Take a look at some of the hate mail on this site…some people actually have said it ruined their lives because their friends have believed in this stuff, and yes in fact I do know a girl who told me about this, and yes, she does belive in this stuff, with all of her heart. I don’t think that you people take into consideration that not everyone is the brightest crayon in the box and people will believe in anything they’re told..it’s a fact of life. I mean…I’m all for fun and games and joking around…but there really is a point of taking it to far. I mean…come on…look at what you’re doing in your spare time…it kind of depresses me.
-Jacob
@ Popoff- I stuck up for you, bud. I thought it was pretty damn funny.
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Ale is just the thing. If ye timbers doan sheever, day be needin’ more ale, I do spose.
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@Peter Popoff Dec 7th, 2006 at 9:57 pm
“..To all Wench’s…
I was Swabbies Bucket, But “Peter Popoffâ€
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Peter, I would never have known ;)
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@ everyone supporting a fulfilling wenchhood – thank you.
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http://www.wulffmorgenthaler.com/default.aspx?id=69bc035c-8062-487a-8431-9c18ad9a7cc9
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@Wench*ankla1.com
Welcome to wenchdom ankla 1
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@Wench*ankla1.com
‘Is there a local, or do we represent ourselves in all ‘ho’ matters? Yohoho matters, that is. Texas ‘t’, swimmin’ pools and movie stars, dammit! I’m Gumby! Gumby-Wench. Man I’m confused.’
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You reckon your confused!
@SaucyWench
I’m making mine a bourbon Saucy.
RAmen
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@enjoy
That’s great, I give it a bookmark.
RAmen
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She said… Yohoho!
Hahahahahahaha.
Peace, Love,
Goodnight,
Ramen
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@enjoy
There is another one at that site, I think may be relevent to some of our visitors
http://www.wulffmorgenthaler.com/default.aspx?id=5aef723a-1390-4fc5-8684-5cd9aed99f4e
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Again love the cartoons
RAmen
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It’s not our fault people are sarcasm-deprived and have no idea what it is.
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Wow, this has been quite the business today. Been stuck in the historical archives all day and look at what I missed. I feel let down though. Somehow, oars up the arse and assclowns buring in hell carry so much more weight. I see the HDD outbreak is still flaring up and someone is refusing to take their medication. Shame, shame.
RAmen
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@LaughingMan
A-the-ist!!! Please, please, you’re killing me enough already with your bad spelling and your bad brain. Just say it: a-the-ist. Atheist.
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I’m still trying to figure out how we can help those with Humour Deficit Disorder, Mad John.
Obviously using humour/satire is no good because they don’t recognise it.
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@Hetzle Dec 7th, 2006 at 10:44 pm
‘It’s not our fault people are sarcasm-deprived and have no idea what it is.’
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Ah…I was pretty much repeating your post Hetzle….sorry I had missed it.
RAmen
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Yes, Jacob is depressed at our wasting of our time and yet he contiunes to waste his own time by coming into Our Church and pissing on our parade. Oh the irony.
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@TheLaughingMan Dec 7th, 2006 at 8:25 pm
‘People are getting hurt now apparently… and as you guys have claimed before “nobody has ever been hurt by FSMâ€. FSMism is already going down the path of bloodshed and destruction. Stop it… stop it now. Change the phrase to read “FSM is a farce†and be done with it before you do more bad than good.’
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All hail the Flying Spaghetti Monster, the one true god, whose message is peace, not bloodshed as this fundie claims!
RAmen
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Yay… more blind, idiotic hate mail!
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WTF, you have given us all hope, we thought we had seen the last of you burn-in-hellers, but nope, you guys just keep marching on in.
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Also, good to see another wench on board. I think I’m going to call you Gumby wench though… its easier to handle than wench*ankla1.com.
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In other news… drinking two pints of Toohey’s Extra Dry instead of having lunch is fun…
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Jingles
(Tipsy with bells on)
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Thanks Jingles, I missed the WTF post. Now that’s more like it.
Cheers, mate.
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@one oared marc
BTW is the dutch version of VAT (value added tax).
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St John the Blasphemist,
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“Just like my mother used to say – It’s all good fun until someone loses an eye.”
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Oh, sure, NOW you tell me!
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OEJ
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Wench*ankla1.com,
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“I want to be called Loretta. Tell me who said that, if you dare!”
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That’s from The Life of Brian. Do I win a prize? Perhaps a king geek pocket protector?
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OEJ
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OEJ,
Of course it’s fun till some lubber loses an eye – how else to they get to wear a patch?
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then it’s even more fun
aaarrrghhhhh.
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Thanks OEJ, The Life of Brian. I knew it sounded familiar, just couldn’t place it.
RAmen
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Okay, I am new here, but unless I have totally misunderstood everything I read on this site, believing in FSM means believing that Science and Faith are two separate things and that Faith must not be taught as Science in school. And believing this whatever my actual faith may be.
So, if I catch your drift, you are saying that this girl you know lost a friend because this friend was so narrow-minded and inflexible, that he/she would sacrifice the friendship rather than tolerate that this girl is advocating a separation of Faith and Science. That right? In this case, I have to say my heart is not exactly breaking on this friends’ behalf…
In Germany (my homecountry) most people are Christians. however, I have met exactly one person here who could be called a creationist. Everybody else accepts evolution as a well validated scientific theory, Christian or not.
And actually, even the catholic church itself officially accepts evolution as thus. Because not doing so is frankly ridiculous. It would be like still claiming that the earth is flat and the sun turns around it (which it isn’t and doesn’t, in case you were wondering!).
And frankly, I never have been able to understand, why I can’t accept that evolution happens, even though I do believe in God. Sorry.
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There’s plenty of scientists been tortured by religion for claiming the earth is round and went round the sun! but then again you’re dealing with an organisation which would rather see the spread of AIDS than accept contraception. Not the most proactive forward thinking bunch lead by a Hitler youth…
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Belief is a strange thing to lose friends over. It’s an even stranger thing to get upset about. Money! Now there’s a compelling reason to lose – or indeed make – friends. I guess it’s all about perspective. And since no one has seen them, no one in my local pub anyway, there really isn’t any reason to say one deity is better than the other, or even exists. Unless of course, one deity promises beer and strippers.
RAmen
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Good one Boarg.
Though I wonder how many Christina Fundamentalists have The Byrds – Christian Life as their favourite song, without realising what happened to its writer.
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@ TheLaughingMan (Dec 7th, 2006 at 8:25 pm)
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‘why not just say that it’s a satire already?’
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It’s been said, many times. It’s described as a satire on other sites. It’s full of sneaky, sideways, humorous indications that it’s a satire. What do you want? The website to be changed to ‘The Satire of the Flying Spaghetti Monster’? Just wouldn’t be such a good satire in that case, would it? Jonathan Swift wouldn’t have made such an impression if he’d written:
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‘A Modest Proposal: For Preventing the Children of Poor People in Ireland from Being a Burden to Their Parents or Country, and for Making Them Beneficial to the Publick (By the way, I’m only joking)’.
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Good satire gets the reader to work it out for him/herself. It gets people thinking, in other words, which I regard as performing a public service. Some people don’t understand some satire, just like some people don’t get some jokes. Should we stop telling jokes?
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(By the way, if Jacob’s friend is really a committed believer, surely they read these forum threads. I’d have thought conversations like this would more or less give the game away.)
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’stop being nerdy little kids on a mission to fix religion. You never will.’
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What a faint heart! 2,100 years ago, nobody had heard of Cheeses Kites, but today you could support a reasonable economy on small gold crosses alone. Sure, the FSM alone isn’t going to take on several billion believers and win, but it’s just one part of a much, much bigger, growing movement. A single protester might not achieve much, but a march of millions is made up of single protesters. (And don’t forget this guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Tianasquare.jpg)
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‘FSMism is already going down the path of bloodshed and destruction.’
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No, it isn’t. Have some pasta, dear boy.
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‘How ironic it is that the Athiest is the one to have a heart.’
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Why is that ironic? It might seem ironic to a bunch of blinkered fundamentalist theists, but you’re in good company here. The only irony I can see here is that you should say anything that might perpetuate that old anti-atheistic stereotype, whilst actually believing that you’re the only atheist posting here…
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@spider:
I’m sorry, are you suggesting that German equals Nazi?
If so:
1) this is not the case
2) I do feel personally insulted by this suggestion.
this is just one of a few more things that do not automatically equal. Just for your information:
German does not equal Nazi
American does not equal bigot, or moron (see, there is a stereotype for everyone…)
Christian does not equal fundamentalist
neither does Moslem. Or any other religion.
I could continue this list, but I suppose you get my drift…
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Jon E.
You sent me off to find out what happened (I shamefully admit it wasn’t something I knew already). Your question would be a fascinating one to have an answer to (or the reaction to the answer would be fascinating). The future not being set, safe and rosy for anyone, regardless of belief, is only tragic if the spice of life isn’t what you seek, or the “human condition” doesn’t fascinate you. A pity to miss out on such natural stimulants. I know it sucks sometimes, but sometimes it doesn’t.
I ramble, I’ll stop.
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@ Kysyra,
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In case Spider’s asleep right now, I’ll presumptuously butt in. (Sorry if I do you an injustice, Spider.) Look up Pope Benedict XVI on Wikipedia and you’ll find the following:
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‘Following his fourteenth birthday in 1941, Ratzinger was enrolled in the Hitler Youth…’
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Sure, it goes on to say that he wasn’t very committed and his father was ‘a bitter enemy of Nazism, believing it conflicted with the Catholic faith’. But if it was Spider’s ‘Hitler youth’ comment that (understandably) caught your attention, then I’m afraid it’s a matter of common public knowledge. (Mind, being an unenthusiastic Hitler Youth in the ’40s is, for my money, neither here nor there, compared with witholding contraception in an AIDS-ravaged, poverty stricken continent.)
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I’m sure Spider gets your drift and agrees with it, as will virtually everybody here. FSM isn’t about labelling and persecuting people (except possibly ninjas). That, after all, was one of the least charming characteristics of Nazism.
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Gram Parsons was a great song writer and I really do like The Byrds – Sweetheart Of The Roadeo album. I just have problems with a song that tells you to get rid of any friends who don’t agree with you about religion, particularly one writen by someone who didn’t really take his own advice. I could have been taking that song the wrong way and he could have been being sarcastic about some christians he knew, but it never sounded that way to me and I’m fairly sure I’ve come across christians who do take it seriously.
Yep I can ramble as well.
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@J, Also Ratzenberger was responsible for covering cases of child abuse within the priesthood under his predecessor. He was head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, formerly know as the Inquisition.
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@J:
Actually, there are about a dozen things that trouble me more about Ratzinger than him having been enrolled at 14. There is the contraception issue, there is the polemic against Harry Potter, there is the increased number of exorcists being trained… whatever.
The point is, if you define Ratzinger by having been a Hitler youth, you are back to every German being a Nazi (at least those who were alive back then), because you had no choice.
I have read a number of Spider’s posts by now and don’t really think he wanted to be insulting.
However, some of you guys maybe could try and watch your own statements as well as those of the “others”, and remember your own tolerance. I think it would be a shame if this great site got spoiled by your own crowd becoming as mean as those who flame you!
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oh, and the fact that Ratzinger’s goal even as a child was to become a cardinal (as opposed to just a priest). Now that I always thought really scary!
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@kysyra – I absolutely agree.
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@kysyra and Jon E – golly gosh, Pappa Razzi just gets better and better.
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@kysyra again – ‘Ratzinger’s goal even as a child was to become a cardinal’
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Now *that* I can sympathise with! Cardinals get great outfits, everyone calls them something like ‘Your eminence’ and treats them with awe and respect, and there’s something just ever so slightly frightening about them. Who *wouldn’t* want to be a Cardinal? It’s barely a step down from Darth Vader!
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@J
*g* except that Anakin wasn’t dreaming of being Darth Vader as a child!
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Well, Anakin always struck me as rather a dull child.
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Anyway, everyone knows that, irresepective of Cardinals and Sith Lords, the only role models worth having are Pirates. Yarrrrr!
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Ye’re right there, matey!
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I am impressed, OEJ. Unfortunately there are few who can name that movie. I think it is a classic. There are too many Python quotes hiding in the dark corners of my mind, waiting to pop up and cause pause. You are good, my friend, but do you know the origin of this: “It’s a jelly.” This one has Max Von Sydow, strangely enough.
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Wait a sec….isn’t Christianity satire? It is just so humorous.
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Wench*ankla1.com
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Strange Brew.
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I admit, I had to use the web to find that one. It’s been close to 20 years since I saw that… eh! .-)
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Here’s one for you. “It’s good to be the king.” That one should be easy. .-)
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OEJ
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@wench*ankla1.com
wasn’ that MIB?
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Ahoy all,
sorry wasn’t asleep was out being piratical on 2 wheels – thanks for people answering the q’s from my post. you beat me to the answer! i would like to say i’m sorry of you felt offended by my post but it would be a lie so i won’t say it. the catholic church is run by someone who was a member of the nazi party. how fu**** up is that?
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To answer your other points, at NO point did i suggest german=nazi, that was a conclusion i simply did not jump to. There are some, same as there are British, American, French, (and any other nation you care to mention) bigots who follow those ideals. i did not even draw attention to the fact the Pope is German as i felt it irrelevant.
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I did not accuse any single nation in fact of anything, i do accuse all religions everywhere of being based on falsehood, ie; the world/universe was created by some form of supreme being. I refuse to accept that religion should be expempt from criticism or critique. If they are so fragile so as to require protection from questioning then it only proves they are hiding something. This sheltering of religion from questioning only helps foster extremism and the belief that they are right, which by implication means everyone else is wrong, so that if a single tenet of the faith fails to be true then the rest of it inevitably crumbles. this in turns leads to hysterical protection of every facet of faith, no matter how absurd or ridiculous.
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so, to conclude Kysyra,
if you find the fact that the pope was a hitler youth offending, well tough really, take it up with him, he did it not me.
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If you find the sterotyping of nations offending. Good. Thats why i didn’t do it
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If you find my criticism of religion that has no regard for evidential support (all forms, everywhere, ever) then double tough. I’m not apologising, yah boo sucks with a cherry on top.
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please read what people put before getting offended in future
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If it was MIB then I am SOL. I have heard that line, and not just from Tom Petty. I will rack my little old mind and see what shakes loose.
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Aha! Mel Brooks.
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okay, MIB was “it’s a squid!”
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@spider
“so, to conclude Kysyra,
if you find the fact that the pope was a hitler youth offending, well tough really, take it up with him, he did it not me.”
Ehm, my whole point was actually that this is the one thing about this guy not really worth bitching about. If you were a german kid at that time you were enrolled. Period. This is the one thing saying nothing about Ratzinger’s character. Bitching about him for this is basically saying “all germans (or at least all that were alive back then) are Nazis.
Why don’t you dis him for the things he actually does, like protecting abusers, training exorcists and so on? There is enough to get mad about!
I’m actually neither sure if you really read my first post, nor why you are being this rude.
The point of my first post was to mention that being a catholic does not in itself mean being a fundamentalist, or loving Ratzinger or (among the young ones) even listening much of what he says. That you can believe in something without slavishly following some power hungry old man. Without being dogmatic or fundamentalist. And without rejecting all that we know about the world today and instead living in some crazy make-believe world in which ID is called science.
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#1: Well, morons out of the gene pool == good.
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