Dear People who believe in the FSM,
Bobby Henderson is the next Jim Jones. Run, run while you still can.
Thank You,
TheLaughingMan
*update* TLM’s comment @ 8:15pm:
May I make a suggestion to all of you who still believe in the FSM. Buy this book. Recovery from Cults: Help for Victims of Psychological and Spiritual Abuse
I just wanted to note that TLM’s suggested book is amazon-ranked at approximately #153,000, whereas The Gospel is currently ranked at #825 (lower is better).
*update* TLM’s comment @ 9:17pm:
I’m not trying to make anything personal… I’m just simply pointing out that historically people who are insane and lead cults end up in bad situations. I just thought I’d give you guys a heads up.
In truth I really want just one thing. As soon as Bobby Henderson publicly announces that FSM is a farce… then I’ll shut up and go away. But as long as you guys try to continue making this thing a real religion… then I’m going to keep replying. There are too many religions screwing up the world as it is… we don’t need an FSM to add to the pile.
http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/edn-c010.html
http://christiananswers.net/home.html
WOW! It’s amazing how desperate some people are to believe in their little book. I’ve only had a brief look at the main site here, but it’s pretty obvious that this lot have never done any research beyond their own believes. They really are terrified.
You just gotta feel sorry for them.
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I live about 6 hours from Cincy. When the museum opens, I’m getting a group of friends together to go down there. It should be a load.
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OEj
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Hey y’all, I came back for the kool aid. There is still some left I hope.
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@Jon E: Didn’t the pope accept the theory of evolution? and if so, then why is the museum being built?
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@branded cow
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the museum will be for retarded rednecks and creationists who feel that they have an institute to support their beliefs. and yes, the pope does accept evolution. it’s the redneck protestants (mostly, only a few catholics) that decide to destroy science for the whole country. and the worst thing is that the republicans seek to support these assholes. wtf.
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Because the popes Catholic and most of the Evangelicals think that the Catholics are evil, so they aren’t going to take any notice of the pope.
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@OEJ: Be sure to wear pirate gear.
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@jon e
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true
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Oh that would go down so well I’m sure. I bet they’d be very confused. You probably want to wear body armour under the pirate gear, far as I know that lot are all pro-gun and pro-death sentence.
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@jesus christ: I think you got your politics mixed up; the rednecks support the republicans, but I see what you mean. I still think(hope) there are enought rational people out there to keep this country intact. The problem is not all of us vote because we “don’t want to encourage the bastards”
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No, Nick, say it isn’t so! Your soul has gone to the dark side. I will pray for you. I will pray so hard that I will go into a trance and have visions of warm manicotti marching in unison across our great land. I have an idea! We can beat it out of you. Quick, someone hand me that big Gideon’s Bible!
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@branded cow
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you’re right
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@everybody
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i’m not exactly against republicans, i’m pissed off that they would support an extrememly retarded idea such as intelligent design. i just wish that the religious right would just learn to shut the fuck up for a few years.
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Polls show that the Democrats made some inroads into the “Bubba vote” this last election. The evangelicals are the Republicans’ largest base group. They cannot afford to piss them off even if it means running someone like G W Bush. Of course, the president was in the position to make the worst internationally strategic mistakes in the nation’s history, which he promptly did.
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The evangelicals have lined up a new candidate for president for 2008 that will carry on the blunders of their current candidate. We need to focus every bit of energy that we have to make sure this doesn’t happen.
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http://www.brownback.com/
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lets just hope the evangelicals never get official power. then are nation will become a laughing stock.
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Glad I don’t live in the USA when I read this stuff. The problem we in the UK have is that anything that the USA gets we tend to get a few years later, just we normally get the more half-arsed version of it. It does help though that in Britain we long ago lost all respect for politicians and religious leaders, but we still have respect for academics. This seems to be the reverse of America.
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What we need is another Reagan republican, but that era is dead. Well, enought of politics. I’m thirsty. Pass the kool aid.
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@Oarless Marc
Scary. If that guy wins then you can say goodbye to what little respect the rest of the world still has for the USA. Sorry to say that Dubya has already got rid of most of that already.
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@jon e
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i don’t think you’re the first to say that Dubya sucks huge ass. and it’s not because he’s republican, it’s because he only wants to benefit himself. there are countless reasons to hate him
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Hi again
@JonE: I don’t beliebe that article!
But i did like the following quote:
“She is concerned that many Christians do not accept the literal truth of the creation:
“It’s foundational. If you can’t believe Genesis, then why believe any other part of the Bible?
“You can’t pick and choose, you can’t say this part is right, and this part is wrong,” she said, halfway through supervising an online tutorial in her office. ”
I have always been wanting to ask that question: WHICH creation story in Genesis must I believe? Aren’t they in part mutually exclusive? Do I have to say both are right? Ahem.
And BTW: are creationists allowed to use technology and stuff to build their museum? I mean, it’s based on scientific discoveries…
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@kysyra
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remember, the creationists work desperatly hard to show us that god creating the world in six days is somehow science. it’s the same with ID advocates. it’s just creationism with a new name.
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@Kysyra
Yes, I allways wondered about that one too. How would they decide which one is true?
Ah, hammers, nails etc were created right, they didn’t well evolve, so it’s probably ok for them to use those things.
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The Jews and the Romans used the hammer and nails too
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has anybody ever noticed that the examples that the IDiots use to prove their point are all nonliving things (ex. mt. rushmore, a mouse trap, a bunch of patato chips spelling a word). little do they know that a mountain can’t have sex, and certainly not a mousetrap. also, computers can’t have sex either. just because organisms are complex does not in any way mean they could not have evolved.
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@ jesus christ
well, my rats and I keep arguing…
they keep saying that the first creation story is true, and they have been created first so we (man) must obey them. I keep saying it’s the second one, where animals have been made to keep man company…
(PLEASE don’t argue the fine points in this!)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzTikg0z9jw&NR
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This one always makes me laugh.
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@kysyra
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rats were also made to feed a bunch of hungry carnivores. i wonder if god loves rats or if he likes to see them suffer. i wonder why he used them to spread plague to all his followers in the medievel times. wasn’t that also known as the dark ages.
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erm, I just read a while ago that the plague couldn’t really have been spread by rats, because it killed them so fast. And it spread at a speed that could only have been provided by humans themselves.
(off topic, just to redeem my favourite animal and protect it from all that slander!)
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Hi Kysyra – I could never get my head around that literal truth thing. Especially when I was told to read the old testament ‘through the eyes of Jesus ‘.
That sounded a bit like interpretation to me?
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Only 18 names on the letter2ted. C’mon
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I always heard that the plague was spread by the fleas on the rats, and the only thing that really stopped it was people moving out of the citys.
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I also heard that a large volcano burst in the Pacific with enough ash to cloud the sun for a couple decades, so it really was the dark ages.
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Hi Alchemist – thank FSM no-one ever seriously asked me to take anything literal until 12th grade when I had a creationist as a religious education teacher!
Maybe that was simply too late.
However I remember telling my parents when I was 10 or so that the first creation story sounded like someone back then knew about creation and tried to find a way to get others to understand about it.
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@Kysyra – I don’t think the rats meant it – I won’t hold it against them.
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The story I heard was that the stray dogs and cats were rounded up and killed as they were the main suspects. This allowed the rat population to explode and the rat fleas (the plague carriers), a greater chance of coming within feeding range of humans.
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The rats were an unwitting host.
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actually moving out of the cities just spread it further… if they had been smart they would have quarantained the first victims!
Yep, sure it was the fleas! That’s why cats and dogs and squirrels and so on spread it, too.
About the vulcano I just read, too. (I love Wikipedia, my general knowledge expands in leaps and bounds…)
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@Alchemist
Didn’t people back then believe that the bad odours spread it? I always thought they had no idea that it could pass from man to dog to rat to whatever…
and they thought to stop it with flaggellation and stuff!
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Kysyra. Haha yes. As far as I know they believed a good stench would drive away the demons that caused illness. The germ theory didn’t come up for ages (1800s)
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Mind you, a good fire, that’ll do it every time
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@ Alchemist,
Ok! I signed the letter! Now…
Buy some of my God Damned… Miracle water…
D.E.
Ramen
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To throw in the heretics and witches and common sinners whose fault it was?
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Kysyra. “I always thought they had no idea that it could pass from man to dog to rat to whatever…”
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Sorry. I meant that by rounding up the strays they inadvertently removed the main predators of the host (Mr Ratty).
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And what’s wrong with a bit of flagellation now and then :-)
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@Alchemist
“And what’s wrong with a bit of flagellation now and then :-)”
got me there
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Water? I’m still waiting for those grapes you were going to pick?
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Keep it to yourself Peter but I’ve eight hundred kilograms of “Fragments of the True Cross” coming in again on Friday.
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Put you down for your usual?
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Pain Kysyra. That’s what’s wrong with it. Still, the Catholics seem to thrive on it!
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Alchemist Dec 12th, 2006 at 12:29 pm
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Put you down for your usual?… You know that’s right!
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Oh yea, still workin’ on the grapes, bear with me… heh heh
Ramen
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Sorry, Alchemist, wasn’t sure if it was one of your pasttimes, I just didn’t want to be rude… each to his own…
The real living ones I know don’t really go for it… but then, they practice contraception too…
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@kysyra
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ok, i will admit that it wasn’t actually spread by the actual rats themselves. the fleas of the rats, however, are hosts of plague. and you are right about how the people of the time helped to spread the disease. i forgot to point that out. i was justsaying that rats were one of the reasons for the plague.
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Hahaha. I’m into auto-asphyxiation myself.
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Peter – by the time I get them they’ll have fermented. Hmmm “Last Supper Cava -0000″
or whenever.
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Okay, I had to look that one up
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@jesus christ
since they just tried eating my desk and my computer cables (again!) right now you can blame them for anything you want for all I care!
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@kysyra
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those god damn rats. of all the things god had to ‘inteligently design’ why did he have to create those rats. they cause disease, the eat the furniture, and worst of all they eat all my cheese up.
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It’s certainly an eye opener? I’m thinking of standing for Parliament – it’s one of those ‘must do’ activities if you want to be a politician.
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Apparently there’s this room under ‘The House of Commons’ (I’m English in case you hadn’t guessed). It’s got all sorts of torturous equipment; the rack, iron maiden, thumb screws, you name it.
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It’s a bit like the gym in a modern company. They all use it you know? Ever last one of them. Tony’s wive is the worst – always in the dungeon of pain that one.
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@jesus christ
if you get some yoghurt, they’ll take that and leave your cheese alone!
@Alchemist
Positively.
In Germany the government moved so often I guess they had to outsource and visit other people’s dungeons… but now I probably never will look at Angela Merkel the same way, either :-(
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Ooogh. Kysyra – now you’ve put me off food.
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because of the yoghurt or of Angela Merkel?
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