn’t realise it was still a requirement”
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Bloody hell poms, that the best you’ve got?
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How do you know when a plane full of Englishmen has landed?
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When the engines are turned off you can still hear whining.
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Why do you take a cowpat to a Pom wedding?
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To keep the flies away from the bride.
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What do you call a Pom cricketer with a 100 next to his name?
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A bowler
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And now for something a little longer (and a little cruder, perhaps);
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An englishman is trying to explain to an Australian girl what a knob is.
Exasperated by trying to explain it genteely, he finally gives up, unzip his pants and pulls it out.
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“Ahhh… I see,” replies the girl “It’s like a cock, only smaller.”
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CJYman – You obviously do not do enough research on what you critique. If you had researched more you wouldn’t have to be asking the question of whether we’re sadistic lunatics or we have very well planned and thought out satire. IT’S SATIRE MY FRIEND!! Now go shoot yourself for not figuring that out in the beginning, and having to ask this question anyways.
Or better yet, I’ll kill you with my own personal knife. (Oh ho, it’s my alias, you get it?).
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Jingles Hahaha. Just to start up the North/South Town/Country ones.
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Yorkshireman and a Southerner at a golf club.
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Southerner ……”I say old chap, you’re new here are you not?”
Yorkshireman…”Aye!”
Southerner……”Oh, I say. What an intriguing accent you have! Not a town member are you?”
Yorkshireman…”Aye, lad.”
Southerner…….” Thought so. I’m a country member!”
Yorkshireman…”Aye. I’ll remember!”
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I pity people who write long letters disproving his noodlyness. Of course its rediculous, but who cares? its fun being a Pastafarian, even if i dont believe in him. The religion brings up good points of lacking in church teachings, and it bashes ID, which needs to be bashed. If anyone is really concerned that we beleive this, then they are the insane and stupid ones. this hate amle is nearly three pages, and it points out stuff we know. so what? its satire. learn to deal with it.
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HAHA!! CJYman you crack me up! “OH! Er…Yes! I knew what was going on all along!! I was just PRETENDING to be a moron!! Sure fooled you bunch of rubes! Hardeeharhar!! I sure am clever!!” Nice try, but no save.
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I had to read alchemists joke twice before I got it, HaHa
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I love when people quote stuff without really understanding it. The moron that quoted Einstein trying to think he or she is superior and read a book in school should do some research before pinning their hopes in proving thier infantile beliefs on a known aethist. Yes…Einstein is an aethist. He does not believe in a god so you may want to rethink your position and use someone else jackass. Why are people who believe in religion (Mostly the christians) so intolerant? What makes their stories any more believeable than a flying spaghetti monster? Maybe if we kill a few million people in the name of FSM they will think twice about calling us idiots. Tolerance is such a wonderful thing.
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The gospel would have to be re-written if a single person were to die in the name of FSM.
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albert einstein would have almost certainly endorsed pastafarianism, seeing as how he didn’t believe in god, and certainly believed in science.
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I have to disagree w/ every other reply to this email that i read. Each one that i read was written by a person who either didn’t understand the email, or simply ignored its contents and made a joke of it. I, however, read this email and find it to be very articulate and comprehensible. Even if the points are a little mixed up, can you really blame the author of the email? Your “religion” is wrong on so many levels that its very difficult to address them all in a manner that makes sense, since your religion itself doesn’t even.
In your defense, i would like to address all of the people who have emailed you with threats of a firey hell and eternal damnation. It is not my belief that my God has created all of you just to destroy you, or worse, to allow you to suffer eternally.
My prayers are with you as you are clearly unable to accept God’s ULTIMATE truth at this point in your lives. My prayer is not that you would convert to the commonly known “Christian Religion,” but that instead you would come to know my Jesus as He is, not get wrapped up in the “religion” but truly embrace His love, acceptance and peace.
No judgment comes from me, only a hope for an understanding and a true peace in each of your lives…. even if you are unable to see at this time the void that exists in your hearts and lives.
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also– the person that wrote this email didn’t use albert einstein as a means of proving Christianity, OBVIOUSLY. And to think that the author of the email thought that einstien was a Christian would also be a mistake. The author of the email more than likely knew that einstien wasn’t a Christian, yet used a quote of his to heighten the validity of his argument. If even an brilliant man who is an atheist recognizes that something exists outside of “nature” or whatever you attribute this “reality” to, how much more powerful is the mans argument?
All of the comments dismissing the man’s use of the quotes and disregaurding them without first discovering what they mean are wastes of posts. It makes no sense to discredit something based only soley upon an unjustified opinion.
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Yes, another fundie! Welcome, Madeline, beware of venganza’s fundie bashers, and prepare your best sunday wit!
RAmen to you Pirates!
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Thanks, Madeline.
It all makes sense to me now.
Ramen
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Madeline,
I want to get to know this jesus dude, “as he was”
Will he like have lunch with me or maybe…
Do you got a number I can call?
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About this site…
Between the posts that quote the Bible and those which center on philosophy this is quite impressive. And some of the satire shows extremely creative endeavor on the part of many posters.
Christians must remembers that they will be scorned and scoffed at and that many who hear the Gospel will never accept it. As a former skeptic, I at least was curious to the point of honeslty investigating the claims of the Bible. Through examining history, archaeology, science and prophecy. I was able to examine the evidence and ultimately decide to follow Christ. The problem with skeptics for the most part is that its easier to doubt than to investigate thoroughly before claiming that something isn’t true.
The greatest ’sin’.. the sin that condemns us, is the sin of UNBELIEF.
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Mace,
You’re a nit.
There is no evidence not of any kind that Christ was/is the son of God.
So don’t get all sciency on us. It’s just embarassing.
Go back to blind faith. Its stupid, but its an honest and respectable stupid.
With the whole proof con we don’t know if you’re an idiot or a liar – or both.
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Oh, for…just because someone doesn’t believe in something doesn’t mean they haven’t looked into it and done their research. I wonder why fundies like Madeline consider it a ‘void’ when you don’t believe in Jesus, but don’t tell you you’re missing out for not worshiping Allah? What is that atheist quote about believing in one less god…?
(Either way I rather like my life, so if this is what a ‘void’ is like–awesome!)
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One more thing–the ‘greatest sin’ should be being an utter bastard, along the lines of Hitler or Bin Laden…not ‘not believing’ in something. Or so I always thought.
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@The Mace Mar 16th, 2007 at 3:01 pm “Through examining history, archaeology, science and prophecy. I was able to examine the evidence and ultimately decide to follow Christ. The problem with skeptics for the most part is that its easier to doubt than to investigate thoroughly before claiming that something isn’t true.”
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Great post, I like it. Subistitute “reason” for “Christ”, “believers” for “skeptics”, “believe” for “doubt” and it actually makes sense!
RAmen!
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