Excellent satire of the criticisms of religion and Intelligent Design … unless you guys actually think the creation of the FSM and its subsequent religion is a valid critique of religion and Intelligent Design in the form of satire or actual truth for that matter. In that case, try studying and understanding your “opponents†first before attacking. Or maybe this “religion†of the FSM is just a good case of showing that people will believe almost anything (assuming that your church members ACTUALLY believe the FSM to be true). Yet, I very highly doubt that people are QUITE that stupid. Given enough time, they should be eliminated by natural selection anyway.
However, both ways I do enjoy and appreciate the artistic work and creativity you have put into the FSM and its subsequent church. It, as well as the hate mail you receive, is truly hilarious.
It’s a good thing that artistic method isn’t restrained by the scientific method. The religion of the FSM is evidence that art is not restrained by logic.
As an aside, since art is allowed to be taught in school in the form of an art class, the religion of the FSM should be allowed in school as well. Drop me a line if you need help creating a case (I wish I were a lawyer).
Similarly, religion or philosophy would also be considered art if it did not attempt to validly explain the existence of good and evil, reason, and other enigmas of the “human condition.†Art attempts to depict; religion, science, and philosophy attempt to explain in a valid manner.
Nevertheless, I can see how the religion of the FSM could attempt to explore the very concept of validity and its relation to truth. However, in this case, it should also attempt to be more valid itself and satirically examine or disprove science as well in order to be more encompassing and relative in addressing validity, in my humble opinion.
Or the creation of FSM and its religion may be just a load of quasi-artistic BS, in accordance with all gods written in history who were included within and were a part of the universe and describable as natural objects. re: ra (sun-god), poseidon (god of the sea), fsm (flying chunk of spaghetti and meatballs) “may his appendages be honoredâ€
Regardless of the psychology or validity behind the FSM, thank you for the humor, and good luck in continuing to intelligently or not so intelligently (whichever the case may be) evolve the FSM and its religion.
May your God given or unguided evolutionary given ability for creativity and the FSM’s noodly appendage guide you in your never ending search for that natural-selection-created concept of Truth.
CJYman http://cjyman.blogspot.com
I leave with you these three quotes:
“If the whole universe has no meaning, we should never have found out that it has no meaning: just as, if there were no light in the universe and therefore no creatures with eyes, we should never know it was dark. Dark would be without meaning.”
–C. S. Lewis
“If the solar system was brought about by an accidental collision, then the appearance of organic life on this planet was also an accident, and the whole evolution of Man was an accident too. If so, then all our present thoughts are mere accidents – the accidental by-product of the movement of atoms. And this holds for the thoughts of the materialists and astronomers as well as for anyone else’s. But if their thoughts – i.e., of Materialism and Astronomy – are merely accidental by-products, why should we believe them to be true? I see no reason for believing that one accident should be able to give me a correct account of all the other accidents. It’s like expecting that the accidental shape taken by the splash when you upset a milk-jug should give you a correct account of how the jug was made and why it was upset.”
–C. S. Lewis
“The most incomprehensible thing about the universe is that it is comprehensible.â€
–Albert Einstein
Ah, yes. Some people we lucky and were born with a silver spoon in their mouth. All I got was my own sweaty foot :)
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were not we
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@ Peter Popoff—”So all this time, I’ve been lied too? There is no FSM?”
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Shhh, don’t tell the UnLaughingBoy, he might just get full of himself.
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Kev’s Xmas Greeting! free download
‘Santa Claus was going to town’
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http://www.kevinbloodywilson.com/site/animations/xmas.htm
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Thanks Nik, I knew I’d heard it somewhere.
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‘Santa Claus was going to town’
hahahahaha
Yes, our Kev’s isn’t known for his subtlety.
RAmen
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By the way, guys, don’t forget man’s best friend over Holiday, will you? They have a lot to deal with too, you know.
DESCENT OF DOG
By Murray Brozinsky
http://www.scq.ubc.ca/?p=613
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Well, that’s me linked out for the morning. Catch you all later.
RAmen
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Have a good one Nikky :)
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@Mad John Kidd Dec 20th, 2006 at 2:49 pm
‘Remind me never to get on your bad side. :)’
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Aww…c’mon Mad John, I got some of dem dere xtian principles. I believe ‘Do unto others, as you would have dem do to you’ and ‘Ask and thou shalt receive’
RAmen
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@ Nik
Well, in that case, give it to me baby!
RAmen
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I just signed the guest book at ‘objective ministries’. My, they do get a lot of hateful comments from humanists/seculists and evilutionists there.
hahahahahahahahaha
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@ Nik
‘Well, in that case, give it to me baby!’
No, only for the fundies who come to the CoFSM with those same xtian principles.
RAmen
ps I didn’t miss anything there! :)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Behind:_Eternal_Forces
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Left behind post rapture? Wondering what to do for a good night out?
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Here’s the answer: Left Behind!
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Convert your enemies with guns!
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Recruit fellow citizens, train them to be soldiers, builders, doctors, evangelists or musicians! Unless they’re women (who are only fit for doctoring and music)!
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Kill, and pray.
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Out just in time for christmas!
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Thanks Jingles
Complaints about the game on the wiki.
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“Muddied religious message”
Some Christian speakers have called the multiplayer feature, allowing gamers to play from the perspective of the Antichrist’s forces, into question. Detractors have suggested this feature takes away from the stated inspirational goal of Left Behind Games by making the forces seem equally matched or encouraging violent, anti-Christian roleplay.
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Oh dear, shows just how nasty/sad/sick these people are all round!
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@ Jingles
I like how they claim that it is no more violent than the old testament. Well, that certainly makes it okay then. As long as they have god’s permission.
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@ Nikki
I posted a link to an article on the HAR1 sequence by Carl Zimmer on the KS Board thread that you might be interested to read.
RAmen
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I’ve got a whole book that reads like that post, and I can’t get through a page of it. “The Universal Unified Field Law”, by A.D.Sarantites, published by Universal Science Foundation, 1963. It hurts by brain to try to read it. It takes a certain mind to write these types of things.
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Hey, I just googled this book and its worth at least $1000. I guess this type of stuff does have some value.
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I took a qick look at it just after you posted it. I save it for later on (ron) I don’t want to visit too many serious sites today. I got the link though, thanks.
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@Mad John
Just had a glance over that article. Looks very interesting. I think I might download the paper itself from from the Nature Journal.
Thanks
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@ Wenchy
Glad to be of service ;)
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I believe. Our heaven has a beer volcano. Must my life here on earth end in order to experience this sublime beer lava oozing from the noodly appendages which so gently pour the beer into icy cold glasss.
Yes, Virginia, there is a heavan. And it overflows wih milk and Victory Hop Devil. You just gotta believe…..
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nikky, thank you for the link to that wonderfull site, i’m still laughing.
Jingles: that was my favorite too, they really don’t teach these kids to properly check any arguments, or even using brains for independent thought, do they?
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@Jingles:
Thanks for the link (I think). The only good thing I can think of in regard to these games is that they reveal exactly what the fundys think.
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At least with this game they are being honest. I’ve always believed that the Ku Klux Klan was the most honest modern christian organization, displaying the values that are the heart and soul of the christian christian religion.
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Christian dominionism is anything but harmless. These people are a clear and present danger to any form of civilized society.
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@Nikky:
Thanks for the ‘Descent of Dog’ link. Now I’ll think of unintelligent design whenever I walk through a San Francisco park.
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Just been doing a bit more exploring around Objective Ministeries. That site is a real treasure hunt with lots of real treasure buried there. Did anyone check out :
‘Zounds Youth Rock Ministry’
http://objectiveministries.org/zounds/
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Click on the F.A.Q
Isn’t there another band called Zounds?
We have recently learned that a group of British anarchists from the
1970s had formed a punk-rock band called Zounds. (Their website can be
found here, but beware of offensive content.)
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and this is the link
http://www.zoundsonline.co.uk/hahn.html
RAmen
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@Wench Nikky Dec 21st, 2006 at 2:10 am
I DID IT AGAIN! Set off ‘Your comment is awaiting moderation’ ! !
Just been doing a bit more exploring around Objective Ministeries. That site is a real treasure hunt with lots of real treasure buried there. Did anyone check out :
‘Zounds Youth Rock Ministry’
http://objectiveministries.org/zounds/
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Click on the F.A.Q
Isn’t there another band called Zounds?
We have recently learned that a group of British anarchists from the
1970s had formed a punk-rock band called Zounds. (Their website can be
found here, but beware of offensive content.)
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and this is the link
http://www.zoundsonline.co.uk/
RAmen
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Wench Nikky Dec 21st, 2006 at 2:10 am
I DID IT AGAIN! Twice now !! Set off ‘Your comment is awaiting moderation’ !!!
3rd time lucky :) maybe
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Just been doing a bit more exploring around Objective Ministeries. That site is a real treasure hunt with lots of real treasure buried there. Did anyone check out :
‘Zounds Youth Rock Ministry’
http://www.objectiveministries.org/zounds/
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Click on the F.A.Q
Isn’t there another band called Zounds?
We have recently learned that a group of British anarchists from the
1970s had formed a punk-rock band called Zounds. (Their website can be
found here, but beware of offensive content.)
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and this is the link
http://www.zoundsonline.co.uk/
RAmen
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Wench Nikky Dec 21st, 2006 at 2:21 am
Wench Nikky Dec 21st, 2006 at 2:10 am
I DID IT AGAIN! Twice now !! Set off ‘Your comment is awaiting moderation’ !!!
3rd time lucky :) maybe
NO NO this site still doesn’t like my links! In a few days all 3 past tries will no doubt come up. Sorry about that. I’ll just put the addresses in this time.
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Just been doing a bit more exploring around Objective Ministeries. That site is a real treasure hunt with lots of real treasure buried there. Did anyone check out :
‘Zounds Youth Rock Ministry’
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http://www.objectiveministries.org/zounds/
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Click on the F.A.Q
Isn’t there another band called Zounds?
We have recently learned that a group of British anarchists from the
1970s had formed a punk-rock band called Zounds. (Their website can be
found here, but beware of offensive content.)
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and this is the address
http://www.zoundsonline.co.uk/
RAmen
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OK, from past experience and now this little episode, it would appear that the server doesn’t like the “http//:”on the links….sometimes!
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@FCC.. It’s kinda scary, but also ridiculously hilarious. Hell, the thing that got me really laughing at that game was the fact that your main enemies are the “Peacekeepers”. .
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Makes you think, doesn’t it?
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What’s more, if you go to the official webpage, there is a complete list of characters and units. We athiests get cool units like secularists, demons and rockstars, (and what appears to be the pope… go figure).
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They get missionaries, and singers that look like the wholesome, nerdy cousin of the BeeGees.
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So far, I know which side I’m supporting…
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What a priceless day on the boards and around the net. It just keeps getting better and better. :)
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‘Now we know how to make the IDists dance in their petticoats: blaspheme.’
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2006/12/now_we_know_how_to_make_the_id.php
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Ah…I see Jingles has already seen that. :)
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http://www.cnn.com/2006/EDUCATION/12/19/teaching.evolution.ap/index.html
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stop the world. i want off
http://www.cnn.com/2006/EDUCATION/12/19/teaching.evolution.ap/index.html
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sorry about the double post.. i obviously dont know what im doing.
this however worries me, putting a disclaimer on textbooks.
what will they try next?
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@Wench Nikky
“Ah…I see Jingles has already seen that. :)”
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Ummm… what?
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Email from Dembski, on Dawkins site, reguarding the the Blasphemy challenge.
You know!
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Hello Chaps!
Just wanted to know what the FSM’s position on dinosaurs is? I ask, as this is generally the point in which every religion formulated thus far comes un-stuck!
Cheers
Aaron
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@StickerShock
I was just reading about that on a site yesterday. Good to see that article you posted.
Another one of the insidious little exercises in IDiot propaganda and underhanded tactics bites the dust.
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@English Bloke
I’m pretty sure the FSM made some dinosaurs. Maybe one of our expert theologians will post on that. Jingles, do you know anything about FSMs dinosaurs?
RAmen
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This is the funniest thing I’ve EVER seen/heard on the net. I’m literally crying with laughter. Oh, it’s good for the soul : http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7986664699953384686
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@English Bloke
I know who won the Ashes, if that is any help?
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@moochie
Is it the same guy in all those clips down the side on that page. Just that it looks like him, but he has different clothes on in each one. Maybe that is how he gets bums on seats for sermons?
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I think that dinosaurs came over on the Pirate Ship — the LEMON YELLOW pirate ship, just like all of the animals, two by two.
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@Nikkiee… I’ve honestly never seen that before in my life.
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@English Bloke… The dinosaurs where originally taken aoard the pirate ships as party animals… the hilarity of watching a drunken brachiosaur trying to stand up cannot be overestimated, and I couldn’t even begin to touch upon the bacchanalian delight of watching a Deinchyosaurus (sp?) try and drink from a barrel of rum.
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As such, they were spread around the world by the pirates on the travels, leading to the numerous fossils across the world, with the FSM modifying them to suit whatever environ they decided to settle in.
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Everything was going fine, until one day… the penguins arrived. Led by the original penguin, he who was once a midgit (spelling intentional), they declared war on the pirates, for they were jealous of these decendants of the dwarfs, who got all the really hot strippers.
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Unfortunately, at this stage, it being a friday, the pirates were too drunk to defend themselves, capable only of slurring their words, laughing a lot, and stumbling into each other. So, up stepped the valiant dinosaurs, to defend their piratical booze suppliers.
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It was a titanic battle, meatballs and snowballs filling the air, the vicious awking of the penguins all but drowning out the drunken yo-hoing of the pirates. On that day, many a dinosaur was sent to the great beer volcanoes in the sky, and many a penguin was assigned to swabbing the stripper factory for all eternity.
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When the dust finally settled, the penguins had been repulsed, but at a horrible cost. Every last dinosaur had been fatally wounded. Shedding a tear for his wayward creations, the mighty FSM descended from the heavens.
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Unto the assembled pirates, he spake
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“They Have given Their Lives For You, And So, You Shall Never Forget Their Sacrifice! To Remind You, And Your Children, And Theirs, And So On And Suchforth Throughout All Eternity, I Shall Turn Their Bones Into Everlasting Stone, Even As Their Souls Join With Me In Partaking Of The Beer Volcanoes. Never Forget!”
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And with that final admonishment, he rose back into the heavens, where he and the dinosaurs revel in drunken glory to this very day.
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No, Wench Nikky, there are three or four different preachers. Here’s another guy, almost as funny as the first. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3169960823229221817
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pffffffft! Praise the lord.
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I have a couple of things to say. First of all, i finished getting my last degree about exactly one year ago, and since then have vowed to never again read anything with big words. So needless to say i only read the first three sentences of the original post.
@Dr. C. McSomething, i too have spent my accademic career studying psychology. I have even been unfortunate enough to spend my fair share of time paying my dues in a state run psychiatric hospital (Patrick B. Harris Psych Hospital in SC)and as such have seen every sort of mental illness ever diagnosed. It was a well known fact in all the lodges in the hospital (we called “wings” “lodges”, i guess it was more soothing, i dont know) that the hardest patients to deal with are patients with personality disorders. The Laughing Man seems to show signs of mild Narcisistic Personality Disorder (not sure if i spelled that right, i’m too lazy to use spell check). Anyway, he is only 17 and believes himself to be smarter than all of us, and when he stops getting attention on his thread he invades the threads of others. He is constantly a pain in the ass because negative attention is better than no attention in his eyes. Also, unrelated to his personality disorder, you have to factor in the fact that immature little kids will say anything to anybody online because they know there will be no retribution. My hypothesis is that he has no backbone and would not be nearly as rude or insolent face to face for fear of having said face broken. Anyway, it is impossible to make an online diagnosis, but so far he seems to be a nice fit for Narcisistic Personality Disorder.
@laughing man. People have two choices…. either laugh, love, make friends and enjoy life while you have it…. or be a jackass. In your infinate 17 year old wisdom you seem to have chosen the latter of the two. Good luck with that.
RAmen
Dr.Worm
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I used to live with a couple of Indian psychologists who used to accuse me of being a narcissist, but then they also used to accuse me of being an inbred, racist and jewish.
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Of course, they would say that, as they are jealous of my obvious good looks, intelligence and racial superiority due to years of select in-family breeding. (hahaha)
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@Captain Noodulous Silicate TBHNA
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Arrrr! Thanks t’yee kindly, good sir! I’m jest a servant of the noodly appendage tryin’ to touch all those with good taste. I s’pose I can babble as incoherently as the rest of ‘em given the chance.
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R’amen!
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