Excellent satire of the criticisms of religion and Intelligent Design … unless you guys actually think the creation of the FSM and its subsequent religion is a valid critique of religion and Intelligent Design in the form of satire or actual truth for that matter. In that case, try studying and understanding your “opponents†first before attacking. Or maybe this “religion†of the FSM is just a good case of showing that people will believe almost anything (assuming that your church members ACTUALLY believe the FSM to be true). Yet, I very highly doubt that people are QUITE that stupid. Given enough time, they should be eliminated by natural selection anyway.
However, both ways I do enjoy and appreciate the artistic work and creativity you have put into the FSM and its subsequent church. It, as well as the hate mail you receive, is truly hilarious.
It’s a good thing that artistic method isn’t restrained by the scientific method. The religion of the FSM is evidence that art is not restrained by logic.
As an aside, since art is allowed to be taught in school in the form of an art class, the religion of the FSM should be allowed in school as well. Drop me a line if you need help creating a case (I wish I were a lawyer).
Similarly, religion or philosophy would also be considered art if it did not attempt to validly explain the existence of good and evil, reason, and other enigmas of the “human condition.†Art attempts to depict; religion, science, and philosophy attempt to explain in a valid manner.
Nevertheless, I can see how the religion of the FSM could attempt to explore the very concept of validity and its relation to truth. However, in this case, it should also attempt to be more valid itself and satirically examine or disprove science as well in order to be more encompassing and relative in addressing validity, in my humble opinion.
Or the creation of FSM and its religion may be just a load of quasi-artistic BS, in accordance with all gods written in history who were included within and were a part of the universe and describable as natural objects. re: ra (sun-god), poseidon (god of the sea), fsm (flying chunk of spaghetti and meatballs) “may his appendages be honoredâ€
Regardless of the psychology or validity behind the FSM, thank you for the humor, and good luck in continuing to intelligently or not so intelligently (whichever the case may be) evolve the FSM and its religion.
May your God given or unguided evolutionary given ability for creativity and the FSM’s noodly appendage guide you in your never ending search for that natural-selection-created concept of Truth.
CJYman http://cjyman.blogspot.com
I leave with you these three quotes:
“If the whole universe has no meaning, we should never have found out that it has no meaning: just as, if there were no light in the universe and therefore no creatures with eyes, we should never know it was dark. Dark would be without meaning.”
–C. S. Lewis
“If the solar system was brought about by an accidental collision, then the appearance of organic life on this planet was also an accident, and the whole evolution of Man was an accident too. If so, then all our present thoughts are mere accidents – the accidental by-product of the movement of atoms. And this holds for the thoughts of the materialists and astronomers as well as for anyone else’s. But if their thoughts – i.e., of Materialism and Astronomy – are merely accidental by-products, why should we believe them to be true? I see no reason for believing that one accident should be able to give me a correct account of all the other accidents. It’s like expecting that the accidental shape taken by the splash when you upset a milk-jug should give you a correct account of how the jug was made and why it was upset.”
–C. S. Lewis
“The most incomprehensible thing about the universe is that it is comprehensible.â€
–Albert Einstein















Are these the actual stickers that went on the text books.
http://www.venganza.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=184416&highlight=#184416
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Nikky – I don’t know what made you think I was a cricket fan (bastards, bastards, buggering bastards). The press are saying that now the pressure is off we might play better (erm – sports, the winning of, the whole point etc)
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You might (coff, coff) be right about it being my last dig at Little Daffodil. A few people have mentioned my inability to “just let it go” and “it’s not important, why are you arguing” – a few people being most ex-girlfriends.
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@Dr Worm. Pissed up fundies over Xmas might be fun, fun, fun.
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@ Wench Nikky. Well first i suggest we form a committee to figure out which hole food goes in, like i said… me so hungry. Secondly, i believe it is important for anyone who cannot figure out how to start their car to set it on fire and yell at it until it works. It will probably only take us a few days to de-evolve into cavemen. When that happens starting our cars will be the least of our problems, we’re gonna have to figure out how to invent the wheel all over again. And all the Wenches better watch out. When me caveman and me get horny, me hit woman in head with big stick and drag back to hole in ground. Then we will need to worry about protecting ourselves… i suggest pointed sticks. They’re pointed…. and they’re sticks…. complicated for a caveman i know, but if we start production now we should have plenty of pointed sticks for the mammoths we will have to kill for food (although i still don’t know what to do with the food when i get it) Then i guess we should figure out some form of government. I guess we could all stand around and hit each other with mammoth bones and the last one standing is the new president. But before the de-evolution happens, and “me get so horny and hit girl with stick”, i would like to go ahead and ask Wench Nikky if she would like to be my “cave wench” until TLM gets back. I ask you this simply because your name sounds hot.
P.S. remember, pointed sticks don’t kill people, stupid cavemen kill people.
Dr. Worm
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@Dr. Worm
a few of your points remind me of the Boomer Bible, not sure if youve read this. It happens to be completley hiarious, so if you havent i suggest you check it out. I beleive it was printed sometime in the early 80’s
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@Dr. worm
Me not know which side of envelop stamp go on for send cards to friend. Me scared of white fluffy pieces of sky falling on head. Me scared of big man in red suit. Me no can deck halls. Me no can fa la la la la. Me hide in cave until Laugh Boy come help.
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what the bloody hell are you all talking about
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Hi Chap. Most of mine were about how Daffodil Boy (TLM) is a pustule on the arse of humanity. Nikky was taking the piss out of me over The Ashes (no doubt Jingles will join in too).
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The “me not know” stuff is also at Little Daffodil – without his guidance we are nothing!
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@Dr. Maglacy Dec 22nd, 2006 at 7:33 am
“Are these the actual stickers that went on the text books.
http://www.venganza.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=184416&highlight=#184416”
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Ha Ha, that was my post over on the forums! I’m KidDirty! But no, those are the joke stickers making fun of the real stickers!
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erm lost post?
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Huh?
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’twas a letter2ted post. ie have a look.
letter2ted.org
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CJYman: Way to say a whole lot of nuttin’. Good thing you cut-n-pasted some quotes from some famous people, because I was getting sick of your rambling. FSM IS the creator of all things (even you). May you be touched by his Noodly Goodness. Hey Nikkiee! How are you?
RAmen
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Hi Maxwell, Achemist, everyone :)
Just been over to Dawkins site reading about the two English professors who agree that the second law of thermodynamics proves evolution is wrong. hahahaha
Richard wrote a good response to their…um…support of YEC ‘theory’.
http://richarddawkins.net/article,453,The-Only-One-in-Step,Richard-Dawkins
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@Nick the Infidel Dec 22nd, 2006 at 1:09 pm
‘Ha Ha, that was my post over on the forums! I’m KidDirty! But no, those are the joke stickers making fun of the real stickers!’
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I saw those on the Discussion Board too and wondered about their authenticity. Let’s face it , it wouldn’t have been surprising if they were the real deal, would it!
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What? Sorry Nikky, I’m trying to convince my parents to get me an EOS 400D for consumermas. Will read the site. BTW do you ever sleep (grin)
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‘BTW do you ever sleep (grin)’
It’s just that all you bloody ‘let’s celebrate the winter solstice on Dec 25′ (in the middle of the Australian summer), have got all your clocks arse about face. It’s 8.30am here!
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By the way, does the Gospel of FSM mention the second law of thermodynamics?
The YECs/IDiots interpret it as one of their supporting arguments.
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Hahaha – It’s 2240 here and I’m doing some serious damage to my second six pack. My schizophrenic friend (no joke) has called me three times to wish me a happy xmas, I suspect he’s stoned.
I bloody well hate this time of year
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Ya, i dont think Einstein and C.S. Lewis new all too much about the flying spaghetti monster. just a thought. but i think it’s a perfectly logical for how excellent spaghetti tastes. mmm. i truly think so. hahaha. maybe my mommy is the spaghetti monster, thats why her spaghetti is the BEST IN THE WORLD!!! OMFG! I kno the spaghetti Monster! Shiznit Sizon
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@Nikky:
The IDiots? Hahahahaha. I have got to remember that ‘un.
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@ Nikky – you have a good one. If you weren’t 12000 km away I’d buy you a beer.
If you’d accept one from a pommie bastard ;)
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I’ve never heard of the Boomer Bible, maybe i’ll check it out
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Here’s an excellent example of quote mining which sounds good initially but in the end provides no actual evidence whatsoever.
http://www.citizenlink.org/FOSI/origins/A000001511.cfm
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Here is a poor excuse for journalism.
http://www.citizenlink.org/fnif/A000003463.cfm
And here is an excellent rebuttal by Ed Brayton. Rebuttal? or should I say a right spanking.
http://scienceblogs.com/dispatches/2006/12/creating_a_martyr_the_sternber.php
RAmen
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awaiting moderation, bugga
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Let’s see if this one goes through.
An article that claims to be unbiased and then jumps right into the anti-evolution rhetoric with a cherry on top that the mouthbreathers eat up with fervor.
http://www.taemag.com/issues/articleid.18132/article_detail.asp
Where’s my bucket…errp…
RAmen
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@Alchemist Dec 22nd, 2006 at 4:13 pm
“Hahaha – It’s 2240 here and I’m doing some serious damage to my second six pack. My schizophrenic friend (no joke) has called me three times to wish me a happy xmas, I suspect he’s stoned.
I bloody well hate this time of year”
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Dude, cherish your schizophrenic friends, normal friends can grow boring. I think I recently met a new one! Check out my story!
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http://www.venganza.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6986&highlight=
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@Peter Popoff
Reguarding these posts:
155 Wench Nikky Dec 20th, 2006 at 1:37 pm
‘He said the incubating eggs could hatch around Christmas.’
Another virgin birth at xmas? Aha..Flora, the Komodo Dragon is the new messiah!
His Noodleyness has gotten drunk again.
RAmen
156 Peter Popoff Dec 20th, 2006 at 1:49 pm
Hard to say about mary, I think she probably was a reptile of some sort? “Lot Lizard†comes to mind?
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Looks like someone else had the same idea. On the same day too! Us humour mongers all think alike.
http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/UnNews:Lizard_gives_birth_to_second_coming_of_Jesus
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I’m thinking this is even more evidence of the FSM. What imaginary god of the FSM nonbelievers would create a Komoto Dragon as the next mesiah….hmm?
All Hail Flora’s, as yet (?) unhatched egg, the new FSM mesiah.
Umm.. sorry that’s 8 eggs…
Hail the eight new FSM mesiahs.
ps according to uncylopedia, the xtians are already trying to claim the Komotos as their new mesiah (s). Typical!
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The Komodo Dragon’s tongue resembles his noodly appendages.
I think it’s a sign.
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Darn. It says that the skies will turn grey and water will fall to demolish the living bugs!!
What have we done?!
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@ Nick the Infidel Dec 23rd, 2006 at 12:10 am
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Hi Nick, just read your story on the discussion board. Thanks.
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My friend was diagnosed with schizophrenia in his first year at Uni. He was convinced that someone had drugged him and were trying to kill him. He is, allegedly, telepathic. No amount of reasoning will convince him otherwise. I was told to challenge him in this, unfortunately he’s a big lad who can get a bit ‘awkward’ so I tend not to.
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What you’ve done is fantastic but sometimes you have to put yourself first. Be extremely cautious with this woman – my friend was Sectioned a few months ago for demonstrating how to strangle someone on his young son’s friend. Thankfully no one was hurt.
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I’m no psychologist but counsellors etc. have to have their own counselling (supervision). There is good reason for that. Speaking as someone who has had a breakdown a few years ago, be very, very careful.
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Saying that, I think you are a shining example of humanity at it’s best.
RAmen
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Thanks dude. I just hope she got some help. I’m gonna call her soon.
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Good for you. Just be careful ok!
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Ba weep grana weep ninnybon
No seriously I wish I *could* understand where this person is coming from
:Wench Nikky:
“Umm.. sorry that’s 8 eggs…”
You mean +++ eggs right?
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Why is a christmas tree better than a man?
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It’s always erect, stays up for 12days and nights, has cute balls, and looks good with the lights on.
Happy Holiday
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Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha……………………:)
I just read through this whole thread. It’s hilarious and deliciously bent. It’s now bookmarked as one of my favourites.
RAmen everyone.
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@Alchemist
I came over to this thread post something for you reguarding, a leaked document and the “C” But after checking the score first, I figured you are probably already suffering enough….and no Daffodil to take it out on. (see I’m not that cruel ;). At least you’ll have your little dog to bitch to, console you and wipe your tears on.
With Sympathy
Nikky
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@Nikki.
Thanks Nikki, *sob, sob*, I do appreciate it *howl* :) When I went to bed you were 80 odd for five – at last, thinks I, a bit of fight. Ha. Got up this morning – Hayden and Symonds have gone on a rampage. I don’t bet but if I did my money would be on an innings defeat and an Aussie 5-0 series whitewash.
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I can’t see how the leaked report’s going to do anything. Englands’ bowling strategy my arse. Should be one sentence “learn how to bowl, numbnuts!”
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The rugby starts in Feb (six nations) – better make sure all sharp objects are out of sight. Daffodil did say he was coming back, right?
Catch you soon, you Aussie Wench :)
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Ima Love that one :-), ok if I steal that one?
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@Alchemist
“I can’t see how the leaked report’s going to do anything. Englands’ bowling strategy my arse. Should be one sentence “learn how to bowl, numbnuts!â€
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hahahaha…apparently they had it posted up on the wall in their toilet……hahahaha
RAmen
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@ Nikky—”I just read through this whole thread. It’s hilarious and deliciously bent.”
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Yes, it does capture the full spectrum of satire, doesn’t it? From the inane to the profound. From the humourless to the hilarious. And I would add marvelously warped in a Hunter S. Thompson sort of way as a comment of the state of modern society.
RAmen
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Nikky – you couldn’t make it up, could you? Do you think it was next to the special sign for english cricketers – you know the one?
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1) Wipe (using paper provided)
2) Repeat until paper fails to change colour
3) Replace trousers
4) Flush – repeat as necessary
5) Wash hands
6) Dry hands using paper towels – note NOT as in 1)
7) Are you sure about steps 1) through 5)
8) Really sure?
9) Don’t you think you should check?
10) You did remove trousers first I hope?
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No doubt they were too busy seeing if the water goes down the plug-hole in the opposite direction to pay attention to the sign. That’s why we’re – you get the idea? BTW did you ever do that exercise when you had to write a foolproof explanation for wiring a plug for someone with no previous experience. Bloody hard work. I feel so sorry for the bowling coach!
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Oh, and if there is a god I think I’ve got the proof now that he’s sitting on a beech in Queensland, zinc oxide over his schnoz and laughing like a loon at us :)
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hahahahahaha
‘I feel so sorry for the bowling coach!’
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I’d say he is already looking for a country (a non-cricketing one, I’d suppose!) to emigrate to.
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Alchemist, did you actually read the document? I haven’t looked at it yet, but I’m sure it will be funny if I understand any of it.
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@CJYman: You should never underestimate the power of stupidity. Apparrently some of our followers are too caught up in the religious aspect of this idea. I enjoy your definition of art, and will incorporate it with my own (should I say) phylosophies of life. I must give you a big RAmen.
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Nikky – I read the report on the bbc website. It didn’t come over as rocket science – it’s now being reported that it was found on the floor of the members bar?? Sounds like an excuse in the making to me. Then I got sidetracked with the Saddam Hussein thing
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‘…”I sacrifice myself. If God wills it, he will place me among the true men and martyrs,” the former leader wrote in the letter.’
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6212393.stm
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Martyrs eh, can’t live with them, can’t live, well, er, with them.
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@ Alchemist
I saw it on BBC America. Interesting the number of Iraqis queing up for the job of executioner. Is it possible to be your own martyr?
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Hi MJK. Yes, his reign does seem to have touched more than a few lives! As someone opposed to capital punishment I have to ask myself how I’d feel if my family had been Kurdish. I wonder how my philosophy would stand up to that? I have a horrible feeling that vengeance would win.
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