straw-man fallacy

Published November 17th, 2006 by Bobby Henderson

Basic Straw-man Fallacy… They put up this stupid straw-man that nobody in their right mind would believe in(Pastafarian Religon) and then falliciously equate it to a real belief(Intelligent Design) that is supported by many scientists, in an attempt to refute that belief.

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  1. Govindaya says:

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  3. BenYachov says:

    It is a classic straw-man fallacy. Rational & philosophically educated Atheists like Quinten Smith would never use it. It’s only the simple-minded followers of Dawkins & Hitchens who think the FSM is somehow a rational critique of the existence or non-existence of an Uncaused Cause.

    Atheists who use this “argument” are in the same class as the followers of Richard Comfort who use the “Bannana Argument” for the existence of God. Only half as smart.

  4. Pointer Men's Basketball says:

    Maybe you should make changes to the post name straw-man fallacy Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster to more specific for your subject you write. I liked the post still.

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  6. Joukahainen says:

    I think that FSM is more like an analogy of God than a straw-man. It has basically the same characteristics. Both’s existence/nonexistence and deeds can’t be proven scientifically. If they could be proven, then religions would cease to exist. No need to believe anymore when there’s irrefutable scientific evidence.

    That’s what religions are for – believing. You said it yourself, intelligent design is a belief. It cannot be proven, there can’t be evidence of it. It’s not scientifically sound. It’s useless to try to prove scientifically that intelligent design is true. In fact I’d never grant funds on such a research. I might laugh at the funding applications at best. Tell me, how do you plan to prove the intelligent design without Bible or any ‘divine’ information?

    • asda says:

      While you obviously have not seen the social science and natural science predictions the Bible made that came true; such as the Jews coming together as a nation and there being springs in the ocean (which was finally discovered in 1977).

      • Insightful Ape says:

        Hm. What about the crap in the bible that is completely false like the flood, or epileptic seizures being caused by evil spirits? As for Jews coming together well in case you missed it, there are millions of them not living in israel. That not withstanding, are you suggesting that the holocaust was god’s plan?

      • Keith says:

        We have a Christadelphian church just down the road from us. When their predictions don’t come true (eg, Russia and China at war with each other in 2010) they simply “reinterpret” the crap they read in the buy bull. For hundreds of years people have been predicting the end of the world or have claimed that the Earth is flat based on their “readings”. Others have claimed that Behemoth is an exact description of a dinosaur. Considering that the description is vague and comparative, it is undoubtedly one of the most fatuous conclusions reached in the long list of fatuous conclusions. It’s funny how when something happens in modern times, some twat combs their version of the buy bull with the express purpose of making tenuous links with reality. I can comb through “Lord of the Rings” or “The Worm Ouroborous” and find equally prophetic writing.

  7. TheFewTheProudTheMarinara says:

    Interesting concept, that “real belief”. I met a man once who thought the security guard at the art museum was an agent for the Chinese government. I know another who thinks the earth is less than 10,000 years old, and a woman who believes her children have head lice, when they don’t. Believing in something doesn’t make it real. Case in point – your “many scientists believing in ID”.

    • Keith says:

      The head lice one is interesting. Has she ever washed their hair in a vinegar solution? It used to work with my mother when she was a child and the smell might dissuade her from ever thinking it again.

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