Excellent satire of the criticisms of religion and Intelligent Design … unless you guys actually think the creation of the FSM and its subsequent religion is a valid critique of religion and Intelligent Design in the form of satire or actual truth for that matter. In that case, try studying and understanding your “opponents†first before attacking. Or maybe this “religion†of the FSM is just a good case of showing that people will believe almost anything (assuming that your church members ACTUALLY believe the FSM to be true). Yet, I very highly doubt that people are QUITE that stupid. Given enough time, they should be eliminated by natural selection anyway.
However, both ways I do enjoy and appreciate the artistic work and creativity you have put into the FSM and its subsequent church. It, as well as the hate mail you receive, is truly hilarious.
It’s a good thing that artistic method isn’t restrained by the scientific method. The religion of the FSM is evidence that art is not restrained by logic.
As an aside, since art is allowed to be taught in school in the form of an art class, the religion of the FSM should be allowed in school as well. Drop me a line if you need help creating a case (I wish I were a lawyer).
Similarly, religion or philosophy would also be considered art if it did not attempt to validly explain the existence of good and evil, reason, and other enigmas of the “human condition.†Art attempts to depict; religion, science, and philosophy attempt to explain in a valid manner.
Nevertheless, I can see how the religion of the FSM could attempt to explore the very concept of validity and its relation to truth. However, in this case, it should also attempt to be more valid itself and satirically examine or disprove science as well in order to be more encompassing and relative in addressing validity, in my humble opinion.
Or the creation of FSM and its religion may be just a load of quasi-artistic BS, in accordance with all gods written in history who were included within and were a part of the universe and describable as natural objects. re: ra (sun-god), poseidon (god of the sea), fsm (flying chunk of spaghetti and meatballs) “may his appendages be honoredâ€
Regardless of the psychology or validity behind the FSM, thank you for the humor, and good luck in continuing to intelligently or not so intelligently (whichever the case may be) evolve the FSM and its religion.
May your God given or unguided evolutionary given ability for creativity and the FSM’s noodly appendage guide you in your never ending search for that natural-selection-created concept of Truth.
CJYman http://cjyman.blogspot.com
I leave with you these three quotes:
“If the whole universe has no meaning, we should never have found out that it has no meaning: just as, if there were no light in the universe and therefore no creatures with eyes, we should never know it was dark. Dark would be without meaning.”
–C. S. Lewis
“If the solar system was brought about by an accidental collision, then the appearance of organic life on this planet was also an accident, and the whole evolution of Man was an accident too. If so, then all our present thoughts are mere accidents – the accidental by-product of the movement of atoms. And this holds for the thoughts of the materialists and astronomers as well as for anyone else’s. But if their thoughts – i.e., of Materialism and Astronomy – are merely accidental by-products, why should we believe them to be true? I see no reason for believing that one accident should be able to give me a correct account of all the other accidents. It’s like expecting that the accidental shape taken by the splash when you upset a milk-jug should give you a correct account of how the jug was made and why it was upset.”
–C. S. Lewis
“The most incomprehensible thing about the universe is that it is comprehensible.â€
–Albert Einstein
There is some interesting (infuriating) stuff at that ‘creation science’ education site. Also includes information about which retailers/businesses (Target) are linked to Satan. All intentionally directed at kids. I really can’t find words to describe these leeches. (offense to wild-type leeches unintentional)
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OBJECTIVE: Creation Education
With Dr. Richard Paley
http://objectiveministries.org/creation/
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Dawkins Watch
With Commentary by Dr. Richard Paley
http://objectiveministries.org/creation/dawkinswatch.html
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“Articles On Evolutionism” (These are also listed on my main page.)
Those Wacky Evolutionists!
Evolutionist Shenanigans & Assorted Darwinalia With Commentary by Dr. Richard Paley
–Evolutionism Propaganda:
Examples of how Evolutionists spread their false doctrines using PBS, children’s programming, and the Apple Macintosh.
–”Aquatic Ape Theory”:
Evolutionists sink to new lows, leagues under the sea.
–The Eye:
Complicated and purposefully designed. Could random mutations really do that?
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This site has everything!!! (warning: Do not eat just prior to visiting)
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@Wench Nikky Dec 20th, 2006 at 12:55 pm
Arrgh…..’awaiting moderation’ again (why does posting some links, but not others, induce this?) Repost with modified links:
There is some interesting (infuriating) stuff at that ‘creation science’ education site. Also includes information about which retailers/businesses (Target) are linked to Satan. All intentionally directed at kids. I really can’t find words to describe these leeches. (offense to wild-type leeches unintentional)
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OBJECTIVE: Creation Education
With Dr. Richard Paley
objectiveministries.org/creation/
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Dawkins Watch
With Commentary by Dr. Richard Paley
objectiveministries.org/creation/dawkinswatch.html
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“Articles On Evolutionism†(These are also listed on my main page.)
Those Wacky Evolutionists!
Evolutionist Shenanigans & Assorted Darwinalia With Commentary by Dr. Richard Paley
–Evolutionism Propaganda:
Examples of how Evolutionists spread their false doctrines using PBS, children’s programming, and the Apple Macintosh.
–â€Aquatic Ape Theoryâ€:
Evolutionists sink to new lows, leagues under the sea.
–The Eye:
Complicated and purposefully designed. Could random mutations really do that?
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This site has everything!!! (warning: Do not eat just prior to visiting)
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@Peter Popoff Dec 20th, 2006 at 10:51 am
‘Thanks Nikkiee. That entire website rocks! Just what I needed to kick off a new day!.
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Yeah, it is a good site Peter. Bobby’s ‘Open Letter’ is in the archives there as well. This one is a gem:
OF PENGUINS AND PASTA By Toby Leonard
(Evidence for FSM)
http://www.scq.ubc.ca/?p=233
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We’re all in trouble now… Look out Kanas…
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/12/20/uk.komodo.reut/index.html
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You think Mary could have been part Komodo Dragon, or at least some sort of lizard?
Another thing I’ve always wondered about: How did they see, and collect all of those microscopic organisms when they were loading up the Ark?
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‘He said the incubating eggs could hatch around Christmas.’
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Another virgin birth at xmas? Aha..Flora, the Komodo Dragon is the new messiah!
His Noodleyness has gotten drunk again.
RAmen
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Hard to say about mary, I think she probably was a reptile of some sort? “Lot Lizard” comes to mind?
As far as the seeing thing… I think like we have 20/20 vision, Those old folks probably had like… 40/40 vision? Or something of the like? I’m just speculating of course.
Ramen
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@C.S. Lewis :Dec 18th, 2006 at 7:28 pm “Yes, leave quotes by an opium-addled pedophile to logically prove the existence of god.”
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Sorry .. quick flash-back (yes, I do have the munchies, since you ask. Is it ok to sacrifice a bar of chocolate?) Anyway .. I think C.S.Lewis (the poster) might have got his namesake muddled up with Lewis Carroll. Also, Lewis Carroll was probably not the deviant popularly supposed (see Wikipedia). Plus he was a far better writer than C.S.Lewis (the original). Therefore, God exists. No .. that can’t be right.
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“…allowing them to microevolve antibiotic resistance. Escherichia coli bacteria…”
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OH MY SCIENCE! THE EVIL CHRISTIANS ARE TRYING TO KILL US ALL WITH DRUG RESISTANT E.COLI!
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Seriously, what the hell? What would you think if it instead read “Student X and Student Y (grades ten & eleven) did a project showing how the power of prayer can weaponize a typical strain of anthrax, increasing its capability to kill infidels by over one thousand times.”
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@moochie
‘Plus he was a far better writer than C.S.Lewis (the original). Therefore, God exists. No .. that can’t be right.’
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hahahahaha
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I came across this comment, reguarding ‘objectiveministries’. There wasn’t much else at the site to go with it.
“I don’t normally point at “weird stuff on the Net†but after visiting a few pages of Objective: Christian Ministries I honestly can’t figure out whether they’re for real, or a side project by The Onion staff. I particularly gasp at the Creation Science Fair from which the title of this note is taken. Thanks to Tim Romano for the pointer. [Update: Several people have written me that this is a parody, but nobody has really provided much solid evidence. But the more I look at it, the more I conclude that it just has to be, based only on the language.]”
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2003/08/16/ObjectiveC
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Could ‘Objective: Christian Ministries’ be a side project by The Onion staff?
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The world is a scary place. Thank his Noodly Goodness that my bomb shelter is almost complete. How long is it before radiation dissipates from the ambient air?
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Creationism takes another hit in the nose:
http://www.au.org/site/News2?abbr=pr&page=NewsArticle&id=8797&security=1002&news_iv_ctrl=1241
Praise His Noodliness
RAmen
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I think that the Science Creative Quarterly (motto: in which, with respect to our name, we are as confused as you are) is a very funny parody. Thanks!
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Just read the rodents / arc one. Is that for real? If so do you think the SPCA knows about it? I don’t know US law (and don’t want to get into an animal rights debate) but surely ….?
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I have no doubt that Science Creative Quarterly is a parody, but if you look at where the creationist science fair thing came from at the bottom of the article, you’ll see that it came from Christian Ministries. The Christian Ministries website is either a very dry bit of satire of they’re a real organisation headed by a serial liar.
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Re-Oared
What about the ‘objectiveministries’ site?
http://objectiveministries.org/creation/wackyevolutionists.html
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The Creationist mantra: “Let us stagnate as one.”
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I pray to FSM that it’s a parody.
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PLEASE FSM, make it a parody, I don’t want to have to go to bed tonight knowing that I’m of the same specie as the fucktard that writes that bollocks, who thinks that he has any insight in any way in any area of human thought, who’s ideas could be picked apart by a child and who I suspect, deliberately misunderstands things so that he can tell the flock just how misguided the evil-utionists are.
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Nobody can the that stupid and dishonest. Please.
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Oh hell fire, you’re right Beastly Rich and thanks for the link Nikky.
“Pterosaurs, including the ancestors of pterodactyls (middle left) and rhamphorhynchi (middle right), lived peacefully with Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. (Artistic reconstruction by Peggy Miller.)” http://objectiveministries.org/creation/pterosaurs.html
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Although I don’t see how the human race reproduced as the Pterosaur seems to have made off with Adams ding-a-ling :)
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“Science Creative Quarterly”…”objective ministries”? Scary stuff. Are you really that bored to tears Nikki, or are you just that fed up with the fundies? Remind me never to get on your bad side. :)
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oh it is a parody, they have a link to the landover baptist church, which I know for a fact is a joke. Thank god for that!
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Oh no, I misread it, they want to SHUT DOWN the landover baptist church.
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This is obscene. http://objectiveministries.org/shutdown/
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Here is objective minitries ‘Sign the Prayer Book’ link
http://htmlgear.tripod.com/guest/control.guest?u=objectiveministries&i=2&a=view
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I am still not sure though. The whole site is so….well so realistic.
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@nikky Yeah, I’m not seeing much in the way of clues.
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@Mad John Kidd Dec 20th, 2006 at 2:24 pm
Creationism takes another hit in the nose:
http://www.au.org/site/News2?abbr=pr&page=NewsArticle&id=8797&security=1002&news_iv_ctrl=1241
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Yes hooray for that. The domino effect, is hopefully kicking in.
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@Mad John Kidd
Mad John Kidd Dec 20th, 2006 at 2:49 pm
“Science Creative Quarterlyâ€â€¦â€objective ministriesâ€? Scary stuff. Are you really that bored to tears Nikki”
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hahahahaha
’twas the ‘Evidence for FSM’ at scq that led me on that little journey. One link just led to another, you know how it is ;)
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Beastly Rich Dec 20th, 2006 at 2:50 pm
oh it is a parody, they have a link to the landover baptist church, which I know for a fact is a joke. Thank god for that!
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Oh no, I misread it, they want to SHUT DOWN the landover baptist church.
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This is obscene. http://objectiveministries.org/shutdown/
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It made me laugh, it made me cry. Mostly just laughed though… hahahahaha
Ramen
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With a ’spiritual warrior cat’ called Milton, owned by Dr Troy Franklin “.. a doctor of Demonology” and ‘Lambuel’ converting Buzz Lightyear (I think). I hope it is a parody. Unfortunately I don’t think it is.
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@Beastly Rich
‘Oh no, I misread it, they want to SHUT DOWN the landover baptist church.’
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Why, on earth would they want to shut down Landover?
http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news1206/jesusruins.html
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Don’t hold your breath, mates. We may have won the battle but the war is still on:
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2006/10/hugh_rosss_testable_scientific.php
RAmen
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Know your enemy:
http://www.godlessgeeks.com/LINKS/GodProof.htm
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I love the landover, but not enough to forsake FSM.
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@Nik—”One link just lead to another, you know how that is ;)”
Yes, I’m afraid I do.
RAmen
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I love Landover too. I have one of their t-shirts that sports my favorite bible quote: “Behold, I will corrupt your seed and spread dung upon your facesâ€. The most disturbing thing about Objective Ministries is that no one can tell if it’s fake.
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The guys who started Landover got kicked out of Bob Jones University, so they know the fundy thing from the inside and very well, and their site shows it.
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Loved the pic of Santa: (warning: do not let the kids see this!)
http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news1206/santacritical.html
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@ Fr. CC
I especially liked the back to school gear: Landover Baptist Gun Club…Creation Science Club…Dept. of Demonology…Book Burning Club, etc. Welcome to Iowa!
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Who said xmas is no fun for atheists or FSM worshippers?
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@ Nikki
Being an Aussie, I’m sure you’ve heard Kevin Bloody Wilson’s “Santa Claus is Going to Town.”
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Objective ministries does seem to be a parody. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OBJECTIVE:_Ministries
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Bloody good one. Had me fooled.
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Where’s me F**k’n bike, you mean?
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“…I’ve unwrapped all this other junk and there’s nothing that I like.
I wrote you a f**king letter and I come to see you twice
Ya worn out geriatric fart, you forgot me f*cking bike……”
http://www.songlyrics.com/song-lyrics/Kevin_Bloody_Wilson/Miscellaneous/Christmas_Song/61379.html
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ahhh, that’s a relief. I should have known really but these people have a history of producting madmen
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@Alchemist Dec 20th, 2006 at 3:58 pm
‘Objective ministries does seem to be a parody. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OBJECTIVE:_Ministries‘
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No Alchemist, the anti-christians wrote that wiki. ;)
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ha ha. I don’t know if I would have trusted it even if they said it wasn’t.
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@ Wenchy
I thought that was the title of a track on Kev’s Kristmas Album but I didn’t see it. It is part of the chorus but I don’t know the title. Is “Santa Claus was going to town” part of “Where’s me F***’n Bike? He’s got so many albums.
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Thank for the link but the effing bike song not the one I was thinking of. Can’t find it on his website.
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Well, I am completely confused now (not difficult to do). I love their T shirts from CafePress.
http://www.cafepress.com/objectivemin/
Jesus is the light, turn him on. haha
It’s either the best piss take I’ve seen (too good?) or …
I choose piss take
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Mad John, I was just thinking after I posted, that the ‘Santa…to town’ is a different song. I’ll have to see if I can find the lyrics somewhere.
We have a radio station here that plays all these types of songs over xmas, instead of the painful ‘over and over again’ carols. I tuned into it last year, (meant to make a list of some of the stuff they were playing…but didn’t :( ) and I can tell you, it was an FSM send. Must tune in today. The station prides themselves on finding/playing some obscure and really funny stuff.
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@Alchemist Dec 20th, 2006 at 4:23 pm
‘Well, I am completely confused now (not difficult to do).’
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Apparently a lot of xtians, from other church brands, inadvertantly find their way to that site. While I’d prefer that they join the CoFSM, I’m not one to discourage those seeking the salvation of Objective Ministries. :)
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The really scary thing, Nikky, is that I checked the edits on Wiki and ran a WHOIS search :). This site (CoFSM) has opened my eyes so wide that I really could believe Xtian Fundies could come up with something like that.
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Thankfully the joke’s on me.
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Hey Alchemist, I had to do a little reseach and follow a few links too.
Those creationsists are scary. Say no more. Wouldn’t want to spoil all the fun for the fundies who may be considering a brand switch. (on the basis that their own church may be getting a little too liberal)
RAmen
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So all this time, I’ve been lied too? There is no FSM?
Crap! There is beer anyway, I can attest to that!
Burp!
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