How can a thing made by man be god? its fucking spagetti! people EAT IT! why would you let people EAT your god? Everyone I know thinks you are retarded, so congrats there :P
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An elaborate spoof on Intelligent Design, The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is neither too elaborate nor too spoofy to succeed in nailing the fallacies of ID. It's even wackier than Jonathan Swift's suggestion that the Irish eat their children as a way to keep them from being a burden, and it may offend just as many people, but Henderson, described elsewhere as a 25-year-old "out-of-work physics major," puts satire to the same serious use that Swift did. Oh, yes, it is very funny. -- Scientific American
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@ Nikkiee
You’re quite welcome. When I found them I knew that I had to pass them on to you.
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@ Jon E
Please don’t be giving them any ideas or they just might start bombing all of those secret multimillion dollar research labs that we evilutionists are getting rich from.
BTW, I’m back from planting the latest discovery for us overpaid scientists to find.
RAmen
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Hey everybody:) Soon it is christmas and Jesus will show The spaghetti monster who the real man is (Y)
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If they are going to do something then most likely what we say won’t affect them one way or the other.
@ Wench Nikkiee. Yep “Stupid enough to be dangerous”. Pretty much exactly what I meant. They scare anybody sensible. I used to be a christian, more than half my lifetime ago. One of the reasons I walked away was that I’d started going to an evangelical church and even at 16 I realised that there was something very wrong with these people. To be honest they scared the crap out of me. After that I started looking at what I actually believed and found that none of it made much sense. Also on moral grounds I realised I couldn’t be associated with something that has done so much total evil as christianinity.
I also have an older brother who is a fundi. He believes everything that they tell him. Over the years I’ve seen his personality almost completely subsumed by there dogma. We can trust him to do anything now, he’ll do anything for his church, but if we need him then you might as well be talking to a brick wall.
Sorry, I know I shouldn’t go into long winded justifications of myself, but some times I just vent.
Why is it those of us who have quit something are almost always the biggest opponents of that thing that we once loved?
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Oh you mean that pagan festival that the jeezus crowd turned into a huge profit making scam Kurt?
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This religion is crazy, I mean, how can you prove it?
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be nice, I am norwegian, don’t write to difficult ;)
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Hey Kurt do you actually think you little deity is going to come back and show us the way then? He’d have had to exist in the first place for that to happen. The only evidence for the existence of Essu Ben Yosef is the bible and as a source of information it stinks. It’s been rewritten and re-editted way to many times to be believable. Even St Augustine, one of the early editors, pointed out that it was all written by falible humans and so was not inerrant fact. Have your faith, but understand that that is all it is. If your faith is built upon the bible then it’s built on shifting sand and even your book warns against that.
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If your faith is built on a flying spaghetti monster you should see a doctor ;)
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Do I smell troll dung? Have mercy, dude, Kurt. Next time light a match or something.
Seriously.
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FSM is a parody and I know it. It’s here to show just how ridiculous religion really is. Christians have been responsible for some of the worst attrocities in human history. That’s not a particularly good record for a religion that’s supossed to be based on love and peace.
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hahahahhaa… you guys are funny, and crazy!! You don’t have any proof, so you just start talking about something else..
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A religion based on love and peace is a good thing, there are just too many bad humans in this world that just can’t that problems can be solved in peacefull ways..
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the last sentence should be: that just can’t see*, but i think you understood that..
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@ Kurt
Pastafarians do not worship a Fyling Spaghetti Monster as such. Rather it is the image He chose to appear to our prophet Bobby. We make pasta to honor Him the one true God of all. He could have as easily appeared as a turnip or a bagel. But the satirical aspects of the pasta, meatball, and sauce is much more ecumenical.
RAmen
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But you doon’t have any proof either Kurt. You are basing your faith on something that has been shown again and again to be false. As I’ve mentioned before, it even states in your bibel that a house built on sand is doomed.
Backing Christianity is giving justification to people who will peform any horror that they wish.
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@Jon E
“Over the years I’ve seen his personality almost completely subsumed by there dogma. We can trust him to do anything now, he’ll do anything for his church, but if we need him then you might as well be talking to a brick wall.”
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I feel for you and your family Jon E. May your brother suddenly wake up and see the truth.
A brainwashing cult is a brainwashing cult no matter what guise it hides behind.
My best friends sister is the same. Her and her husband started taking their 11/12yo son on “sporting outings” and pulled out all the stops on the boy. But he had grown up with rational parents, so no deal. I’ve lately been informing these same friends about the pastafarian religion and they are so keen. They are not very computer literate, so I’ve promised to visit, (within a week or two at most) and put them online so they can join in.
RAmen
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You don’t have any proof, so you just start talking about something else..
Have you not seen the graph or the video of the fsm completely irrefuteable proof of the fsm.
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@Kurt Dec 5th, 2006 at 4:00 am
“hahahahhaa… you guys are funny, and crazy!! You don’t have any proof, so you just start talking about something else..”
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We have a Gospel Kurt which has NOT been re-written a thousand times over.
Yep, full moon heading your way guys.
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Probably a combination of full moon and impending flying reindeer (sp?) season.
I’m a bit rusty on the jeezuz BooK guys….what page are the flying reindeer on?
RAmen
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@Wench Nikkiee, thanks for the sympathy it is appreciated. I do try with him the thing that worries me is he now has a daughter and I’m not happy that she will be brainwashed with this rubbish as well.
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If I commented on that Jon E, I would write pages of anger, sadness and frustration.
So I’ll just say good luck and may His Noodleyness bless your way.
RAmen
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Now I am off to reheat my dinner.
Catch you all on the flipside.
Holiday & RAmen
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@ Kurt,
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‘A religion based on love and peace is a good thing’
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Absolutely bang-on right. That would be humanism. Or did you mean to say:
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‘A religion based on an apparently fictitious supernatural being, which incidentally sometimes also endorses love and peace but also sometimes doesn’t, is a good thing’
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Because if that’s what you meant, we don’t agree at all.
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@ Jon E,
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‘Why is it those of us who have quit something are almost always the biggest opponents of that thing that we once loved?’
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That’s a good question, isn’t it? How many (irritatingly) strident ex smokers or drinkers have you met?
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The reassuring simple answer is that having seen it from both sides we’re the best equipped to make confident judgements.
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But I think it pays to be at least a little bit sceptical of our own motivation. It is all too easy, whatever your angle on things, to fall into the ‘I think X so X is true’ trap (which we so often see from our theistic detractors on this site). In our case, X is ‘having the experience of losing faith and gaining a secular perspective’. We’ve got to be careful we’re not just using the same rubbish argument as the people we’re arguing against.
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There’s another interesting motivation which cropped up in one of the book tour journal articles on the Richard Dawkins site. In one of his talks, an audience member asked about dealing with the anger that accompanied de-conversion from religion. Dawkins was surprised and, after ascertaining that the questioner meant ‘anger at the religion and the people who had persuaded her of it for so long’, he asked the audience whether this kind of anger was a common experience. There was a passionate chorus of ‘Yes’s.
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If we’re going to achieve anything like a happy and peaceful enlightened secular society, we’re going to need to keep checking our own motivations. I find it very easy to get carried away to the point of arguing over-vehemently, saying stupid and sarcastic things and overlooking some of the weaker arguments that (otherwise very convincing) secular spokespeople sometimes propose.
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It’s a hard job fighting the corner of reason, alright.
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Best wishes for you and your brother, by the way.
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(Sorry, @ Kurt again,
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I said: ‘if that’s what you meant, we don’t agree at all.’ I meant ‘we don’t agree *with each other* at all’. I’m not speaking for some sinister collective of irate secularists. And I’m not the Queen. Obviously.)
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I’m right.
If you disagree with me, you must be stupid.
That’s the only possible explanation.
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@ Greg,
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I’m convinced.
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“The reassuring simple answer is that having seen it from both sides we’re the best equipped to make confident judgements.”
I used to be with you guys. Now I’m Christian.
So I guess I’m equipped :D
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Ah, the confidence that stems from responding part-way through a half-read post.
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Why has thou forsaken me?, asked Jesus. What? God had forsaken Jesus! He said so himself! Well that settles it – God’s a prick and Jesus had been wrong all along! No need to read the rest of this shit…
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FUCK YOU!
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r u gay? leave my damn church alone :(
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“Why is it those of us who have quit something are almost always the biggest opponents of that thing that we once loved?”
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No great mystery here. We have a vested interest in our choices. Studies show that people are much happier with their choices after they make them than they anticipate they will be before making them.
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In other words, once we choose a side, we find ways to validate our decision. One way to do that is to attack the other side.
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“Stumbling on Happiness” by Daniel Gilbert, which has very little to do with how to find happiness and much to do with how perception and the mind works, covers this topic very nicely. A great read that I highly recommend.
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OEJ
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“FUCK YOU!”
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Did somebody lose their oar again?
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ur so gay go fuk a cow
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heha fags the whole lot of u
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“ur so gay go fuk a cow”
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“heha fags the whole lot of u”
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Nothing to be said here. Your style of post ridicules itself quite nicely. Now go back to your sand box and play nice or no cookies for you.
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OEJ
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Yes, we are all gay. This is a homosexual pasta church. What’s your point?
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>“ur so gay go fuk a cowâ€
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Yee FSM! It comes to something when they can’t even spell Fuck!
Go and look a little bit more closely at the graffitti around your neighbourhood, I am sure most of them can at least spell fuck.
You may want to work on your argument a little bit too, most of us don’t actually care whether we are gay or not, this is not going to upset us. Pretty much the same as “Your Mum stands on street corners” Please stop, I am laughing so much I can’t breathe!
Try going for something with a little more credibility next time.
Erm….That was actually supposed to be posted on the bottom of the quote.
Not sure what happened there, has someone checked the ship for gremlins?
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you just spelled “neighborhood” wrong there meatstick!!!!! Good job on spelling FUCK though!
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Ah – I am from the UK. That is how we spell neighbourhood – you may even have noticed that we spell colour differently too – or maybe not.
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Jon Dough,
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You could at least try something like….
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“Your FSM is so fat, when He goes to the movies, he sits near everyone!”
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“Your FSM is so stupid, it took Him 2 hours to watch 60 minutes!”
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“Your FSM is so ugly, He tried to take a bath and the water jumped out!”
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“Your FSM’s breath is so bad, when He yawns, his teeth duck!”
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OEJ, so poor, I can’t even pay attention
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Jon Dough – well, we could always add garlic and cook him at 180 degrees for 20 minutes, then he’d be useful for something.
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then i do truly and sincerely apologize!!!
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Apology accepted.
We spell apologise differently too :)
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A ha. . . good to know!
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Why do people really care at all what someone else believes, I mean my buisness is not someone else’s. So why do people give a shit what we believe. We don’t go around criticizing anyone else’s views, so back off
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Well, peeden, most Christians would say that if we don’t convert soon we’re going to hell, and who wants to see that?
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I see the quality of the hatemail hasn’t improved any while I’ve been away.
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‘lo, everyone!
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@Peeden
Are you targetting us or the Christians?
just wondering, seeing as we pastafarians do this as rebuttal against a couple thousand years of religious tyrrany. And both sides widely criticise the other, in case you failed to notice. of course, only one has solid fact supporting it: FSMism. noodles and science are great combination; we get food and increased understanding of how the world actually works.
RAmen
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