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Holiday Greetings! A coworker and I were busy at work in our laboratory, when we sensed a presence. We looked up and saw Him! RAmen. He was missing only one, two actually, things to complete the visage. Those were procured later, thru piracey, of a tree in the lobby representing another religion that shares this happy time of year. We know you will see it too.
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An elaborate spoof on Intelligent Design, The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is neither too elaborate nor too spoofy to succeed in nailing the fallacies of ID. It's even wackier than Jonathan Swift's suggestion that the Irish eat their children as a way to keep them from being a burden, and it may offend just as many people, but Henderson, described elsewhere as a 25-year-old "out-of-work physics major," puts satire to the same serious use that Swift did. Oh, yes, it is very funny. -- Scientific American
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Holy Noodles!
Praise the FSM!
Nice pirating :)
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‘Tis a sign from his Noodliness!
RAmen
AWTG
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It is proof that the Flying Spaghetti Monster is omnipresent and omniscient. (Don’t ask me what those words mean, but they sounded good.) Praised be His noodly name!!
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A SIGN! You should try to sell this relic on Ebay like that piece of toast that looked like Jesus!
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hez uz guyz thoghts i wers deaud but imz nots amz iz
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haha ah!!
uho i goo poopie agun
fsm sukz i amz smartser then yous
DUuuuuutrrrrrr
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Sux muh ballz
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who is this jimbo jones guy
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A troll I strongly suspect.
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so true
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poor man/woman s/he has obviously not been touched by His noodly appendage. I truely feel sorry for you jimbo and hope that He will find it in his heart of tomato sauce to forgive you. RAmen
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fux you basturds al fuk all yourz motherz in 69 da asz cum in the69iz thei6r9 mouth 666
all hail69z my ballz ass pussy fuck 669
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But on a happier note… OMG!!!! (or should that me OMFSM?)… yes… from now on “OMG” (representing oh my god) will be replaced by myself to “OMFSM”. have a guess what that stands for :)
anyways, OMFSM! he truely loves us for lo, a sign of his love, he has made this plant into a (non-noodly) image of Himself! i have seen another sign too, although no picture. I was staring at a plate of tomato soup (homemade and lumpy) when i squinted my eyes and turned my head to the left and there i saw something that looked a bit like FSM!!! therfore He exists! blessed be He who lays his pasta upon us.
RAmen
eggy
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poor, poor man…
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@jimbo Jones
you can stop acting now. nobody is fooled.
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jo 4r3 l\l0t L337. 4l\lD I w1ll sl\/l1t3 jo b3cu4s3 jo 4r3 l\l0t L337.
PH34R!!!!!!!!
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oh, sorry, in case ya didn’t know, that was directed at jimbo up there.
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And we have seen him too!! RAmen! Now that he has appeared to us the christians can never claim that he doesn’t exist. Jesus Christers! You have been warned!
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I think Jimbo Jones is kind of sweet. Dumb but sweet
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L’TUAE_42– The sad thing is I could read most of that…
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@Fr. Corpus Callosum Dec 18th, 2006 at 9:07 pm
‘I think Jimbo Jones is kind of sweet. Dumb but sweet’
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Just don’t mention the ‘z’s FCC, hez do znot likz itz
RAmen
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I think Jimbo is probably TLM’s little brother. While TLM is out burning ants with his magnifying glass in the name of Jesus, Jimbo sneaks into his room, sneaks peaks at porn and posts to us.
RAmen
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I think Jimbo Jones is TLM. I think the name Jimbo Jones is a reference to his “RUN!!!!!!” email where he likens Bobby Henderson to the cult leader Jim Jones. Either way he doesn’t contribute anything of value to this site and thus I ignore all of his posts, as I do all other posts that use insults and profanity as arguments. People only resort to insults once they have run out of valid and worthwhile arguments. It is a less funny and less interesting version of the “my dad is bigger than your dad” defence.
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@Coleoptera
‘People only resort to insults once they have run out of valid and worthwhile arguments.’
You mean like Dembski, with this little childish production?
http://richarddawkins.net/articleComments,428,Christmas-Present-to-Defenders-of-Darwinism,William-A-Dembski,page1,commentReceived#comments
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Wench Nikky:
That link really cute in a nasty sort of way.
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Addressing the broader issue, which seems to be rational argument vs. insults, I reached the conclusion several years ago that there isn’t much point in discussing anything with the ID types, and certainly no sense in engaging them in ‘intellectual’ debate, simply because that debate is impossible. Their goal has never been reasonable debate. Their goal is to sneak, lie, and bully, while talking about fairness and openness, until they get the chance to bully us all with their god crap. Then there won’t be any talk about fairness, there will only be domination. They deserve no respect at all.
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Someone said on another thread that the central issue in the ID debate is that there is no evidence for ID, and that’s the empty center that the creationists talk around. So when creationists try to waste my time talking about how there is no evidence for the established science that they don’t understand, I prefer to cut to the important stuff, which I see as this: Tearing down science does nothing to prove creationism, god, or jesus. If they want me to worship their god it could easily be arranged: Get him to make an appearance. That would convince me. Of course they don’t, and everyone knows why they don’t. Because their god doesn’t exist and they know it in their heart!
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It must suck to be them.
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Of course you are absolutely right Fr. The IDiots try to get around that by saying they are not naming the designer. Yeah right!
There must be some big money to be made by any junk scientist, trained and doctrated by the IDiots themselves, or anyone scientfically below average/lazy willing to sell out. I feel those, still trying to sell this faulty product, have got a fair bit to loose. In $$$ that is.
In one particular ‘in house’ (so to speak) education institution discussed recently, the emphasis is on the rhetoric not the science itself! As we have seen time and time again.
RAmen
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BTW, Dembski and cohorts commissioned that little production above and sent it to Richard Dawkins. (not sure who else recieved it!)
Little bit of ‘lost it completely’ there I think. :)
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I know you are already well aware of the info FCC, but did you take a look at the ‘Merry Mithras’ clip link posted on the Dawkins site?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Snc5AOYt1Ak&eurl=
and the xtians sang ‘lalalalalalalalala……lalalalalalalalalala’ with their hands over their eyes!
RAmen
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Thanks for the links, Nik, you’ve just made my morning. The Dembski thing was sadly pathetic, nauseating in fact, but the Stephen Fry bit was well good…”Oh Mithras”! Fry is well read and extremely knowledgeable, a true scholar as well as an accomplished actor and director. Do they air “Kumar’s at No. 42″ in OZ? He was brilliant on that programe.
RAmen
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What really get me about QI is the huge STACK of cards and Stephen fry has as notes, and he has researchers. Does he need all of that? I thought most of that show was planned.
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@Nikky:
How could I have missed this show? I DON’T KNOW!!!
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Thank you for bringing this whole topic up. I’ve just spent the morning reading about Roman religion and population density, and other general Roman stuff, for the first time in years.I hadn’t remembered just how identical the religions were.
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I’m still going to scream, ‘Oh My Flying Spaghetti Monster! instead of ‘Oh Mithras!’. At least our religion isn’t totally copied from someone else.
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@Mad John Kidd
‘Do they air “Kumar’s at No. 42″ in OZ?’
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Yes. I used to watch it, (great show) before my old tele died. Don’t know if it is still running though.
I’m thinking about getting a TV card for my PC rather than a new TV. I am still enjoying the absence of a set at present. Seem to have more free time!
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@Fr. Corpus Callosum
I’d seen discussion on Mithras before (I’m sure, on one of the threads here as well as elsewhere) but didn’t follow it that closely. I guessed, then, that people were discussing parallels and wasn’t aware that xtianity had totally ripped off, in such exact fine detail, this pagan ‘god’.
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i love QI. it’s so fun tellin teachers they’re wrong becuase Stephen fry said so :D
“Merry Mithras/FSM”
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Someone really needs to make up a Mithras verse for the old time religion song. Ideas, anyone?
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@ L’TUAE_42
I will pray to ancient Mithras
Or maybe that bloke named Jesus
They really are quite the same as
It’s good enough for me
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Well I gave it a shot anyway
MJK
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Maybe a ‘thee’ in there somewhere (to rhyme with ‘me’) Mad John?
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@Mad John Kidd: I’m getting all my threads messed up today (I think job-hunting gets me confused).
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Regarding Landover Baptist, It is an awesome church. Those folks are true christians who take the bible seriously.
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Have you seen the whitehouse.org site? The same guys do it and it’s just as good as landover.
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@ Nikki
I will pray to the ancient Druids
They drink fermented fluids
And run naked through the woods
It’s good enough for me
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This is what I was going off of.
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I’ve been reading some Mithras info. It’s apparently controversial about how similar the two religions are. I don’t know enough to have an opinion yet so I’m still reading. As you might have guessed, I started here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mithraism#Mithraea
If anyone has a site (or book) that they think might be pertinent, I’d be grateful for the info, and I’ll share anything I learn that I think would be fun or interesting.
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@ Fr. CC
Now I’m confused, I thought Landover was a parody.
No, I haven’t seen whitehouse.org. I’ll go check it out.
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Hahahahs
Good stuff!
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@MJK: It is a parody. It’s just that the things they say are the logical result of taking the OT seriously, and they do the nastiness of american bible belt fundamentalists perfectly.
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@ Fr. CC
Okay, I get you now. Thanks, it’s been a long day for me as well.
RAmen
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@FCC
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http://tektonics.org/copycat/mithra.html
is pretty good, though you’ve probably already found it, seing as it’s referenced at the bottom of the page.
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It isn’t looking good for the Jeebus comparison here…
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I read through all that Jingles. It seems pretty indepth and quite convincing, but I’m pretty ignorant about such things.
I would like to read something from someone knowlegeable without a vested interest though, if that were possible? An objective agnostic scholar in Mithraic studies, perhaps. But like the guy says on that page:
“the practical difficulty of any one scholar mastering all the necessary fields” — linguistics, anthropology, history (Indian, Iranian, and Roman!), archaeology, iconography, sociology — in order to get a grip on Mithraic studies.
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You know Jingles, aside from the whole Mithras vs christianity thing, isn’t the whole celebration thing, on the 25th, still to do with the winter solstice? What the hell are we doing celebrating it in Oz? We are on top of the summer solstice now! Those who suggest we celebrate with Santa, presents ect. in the middle of winter, may be on the right track. I know I could certainly eat a lot more, of the scrumptious food that abounds at this time of year, in the cooler months. Especially the prawns. I can eat a lots of those in summer, but I’m sure I could eat more of them in winter. Hmm….I’m getting hungry…bring on the 25th already!
RAmen
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Not really a prawn guy myself. I’m more the sort that stands around in thongs, having a few mates round, toss our weiners on the barbie, and knock back a long cold one.
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(To anyone that doesn’t know Aussie slang, there is nothing dirty in that… it just sounds like it…)
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Seriously though… look at it this way Nikkiee; Christmas is just an excuse for a party right?
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So, while all those poor yanks and poms crowd around stonehenge and wherever it is American hippies go (probably San Francisco), freezing their titties off to observe the winter solstice, we can all go down to the beach in the evening (where it’s still light, thank FSM for Daylight savings in W.A.), pull out a few beach towels, and enjoy the summer solstice in the way that has been for centuries; drunk as skunks off fermented grain product.
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Mmmmm… fremented grain product. Incedentaly, what is vodka made of?
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vodka has been ma of all sorts of things, including various grains (barley, wheat or rye) and traditionally potatoes.
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i saw the dembski thing, how fucking pathetic. a pathetic and incredibly not funny production from one of the so-called leaders of the ID movement. what’s the matter dembski, can’t get over the fact that even a conservative christian judge can freely admit that ID is a lot of shit. seriously, if i were to see dembski, i would tell him to get over himself and stop making people hate him so much.
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Eggy
Dec 18th, 2006 at 10:17 am
I was staring at a plate of tomato soup (homemade and lumpy) when i squinted my eyes and turned my head to the left and there i saw something that looked a bit like FSM!!! therfore He exists! blessed be He who lays his pasta upon us.
RAmen
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O_O I must increase my sensitivity to his appearance, so that I too may notice more of his daily manifestations.
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RAmen
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