Right, you are some geek sitting up in your one bedroomed appartment thinking of ways to get kicks out of life. Now u have captured my best mate and i wont stop until FSM is expossed as the shabby, bare walled, well conducted piece of rubbish that it is.
I mean a flying spaghetti monster? i think you need to see a pyshologist mate. you have serious problems.
by the way, have you stopped to consider the effects your little game will cause?
i think you have just split up me and my friend. oh yeh i wanna say thanks, thanks for ruining my life.
-rebecca
my apartment is two-bedroomed.
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I think Rebecca has been rejected at the stripper factory. May His Noodly Appendage reach out and touch us all!
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wow, such a good friend, telling your “best mate” to fuck off because of a difference of opinion.
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a true xtian would not have their life ruined by an atheist (read pagan) website. Lost ur friend? Discover the FSM
Ramen
Tha beast
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@rebecca. Have you ever thought that your friendships might not be that strong if an IDEA or a BELIEF can destroy it. Just a thought…
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Well, Bobby, at least ‘becca didn’t acuse you of laying down in your apartment while you enjoy ruining her life. And if that’s all it took to ruin her life maybe she is the one who should seek professional help. I hope she didn’t break a nail while typing that message or things could get realy ugly.
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LONELY?
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Is it we that are complete idiots? Or you, the one who is letting their life be ruined by satire? Is it really that hard to realize that the FSM is the one and only true religion?
May the sauce be with you.
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That’s great that the fsm has touched so many lives. May we all be touched by his noodly appendage as your friend has. He just keeps getting better now, now he ruined someones life. Ramen
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Becky,
Do you really think our Faith (with it’s scientific PROOF) is having such an adverse effect on humanity as much as the other faiths (which are all shabby, bare walled, badly conducted pieces of rubbish)?
I think we should start The Pasta Inquisition.
Trial by boiling water (with a pinch of salt & teaspool of oil).
Rat
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PS Becky,
I am a geek sitting in the desert, and boy is it #@#ing hot today! As for how I get my kicks – it involves Gaffa Tape, a claw hammer & nail gun, a goat, and a Creationist!!!
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I mean a flying spaghetti monster? i think you need to see a pyshologist mate. you have serious problems.
I think it’s funny how she seems incensed by the fact that it is such a ludicrous platform for a religion. Maybe she would be less pissed if it had been Mother Teresa or Ghandi blinding her “friend w/privileges”. Time to get a new fuck-buddy, or mate, or matey, or whatever you call ‘em in the U.K. or Australia.
Bobby, please tell me you go back and bitch-up the spelling on the hate mail to make us laugh. Nobody can be that bad.
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I think somebody should learn how to spell before she attempts to insult anyone.
Why does nobody catch the satire?
RAmen.
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Hetzle – It could be, as a psych teacher pointed out, that a vast majority of people don’t mature pass adolescence. In this immature state the world is still black and white, while the rest of us, who have matured pass this point, are able to understand such abstract concepts as satire.
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Shabby and well conducted? slight contradiction
As for the effects this causes, i think it rather helpful to point out that FSMism is just as valid as any other religion. I wonder did anyone point out to Abraham the effects that his little game might have, mind you he probably would’nt of cared, he was after all a fucking psycho. And by the way do you really think that it was this site (i.e. a healthy satire) that destroyed your friendship, or you being closed minded, ignorant, arrogant and trying to blame everyone else who doesn’t follow the stupidity of your beleifs.
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@-rebecca
“Now u have captured my best mate”
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He/she is obviously a rational intelligent person while you, my dear, are not.
You are obviously looking to blame someone else for your own shortcomings, one of which is ignorance.
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that’s funny “the effects” this little game will ’cause….like what a holy war? a crusade? what exactly?
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An bible bashing evangelical cult got hold of my husband and brainwashed him into believing in an imaginary being with their religous rubbish, but you don’t see me crying all over the internet blaming everyone else, do you? Well not until now anyways!
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poor girl probably doesn’t have parmesan
Ramen
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Let us not think of this as ruining your sad little world of bad spelling and lack of comprehension of satire. We much prefer to celebrate the new found joy that your ex-mate has now found in the greatness of His noodly wisdom and loving meatballs.
RAmen.
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Sounds like an attempt to start a movement. The FSM ruins peoples love lives.
Hahaha…… Comes across as, “my friend likes the FSM more than he/she likes me.” Poor, poor child. Can’t be easy, being thrown over for flying spaghetti.
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This -must- be a parody.
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Wow! Ignorance is a wonderful thing. If you don’t want to take responsibility for something then find someone else to blame. How many examples of this do you want? How about my kids had a shit time and killed himself, therefore it must be because he plays D&D with his pals.
I have plenty of reasons for hating fundis, though I prefer to just pity them as hate takes to much energy and I can think of better things to do with my time. Though I do make an exception for the wife of my brothers pastor who barged into my home on the night my father died, with him still lying on the front room floor and tried to make converts. Far as I’m concerned that woman is totally evil, she was there claiming to be sympathetic, but was really just trying to take advantage of other peoples grief. I had to throw he out,as my brother wouldn’t do it and he didn’t want to offend her. Probably scared that Chuck Smith.
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I am sure we have heard from this same rebecca before. Tone, grammar, lower case and name are all too similar . I’ll try to remember the post/thread.
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Wow, some friend
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I can’t bring myself to hate poor rebecca here. i simply pity her. greatly.
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“thanks for ruining my life”
You’re welcome sweetie… But assuming you are a deist, you should blame your god for ruining your life, mate.
btw, I live in a two bedroomed cave
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I mean an invisible deity who lives in the sky, reads minds and punishes nonbelievers? i think you need to see a pyshologist mate. you have serious problems.
by the way, have you stopped to consider the effects your little game will cause?
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Some people won’t take responsibility for their own actions, ever. The passing of the buck onto God just shows how childish they really are. The only person who’s responsible for your life is you.
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@Jon E
“passing of the buck onto God just shows how childish they really are.”
Especially passing the buck onto a spaghetti monster god!
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At least we know ours is made up. It’s also a lot more fun.
Have you ever had to sit through a catholic wedding? My cousin got married to a catholic girl a few years ago. It was the most boring thing I’ve ever been to.
I got advised a while back that if I wanted a good time I should crash a Hindu wedding. They at least seem to have fun.
Wonder what a FSM wedding would be like. Would the Priest dress as dread pirate? What would you use instead of a ring?
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Not sure about the FSM wedding ceremony. Reguarding the catholic wedding, I can’t remember which was worse, the wedding or the funeral, though the funeral sticks in my mind.
Probably because I got drunk after the wedding.
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What would you use instead of a ring?
Spaghetti O?
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Never been to a catholic funeral, and hopefully I’ll never have to. Been to a few CoE ones that were OK. The last one I went to was actually the first Humanist Funeral I’ve been to and in a lot of ways had the most fitting lack of ceremony of any I’ve ever been to. It was tailored to fit a very unique man who would probably have loved this website.
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rebecca
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This is a great opportunity for you to have a heart to heart with your mate to discuss your belief systems, listen with an open mind.
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Remember, if you and your mate do not agree on each other’s belief systems, it’s better to know sooner rather than later.
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Oh yeah, you might want to read up a little on the site, it will help you see where we’re coming from
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Just be honest with yourself, and pay attention to the little nagging voice inside that indeed doubts some of your beliefs, but have kept it squelched so far.
jl
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Dear Rebbeca,
Your friend is probably better off without you.
Sincerely,
Just Guess
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P.S. Your spelling sucks.
P.P.S. No hell fire, no death threats, no threats of ass raping with oars? You have a long way to go.
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rebecca,
i worry for your sanity dear child
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You’re such an ass to point out that the creator of this site lives under such poor conditions considering that you wish you had the time to think of something so genius that only a true nerd could understand this. Au Revoir!
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-Rat- Kindly watch where you point that nail gun, I’m mean I’m always up for kinky, but damn! -Parmesan the Greated- That name is truly tasty;>
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Rob, I would like to take this time to congratulate you on a wonderful Horatian satire. The fact that people are considering this as a viable religion makes me chortle a good bit as I sit back and remember reading Jonathan Swift’s “A Modest Proposal.” For those of us who are currently unaware of my allusion, I will take the time to briefly explain, just enough for you to get the gist and make the real leap on your own. “A Modest Proposal” (link to the essay http://art-bin.com/art/omodest.html)is this wonderful little essay about eating children. I’ll say it again for emphasis, this Swift bloke actually suggested that we eat children to solve world hunger. Strange solution, no? Outrageous, no? The really crazy part is that The English Parliament actually debated the issue. That’s not to knock the British or anything, my own family came to America from Britian a mere two generations ago. My point, let’s get to that. While we sit here and ponder the meaning of life, what is art, who am I, is the number forty-two significant, I would like to applaud you, Rob, for not only providing us with such a good laugh about a serious subject but drawing attention to this issue in a manner that lets us see how ridiculous we’re being. Thanks again.
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i have no idea what this bitch is crying about. does she have a problem with everybody who has a website or is she a fundy. i don’t fucking know
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Hail the spag monster! Down with bible-basher Bush
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-Chapter 9 -last chapter!
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First of all, her message doesn’t make any sense at all. I don’t get what she’s trying to say. But, she does give a compliment to you when she says it is “well conducted” rubbish. What does she mean by “captured my best mate”? Is this message a joke?
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Maybe she found her/him tied up with a wet noodle(all kinky-like),and they tried to explain it by blaming it on the FSM.
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Kinky BFSM – I like it
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What is Sam saying??? I’m British and I know quite a lot about Parliament, etc and I’ve never heard of them debating about the eating of children! What planets she on? Its obviously one where the FSM has no influence
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hey! i think that you are silly, and this made my day.
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rebecca-
If you can’t beat em’, join em!
we welcome all who wish to jon the flock, and you would find out why your ‘freind’ likes us so much!
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@Sam:
Please provide a source for your claim that Parliament actually debated the issue. I don’t think that happened.
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Hope this link helps you all understand what Sam was attempting to portray
(didn’t have much time during my TA so I hope it helps!).
http://multitext.ucc.ie/d/Patriotism
“This seemed to imply that Irish political patriotism had no future, but it was animated politically in the decade that followed by Jonathan Swift’s affirmation of Molyneux’s argument in The Drapier’s letters. Perhaps, still more significantly Swift’s commentary on the Irish tendency to blame Britain for its economic problems, brilliantly satirised in A Modest Proposal (1729), combined with the impact of famine conditions served to encourage the development of an economic patriotism that extolled improvement. Moreover, in obvious contrast to the divisive impact of political patriotism, economic development was an issue upon which all could unite, and patriotism achieved a degree of legitimacy and respectability hitherto unthinkable.”
Also for some background upon the subject:
http://www.nde.state.ne.us/SS/irish/unit_3.html
” “A MODEST PROPOSAL”
In 1729, Jonathan Swift, the Dean of St. Patrick’s Cathedral in Dublin, wrote a macabre satire, “A Modest Proposal” in which he tried to draw attention to the horrific conditions of the Irish poor. The pamphlet put forward a scheme for solving Ireland’s economic problems by fattening up the children of the poor and selling them as meat:
“A young healthy child, well nursed, is at a year old, a most delicious, nourishing and wholesome food; whether stewed, roasted, baked or boiled; and I make no doubt, that it will equally serve in fricassee or ragout… I grant that this food will be somewhat dear, and therefore very proper for landlords; who, as they have already devoured most of the parents, seem to have best title to the children.” “
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One last link!
http://www.progressiveu.org/220813-a-modest-proposal-of-swift
Rather long read though.
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Woo-hoo, Becca, nice use of the word “mate”, that’s probably the biggest word I’ve ever heard a hate-mailer use, and you spelled it right! A+ for that, and an F for your obvious poor ability to maintain a friendship.
Pixel Pete is AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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Wait, if her best mate is a true pastafarian, that would mean that she would have replied to this hate-mail. But frankly she hasn’t. If she does, well done rebecca’s best mate. if she doesn’t well, this is a parody.
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(regarding rebecca) hmm at least she said its well conducted – i dn’t think she appreciates the obvious humour on this site somehow and therefore has trouble reading between the lines which suggests she takes everything seriously. This means she cannot distinguish between what is real and what isn’t, therefore she needs the psychologist.
Isn’t logic a wonderful thing?
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Sure the FSM is Ridiculus…
Because we all know for a fact that Jesus rose from the dead and walked on water
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BTW Sam you are full of shit, British Parliament never debated it at all. Don’t try and look clever by pretending you know anything about British Politics. Especially since I write for a leading political magazine and have access to all the minutes from EVERY debate held in the House of Commons, so I would know.
DICKHEAD
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@Tom
Freind, please ignore idiot Americans like Sam. Most of us don’t get our kicks by insulting Britain. of course, we DO have an inside view on how a government should NOT be run, but I don’t think even ours would consider cannibalism as a valid way to end the poulation crisis.
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maybe the american government would never consider cannibalism, but i’m pretty certain dick cheney would eat a kitten sandwich without a second thought…that guy is evil. ;-)
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“Because we all know for a fact that Jesus rose from the dead and walked on water.”
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IT’S ZOMBIE JESUS, GET IN THE CAR!
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Another great chapter of “My Fundamentalism Makes Me Unhappy”.
Keep rolling.
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“Now u have captured my best mateâ€
Alright, who’s been going around kidnapping people? (If this chick’s life is so easily ruined, then wow, did she not have a good life.)
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“You are some geek…”
You say it like it’s a bad thing… GEEK PRIDE!
Silly creationist.
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Poor Rebbeca. You know, instead of criticizing, you could read up about us and the FSM, and perhaps learn something. After that, you can reconcile with your ‘best mate’ as you put it, and, well, be friends again. Really, don’t blame us for your problems. I believe someone already mentioned that if something like this can break a friendship, than it must not have been a very close one to begin with.
May you find peace peace, Rebecca,
RAmen
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Also, exclude that second “peace” in my previous remark. I looked away after I typed it initially, but then typed it again after getting back on my train of thought. :D
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“One Bedroomed Apartment”!
Here in the United (England to Americans) Kingdom, the price of housing is so high that only lying fat politicians, movie stars, bl**dy captains of industry, football players and drug dealers can afford to buy a house.
It costs £2,000.000.00p for a one bedroomed apartment in London.
I live in a bl**dy hole in the ground covered with a dead vagrant to keep the bl**dy rain out!
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Message to Jesus from Rebeccas friend:
Right, you are some hippy walking around in your sandals thinking of ways to get kicks out of life. Now u have captured my best mate and i wont stop until Christianity is expossed as the shabby, bare walled, well conducted piece of rubbish that it is.
I mean a god that has ultimate power but can only get off by insignificant humans praying to him? i think you need to see a pyshologist mate. you have serious problems.
by the way, have you stopped to consider the effects your little game will cause?
i think you have just split up me and my friend. oh yeh i wanna say thanks, thanks for ruining my life.
-rebecca’s friend
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Neofelis – I’m on the website you posted but I can’t find the inflatable jesus. Could you post a direct link? Do they have an inflatable FSM, or perhaps Allah or Muhammad, too?
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Hah! If that letter were to me then the joke would be on her! I live in a house! With my mother!
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Ah, the hate-mail these days doesn’t have quite the same rambling quality of the old ones. I think a top 20 hate-mail section should be made, by His Noodly Appendage; perhaps we can vote on them or something. Anyone else think it’s a good idea?
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-Tagliatellius-,Wow. I had no idea. Give me the address of this hole in the ground and I will send you some nice curtains to match your vagrant. And maybe some throw pillows.
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Some thoughts occurred to me as I read the strand: 1)well, of course your apt. is a 2-bedroom, Bobby! You don’t think I’d allow* my baby to live there if you and she were sharing a room, do you? 2) re: an FSM wedding–Cari’s sister is getting married, and I think that Bobby should get a minister’s license and perform the ceremony. 3) “Zombie Jesus; get in the car!” is new to me, and I frikkin’ LOVE IT! 4) If anyone reading this knows Matt LaFever, formerly of Benson, please tell him to send Bobby an email that Bobby can forward to me. Yes, Matt, it is I, your 3rd grade teacher! You and Bobby need to know each other!
*the thought of anyone, ever, “allowing” Cari to do anything makes me smile. the thought of anyone “NOT allowing” her to do anything makes me cringe in terror.
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Is it just me or does the hate mail get funnier with each new peice of mail?
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Penne Nov 30th, 2006 at 5:42 pm
-Tagliatellius-,Wow. I had no idea. Give me the address of this hole in the ground and I will send you some nice curtains to match your vagrant. And maybe some throw pillows.
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hahahaha……very funny Penne.
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@Iamme Nov 30th, 2006 at 5:57 pm
Is it just me or does the hate mail get funnier with each new peice of mail?
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I think they are trying to be more creative.
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@Cari’s mom (aka the mother-out-law)
“getting married, and I think that Bobby should get a minister’s license and perform the ceremony.”
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Joined in holy pasta by a pasta prophet?
RAmen
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Apologies, please forgive.
I meant “by THE pasta prophet”
RAmen
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Cari’s mom,
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I think a FSM wedding is a fine idea. Think of the savings on food alone.
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OEJ
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Well, it is easy to ruin a freindship over an opinion.
It’s like an aithiest(can’t spell) and a cristian fighting over weather there is a god or not, they will end up hating each other.
No disrespect, but that was just an example.
Also rebecca, you have no right to say that.
this is what these people beleive in.
you are not experienced at all in this matter, so you cannot say that. If you research and get more experience, then we’ll talk….
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rebecca
if you truley belive that he is an “imaginay god” then how are you letting an “imaginary” monster constructed of complex carbohydrates “ruin your life”?
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i think it’s becuase she can’t handle it that her friend won’t agree with her….
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I simply can’t resist it! What the hell is a “pyshologist?” I tried to pronounce it and I sounded drunk.
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An expert on pyshology, the art of sounding like a complete tool, without the saving grace of being pissed.
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Or at least, thats my guess based on the available evidence.
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I know at least one psychologist who is also a pyshologist then. What an ass. He must have had a double major in college.
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I’d have to disagree with you, Rebecca. He is not a complete idiot. He is actually just a very clever, intelectual, who has devised an interesting way of making the Bible less credible. However, I would like to say that Jesus, wether you see him as Jesus Christ, Jesus the Prophet, or just plain Jesus, is a Historical Figure, and ANY historian who knows anything would agree, Christian or otherwise. However, there is no true documentation of said Spaghetti Monster.
Also, true friends, actually no, strong people, who truly believe what they “know to be fact”, regardless of the strength of the friendship, do not allow such an arguement to stand between them and another intellectual. I have many friends, with varied oppinions on creation/evolution, and I’ve never “hated” any of them, just simply disagreed. I love argueing with friends over theories, and beliefs, because it keeps me sharp in my own faith. If you have ever taken the time to glance at the Bible Rebecca (I got the impression you were Christian, if not, please inform me as to what you are, and I will quote the main text of that religion instead.) you will find that it teaches things such as “Hate the sin, not the sinner.” and “love thy brethren.” and “Joyfully share the news of Salvation through Jesus Christ.” not “Hate Non-believers” or “You’re friend’s not Christian? drop them like an iraqi bomb and hug your Bible.” or my personal fave that people seem to believe is somewhere in that ancient text “Use and twist the Word for your own benefit and lifestyle, and attack everyone elses.”
I’m sorry Rebecca, but you are the complete idiot here, not him. If you’re going to deffend Christianity, make sure you “Arm yourself with the Word.” aka, know what the heck you’re talking about. Christianity is about READING the Word, and believing it to be true. Not blindly putting faith and hope into a book that you glanced at the cover of once, and maybe attend a church once and a while. Going to church and carring a Bible around doesn’t make you a Christian any more than standing in a garage with a key jammed in your ear makes you a car.
I understand most of you would not agree with my beliefs, but please have the decency enough to respect the fact that I know how to say what I think in a well-mannered debate, and I know how to spell the following: Bedroom (as bedroomed is not even a word to begin with.), apartment, you, exposed, well-conducted, psychologist, and yeah.
although yeah, might just be an American spelling of the same word, so she may have been alright on that.
Anyway, not trying to attack any of you. Just trying to get the idiots like Rebecca, who’d throw a Bible at someone before they’d consider reading it, to stop making Christians seem like such incompetent morons. Truth of the matter is that there are Christians who can actually hold a civilized debate and back up our arguements with actual fact (both from the Bible and otherwise.), but unfortunately, we are outnumbered by people who’d rather shout “NO! YOU’RE WRONG! JESUS LOVES YOU! I DONT HAVE TO PROVE IT, I KNOW IT” then actually give an educated opinion on something. Why? Because they DONT HAVE an educated opinion. They’re what I call dead fish, they go with the flow. Not because they chose to, but rather because the have no will or ability to do otherwise.
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She sure says mate alot for not being a pirate…. suspicious? we think so
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im young, and i dont know much about this religion, but i think it makes perfect sense. I mean, it makes just as much sense as a large mystical man creating…..other men, not saying i dont believe in god, im still deciding which path to choose, but dont hate the game, if religion matters that much to you, you dont have to much of a life. This religion ruined your relationship? i think not. YOU my friend, ruined the realtionship. You are to be blamed.
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Good for your friend! He’s obviously too intelligent for the likes of you!
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@Cindy: how do you know the original poster hasn’t read her Bible? You, yourself, claim to be able to quote from any of the main religious texts, so you’ll know there are many ‘world views’ out there, and many interpretations of each text. You’ve read the Bible and believe it .. but that doesn’t tell us anything, since many sub-’cults’ have taken the same text, or selected parts of it, and split away from main-stream orthodoxy. Rebecca could be a Christian Fundamentalist .. your version may be ‘love thy neighbour / happy clappy’, but the CF views non-believers as completely sinful. She would, therefore, be correct (in her view) to sever all connection with a turn-coat.
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Look, Pastafarians don’t (generally) have a problem with people holding any kind of bizarre belief .. it’s your life and if you want to live it believing in some fantasy figure, then knock yourself out. But we can’t stand by whilst those with fantasy agendas infiltrate government, influence education, start wars and destroy lives through ignorance (stem cell research, Aids, abortion etc). Enough! You should be ashamed to be both intelligent AND to have blind faith in an ancient compendium of contradictory and hateful religious propaganda. All we have are some graphs, a loving message, and a sense of humour. But they’re pretty powerful weapons against nonsense.
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-Cindy, You totally spanked her nasty ass! -you rock
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@Cindy
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“who’d throw a Bible at someone before they’d consider reading it”
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Now, that is the first good use of a bible I’ve come across. ;-)
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I am so tired of people who blame all their problems on others instead of attempting to fix them instead, and then they go and bring god into it just to back them up. I asked god what he thought about this the other day and he said “My child, Blame is but Lame -with a ‘B’ in front of it.”
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B. Lame…
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Short for Bloody Lame perhaps?
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Arrrrr………
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indeed.
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They’ve really gone to the dogs now: http://www.theonion.com/content/node/55694 ‘Besides sitting and staying at a military briefing, Barney also participated in the ground-breaking for a new visitors reception center at Camp Victory, during which he energetically dug alongside camp officials’.-Wow, I guess the Bush family have picked the next member of the clan fit to run for office in the next election already. Next he’ll be shake’n paws and lick’n babies!
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“by the way, have you stopped to consider the effects your little game will cause?”
yes, hon, and just by reading your comment i’d say everything is working out perfectly. though i must admit, a night spent with a fine stout pirate friend and a little grog might just change your opinion on our little religion.
ramen.
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Hi, I haven’t posted here before but I’ve been reading the site for a while and have been converted. I feel I have been touched by his Noodly Appendage.
Just thought I’d suggest an intersting book the content of which is relevant to the bible issues mentioned above. It’s Misquoting Jesus by Bart D. Ehrman. This is a serious text describing the process by which the bible has been distorted over the centuries by various translations and editings, to the point that it now isn’t hugely relevant to the probable original text.
Worth a read.
To Rebecca:
Go away, get a grip on reality and consider who you are. You may also want to apologise to your friend.
Need a pint.
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rebecca. you need a cunnilingus, NOW!
best noodle wishes
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well henderson, baby jesus would never let lives be lost from his religion, and here you are letting best mates break up. what kind of prophet are you? not a divine one, that is for sure. i hope you get kicked out of the stripper factory for this.
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Right, you are some Christian zealot sitting up in your one bedroomed appartment thinking of ways to get kicks out of life. Now u have captured my best mate and i wont stop until Christianity is expossed as the shabby, bare walled, well conducted piece of rubbish that it is.
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I mean an anthropomorphized “God” sitting on a “throne” in “heaven”? i think you need to see a pyshologist mate. you have serious problems.
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by the way, have you stopped to consider the effects your little game will cause?
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i think you have just split up me and my friend. oh yeh i wanna say thanks, thanks for ruining my life.
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A catholic wedding is the same as a catholic funeral, except at the wedding there are usulaly two people kneeling and the funeral there is usually one person lying down.
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what the FUCK is a psyshologist?
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He’s got a book, yo. That’s good enough for me.
If your friend and you split up because of the FSM, then you really are a bigot-pseudo-christian… with no sense of humor or irony.
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a moment of drama presented by jesus christ (a conversation between Rebecca and friend)
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“I can’t talk to you anymore, just get out of my life.”
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“what’s the matter rebecca, i just want to hang out. what’s your problem.”
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“i can no longer deal with you and your pagan god.”
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“what pagan god, what the fuck are you talking about.”
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“don’t give me this mister i worship the flying spaghetti monster.”
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“wft, you’re mad at me because of that?”
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“mad, are kidding me, I’M PISSED OFF. there’s only one true god, and that is jesus.”
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“Dude, just don’t talk to me ok. you’re getting pissed off at me because of a satire site. i can’t even call you my friend.”
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“don’t come crying to me when you defy god on judgement day”
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“dude, fuck you, i can’t take anymore of your melodramatic bible bullshit. i can’t put up with this shit anymore, go get a fucking life.”
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This is not hate mail: (fyi people who are angry about this and feel the need to write about how stupid this site is, I honestly think that makes you the stupid one, seeing as you’re getting all pissed off about a flying ball of pasta)
Before people bash me I am Catholic and go to church every Sunday.-People are so threatened by others with differing view points that they even feel threatened by the ridiculous Spaghetti Monster. Science is theories that can either be proved or disproved by hard evidence and supporting facts, these theories are added to and changing at all times. Evolution is a part of science, it has and continues to be backed up with facts and artifacts giving it validity it has also been tested and is a supported respected hypothesis. Intelligent Design is not a science, it can neither be proved nor disproved that God is real. I’d be glad to learn about Intelligent Design, but not in my science class. So if the unfortunate day comes that as a student in my biology classes I am supposed to learn about Intelligent Design as a scienctific theory then I’d better be learning about the Spaghetti Monster too, since neither has yet to be proved or disproved.
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@ Moochie
First of all, I would like for you to pin point the moment in history when I infiltrated the government, started a war, or ended a life.
Second of all, I AM aware that there are many worldly views, since I’ve done my research on a great number of them, to make sure that what I believe stands the best against cold-hard facts.
Third of all, do not acuse me of blindly following it, because I can asure you I do not blindly follow anything.
Fourth of all, I do not hate. Hate is a futile waste of energy. People who hate waste energy that could be put to so much more productive use. (back to Rebbecca for a sec: Instead of using your energy to hate your friend, and attack these people with backless acusations, take a class and get certified in CPR, maybe you’ll save a life, instead of writing letters that subtract from the sum of human knowledge.)
And to everyone in general, on a much lighter note (no more deffensive arguements). Since there isn’t really a book on Atheism, I’m much less educated as to the beliefs of those who are. Of course Atheism is actually defined as the lack of belief, I think it is more of a technicallity. Because you have to have some oppinion as to what happens when you die, even if it’s that you just blink out of existance.
What happens when you die? do you suddenly lose all awareness, and just are no more? if so, why are we aware of ourselves now? How can we percieve the world in such a way, if we are just another species struggling to survive, until we can no longer? What’s at the end of the universe, and why is it expanding? Scientific theories, and facts prove that the gravitational pull of stars should be contracting the universe by pulling closer to one another. However, the universe is expanding. Scientist openly admit that there is some unknown force that they cannot explain pulling the stars apart. And since it has been proven that the universe is expanding, what is it expanding into? a larger universe? if you breached the edge of the universe, what would happen? would you suddenly appear on the polar opposite end like on the classic game Asteroids? would you be in another universe? in heaven? or would the wall act as a massive black hole and cause complete and instant destruction?
Science is amazing. I probably should’ve gone into a philosophy major, rather than Music Composition :) but I love what I do. Science is awesome just as a hobby.
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p.s. Kate I like your comment, and agree that no religion is a scientific fact or theory. It belongs in a philosophy class, not a biology class. Evolution, is a scientific theory (it has not been declared a fact to my knowledge). And though I do not believe the theory as a whole, I do agree with the idea that as time goes on animals adapt through evolution among many generations. I don’t think we came from single cells, but we certainly have come a long way since the people whose remains have been found as the earliest people to our knowledge.
If they’re going to start teaching religion in science classes, then they better have some sort of research that’s been done to attempt to back it up as a theory. Because that’s what makes something a scientific theory…research. scientific research, not reading a really old book. (unless of couse said book as photographs in it, but I’m thinking Kodak wasn’t around back then…)
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Hey guys, I wouldn’t get to mad at Rebecca, it’s quite possible that she was just really upset at the time she wrote this. Mabye she doesn’t want to blame her friend, so she blames us for stealing her. On the other hand, Rebecca- please do not allow this to stand in the way of friendship. My friends and I get along great, and most of them are believers of some sort.
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Hello Cindy. Thanks for your response to my comments. I should have taken more care to differentiate between comments to you personally, and barbs aimed at your religion in general. My apologies for that.
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“I would like for you to pin point the moment in history when I infiltrated the government, started a war, or ended a life.”
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If I might be so bold as to substitute the second ‘I’ with the term ‘religious zealots’, then perhaps my point becomes clearer. You certainly seem to be a charming, reasonable person, but you’re part of an organisation that is doing real damage, now, in the world you share with billions of others. The people doing the damage use the same texts for ‘guidance’ as you do. I would argue that they adhere more closely to the scriptures than you do, because they don’t just select the nice cuddly parts to inform their morality, but take every word literally. And they act on it, to the detriment of the majority.
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“I AM aware that there are many worldly views”
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Yes .. I certainly didn’t mean to imply otherwise .. apologies if I was unclear.
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“I’ve done my research on a great number of them, to make sure that what I believe stands the best against cold-hard facts.”
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Thank you. I was feeling a bit wretched about giving you a hard time, but this sentence rather graphically illustrates the yawning gulf between those with a religious belief, and those without. I know my brothers in pasta hate long, rambling discourses, so I’ll keep it brief.
Basically, comparing and contrasting various religious texts, in order to confirm yours is the ‘best’ one, is intellectually dubious. Not the ‘research’ part .. that’s honest and shows intellectual curiosity. But it’s the rationale that’s twisted. You’re looking for “cold-hard facts”, but you only have three .. what’s physically written down in the texts you study, that a man called Jesus probably lived about two thousand years ago, and that many people place varying interpretations on the assorted texts. That’s ALL you have in the facts department.
Now, you may argue that what you’re actually trying to do is find the religious text that offers the best correlation between itself and the world as you perceive it .. which makes the most sense? .. which seems the most ‘true’? If so, then you’ve found the Bible is that text. But here’s the problem .. a lot of the Bible is de-humanising, self-contradictory, and patently absurd. Chosing such a text, warts and all, as the best of the bunch only begins to make sense if the god it describes actually exists. This is a being that believers variously describe as being eternal, everywhere, all powerful, invisible, three beings in one being, outside of space and time, unknowable to ‘Man’, yet quite happy to help little Johnny pass his exams next Tuesday. A being that created a perfect world, and then spent 6000 years smashing it up. A being that was happy to turn a blind eye to incest, murder, infanticide, slavery and rape, but would destroy entire populations because some of their number prefered ’shirt’ to ’skirt’.
I could go on, but you get the picture. The point is that your god doesn’t make any sort of logical sense .. he’s a mass of contradictions, according to the Bible. The rational explanation is that he doesn’t exist .. at least, not as advertised. But if the Bible is wrong, at least in part, and you’ve rejected all other holy texts, then what’s left? Atheism! The intellectual dishonesty is in cherry-picking the bits of the Bible you like, comparing the high-lights with other religions and non-religion and then claiming you’re only looking at ‘facts’.
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“Third of all, do not acuse me of blindly following it, because I can asure you I do not blindly follow anything.”
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Umm “Christianity is about READING the Word, and believing it to be true.” Sorry, but that sounds rather dogmatic to me, unless I’m mis-interpreting. If so, my apologies.
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Fourth of all, I do not hate. Hate is a futile waste of energy. People who hate waste energy that could be put to so much more productive use.
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Here we agree totally. I’m glad to have made your acquaintance and sincerely hope we part as potential friends. Good day to you.
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@ Jesus Christ, your post reminds me of why I like this site so much. Thank you for being you. RAmen
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You’re welcome, “rebecca,” if that is your real name.
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I’ve never lost a friend because of a difference in religious beliefs. I have, however, made lots of friends (christians too) through my open worship of the FSM.
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My advice to you Rebecca: go to your local bookstore and pick up a copy of the Gospel of FSM (it’s available in hardcover now), and read His Noodly Word.
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Realise the error of your judgements, and learn to judge not, lest ye be judged, then maybe your friend will take you a little more seriously.
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St John the Blasphemist
Saint of Hardcovers
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Was your relationship with your friend so shallow that a discussion on religion separated you two? I know that religion is a social taboo, but for good friends to avoid the topic is absurd.
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@moochie RAmen brother.
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Moochie,
You present a very good debate. I totally respect the fact that your arguement is logical, while it is also not offensive. I would like to say along the lines of your presumtion that others follow the teaching of the Bible than I, some probably do. I try to live the way God has set, but like all human beings with the nature to do what we know to be wrong (lie, think “un-Godly” thoughts, etc.) I falter. The Bible teaches that no sin may enter the Kingdom of Heaven. So no one is worthy of such, being that will all comit some kind of sin at some point (even the pope…who by the way to any Catholics, he was a Nazi at one point in his life…). But… “God so loved the world that he sent his only begotten son, Jesus Christ, to die, so that we might have eternal life” Jesus was both Divine and Human. He never sinned and therefore, when crucified, he was paying for the sins of the world, both past present and future. So people who condemn sinners, regardles of what they’ve done, they are not following the Bible, but rather contradict it.
And as for the Bible conterdicting itself, you didn’t give examples. So, to save you a bit of time, I will.
In the Old Testament God marks a lot of sins as punishable by death. Then in the New Testament, when Jesus comes acrossed a woman being stoned for adultry, as the Old says is to be done, he stops them and says “May he without sin, cast the first stone.” Why would Jesus, the Son of God, go against his own father’s teachings? teen rebelry? lol. No. Since Jesus knew he had come to pay the price for all sin, he knew this woman would no longer have to.
The are many rules and guidlines in Leviticus. Some say things like homosexuality are sins, others say eating shellfish is a sin… So since when do we get to pick and choose which ones we think should be followed? Well, it says that eating shellfish (and pigs and other things as well) is unclean and should not be done. these were dietary rules that were being set in place because back when the book was written, the didn’t have the same means of sanitation as we do today. The morality rules are still followed today, don’t kill, don’t steal, don’t be homosexual. Both were probably put there with the intent for them to be followed always, but they probably didn’t realize that in the future it’d be harder to get sick from eating such things. Of course, to be “on the safe side” one could follow these rules anyways, but none of it is going to send anyone to Hell since Jesus died for ALL sin, small and great. I think that’s the hardest contradiction for people to understand, because it’s harder to explain clearly.
I had a third contradiction, but I cant remember what it was. If you have any others I’d love to hear them, and hopefully I will be able to explain them.
:) as to the friends thing: definately. You seem to be an intelligent person, and have given one of the best opposition arguements of anyone I’ve crossed thus far. Total respect for that.
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I wrote that way too fast, and did not proof-read. I apologize greatly for the numerous gramatical errors. I know you all despise that. :)
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what kind of friend can’t deal with their friend’s religion? Sounds to me like your friend is better off without a snot like you
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[not the rebecca who is the source of such great contention in this thread]
@ Kate: Kudos to you!
@ Cindy: “However, I would like to say that Jesus, wether you see him as Jesus Christ, Jesus the Prophet, or just plain Jesus, is a Historical Figure, and ANY historian who knows anything would agree, Christian or otherwise. However, there is no true documentation of said Spaghetti Monster.”
Actually, there are several former Church officials, historians, atheists, and other assorted members of intelligent society who are of the opinion that Jesus Christ originally was a mythical figure, and that the more human qualities were attributed to him later on. For more information on this, you can visit http://www.thegodmovie.com for their film on the subject, “The God Who Wasn’t There.”
And as far as the Flying Spaghetti Monster is concerned, haven’t you read the accounts of the sightings of him? I myself once had a near encounter with the Noodly One while dressed in full wench regalia in my college’s parking lot one night.
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@Cindy .. don’t worry about spelling and grammar; we only tend to jump up and down on the “Ur a mooron” type hate-posters who claim intellectual superiority over us. The target is just too tempting.
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You want contradictions in the Bible? Crikey .. how long have you got? One of my favourite sites for pointing out the many and various umm ‘anomolies’ in your holy text is the Skeptics Annotated Bible. There’s a handy list of some of the more absurd high-lights here: http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/highlights.html with a link to the appropriate biblical passage in each case. They also link to religious sites which attempt an explanation or refutation of each point. Many of the ‘answer’ pages are hard to read (black text on dark green background), but if you hit Ctrl+A on such pages, the text is easier to read. Only go there if you are really, genuinely prepared to test your faith to the limit. I can appreciate how devestating such an experience would be for someone with an open mind and a religious conviction. My only advice would be .. don’t be afraid of the logical part of your brain. Listen to it. Good luck.
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You wrote about “.. dietary rules that were being set in place because back when the book was written, the didn’t have the same means of sanitation as we do today” and “.. they probably didn’t realize that in the future it’d be harder to get sick from eating such things.”
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The Bible as a Health & Safety cookbook for 2000 years ago? Actually, that’s an acute observation by yourself. Now, think it through. Dating the books of the OT defeats even the most scholarly theologian, but they must pre-date Jesus. The NT books, if memory serves, were written between 60 and 200 years after his death (with numerous amendments, additions, re-interpretations, re-translations and even removals, up to the present day). They were written by men, incorporating their own prejudices and interpretations, and were ‘fixed’ in a particular moment in history. These individuals were products of their societies, with all the associated social, political, religious and technological baggage of the day. How could it be otherwise?
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Ok, so how can you sort the underlying ‘truths’ from the now irrelevant (though historically interesting) social commentary and dietary advice? Well, scholars have made a good living from this through the ages, declaring large parts of the text to be allegory, parable, mis-translation etc etc. What remains is ‘the actual word of god’ .. the ‘nice’ bits .. what you guys often refer to as the Good Book. The nasty bits (sacrificing, smiting, rape, incest etc etc), the internal contradictions (see the Skeptics site above), and the silly bits (god’s problem with iron chariots, the Flood, three person god etc etc) are left in the text, but are ignored or relegated to the status of foot-notes.
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What I don’t understand is how an otherwise intelligent person could then refer to such a bowdlerized, sanitized collection of ancient writings as being the ultimate authority on life, death, morality, existence, truth, law and the proof that god exists. It doesn’t make sense.
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For those who find this (sorry if this sounds unkind) wishy-washy ‘evidence’ unsatisfactory, there are two ways forward .. fundamentalism (every single word of the Bible is god-given and true), or atheism. As an atheist I, of course, consider fundamentalism to be an enormous step backwards, though I can appreciate the logical processes that would lead one to such a belief.
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I guess what I’m asking, in my long-winded way, is how do you reconcile the totality of your holy text with the passages you have carefully picked to form your own moral compass? Why is it not ‘All or Nothing’?
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Does Bobby have your former friend locked in a cage or something because that is what ‘Now u have captured my best mate’ implies.
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Here’s a short list of 30 contradictions in the Bible : http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/short.html . There are links on the top left of that page to more contradictions (about 380 in total). And that’s after 20 centuries of ‘tidying up’ the original texts!
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@Cindy
Dear Dear Cindy,
quote:”Both were probably put there with the intent for them to be followed always, but they probably didn’t realize that in the future it’d be harder to get sick from eating such things.”
Couldn’t God see the future and know that sanitation would be improved eventually? Surely he could have put a addendum or something along the lines of “Dietary requirements subject to change on the basis of future technological breakthroughs”.
Furthermore, according to the Christian theology of which you appear to be an adherent, these ‘dietary requirements’ were removed (along with the whole Mosaic Law) with the advent of the New Covenant – ie. around 30AD. However, we had to wait a futher 1900 years at least until sanitation/hygiene/technology made it possible to store meats such as pork in warmer climes. You will have to think again on that one.
In response to the rest of your post(s) firstly let me say I appreciate your efforts to remain reasonable: a good foundation for any discussion, as you know.
However, remember that reasoning must always follow in a linear fashion (very noodle like if you ask me). ie. There is a starting point and an ending point (which of course may lead to more starting points for NEW lines of reasoning). What we must avoid always is circular reasoning: where the conclusion of our reasoning process is also its basis.
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1. There is a God (Proposition).
2. He must have a purpose. (Assumption).
3. He must have spoken to us, to tell us his purpose. (Supposition based on 2).
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N. God’s purpose is clearly presented in the bible (conclusion assumes the existence of God without demonstrating it).
Since we cannot ‘prove’ the existence of God (something you accept) it follows logically that we cannot say that the bible (or any other text) IS his word (we can’t prove that an unprovable thing has provably spoken). So no offence, but quoting scripture here is pointless.
You try to bridge the gap between the irrational fundamentalist position (the bible is completely and inerrantly true), and one that recognises the blatant problems by finding rational explanations which allow you to excuse those ‘difficulties’ in the text.
This is a predictable response to ‘cognitive dissonance’, experienced where the worldview (e.g. the bible) is not consonant with observable/experienceable reality. For some the reaction is to shut off and become aggressive when challenged (the typical fundamentalist reaction – who, incidently, would call your sort ‘liberals’ and ‘apostates’).
One thing the FSM helps to achieve is a break between the first two milestones of ID/YEC ‘logic’:
1. There is a God, the totality of creation testifies to that.
2. The genesis creation account is correct (all other ideas on the existence of life are incorrect) ‘God’ is the God of the Bible.
The Pastafarian argument is simply this: “Given the proposition that life arose by intelligent design, why is your intelligent designer any better than ours? Yours is a 3 in one godhead with a penchant for favouritism and smiting, ours is made of pasta and meatballs. Even ASSUMING the existence of God through the arguments of ID, it does not follow that said God is the Jehovah/Lord/Jesus/Holy Spirit of the Judeo-Christian system any more than it is a a Flying Spaghetti Monster.
I hope you can follow this (apols for the length).
RAmen
FSM: Welcome Him as your Lord and Savour.
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I never said “my” God was better than yours. I apologize for making the assumption that your god was a mere illustration of the faults of mine. If anyone truly believes the world was created by pasta, by all means go ahead, but I was under the impression that this site wasn’t about an actual religion, but rather a satire of one. That would leave one to the assumption that since “my” god is actually believed by millions, it is probably more realistic. Of course, this is only an assumption since millions of people could believe that peanut butter is made from elephant toenails, and it doesn’t make it anymore true. And you have a good point with the dietary thing. It completely voids my arguement. I’m a little ashamed to have over-looked that. lol. Perhaps we are still held accountable to those rules, and ignorant fools who decided that shellfish was a pretty tasty dinner decided that they didn’t like that part of the Bible so they just excluded it. Don’t you hate when people do that? “This is the Holy Word, and I follow it to the T….well, I follow all the parts that I haven’t scratched out anyway.” lol. And then you’ve got Churches that add more in, like Josheph Smith when he created Mormonism, and then later in life converted to Muslim I believe. :). The world is full of hypocrites. Just look at Darwin, your founder of the Evolution Theory. On his death bed he claimed that it was all a hoax, simply an act of rebelion toward his father. Of course, that doesn’t make evolution less true, because Darwin may have just had a change of heart because of a fear of death. oh gosh… I’m rambling… hopefully you get my point. No belief is flawless, because I don’t think anyone has it completely right (yeah, not even me:p). Some may come close, but geeze, we’re just people, no one understands the meaning of life. Not until they die anyway. I guess that’s the only way to really know. :)
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oh, sorry moochie, I scrolled over your post, and will now respond as breifly as possible. I suppose in your terms I would be considered more of a Christian Fundamentalist. I do believe evry word in the Bible to be God-given and true. I don’t consider three God’s in one to be a “footnote”. However, being that I believe it all, when Jesus came and said he was the Ultimate Sacrifice, and tat we no longer had to sacrifice for our sins, or die for them, it fufilled a lot of the OT rules. It didn’t erase them. It’d be like someone asking me to pick up their pen on the floor, and someone else coming and doing it for me. It stilled had to be done, I just didn’t have to do it. Anyways, that is why we don’t sacrifice, and stone people anymore. I am planning on going to that site. I’m not afraid to test my beliefs, because if I am blatantly proven to be wrong, then why believe it? If there is proof that it is false, why wouldn’t I want to save myself the trouble of spending a life according to something that doesn’t exist? lol. thanx for the link.
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I’m sorry, Cindy. I thought you were further along the path of honest re-evaluation of your religion than you actually are. If you genuinely embrace open-minded and critical rationalism, then you have a rocky ride ahead. Many have been in your position. Sadly, the vast majority find questioning their faith is too uncomfortable, and they slip back into whatever snug little theological nest they’ve constructed. Any subsequent attempts to prompt them into ‘doubting’ results in the all-too-common reaction of hands over the ears and a steady La-la-la-la-go-away-la-la. I really, really hope, having opened your heart to us, that this debasing, intellectual sclerosis is not your fate.
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Your response to SpaghettiSawUs is, I’m afraid to say, rather poorly made. You’ve missed the point of his/her post, and then compounded the error by repeating one of the classic religious hoaxes (Darwin’s death-bed conversion). Sorry, but even Young Earth Creationists are embarrassed that this lie still surfaces from time to time. A detailed consideration, by fundamentalist scholars, is here:
http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v18/i1/darwin_recant.asp . Whoever told you about Darwin probably also suggested that Einstein was strongly religious and that Hitler was an atheist. Probably best to avoid these, as they’re not true.
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I’m afraid I will never be able to get my head around the idea of a triple god, who kills part of himself, but only temporarily, and that this somehow makes future human sins ok. No point beating around the bush .. if you can believe that kind of twisted nonsense, and not blush with embarrassment, then there’s little hope.
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Anyway, I hope you keep writing. I urge you to read more around these subjects and look forward to our next encounter.
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Actually, having mentioned Darwin, Einstein and Hitler, here’s a list of arguments that Young Earth Creationists suggest believers should avoid using when attempting to prove god’s existence: http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/faq/dont_use.asp
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Sorry if this bursts any bubbles. However, if you spend any time on the Answers in Genesis site, you’ll learn some new arguments. If you have any scientific learning in your background, some of their ideas will appeal to you. Feel free to bring any such ideas to the table. Hopefully we’ll be able to offer alternative explanations, based on real science. This won’t be the same as a gentle discussion with your friends .. only start down this course if you know you’re robust enough to deal with the implications.
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ps. ALL mentions of FSM, even if apparently earnest, are made with tongue in cheek. The idea behind FSM is serious enough, though. Go back over SpaghettiSawUs’ post with that in mind .. look at his/her use of language .. you’ll get it.
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-Right, you are some geek sitting up in your one bedroomed appartment thinking of ways to get kicks out of life. Now u have captured my best mate and i wont stop until FSM is expossed as the shabby, bare walled, well conducted piece of rubbish that it is.
Ouch? Luckily FSM’ism isn’t based around indoctrinating people, they join it of their own free will, if anything your friend escaped you :P Besides it’s a free country… someone can believe whatever they want.
-I mean a flying spaghetti monster? i think you need to see a pyshologist mate. you have serious problems.
Why are you addressing only one person when you’re trying to insult thousands..? :P maybe you should actually read about FSM’ism.
by the way, have you stopped to consider the effects your little game will cause?
Jihad between those of the linguini and the ramen..? Wait no FSM’ism doesn’t breed fanaticism =)
i think you have just split up me and my friend. oh yeh i wanna say thanks, thanks for ruining my life.
Shouldn’t you be talking to your friend, giving up your ideological fascist stance and letting him/her believe whatever they want? If anything you split you and your friend up. Unfortunately I can’t go find the author of the bible and blame the crusades on him =P Maybe you already know this which is why you’re just trying to lay blame on something rather than trying to get back with your friend. Facing reality is scary eh.
-jeff
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“you’re a complete idiot”
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Why is it you can’t find any partial idiots?
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Ahoy SCJ,
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Maybe “partial idiot” is a misnomer.
Perhaps “Incomplete Idiot” or better yet,
“Idiot in Training” should be the accepted term.
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Danke…. and RAmen.
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It’s nice to see people talking intelectually about the Bible, instead of just reading it t each other. One of my friends’ (don’t get mad at me, I didn’t say this) favorite fantasy adventure books is the Bible. I believe that, like all religion, science, etc., it has truth and theory in it. I do not deny that a man named Jesus lived. I do not deny he was trusted and loved by many people. I do, however, question (not deny) that he was a Miracle person, that he was desended of God, and so forth etcetera.
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Could perhaps Raz or someone else say why they believe God decided to go in for this creation thing in the first place?
As a perfect being or whatever, he/she could not possibly have any needs, and must surely not require or want anything else. Why go to all the trouble of designing a great big universe?
And to serve what purpose?
Interested to have your ideas.
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my friend told me the other day that he has proof against god and my other friend told him that is impossible… the two of them are 15 years of age…and handled this better than you and your friend… the first one told him his proof and the other one denied it and said but did not fuss or scream about it and when he rejected the idea my “god believing” friend was not upset… you should grow up!
-Blake M. Freedman “Faithful Pastafarian”
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oh yea…i would also like to point out Raz’s quote “Unfortunately I can’t go find the author of the bible and blame the crusades on him” This would be very hard because an idealist would look for the man who wrote the bible arround the time frame from Christ’s death to about 50 C.E. but a person who knows better would know they would find them 300 years later in the years 300-350 C.E. Why would he wait so long to write this? May some of the stories been mixed up allong the way? And is it possible that the Egyptians (who worshiped Anubis, the dog guy) influenced this? Maybe when translating Egyptian they spelt Dog wrong…maybe somthing more like God… so you guys might acctually be worshoping a Dog… now does that make you insane…NO and neither does worshiping a flying spaghetti monster.
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Aar! I be sayin’ this in yer landlubbin’ language, so read on.
wow, take a chill pill. I for one am not Pastafarian, although I’m standing up for you guys, and I’ve been thinking about it, so it’s a possibility that I will become Pastafarian.
Anyways, this parody religion may appear to be rubbish to you, but when you really think about it, it’s just as plausible and probable as Catholic, Christian, Jewish (and any other religion’s) beliefs. It’s not actually hurting anyone anyhow.
Besides, MOST of us need to see a psychologist, no matter who we are. We just don’t realize it. I know I should probably see one, and so should… hang on lemme count…. pretty much all of my friends, so maybe you should check your head too before you point the finger, saying that people need to see a psychologist.
You also really should just let your friend believe whatever the @#!%# he/she wants to believe.(I’ve edited myself for content here.) Just cause you think that Pastafarianism is a load of rubbish doesn’t mean you have to have a fit and lose a friend over it. If you’re gonna let a friend go that easily, see my last paragraph.
As for a game… *blinks* Do you know what a game is? Seriously, look it up. A game is like… Monopoly. or Endless Online. The Flying Spaghetti Monster is obviously not a game to your friend, so maybe you should just smoke some weed or something to calm down. Seriously, whatever you need to do to calm down and not freak out about meaningless crap, do it. Now…. Then maybe your friend will be nice to you again. And you ruined your own life by flipping out by the way.
Oh yeah. that God? Pasta? What has more letters? guy makes a very good point. Worshiping spaghetti does not make you insane, flipping about the TINY little things in life(beliefs for example) does.
A word of advice to others who send in hate mail… your name goes up on the site. You will be hated afterwards.
So anyways, rebecca, have fun with the calmingdownness. And remember, put on some soothing music. *smiles*
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Rodger the cabin boy may be on to something. Perhaps Rebecca’s friend is a midget and WAS locked up in a cage! And Rebecca, misunderstanding Bobby’s assertion that he does NOT approve of such treatment, blamed Bobby! Just one more of life’s little misunderstandings.
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Midgets in cages… oh crap!
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Got to go! Forgot to do something!
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OEJ
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A-HA! So it wasn’t Bobby. OEJ, how could you? was it a kinky thing or what? I won’t tell,…I promise.
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mate?
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After reading Rebecca’s message I thought I would try and bedroom my apartment. It turned out to be a lot more difficult than I expected. I came home after acquiring various supplies from the shops and try as I did, I just couldn’t bedroom my apartment.
Does anyone have any advice on how my apartment can be “bedroomed”?
“I mean a flying spaghetti monster?”
Rebecca, I think it’s a little unfair to ask us if you mean a flying spaghetti monster.
DO you mean a flying spaghetti monster? I don’t know, unfortunately I can’t help you with that question, but maybe someone else can, a psyhologist perhaps?
Well, I’m sure your belief system is a well educated guess like your spelling and you don’t discriminate against others like you discriminate against capital letters and punctuation.
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@Penne
“A-HA! So it wasn’t Bobby. OEJ, how could you? was it a kinky thing or what?……”
Penne, I too was intrigued by OEJ’s post. Please explain OEJ????
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Cari’s a midget. That’s why she never weighs-in on these discussions; Bobby keeps the keyboard too high for her to reach.
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Hello again Cindy,
Please re-read my post a few times… you got the first point but seemed to get a bit lost on the way down.
I’m not comparing our Gods, I’m saying that given the argument that we are created, it does not follow that the creator is the god of the Bible any more than it could be the FSM.
Importantly, accepting that it is not possible to prove the existence of god as you do, I cannot see how you then believe that the bible is his word. How could it be? How can an unprovable have provenly spoken? Belief in god and the bible isn’t just a one-stop reasoning process, it is a series of assumptions and presumptions which are essentially circular. You live your life according to the precepts of a book which you accept as the word of a creator that cannot be proven to exist.
For the benefit of clarity, I am a He, a one-time fundamentalist young earth creationist believer, I have met Ken Ham and I’ve studied theology. The road out of belief was a very difficult one but thankfully my reasoning abilities dragged me kicking and screaming into rationalism. My greatest observation however is this:
When one believes, the concept of a godless world and a purposeless life is scary. When one lets go of irrational belief life finds a real purpose and humanity takes on a totally different hue. The world makes so much more sense when we take the guy on a cloud out of it.
If you really would like to get into discussion join the forums and private message me, I’m only too glad to discuss things with anyone.
Good luck and best wishes.
SpaghettiSawUs
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Cindy,
Just a few things to help your reasoning process…
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“Perhaps we are still held accountable to those rules”
No, christian doctrine is that the the old covenant was replaced by the new covenant (Read Acts ch15 and Romans, or ask your Pastor/Priest/Vicar). A Christian is not required to follow the Law of Moses (i.e. no circumcision).
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“and ignorant fools who decided that shellfish was a pretty tasty dinner decided that they didn’t like that part of the Bible so they just excluded it.”
Valid alternative: it was some ‘wisdom’, that fitted the worldview of the time and offered some protection from disease, but has now been superceded by new information and wasn’t actually direct from the all-knowing creator after all. Besides, liking shellfish doesn’t make you ignorant… a good moules marniere takes alot of knowledge/practice ;o)
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“No belief is flawless…”
Such a small statement, such a big discussion to come:
If something is believed without any empirical evidence to back up it then that (act of) belief is completly flawed.
We need to qualify the word ‘belief’.
Consider: I *believe* in gravity (I can see that it occurs). I don’t *believe* in theories of gravity because belief is the wrong word: I accept the validity of the arguments in that the predictions of the theories are testable in observable experiments… but since I can’t *see* gravity I can’t *prove* that it exists.
So, if you were to ask me: “Do you believe in gravity” I would have to answer “Yes of course”, but if you asked me “Do you believe in string theory” I would answer “What a preposterous question! Nobody ‘believes’ in string theory”.
Belief, in the religious sense, is about accepting something without knowing whether it is demonstrably ‘true’ or not.
When Isaac Newton first said “Hey look, things are attracted to one another by some invisible force which I’ll call gravity. Here’s some experiments and some data, see for yourself”, we looked into it and said “This appears to be correct”. The result isn’t a new belief-system (we didn’t expect to survive falling from great heights before we knew about gravity did we?) Instead what we have is a ‘model’ that *works* to explain a phenomenon we can’t see. We may ‘believe’ in the phenomenon but we can only ‘trust’ the model at best. We have plenty of ideas what gravity is, and so far they are holding up, but belief (in any religious sense) is alien to the search for truth about gravity: all anyone can say is “I believe that the theory X model of gravity is correct, until proven otherwise”.
Can you see where this is going?
Ask yourself: “Do I believe in God because a) I arrived at it throught logical conjecture, experiment and analysis of empirical data, or b) because I was taught about it as a child, by people I trusted.” If you answer A, your God Theory may have merit, submit it for peer review. If B, your belief is completely flawed.
So let’s turn your statement on its head: All belief is flawed. It says the same thing but more accurately. Now the question I have to ask you is: are you comfortable using your mental capacity on something that is inherently flawed?
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“…no one understands the meaning of life.”
Honestly, when you let go of the God concept, the meaning of life is instantly apparent, I swear it.
My invite to further discussion is always open, this thread is not really the appropriate place to go deeper.
Best Wishes
RAmen
@mod: sorry for length and references to dogma, hope my closing comments spare me a plank walk…
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yo yo yo
foshizel bizel
can i join your cult
i wana be saved
even tho i once had a girl in my bed and a horce
thats what she said
oh…u got skooled foshizzile
money cheese
do have any tost whith chez
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that was wierd
I wonder if we should perhaps ban the usage of the word “foshizel”
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awww…poor Rebecca. =)…what, no1 else feels sorry for her? She just lost her best friend. I think we should show her the love of FSM and not criticize her horrible spelling, or poor adjectives, and her lack of understanding of sentence structure and just show her some love. WWFSMD
RAmen.
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@One Eyed Jack Dec 2nd, 2006 at 11:22 pm
Midgets in cages… oh crap!
Got to go! Forgot to do something!
OEJ
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??? OEJ ???
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Wow, i miss a couple of months and i spend days catching up…
I suppose i shouldn’t be surprised but i just read a post in this thread “…i actually beleive every word in the bible…” what? literally? not only is that bizarre – it’s messed up. Does that include the bit when the Angel appears to Lot to warm him sodom is going to be destroted? the locals gather and demand he sends the angel out as they want to sodomize it – so to defend it he sends out his virgin daughters to be gang raped by the mob (not sure why god doesn’t stop it – perhaps he likes to watch?) and when he and his family run from the destruction God kills his wife for what – looking at the show? that seems fair!
it even goes further when he and his daughters hide out – they get him drunk and sleep with him in turns!! very pious. and you want to say you believe this. man i laughed.
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I’m nowhere near up to speed either, Spider. Does anyone have the faintest fucking idea as to what the flying fucking fuck of a fucking thing a fucking “pyshologist” is meant to be? For fuck’s fucking sake!
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Not only are these hate posters complete retards/assholes/delusional fuckwads, they’re destroying the fucking language too!
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Bastards!
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I think a pyshologist is a cross between a psychologist and an alcoholic. The shrink that drinks too many martinis^_^
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As nautical navigators in an ocean of bewilderment, bring enlightenment and pasta to those adrift on currents of superstitious nonsense methinks perhaps we are the Physhologists?
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Physh – (pronounced fish.. d’ya get it?.. wait i’ve got another, my dogs got no nose…..)
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And i like the phrase “a shrink that drinks…”
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do they wink aswell?
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Good to see you back Spider.
RAmen
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@Davey Jones’ Hacker Dec 5th, 2006 at 2:05 pm
“I’m nowhere near up to speed either, Spider. Does anyone have the faintest fucking idea as to what the flying fucking fuck of a fucking thing a fucking “pyshologist†is meant to be? For fuck’s fucking sake!”
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I think it is a wrong spelling Davey. Maybe the poster meant a silogist? Those people that study, like wheat silos and stuff? Maybe?
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FSM is incredible!
Let’s think about this:
Christianity has a widely accepted, unseen, force that created everything.
FSM has a widely accepted, unseen, force that created everything.
Christianity has a bible that was written by god.
FSM has a bible that was written by god.
Christianity has a faith.
FSM has a faith.
People claim to have been touched by the christian god.
People claim to have been touched the the FSM god.
And plenty more…
So, if christianity is true than so must FSM be true. If FSM is false, then so too must christianity be false.
This is a genius satire and it’s funny to read comments from all the christians who get offended by it. Maybe I get offended by christianity?
The fools.
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@Soldier of the Sauce:
it may trouble you to know that christianity and FSMism are not mutually exclusive, but it has been determined which deity is the better! check out the FSM vs God thread in the News section.
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Man….I wasnt not here to knock you’re guys “faith” or anything….a friend of mine told me about this…..
….and now I will knock it…..
I just wanted to say that Im all up for freedom of religion, but if there’s one thing I cannot stand, it’s idiots…..I’ve talked to the Pastafarian population at my school and at my sisters college, and all of them say the same thing…”Im atheist, Im bored, and it’s fun”…..anyone who thinks that this is actually the TRUTH just has to completely ignore the laws of life as we know it…..and I know, I know, maybe I haven’t been molested by his “noodly appendage”….but if it means converting to a “religion” that was based on a political joke, then count me out……
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J,
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It’s good to see that you cannot stand idiots. You may find this hard to believe, but this religion was founded because one little boy also hated idiots. You see, J, there are lots of idiots out there, and sometimes not only is it hard to decide which idiots to hate, sometimes it is also hard to see who are idiots, especially if you are not too bright to begin with.
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So, J, perhaps you might like to take a step back and first try to pick out the idiots, and then decide which ones you can stand the least. I doubt it will help, but if by chance it does, it would not be the first miracle His Noodliness has performed.
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Everybody knows that the FSM created god after the made the trees and the mountains, but before he made the midgit.
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The FSM made god and so he is greater than god. Duh!
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Hmmm sounds like we have another J.
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This does not sound like the well written, often long winded, and highly skilled debater we all know and respect.
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A christian plot to discredit him maybe?
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So to the fake J, I say VAMOOSE
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Or at least change your name.
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@Jingles:
I agree. It’s a sad and shabby impersonation indeed.
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@ Spider – I’ve wondered what became of you. I’m glad to have you back too. What the hell is up with that Sodom story? Is that really in the Bible? Cheese and Rice! I’m dumbfounded by the sheer lunacy displayed by anybody who would a)believe that story literally, and b) give a rat’s ass about it.
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“@Soldier of the Sauce:
it may trouble you to know that christianity and FSMism are not mutually exclusive, but it has been determined which deity is the better! check out the FSM vs God thread in the News section.”
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Correct you are. However, I was making note of the more obvious points; those things that have common ground. We have to go easy on christians, they’re obviously not the brightest. We can’t overwhelm them with such a large amount of information at once. They have to crawl before they can fly with the FSM.
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Somehow I get the impression that this is fabricated. I mean, can anyone be that much of an idiot? It’s a question that gives me pause…
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Rebecca, i think u have made the right decision! you should always have friends that have the same beliefs as you! it is important and i think that this whole fsm think is stupid! and that anyone would be in serious need of metal help if they actually believe any of this! And i personally will be praying for all of those who do believe in “the monster”!
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@Meg, a couple of things.
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“you should always have friends that have the same beliefs as you”
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No, that should never happen. When it does, you get slavery, racism, oppression of women, xenophobia, societal and technological stagnation, the list goes on.
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Also, please… I ask this with all my heart, PLEASE don’t pray for me.
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It’s highly offensive to me. If you want to do something for me, please don’t waste your time with self reflection (for at best, that’s all prayer really is) but rather read some texts by Richard Dawkins or Carl Sagan.
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Study philosophical arguments against Christianity.
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See the atrocieties that have been committed in its name.
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Then, ask yourself what is stupider;
a) A religion that has a 200 year long history of violence and bloodshed, perverted morals and despicable commandments?
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or b) A religion that asks only that you learn to think for yourself, enjoy life and have a good laugh.
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I know which one I would choose every single time.
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2000 not 200
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Brilliantly put, Jingles.
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Hear this man, Meg. It might just change your life for the better.
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(BTW – where can I get some metal help? Do I need an Iron Maiden tee shirt or can anyone with tough eardrums show up?)
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Now we all need metal help, what next? I’m not up on Metal, but I’m sure one of the other pastafarians may have a suggestion.
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Metal help? Like an aluminum foil helmet?
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Oh, btw, I’ve just noticed the exchange between J (Dec 6th, 2006 at 6:42 pm) and Scott K (Dec 6th, 2006 at 6:58 pm). That J ain’t me. Not that there’s any way you should know (or care) who I (or s/he) am (is).
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If it helps, I reckon Scott was making a good point, though I do find it good for the soul to think of a lot of ‘idiots’ as intelligent but unfortunate victims.
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(I’m off to hide, again.)
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Ahh..Iron Maiden…yes of course…I see what Meg means now.
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@One Oared Marc Dec 7th, 2006 at 7:05 pm
‘Metal help? Like an aluminum foil helmet?’
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It is quite possible Meg was suggesting something of that nature. Maybe Meg will return and clarify.
RAmen
@J Hi J….Bye J….Holiday
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I used to roadie for a smalltime local heavy metal band and we referred to ourselves as the “metal ward”. Never quite made it to the aluminum foil helmet department, though.
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Perhaps we should have metal sea shanties as hymns….
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“Whiskey in the Jar” — the Metallica version? Which is actually adapted from the Thin Lizzy version. But a lurvely metal shanty just the same.
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As a point of most relevant (and reverent) interest, I wish to point out that the blessed St John of Petrucci himself doth refer to the art of guitar soloing as “noodling” (source: G3 Live in Tokyo .. soundcheck commentary). Those familiar with this most holy of works will testify that the holy trinity of Vai, Satriani and Petrucci transcend this mortal plane as they crank it up big time.
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@Moochie
Seen two out three live, not had chance to see Satriani. Saw Vai twice when he was still with David Lee Roth. Only seen Dream Theater once, but stunning and very silly in places. Exactly what Bart Simpson was doing running around the back of the stage was never explained.
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“All I wanna do is eat your brains…”
Okay so it’s not a sea shanty or a guitar noodling but it’s bloody hilarious! Enjoy!
http://scienceblogs.com/mixingmemory/2006/12/re_your_brains.php
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@MJK: awesome song! Love the line “I’m not a bastard, Tom .. well, technically I am”.
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@Jon E: Satriani is only worth seeing live if you can get there early and be at the front. He’s pretty static, hardly speaks to the audience, plays all the solos flawlessly and the silly hats and shades really distance him from the crowd. But if you are close enough to see his fingers fly .. that really is something! A few years back I managed to get front and centre .. halfway through the gig he grabbed a chair and sat at the edge of the stage, not more than 4 feet away from me, and played a 10 minute medley of his more outrageous pieces .. double tapping and all that. A cherished memory.
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i think you need to see a pyshologist mate. you have serious problems.
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eye tink yew need two sea a spellogist mate.
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how freaky
his Noodieness touches us all
I was just listening to dream theater
Ramen
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you guys should listen to buckethead( which I’m listening to now)
be back in a few
hours that is
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Every time a fundamentalist Christian gets their panties in a wad over His Noodly Appendage, my own appendage gets so hard I sometimes completely fill a Dixie cup just with my pre-ejaculate.
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@N-Light: A little al dente for you?
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rebecca. if you and your friend were really pathetic enough to ruin your friendship over this than both of you need to walk into oncoming traffic. and if your life is ruined because you lost a friend then you must only have one friend, whereas the man you talking shit about has at least onehundred people bashing everyone who writes him hatemail.
go die
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what your friend and you split up because you dont like this you are a complete idiot to even think this thing was even taken seriously to begin with people are just joing up to say that “intelligent design” is bull and that we should believe what we want to believe so you are saying really if we dont believe what you want us to believe were all going to hell and not ever going to heaven wow you are just needing to SLIT YOUR WRISTS!!! ok yeah im glad i got that point across and seriously i believe this is a joke and i dont care what people believe i just believe that we go somewhere after we die eh seriously just let people live their lives and get over yourself!
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To Rebecca,
Maybe your friend is the one who needs to see a “pyshologist”. The fact that your friend has turned to atheism because of the FSM means that she/he probably didn’t have strong convictions in the first place. People who can be swayed at the drop of a hat are those who are more likely to be searching for an alternative. Don’t blame these guys. Look at issues more close to home.
BB
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@ hahalovethis, Damn!
That was the longest sentence I have every read! Damn!
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@people posting about music
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i know it’s a little off the time schedule, but i have to say dream theater is a really cool band. i mean i know its not a band that i would play in front of a girl, but who can doubt that mike portnoy, john petrucci, john myung, jordan rudess, and james labrie are all really cool and talented musicians. i did see them live before at radio city music hall. the concert was ok, but it was cool to see them live. i like lots of music from lostprophets, story of the year, seether, and many others.
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does anybody here like Rush. No offense taken if you say you don’t like them. music is something that everyone should critique on. Neil Peart is one of the best drummers (perhaps best) drummer ever!
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I like Rush, well enough.
They’re as old as I am! heh heh, Not being their biggest fan, I haven’t heard anything of there’s in a few years now? But they used to rock! Maples and Oaks and all.
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Interesting analysis. Now let me tell you the truth. Pastafarianism is supported by good natured people with a good sense of humor. If this splits up your friendship, then it probably was good for your friend because obviously you have no sense of humor, and are too easily offended. Please, YOU go get a life, because your tolerance level is blatantly way too low.
Before you make yourself look like an idiot, actually put some thought into what you’re saying, don’t just throw some shit together.
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to rebecca/beccy/wtf you like to be called
ever thought that if your friendship was broken up by your blatant lack of a sense of humour and inability to get past your own religious ego that your friendship wasnt great, or perhaps you as a humourless amoeba didnt have the capacity to actually get past your own unrealistic religous beleifs and so criticise others.
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It is written that the people of Pasta would be hated and persecuted, but woe unto you for denying His noodles. Even now they quiver for you. Do not harden your heart to the Delicious One. Twirl Him in your mind, and feel his tasty peace decend upon you and be reconciled with your friend. Or, at the very least, develop a sense of humor.
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let us remember that she DID lose her friend. it does not suit his noodleyness’ style to insult those under emotional duress. when she has calmed down, perhaps she will see that we aren’t actually evil puce demons trying to destroy her life. though after the hate-mail replies she recieved from “us peace-loving pastafarians,” I doubt she’d touch us with a 10-foot pole. Please, fellow pastafarians, show a little compassion!
Remember the 8 “I’d really rather you didn’ts”!
RAmen
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Yes Gnocci Man. Your heart felt cry does not go unheeded! She will be welcomed by me!
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I am really enjoying the fact that so many right-wingers are trying so hard to find legit ways to debunk the FSM concept. What do ya suppose would happen if they took that same honest look at their own faith? PS- If you are one of those people that REALLY believes any of this…
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Sorry to post side-by-side, but I had an epiphany. Rebecca keeps saying, “mate.” The only people that I know that use that word are Steve Irwin (who is dead), that Dundee guy (who may as well be be), and PIRATES! She’s a closet case. Let’s all give her pity. By the by, if someone else already came to this conclusion, I’m sorry. I am honestly not interested in reading all of the posts.
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@Urkey
How is she a right winger?
We are all pirates on the inside Mate.
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The slowest animal slows down the whole herd-It’s for the best sweetcheeks
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-.- If your friend really beleives this stuff why would you want to be friends with them anyway?
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if your friend would give up on you for just that….. then they must not have been a very close friend…. i mean i can disagree with pretty much anything that my friend says ro does or follows and he will NOT CARE!
so i say to you…..in all honesty….. your friends suck
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I love how she is all convinced we actually think this stuff is real.
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@ the milky pirate Dec 24th, 2006 at 4:30 pm
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“if your friend would give up on you for just that….. then they must not have been a very close friend….”
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yup. I don’t anyone can add to that comment.
RAmen milky
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erm add a ‘think’
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This is SATIRE anyone who ACTUALLY believes in this…well, let’s just say that Darwin will do his job soon enough, with any luck.
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Mate? Rubbish? wtf
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It’s a religion. There is just as much basis for our religion, just as much evidence of our God, The Flying Spagghetti Monster, as there is for any of those false gods proclaimed by other religions.
RAmen
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right. first off, “mate”, i would like to congratulate you on your astounding lack of understading and you penchant for talking out your ass. second:
get a hobby.
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@divine_noodles: This IS her hobby, so it seems…sad isn’t it?
@Rebecca: Take your indoctrination shit somewhere else- will not work, here.
Seems stirring up trouble in a peaceful place is some you get a *kick* out of.
Hey, treat others how you would like to be treated – the golden rule, So I guess It’s ok for Bobby to class you as an Idiot, huh?
That word won’t harm me, I’m an official Idiot, in the club (understand. *then* reply).
What ever happened to freedom in the USA?
You broke up with your “friend”? That’s your problem, not ours. You people have to pass the blame.
The FSM is about a stupid as beliving that the world was created in 6 days, by God who basically is a Spirit and no one has ever met “him”.
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Rebecca-
I just read your hate mail, and I think you have just split up me and my friend. Thanks for ruining my life.
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You and your “friend” have bigger issues, move along.
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Well said, Patron Saint of Gamers, been there, done that. Next
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dramatic much?
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One Oared Marc Dec 7th, 2006 at 7:05 pm
Metal help? Like an aluminum foil helmet?
No no no. A boarding cutlass!
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If losing one friend has ‘ruined her life’ she must not have had much of a life in the first place.
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She only had one friend and FSM took it away from her, and it was imaginary.
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@Beastly Rich
“She only had one friend and FSM took it away from her, and it was imaginary. ”
God??
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“Right, you are some geek sitting up in your one bedroomed appartment thinking of ways to get kicks out of life.”
At least I have a life.
“Now u have captured my best mate and i wont stop until FSM is expossed as the shabby, bare walled, well conducted piece of rubbish that it is.”
Not going to happen.
“by the way, have you stopped to consider the effects your little game will cause?
i think you have just split up me and my friend. oh yeh i wanna say thanks, thanks for ruining my life.”
Can anyone say emo? It’s not anyone’s fault but your own if you split up with your friend just because she’s got a different religion. It’s a psychological condition called being a bitch.
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@Guile.
Haha! Well said.
RAmen.
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Bitchism is not to be taken lightly. I think we should take it easy on rebecca, she’s probably about 12 years old.
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Has anybody ever watched the show “Moral Orel?”
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I hope you die in a fire
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that’s nice Tom.
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how dare ye worship thy spaghettith monstereth. I hath seen thy God and talketh to him in my sleepeth and he has told me to slay all thy pasta worshippers! To arms my fellow Jesus Believers! SLAY THEE INFIDELS!!!!!!!!
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Uuummm, I don’t think so, mister infdel, are you sure your name isn’t impotent?
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How abouteth ye buggereth offeth. And ye can taketh Tom with ye. Lest ye wish to walk the plank, ye rat-faced foc’sle. T’would be a waste of bilge water to wash yer scabby flesh.
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well,my name is rebecca too,and I agree with this rebecca.
go rebecca!
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Don’t worry about it Becky, we won’t either.
How many hands does your girlfriend have?
Just wondering?
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Boo-hoo. Go cry on your friend’s shoulder, oh, wait, you don’t have one.
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Clearly the fine art of pyshology hasn’t yet caught on amongst you philistines.
Any true pyshologist would know that Rebecca is right: the inventor of a religion is un-intelligent because her friend believes in it and she doesn’t. How can you people not see the obvious logic. Pyshology.
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@TheInfidels! and Captain Mad John Kidd
Why is everyone speaking with a lisp?
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I think if you guys were really friends then it wouldn’t matter to you what religion she chose to follow. If the fact that she wants to follow this bother’s you that much, and you are really that much of a friend then you would probably have some influence to stop it from happening. Or is your friendship so shallow that you just want to have something to complain about rather then trying to ge your friendship back together.
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Yep. You got us. We have your “best mate” in his 1 “bedroomed” apartment. And you “think” that we split up you and your friend? Do you have ANY proof or evidence of it at all? Or is that just a theory? I bet it is. Did you even talk to your “mate”? You know? Just print out your email and SHOVE IT UP YOUR A**.
RAmen
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hahaha…
RAmen
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duh loser relax if your friend believes this then she/he is in fact retarded
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I think the pirates are being framed again. Notice how her “mate” was “captured,” obviously implying mutiny on the high seas. But we know this was never really the pirate way.
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I bet her mate ditched her to commune with The Supreme Noodle and his fellow pirates, over a beer and a plate of pasta somewhere. He doesn’t need a pyshologist at all.
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i find it so funny that fundies can try and cripple the FSM, The more they try the more they cripple their own Theist ideals. The FSM is a magnifiscent tool for arguing against the existence of god. They say the FSM is ridiculous, how could there be a flying spaghetti monster, it doesnt work, but neither does god. id like to point out that im taking a lot into account. i know about most arguments for the existence of god. Ontological certaintly doesnt work, cosmological is closer but assumes far too much of what we do not know and can never know, but even so, the best minds in the world can explain our existence to an extent which does not have a need for god, or even his noodly appendage.
Id like to point out that god only complicates things, and as most of you will know the simplest explanation is usually the best so the Atheist win on that front. id also like to mention that, although Atheist i am not Faithless. i have faith in my belief that god does not exist and i am not some stuck up sceptic who just chooses to argue against anything and everything. i believe in the divinity of nature and what it has produced, the human mind being holier than Any holy script but equaled by the inginuity and abnormality of the sea dwelling iguana or the star nosed mole. And no intelligence could have merely created these things, the sacrifice that has been made in order to perfect the human race, the lives lost in order to progress through evolution, that is surely more sacred than any creation theory which lacks all evidence. ( i apologise to the FSM, i do not mean to offend his noodlieness with my unlearned rantings)
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Considering the fact that your friendship ended over a difference of opinion, it was only a matter of time before your opinion about which Backstreet Boy is the hottest broke you up as well. Or it might have fallen apart when you realized your favorite colors weren’t the same. And nor to mention your difference of opinions about socks.
It was doomed from the start.
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for rebecca the first person to post here, this is no more real than your religion, it is no more provable or factual than yours and if your a chatolic it has been less horrible than yours, im assuming that you are and if you are how can you follow a religion that is based on the vote from some men about if jesus was real or not, the chatholic church has done so much damage to the world like, killing houndreds of thousands of people on the basis of them being witches, holding all the information during the middle ages and not allowing it to be used, the pope not allowing people to use condoms wich leads to things like the problem in africa that has killed millions.
and the book of genesis, it says that everything was created in 7 days, scientists have basicaly proven evolution with the findings of the remains of what our species were 10,000 years ago we havent looked like this forever and even if we had (wich we havent) why have no remains of the present day human been found?
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what in the name of His Noodly Appendage is a ‘pyshologist’???
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“”oh yeh i wanna say thanks, thanks for ruining my life.”
UR WELCOME!!! :)
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